Screentime: Resident Evil (2026) Spoiler Discussion

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Video games, or as you like to 
say, welcome back to the old 

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Switcheroo where we're talking 
gaming retro with Mike and Jamo.

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I'm Mike. 
And I'm Jamo we're the often 

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and playfully ribs every 
Nintendo Classics a game in the 

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Nintendo Switch Online catalog. 
But in this special screen time 

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episode, we're under the 
umbrella Ella Ella as we offer a

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spoiler filled review of 2026's 
Resident Evil directed by friend

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of a friend of the show, Zach 
Kreger. 

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If you like what you hear, don't
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give us your thoughts in the 
comments below. 

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Mike, this isn't our season 
finale. 

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Although, folks, I swear that's 
coming very soon. 

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I swear. 
It's, it's, it exists, it's, 

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it's real. 
But so excited to talk to you 

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about this movie. 
What's your history with the 

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Resident Evil franchise? 
Like movie and game? 

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I think it's almost in. 
I mean, aside from the overlap 

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that just comes from like it's 
pop culture presence, I think it

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is almost entirely constrained 
to 2010 when I saw over 100 

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movies in theater. 
And one of which I, because I 

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was seeing a ton of movies, I 
was watching a trailer and it 

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was this thing where real quick,
I'm like, oh, this is a video 

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game movie. 
I don't know what I like. 

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I, I wasn't paying attention to 
things that were coming out in 

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terms of like, Oh, I knew this 
was in development, but I'm 

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watching it and just like 
zombie, zombie boss zombie 

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zombie zombie zombie boss 
zombie. 

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This has got to be a video game 
movie. 

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And then it's it was Resident 
Evil Afterlife. 

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Which? 
I did see and it is one of the 

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only movies I think justified 
3D. 

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Oh, OK, Because you're like me. 
You you like hokey 3D where 

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stuff's coming at you a lot. 
That's exactly what it is. 

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It's I, I, I had had very few 
movies that I saw in 3D and I'm 

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like, that justified 3D. 
And the ones that did, usually 

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the couple that did, usually it 
is because they did gimmicky 3D,

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but they did it sufficiently 
well as gimmicky 3D that it's 

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like, yeah, you could put this 
in a theme park and it would fit

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in. 
Like you could replace Captain 

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EO with 15 minutes of this movie
and you get the same feel. 

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That's amazing. 
Hear that Derek? 

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Mike is pro hokey 3 DII am too, 
although I go ahead. 

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I just it's because if it's not 
hokey it has no point being 

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there and usually just becomes 
distracting or headache 

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inducing. 
Yeah, I I will say that there 

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were a few shots in the Silent 
Hill 3D movie where it actually 

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did kind of a cool thing with 
depth, because I don't know if 

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you're familiar with that 
franchise, but in that game you 

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get transported to a hellscape. 
And so they actually did a cool 

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thing where with the 3D effect, 
they made it seem like hell was 

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extending infinitely in all 
directions. 

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But I I am also a fan of like 
the Harold and Kumar Christmas 

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special. 
Like make stuff fly at my face 

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kind of three. 
DI did discover with that one 

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because I saw that as a test 
screening where they just kind 

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of, and so it wasn't in 3D and 
they just kind of let you know 

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like what would be happening and
that it was going to be in 3D. 

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And I kind of feel like, oh, I 
don't even necessarily need this

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to be in three. 
DI seem to know that it's meant 

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to be in 3D and I'm good with 
those jokes. 

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Right. 
Yeah, the jokes still land. 

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It's interesting because I I 
must have seen the first 

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Resident Evil movie starring 
Mila Javovich and you know, the 

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has the famous like hallway 
laser grid that dices people up.

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That's a really famous horror 
scene. 

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Very, very fun. 
But I don't even know for sure 

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if I have. 
But I played a quite a few of 

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the games, multiple versions of 
the first Resident Evil. 

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I beat Resident Evil 4 and five.
I played revelations for the 

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switch. 
I played Umbrella Chronicles 

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which was the pretty 
aggressively mid light gun 

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shooter on the Wii. 
So my experience way more with 

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the games. 
You had some experience with the

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movie, How about Zach Kreger's 
work? 

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Like I am a huge fan of of 
Weapons. 

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I think that movie was so good 
and so timely. 

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Like you know, as a teacher I 
think a lot about society 

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scapegoating teachers. 
And I loved the plot of that 

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movie and was very eager to see 
what Resident Evil would bring 

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to the table. 
Had you seen Kreger's other 

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horror films? 
Yeah. 

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So I mean, it was to go back 
since I had started following 

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the Twitch activities of what 
whitest kids during COVID was. 

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It was very interesting. 
And. 

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And from being like from LA. 
So there's a bit where he wasn't

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around because he was off 
directing a movie in Europe. 

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And like, that's the thing. 
Like, I know people that have 

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done that. 
And then you never really hear 

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about the movie. 
It's like, I'm glad you're 

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getting work like that. 
That's a positive. 

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But it's like it's just not 
every movie when you're doing 

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that is necessarily a big deal. 
That one turned into Barbarian. 

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Yeah. 
And it was wild to see that 

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snowball and definitely going to
see that that it's opening 

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weekend and the energy that sort
of came out of that in terms of 

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putting comedy in horror, which 
he's not the and just being good

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at doing horror, which he's not 
the first person to do that jump

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from comedy over to horror. 
And so that was seeing that one.

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And then I saw weapons, which I 
was less or there's parts of it 

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that really impressed me. 
I still haven't had a chance to 

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go back to it after hearing him 
talk. 

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How much of that is about sort 
of the meaning that came out of 

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that one? 
Because I think Weapons was 

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written, I believe that was 
written shortly after Trevor 

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Moore from Whitest Kids died and
that a lot of influence was 

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coming out of that, I think, or 
out of grief dealing with that. 

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Yeah. 
It has bits that I think really 

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don't gel and it has bits that 
are really good, so it was a bit

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more inconsistent. 
OK, OK. 

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I mean, to me, I I feel like 
that's one of the all time great

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horror films. 
And I do wonder how much of that

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is how much I feel like they got
the teacher characters right. 

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Like teachers are so often in 
film, either this Mr. Holland's 

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Opus paragon of wonder, or they 
are the worst teacher sitting on

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their phone while kids throw 
paper balls back and forth. 

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And so the way that that 
character was written, I think 

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really took me along for the 
ride. 

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And I feel very similar about 
Resident Evil. 

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So let's get into it, Mike. 
You ready to survive this 

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horror? 
I mean, I think, I don't know if

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that's if that's happening, but 
we can give it a shot. 

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All right, so let's get into it.
Resident Evil released in 

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theaters worldwide 2026. 
As described on imdb.com, 

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Resident Evil follows A hapless 
Courier tasked with delivering a

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package to a remote hospital. 
He soon finds himself caught in 

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the middle of an outbreak and 
must fight through hordes of 

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mutated creatures to survive. 
Let's take a quick look at the 

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films poster, since that's 
sometimes people's first 

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impressions. 
There's a wider range of posters

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for this movie. 
There's the one where it is a 

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bird's eye view of our 
protagonist car and his 

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headlights are shining on a 
zombie in the road. 

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There is just the kind of the 
generic close up zombie that I 

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used for the cover art for this 
episode. 

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But the standee that Derek and I
saw at the Orange Theater, AMC 

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Orange was the shot from the 
movie where it's just the front 

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door of a house and there is a 
real web of limbs coming out of 

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the darkness. 
Arms and legs in all directions,

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including literally straight up.
Mike. 

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Are we liking this as a poster? 
I'm not sure it does much for me

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personally, like I think it just
it doesn't give me a sense of 

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too much. 
Yeah, and, and I think that 

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could be wise for horror. 
Like, you don't want to show too

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much. 
You want to leave some shock and

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surprises. 
What I like about it is that, 

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you know, it kind of follows the
philosophy of the movie itself, 

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which Craiger stated as, hey, 
I'm not going to, I'm not going 

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to retell the stories from the 
games. 

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Gamers already have those 
stories. 

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I don't want to do that. 
And I'm not sure if you're 

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aware, but there's all these 
different flavors of Resident 

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Evil games. 
Some of them are third person 

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focusing on the zombie outbreak 
in the city. 

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Some of them are first person 
and you are just locked in like 

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this one single family home and 
you're just kind of subjected to

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horror within that sort of 
residential as opposed to 

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Resident Evil, Residential Evil,
I guess. 

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And so I like that this poster 
establish that this is going to 

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be its own thing. 
There's nothing quite like demon

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or ghost like in the series. 
And the fact that the Lynn just 

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poking in all different 
directions, to me, it didn't 

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remind me of anything explicitly
from the game. 

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And I think that that's the 
marketing team communicating to 

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people like, hey, don't go into 
this expecting Jill Valentine or

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Albert Wesker. 
And you've never played any of 

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the game, so those names meant 
nothing to you. 

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Then they mean stuff to me only 
because like within the gaming 

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space, they get talked about. 
Yeah, yeah, the master of 

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unlocking. 
That's a meme some fans just 

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got. 
What I meant with that is this. 

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The franchise that has the 
sandwich thing. 

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The Jill sandwich. 
Yeah, you almost get squished. 

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I was almost a Jill sandwich. 
There we go. 

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Yeah, see, I know bits. 
Yeah, that's fine. 

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You got enough. 
But also, you know, in our 

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Discord and everybody joined the
discard www.theoldswitcharoo.com

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if you want the invite link. 
But one of our friends in the 

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Discord, Jeremy with two eyes 
was saying that, you know, this 

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is a movie you can enjoy even if
you don't know the games. 

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And so I definitely found that 
to be true. 

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Yeah. 
And I I think some of that, I 

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think he's now apparently 
described it as like a 

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preemptive apology tour for 
this, because what is kind of 

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interesting is he since he is a 
gamer like this, Yeah, that 

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career is a great gamer. 
Like he didn't seek, he wasn't 

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sought out to pay come do a a 
franchise movie. 

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He had an idea that he pitched 
to them of like, hey, if you'd 

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let me do a movie, this is what 
I'd do. 

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But one of the things he has 
talked about is like he has 

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never seen a Resident Evil 
movie. 

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I. 
Read that, yeah. 

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And what is interesting about 
that because his explanation for

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it was they don't look like the 
Resident Evil that he really 

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likes in terms of survival 
horror game. 

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And then which I kind of get 
because from having seen one of 

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those, it is someone who's very 
competent doing whole, you know,

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defeating wave after wave of 
thing. 

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And that is not the same thing 
as certainly as survival horror 

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as a genre, whether or not, you 
know, I can't say like and that 

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doesn't feel like the game, but 
I definitely get his point to be

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like I he was very clear and 
allotted every kind of time 

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hiking up that his goal was 
really to be getting the kind of

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feelings that you feel when 
playing a Resident Evil game 

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rather than getting the plot 
points of the Resident Evil 

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game. 
Yeah, yeah, 100%. 

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And having someone, being 
someone who has played the 

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Resident Evil games, he really 
nailed it. 

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Like, I mean, I'm sure you 
noticed video gaming moments. 

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I bet there's some Easter eggs 
you didn't quite pick up on. 

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There's a bit in the sewers 
where he pans up for a moment, 

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and there's plants hanging down.
I mean, you could kind of take 

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in a couple different ways. 
To me, it seemed video gamey in 

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the way that like you can climb 
vines or whatever, but then also

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there were shots like the green 
herbs is a big thing in Resident

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Evil. 
It's like how you heal. 

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So like there's a scene where 
he's going through this dark 

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tunnel and one car is like full 
of green plants for some reason.

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And so there's also another part
where like he he sees a 

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typewriter and if you I don't 
remember that shot, it's in that

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when he's in the house. 
That's the safe point for 

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Resident Evil games. 
And so the the stranger next to 

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me, we both Bristol were like 
safe point like. 

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But it's also fun, though, for 
fans of the game because you 

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know when the Gabe gives you a 
safe point, you got a boss 

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encounter coming up. 
So we're like, Oh, God, there's 

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something in the house. 
And, you know, I think this was 

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a really smart and fun and kind 
of novel approach to video game 

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movie making. 
Perhaps that's why, according to

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Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, 
it is the highest ranked film 

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based on a video game for either
platform. 

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Rotten Tomatoes 95% as of 
recording, Metacritic 81. 

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And then also, I want to get 
your take on this. 

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There was an interview with 
Craiger for The Hollywood 

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Reporter, and he was talking 
about his reaction to the test 

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screenings and if I can just 
read you the quote, he told the 

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Reporter. 
I learned that people really 

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like the movie, but they thought
it was too funny. 

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Over the course of my testing, I
stripped out as many jokes as 

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possible. 
I then found that not only did 

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the audience enjoy the movie 
more, but I like the movie a lot

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more. 
A little bit of humor goes a 

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long way in a horror movie, and 
there's not a single joke I took

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out of this movie that I miss. 
I don't know how your theater 

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was responding or how you 
responded, but this movie had me

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howling with laughter. 
I thought it was so funny, and I

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did not expect that at all. 
The advertisements didn't 

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suggest that. 
The brand certainly doesn't 

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suggest that Resident Evil is 
not intentionally funny. 

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So I was like, holy, this is 
like, this is this felt so much 

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like a horror movie by a Whitest
Kids alum. 

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Did the humor land with you? 
I think it didn't. 

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I think part of it was at least 
with with what remains, like I'm

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curious what kind of stuff was 
pulled out, but I think a huge 

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amount of it is this isn't like 
MCU quippy kind of stuff. 

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A lot of this is or one of my 
favorite parts about this is 

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Barrett gets to the plot stuff 
is like early on, you know, he 

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gets a hold of a gun, does not 
know what he is doing. 

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So part of it it, you know, 
firing fairly wild wildly. 

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And then when he tries to get 
away, he realizes he shot his 

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own car. 
Jump forward maybe half an hour 

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in the movie when he's met up 
with with a couple other people 

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and is he's like, OK, got to 
deal with something. 

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So he's trying to assemble a gun
and he accidentally sets it up. 

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He accidentally fires it in the 
car. 

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And the other guy, like the last
bit he says is like, you're just

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you're not supposed to do that 
in a car. 

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It's like you could shoot the 
engine. 

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And and it's this great bit 
where it's like it is really 

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funny in terms of dramatic 
irony, but it's not like that 

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guy's not trying to be funny. 
He doesn't think that's a joke. 

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He's just like, the heck is 
wrong with you? 

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Not that the guys already done 
that once that night. 

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At the tension of that scene, 
because at that point, so OK, 

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this narrator, excuse me, this 
protagonist maybe, no, he's not 

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the narrator, the protagonist 
very dear to my heart because 

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this is about as well as I feel 
I would do in a zombie 

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apocalypse. 
He is so manic and bumbling and 

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he's always trying to do the 
next right thing, but he's never

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good at it. 
And so when you the scene you're

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referring to when he has the gun
later and he doesn't even know 

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how to load it and it keeps 
cutting to the other actor, Paul

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Walter Hauser, I believe his 
name is. 

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And you just see the butt is is 
the is the boom, boom end or as 

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bang, bang, as Jackie Casey 
would say, barrel. 

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The barrel. 
Thank you. 

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The butt is the part you hold. 
Yeah. 

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You grab onto the butt, you put 
the barrel so so the barrel of 

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the gun is just like in the 
corner of the shot, blurried and

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like so close to the other guy's
face. 

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And you're like, is he going to 
Pulp Fiction him? 

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Like what is happening? 
Because his incompetence at this

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point is like, you don't. 
You have no faith in this 

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character at any given point. 
And it adds to the humor and it 

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adds to the tension so 
wonderfully. 

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Yeah. 
And it kind of like a lot of it 

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is just him getting, I guess, 
like it doesn't a lot of even 

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like his smaller comments that 
are funny, like they don't feel 

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like they feel like what someone
would have actually said. 

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That situation where they're 
very frustrated is talking out 

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loud. 
They don't feel like the things 

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that they told, that they said, 
they said in the story the next 

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day. 
Right yes yeah, it felt 

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authentic. 
I I love the scenes where like 

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he's seeing one of the first 
mutations happened for his eyes,

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like interesting. 
OK, OK. 

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You know, and it's I didn't 
deliver that line well because I

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sound genuinely interested. 
He there's still horror behind 

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every word, but he is like sort 
of acknowledging the surreal. 

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What the hell is this that's in 
front of him. 

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I thought his reactions were 
really good. 

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Just just a really great actor. 
Austin Abrams played him and, 

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you know, this movie not really 
having any big, big names. 

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I was very happy to see that. 
Oh, this guy's going to carry 

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the movie. 
Like I rooted for him the entire

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time and it it makes the ending 
so much more interesting. 

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Yeah, and and he does a good job
because he does have to really 

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carry this because it is most of
the time it really is just him. 

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Yeah, I don't even know if the 
camera ever leaves him. 

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I feel like it's his story of a 
couple hours of his hellish 

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life. 
Does the can you, can you recall

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a single shot where he wasn't at
least in the background? 

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I don't think the camera leaves 
him the whole movie. 

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There's some. 
OK. 

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There's some, but there's still 
there's still scenes where he's 

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present even if he's not in the 
shot. 

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I guess that's what I mean. 
Like, yeah, there are shots 

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where like the cameras panning 
around to show something spooky 

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ahead, but he's still in the 
room. 

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So very attached to the 
narrator, very, very in the 

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storytelling. 
So are we ready to go over the 

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joys and prong joys and prawns? 
I always do that. 

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You know what? 
There are some shrimp like 

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monsters in here. 
The joy pros and joy cons and 

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work through the spoiler filled 
Plot Summary. 

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All right. 
OK, so let's get into it here. 

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Full spoilers from here on out. 
Medical Courier Brian agrees to 

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take a mysterious time sensitive
package to Raccoon General 

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Hospital in Raccoon City, 
Colorado. 

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On the way, Brian and his 
girlfriend Michelle argue over 

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her pregnancy and he 
accidentally hits the woman 

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crossing the road. 
Brian takes the injured 

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catatonic woman into his car, 
but Deputy Sheriff Wilson pulls 

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him over, takes the woman and 
tells Brian to follow him. 

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The cruiser suddenly swerves and
crashes, killing Wilson. 

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The woman attacks Brian, who 
shoots her with Officer Wilson's

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gun. 
So immediately I felt like the 

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acting was very good. 
The way the movie was shot was 

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very good. 
The opening scene is him 

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delivering A transplant organ to
a hospital. 

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And it is so hectic, and you're 
looking at all these injuries, 

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and you're like, are these 
related to zombies? 

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Or is this just, like an ER, you
know, tense setting? 

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And the first conflict of the 
movie is that the Doctor Who 

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takes the transplant organ does 
not sign for it, and the woman 

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at the front desk is refusing to
sign for it. 

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And that is such a relatable and
believable predicament, you 

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know, that I immediately feel 
like it's a very everyman 

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problem we've all been in that 
frustrating, like bureaucratic, 

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you know, situation. 
But then also I, I thought the 

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argument or discussion, intense 
discussion he was having with 

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his girlfriend was also really 
interesting because it kind of 

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ties movies together 
thematically. 

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But, you know, the the conflict 
there is that his girlfriend is 

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pregnant and he doesn't know the
right thing to do. 

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Slash say he knows he wants to 
be supportive of his girlfriend,

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but also he doesn't feel ready 
to be a father, you know, and 

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the movie is smart and brave 
enough to be like, hey, like 

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this is Colorado. 
Women still have, you know, 

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control of the reproductive 
health. 

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A young man might consider this 
as an option. 

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And I also think that's kind of 
gutsy in the beginning of your 

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movie because there's a certain,
you know, a piece of the 

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audience that will turn on him 
for considering, you know, not 

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keeping the child. 
And then, you know, that child 

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motif and pregnancy and, you 
know, life being created. 

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That's going to play throughout 
the whole film. 

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I I do. 
Also really, really enjoy the 

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comment that he has in there of 
because he's trying to because 

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he's not home, he's he's at 
working was he has a comment 

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about how how he's carrying a 
life here. 

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Oh my God. 
And it's this. 

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Great bit where it's just 
because it's not him being 

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funny, but it's just like you're
not thinking out what you're 

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saying clearly. 
I am so embarrassed. 

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I'm a bad feminist, Mike. 
I didn't even realize the irony 

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of that line, but that's also 
maybe that's why I relate to him

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because like he says, like, you 
know, your body, it's your 

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choice and she's like, that's a 
terrible answer. 

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He's like, that's the best 
answer. 

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But I also thought like what a 
great way to build character in 

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like a 45 second conversation 
because he genuinely wants to do

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the right thing. 
Is he really saying how he feels

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or is he saying what he thinks 
he should say? 

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I you know, you can kind of made
to doubt that. 

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And then when he decides to, 
well, he acts like he has to 

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work and he accepts another 
shift. 

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He could have gone home and been
with his girlfriend, who was, 

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you know, kind of having a 
crisis, but he chose to work and

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acted like he had to. 
I mean, I think some of that is 

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also there's just a way out of 
thing. 

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Like if you're getting double 
paid, it does turn into like, 

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yeah, technically that was a 
choice. 

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But right, societally, sometimes
it's like, yeah, I feel like I 

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can't, you know, I get the I 
can't say no to that. 

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That's double pay. 
Right. 

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And he's a working man and he 
might have a baby on the way. 

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00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,120
You're right. 
You know what? 

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I take it all back, Mike, 
Mike's. 

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Mike's a smart guy, you guys. 
He he's he's he's the big 

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picture. 
But so then he makes the 

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decision to accept an extra 
shift and take what the audience

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has led to believe is a very 
important like organ, you know, 

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to someone who needs a 
transplant. 

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He keeps referring to like this 
could be a kids heart man. 

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And it's like, it's so funny 
that he's like so adamant that 

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he has to save a child that he 
doesn't know, but he is less 

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interested in the potential 
child he might have on the way. 

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Like that is also very 
interesting and layered, but his

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decision to drive to Raccoon 
City despite multiple characters

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telling like, Hey, you need 
chains, dude. 

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And he's like, I'm fine. 
We've, I don't know if we've, if

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you've done that, you've driven 
when you're like. 

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I probably shouldn't. 
But like, I feel that sort of 

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like recklessness is also very 
relatably stupid. 

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And I feel like we've all driven
with broken windshield wipers or

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we've all kind of slid around 
the road once or twice more than

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we should. 
So it's just really establishing

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tension through this guy's 
carelessness, and that's going 

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to carry through the whole 
movie. 

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I like that a lot. 
Do you you you seem like a put 

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your chains on every time kind 
of guy. 

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I mean that requires having 
chains. 

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I'm much closer to a don't drive
if it's going to be like that 

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kind of person. 
Although a couple years ago I 

436
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,880
just had to come to the cone 
pass during the Blizzard warning

437
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,600
and was not a fan. 
But then again, also because it 

438
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,520
was a Blizzard warning and it 
was snowing like the speed, it 

439
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,080
was like 5 miles an hour through
that because nobody was moving. 

440
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,960
Yeah, yeah, 100%. 
And so the first monster he 

441
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,560
encounters this woman is the 
hits her with the car. 

442
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,280
And like, we all saw it coming. 
Like we knew what was going to 

443
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,160
happen. 
I still thought it was well shot

444
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,680
and actually, you know, to the 
credit of the film makers, there

445
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800
wasn't a single shot that took 
me out of it for like bad CG or 

446
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,600
bad special effects. 
Derek and I saw it. 

447
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Dolby Vision, which Derek, by 
the way, if you're listening, 

448
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,200
you are absolutely right. 
That is an amazing format. 

449
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,160
Mike, have you seen a Dolby 
Vision movie before? 

450
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,280
I not knowingly. 
OK, it's the sound system is 

451
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,880
incredible. 
You're basically sitting in 

452
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,880
like, a subwoofer. 
And so, like, every gunshot I 

453
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,040
felt in my chest. 
And Derek, you know, texted me. 

454
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,040
He got the tickets because I 
drove down to Orange County to 

455
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,400
see it with him. 
And he's like, hey, you keep 

456
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,960
being a little close. 
Like, we're going to be in the 

457
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,160
third row. 
And like, I was sending jokey 

458
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,400
memes of, like, Willem Dafoe, 
like, looking up all terrified. 

459
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,320
But you get there. 
Third row is a fine seat. 

460
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720
There's so much space between 
every rows. 

461
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,560
And I was like, OK, you just, 
you charge twice as much for 

462
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,360
this ticket. 
And you there's half as many 

463
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,120
seats as usual. 
This is kind of first class 

464
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,280
movie going. 
I was into it. 

465
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,200
But my point though is that I 
still found even though the beat

466
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,400
of him hitting the woman with 
his car was very telegraphed, I 

467
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800
think it was purposefully so. 
I think they were tension 

468
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,680
building. 
You're waiting for you're 

469
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,880
waiting for it. 
And I thought it was 

470
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,360
interesting. 
This might be a bit of a reach, 

471
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:31,640
but in the GameCube Resident 
Evil remake, if you do not burn 

472
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,000
the zombies after you kill them,
they will reanimate as a Crimson

473
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,360
head, which is a red zombie 
that's very hard to kill. 

474
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,280
And it will chase you around and
take up a bunch of your 

475
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,960
resources and health points. 
So I was like, I wonder if like 

476
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,480
the red dress was like sort of 
intentional. 

477
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320
But so yeah, that's, that's kind
of that first scene there. 

478
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,120
So let's go to the next one 
here. 

479
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,840
One other thing I think that 
does say something about his 

480
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,640
character as well, because he 
because it is like, OK, his 

481
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,680
competency is a question, but 
they're very much also is the 

482
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:12,200
middle of the woods, middle of 
nowhere having hit a person 

483
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:19,320
who's gone and he has to go. 
Like I feel like a lot of people

484
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,640
would view that as the drive off
and say you thought that was a 

485
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,360
deer kind of thing. 100 percent,
100% and. 

486
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,280
Especially at the point where 
you get out and it's not like, 

487
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,960
oh, they're right there, I 
should do something. 

488
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000
It's like he wanders into the 
woods to go find something. 

489
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760
That's so far. 
You can probably just report 

490
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,640
that somewhere and just be like,
there's no signal and I don't 

491
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480
know where they went. 
Right. 

492
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,920
Yeah. 
And and we're thinking like, 

493
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,880
what would we do? 
And but he like, he has a big 

494
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,480
heart. 
He might be literally carrying 

495
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,040
one at this point in the movie. 
And I also really enjoyed the 

496
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,000
cop. 
That guy seemed like very like a

497
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280
Dumber movie would have had him 
be like, what you do to her, 

498
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,640
draw the guns and then the 
zombie. 

499
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,200
And that scene would have been, 
you know, maybe 2 minutes long. 

500
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,120
But I love the police officer, 
you know, giving him the 

501
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,520
breathalyzer and, like, 
everything about his story is 

502
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,560
checking out. 
So he's like, OK, like, I'm 

503
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,960
going to escort you to the 
hospital. 

504
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,040
And then when he's like, can she
ride with you? 

505
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,440
That is such great dramatic 
irony of we know what movie 

506
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,200
we're watching. 
We know how much danger they're 

507
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,840
in. 
But the zombie is just sitting 

508
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,120
in his passenger seat just kind 
of pawn at him. 

509
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,280
He's like, yeah, she keeps doing
that. 

510
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,920
And it was so funny. 
And then the cop his side when 

511
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,600
he's like Oh my God God yes I 
should probably take the injured

512
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,840
person in my car. 
Everyone in this movie seemed so

513
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,120
human with I would say maybe 1 
exception but even I think that 

514
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,160
was intentional comedy coming up
like. 

515
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,120
The the one bit with that was 
where I'm just like, why don't 

516
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520
you just put her in the back of 
the car? 

517
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240
I thought that movie, right, 
Yes. 

518
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,880
But then, you know, as the main 
character point, I was like, 

519
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,240
what if she has a stroke or 
something? 

520
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
So I don't know. 
I don't know, you know, if 

521
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,240
you're an officer, leave a 
comment. 

522
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,240
What is the procedure when 
someone's hurt? 

523
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Do they ride up front with you 
so you can keep an eye on them 

524
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,240
or do they go on the back? 
I would think probably the back,

525
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,320
right? 
I. 

526
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,280
It feels like certainly if you 
already had a, she's reaching 

527
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,000
around, it's like, OK, that's 
you have a secured location, 

528
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,520
right? 
You're a cop car. 

529
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,320
OK, so then warding her off with
the gun, not warding her off, he

530
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680
shoots her. 
And I also love that bit of 

531
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,800
comedy you mentioned where he 
shoots his own engine because he

532
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,840
goes up and goes who the hell 
shot my car? 

533
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,960
And then he looks at the gun is 
Oh my God, that's so funny. 

534
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Better. 
Because it pans back over to see

535
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,600
where the shots would have come 
from and it's it's like it's 

536
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,160
looking straight at the pop car.
And I didn't see it coming. 

537
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,080
I somehow didn't see that 
coming. 

538
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,120
So such good writing. 
Having accidentally shot his 

539
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880
car's engine, Brian walks to a 
nearby house and is attacked by 

540
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,680
a mutated dog, which he kills. 
Inside, the homie finds a finds 

541
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
a double barreled shotgun and 
leaves Michelle a voicemail. 

542
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Upstairs, he finds ammunition 
and sees the woman running 

543
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,240
toward the house before suddenly
being attacked by her husband, 

544
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,400
whom he kills before using the 
shotgun to shoot the woman's 

545
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040
head off. 
Shocked, he watches as tentacles

546
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,600
emerge from their corpses, 
fusing them together. 

547
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,920
After failing to leave in the 
couple's truck, Brian flees on 

548
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
foot and enters a dark tunnel. 
Inside, he finds an RV and a 

549
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,240
young infected girl who begs him
to save her. 

550
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,720
While attempting to help her, 
she mutates and bites him, 

551
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,000
causing Brian to shoot her. 
So to me, this was when the 

552
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,120
movie really showed its colors. 
This is when it really feels 

553
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,880
like a video game in so many 
ways. 

554
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,000
The Are you familiar with the 
importance or like the legacy of

555
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:47,240
the Resident Evil Dogs I. 
I'm not sure if this is the one 

556
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360
that had a bit where they'd like
jump through windows somewhere. 

557
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Yes, it was iconic. 
It is probably to this day the 

558
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,120
most famous jump scare of any 
video game. 

559
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,200
But so it's in the first game. 
And the genius of that scene is 

560
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,160
that you are going through a 
hallway that you have already 

561
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,000
been through many times. 
And so the rules of the game 

562
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,600
have taught you enter a room, 
very scary, what's in here, kill

563
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,520
what's in here. 
And now this room is clear. 

564
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,320
And so for the first time and it
probably any horror game, you're

565
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
going through an area and your 
nerves are low because and then 

566
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,720
boom, they breakthrough the 
window, the music kicks in. 

567
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,120
It is heart stoppingly scary. 
And then when they remade the 

568
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,560
game later, they had that same 
scene, but the dogs jump and hit

569
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,160
the window, but it doesn't 
break. 

570
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,320
And you're like, oh God, they're
saving that for later. 

571
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,400
I don't even know when it's 
going to happen now. 

572
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Such such an iconic scene. 
So when he very clumsily climbs 

573
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,120
over the electric fence, taking 
like a shock to the groin, which

574
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,760
would totally happen to me, his 
just even his, his, his, his 

575
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,960
slapstick, his physical comedy 
of trying to build up the 

576
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,880
courage to hop over an electric 
fence. 

577
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,400
That's, I don't know, maybe 2 
1/2 feet tall, like he should be

578
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,120
able to clear this thing. 
He clumsily, you know, jumps 

579
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,560
over it. 
And then one of the scariest 

580
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,960
shots in the movie to me is he's
looking across the snowy field. 

581
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,480
He can see a bit into it either 
cuz the moonlight or the light 

582
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,680
from the car. 
I don't know, but I guess 

583
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,880
probably the headlights in the 
car actually logically. 

584
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,200
And you just see the shape of 
this guard dog who's like a 

585
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,360
good, like half a mile away, 
making a bee line towards him. 

586
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,280
And Mike, you're not a fan of 
dogs, so I'm guessing like, this

587
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,600
probably got your blood pumping.
So he runs into the barn and he 

588
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120
climbs up a ladder and he pulls 
the ladder away. 

589
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,960
Very Resident Evil 4. 
That's how you escape the first 

590
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,680
mob in Resident Evil 4. 
And he has this really clever 

591
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,280
idea of like, oh, I'm going to 
use the ladder to close the barn

592
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,240
door, keep the dog locked 
inside. 

593
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,480
You thought that was clever, 
right? 

594
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Yeah, Yeah, it was, it was OK. 
Good move, right? 

595
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,800
And I had presumed because 
because he's realized, you know,

596
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,000
there's an entrance from the 
from up in the loft. 

597
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Yeah, there's a way out. 
Yeah. 

598
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,600
So it's like, OK, he's got and 
he's got a ladder. 

599
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,160
And then he throws down the 
ladder. 

600
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Eat ladder. 
And he throws it at the dog and 

601
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,720
misses. 
And then he goes to his exit. 

602
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,360
Sure. 
Could he use that ladder? 

603
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,080
So it's so funny. 
I'm I'm dumb, laughing so hard 

604
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,960
my cheeks are hurting. 
But then there's a little hook 

605
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,040
on like a line and he's got a 
jump to reach it. 

606
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Very video gamey. 
But of course it doesn't support

607
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,800
his weight and he just eats it. 
And so that's like, that's for 

608
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,600
to me, this movie is showing its
formula of we're going to make 

609
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240
this feel like a video game and 
then show you how it would 

610
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,120
actually go. 
And that is the comedy of this 

611
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,200
movie The whole time. 
And it never got old for me. 

612
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,080
I was just, I was so into it. 
It made me realize how long it's

613
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200
been since I just got some good 
slapstick. 

614
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Like I feel like physical humor 
is not done very often anymore. 

615
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,720
And so then the dog is locked in
the barn. 

616
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,239
He has escaped. 
He's kind of, I don't know, 

617
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,360
stupidly invincible. 
He goes through a lot, but it 

618
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,199
kind of never lets him stop him.
I love the of Jeff Bridges and 

619
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,520
the Big Lebowski just getting 
tortured the whole time, but 

620
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,480
he's relieved. 
And then the dog's head breaks 

621
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,280
through the wood and it's great 
because that's the scare from 

622
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,800
the game. 
You thought you were safe. 

623
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,199
The the barrier that you were 
counting on breaks away. 

624
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Monster dog. 
And so the audience, we all had 

625
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,800
a big jump and but the dog's 
head, a dog can't get out of the

626
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,159
hole. 
It's still wedged in, so you 

627
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,080
think you're safe. 
And then the dog's head splits 

628
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,000
open all of John Carpenter's The
Thing and grabs at him. 

629
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,600
And it's another jump scare 
where the audience assumed it 

630
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,920
was. 
I'm getting goosebumps. 

631
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:05,080
This is just like, this is art. 
What did you think of the phone 

632
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,240
call scene? 
So he gets into the house, he, 

633
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,560
he finds a shotgun, finds 
ammunition. 

634
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,760
Very video gamey, right? 
And then the phone rings. 

635
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Did that get you going? 
You get your heartbeat thumping.

636
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,760
Not really. 
Or cuz that cuz that one is he's

637
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,720
already found the phone and he's
called and left a voicemail for 

638
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:33,240
his girlfriend with way 
insufficient information about 

639
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,080
the situation. 
I thought that too. 

640
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:47,400
So I think like that call coming
back is not or didn't have that 

641
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,600
response. 
I think in in part because at 

642
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:56,320
sort of the same time as that 
you have our initial zombie 

643
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880
again, like he sees her running 
basically straight at the house.

644
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,520
There's a bit where, like there 
are, she's already coming for 

645
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,920
him. 
The phone call doesn't change 

646
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,680
any of that at that point. 
Right, right, right. 

647
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Well, to me, so, So what I'm 
referring to by the phone call 

648
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,360
is as Mike said, he has 911 is, 
is busy or engaged, as they 

649
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,200
would say in Shaun of the dead. 
So he he goes, well, I can't get

650
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,400
a hold of the authorities. 
I'm just going to call my 

651
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,240
girlfriend, which is also 
interesting because it's just 

652
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,200
kind of telling you like he 
doesn't have anybody else. 

653
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,240
There's no family. 
There's no, there's no one else 

654
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,640
he's going to talk to. 
I thought that was a nice little

655
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,240
detail of like, you know, kind 
of revealing his loneliness. 

656
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,040
I love the scene where he's 
looking for ammo and he starts 

657
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,120
eating some cereal and it's just
like little bits like that. 

658
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,480
I'm like, Yep, Like, that's what
you got to feel yourself. 

659
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:49,440
That's what you do. 
But so he has armed himself and 

660
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,880
he sees the red dress woman who 
he has already killed running 

661
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,840
back to the house. 
And it's a very Monty Python 

662
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,520
like it's moment where you like 
see, you know, the person far 

663
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,200
away. 
And so you think, okay, I got 

664
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,160
some time before they're going 
to get here. 

665
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,640
And then from out of the 
darkness, a zombie you didn't 

666
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,520
even know was in the house 
tackles him to the ground. 

667
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,480
I just about had a heart attack 
that was such an effective jump 

668
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,360
scare in a movie that's already 
had a few. 

669
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,360
And so as he's fighting off 
these zombies, his girlfriend is

670
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920
calling the house he's in, I 
guess she got the number from 

671
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
the caller ID or whatever. 
And she's like, OK, you made 

672
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,320
this sound like it was some kind
of emergency as he's fighting 

673
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,680
for his life. 
So darkly ironic. 

674
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,920
But I just love the tension of, 
like, if only he could get to 

675
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,320
that phone, but he can't get to 
that phone. 

676
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
And I think this movie does a 
really good job of adding two 

677
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,800
points of tension so that you're
not only scared, but you're 

678
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,440
feeling very frantic. 
And then this is the moment 

679
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,240
where the movie evokes Resident 
Evil 4 the most. 

680
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,320
Are you familiar with how 
Resident Evil 4 changes up like 

681
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,880
the monsters? 
I am not. 

682
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,600
So in most Resident Evil 
stories, it is a zombie virus 

683
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,760
caused by a pharmaceutical 
company, right? 

684
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,680
Resident Evil 4 establishes that
what you think are zombies are 

685
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,120
actually sort of brain 
controlled by this thing called 

686
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040
the Las Plagas. 
And it's this entity, it's this 

687
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Organism that is growing inside 
of you. 

688
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
And one of the most iconic 
moments in that game is when you

689
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,920
to get your first headshot and 
the zombies head explodes and 

690
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:28,200
then you see this tendril rise 
up from the gaping neck wound 

691
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,600
and you're like, what the hell 
is that thing? 

692
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,040
This is way more complicated 
than I thought it was. 

693
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,200
So when the decapitated zombies 
start to reach out for each 

694
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,600
other with tendrils, I was like,
OK, I see what you're doing now.

695
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,120
You're going to evoke a lot of 
different Resident Evil games 

696
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,760
within one story. 
So were you also frustrated by 

697
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680
when he went into that tunnel 
and there was the RV blocking 

698
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,760
the way and he went inside the 
RV to get through? 

699
00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:05,080
Did that frustrate you? 
I wouldn't necessarily that he 

700
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,240
did didn't how he did did. 
What a sentence. 

701
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Please elaborate. 
Your option, your options are 

702
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,440
sort of through, over or under, 
right? 

703
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,840
And I feel like under would have
been a vulnerability and over 

704
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,760
didn't have something that you 
could climb up clearly. 

705
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,560
OK. 
However, I I thought you'd be 

706
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,680
able to get out like that was, 
though he does go to like the 

707
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,720
driver's, the driver's spot 
first. 

708
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,160
I think he tries to open it and 
it can't, but I'm like, it's got

709
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,000
a window and you have a gun. 
The window did seem a little 

710
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,640
small though, Like I don't know 
if cuz you know, it's funny cuz 

711
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,960
the, what I thought would 
frustrate you is what frustrated

712
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,800
me of like dude, just belly 
crawl underneath the RV. 

713
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,120
But as you pointed out, if there
might be monsters in the tunnel,

714
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400
you don't necessarily want to be
like on your belly. 

715
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,840
I, I, I, I do kind of see your 
point there. 

716
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080
But this is also very video 
gamey. 

717
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520
In horror games, they're always 
finding ways to create barriers.

718
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,800
Because a truly open world 
horror game wouldn't really have

719
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,080
much horror to it because you 
would always be able to escape. 

720
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,360
So in horror games, they're 
creating artificial corridors 

721
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,080
and in this one, making the RV 
wedged in the tunnel. 

722
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,920
I was like, OK, also super video
gaming. 

723
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,600
And then this is the scene that 
establishes what happens. 

724
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960
I guess when some people get 
bit, it definitely seems like 

725
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,400
some people just become zombies.
But then people like this little

726
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,760
girl in the RV, they mutate and 
like she has this foot that is 

727
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,400
turning into like a octopus 
tendril kind of situation, but 

728
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,640
always trying to do the next 
right thing. 

729
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,440
He's like, OK, let's get you out
of here. 

730
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,440
And he starts to lift the little
girl, who then it's like the 

731
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,320
tendrils are attacking him and 
the little girl is just at the 

732
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,960
mercy of them. 
And then her face splits open. 

733
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,840
This movie kept getting me with 
the, the, the, the John 

734
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Carpenter horror. 
Did you also like the monster 

735
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,840
special effects? 
They were definitely good 'cause

736
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,440
they it was good at sort of 
throwing curveballs at you where

737
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,320
I was like, OK, this is not what
it seemed. 

738
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,720
Even even where you think you 
understand where the problems 

739
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:27,000
are, like, yeah, you're like, 
OK, that's a that whole foot 

740
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,600
situation is a problem, not 
actually the real, the biggest 

741
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,720
concern. 
Right. 

742
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,480
Like I can manage the tentacles 
that the face splits open and 

743
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,280
that's coming at you too. 
And then he's like, he gets out 

744
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,320
of the RV. 
He's like, that didn't just 

745
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,800
happen. 
I did not just kill a little 

746
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,000
girl. 
And it's just like, Oh my God, 

747
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,200
this poor guy. 
And then, you know, and that 

748
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,600
ties back to him like low key 
considering an abortion or 

749
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,240
whatever. 
And I'm not saying abortion is 

750
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,280
murder, but I'm saying there is 
a thematic connection with him 

751
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,600
constantly being confronted with
ideas of innocence and 

752
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,760
mortality. 
And you know what's what's, 

753
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,040
what's the right thing? 
Do you survive or do you 

754
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,800
sacrifice yourself for the lives
of others? 

755
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160
I don't know, probably. 
Could have just not opened the 

756
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,160
thing with the knocking. 
That what you would have done, 

757
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,240
you would have gone right 
through. 

758
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640
I am not open in that to find 
out what's in there. 

759
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,040
But he saw the little girl's 
drawings. 

760
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Mike, like, come on. 
Yeah, there's enough indications

761
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,720
there to be like, you know, this
is because it's, there's also 

762
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,160
another one like, well, what are
you going to do? 

763
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,920
And there's currently nothing 
attacking you. 

764
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,040
So I think there's also an 
element of I'm going to move on 

765
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,000
and just be like, hey, we've 
done this, go check that because

766
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,800
if she's fine, she is in a 
secure location and you've 

767
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,040
removed her from 1:00. 
Wow, you know, you sound 

768
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,120
monstrous but also way smarter 
than me. 

769
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,720
This is why you do better. 
This guy, I did almost 

770
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,160
everything. 
I would do almost everything he 

771
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,000
did. 
But so then it's also 

772
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,240
establishing like, you know, 
because he bites her. 

773
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
And I was like, wow, this is 
early in the movie for your main

774
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,120
character to get Zombie. 
Back by the way around there. 

775
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080
One more time. 
You said he bites her. 

776
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000
Yeah, that would be way more 
disturbing, actually. 

777
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,960
She bites him. 
And I thought, wow, like pretty 

778
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,640
early to have your, you know, 
main character become infected. 

779
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,040
But we've also seen with the 
little girl, it's not 

780
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,280
necessarily just I become a 
zombie and it's not necessarily 

781
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,200
quick. 
But now we have this ticking 

782
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,360
clock situation of, I mean, 
there was already the ticking 

783
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,720
clock because he's transporting 
what he thinks is an organ that 

784
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:46,720
will go bad. 
But now he is he himself is 

785
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,520
going to expire. 
Ah, this movie. 

786
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,560
So many layers, so let's get to 
the next section here. 

787
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,920
Outside the tunnel, he is 
rescued by Umbrella Corporation 

788
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,280
employees Paul and Maxine, who 
fend off the woman, now an 

789
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,480
amalgam of various corpses. 
Paul explains to Brian that 

790
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Umbrella is responsible for the 
ongoing outbreak in Raccoon 

791
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,880
City, and that his package 
contains A stabilizer needed to 

792
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320
create a cure. 
Paul and Maxine are killed 

793
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
shortly after arriving at 
Raccoon City, and Brian, now 

794
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
armed with a submachine gun, 
escapes through the sewers. 

795
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,280
While exploring the sewers, he 
finds a pale, obese humanoid 

796
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680
creature. 
Swarms of mutated rats burst 

797
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,760
from the future stomach and 
towards Brian, who exits the 

798
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,160
sewers after shooting them. 
So when I asked Jackie if she 

799
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,240
wanted to see this movie, she 
was like, oh, you mean like the 

800
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,960
femme fatale zombie movies? 
And I didn't really ever think 

801
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,560
of Resident Evil as that. 
But then I started thinking 

802
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,680
about the franchise of the 
movies and the games. 

803
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,120
They're actually Jill Valentine,
Claire Redfield, Ada Wong, Mila 

804
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Jabovovich's character, whoever 
she is. 

805
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,720
Like I, I don't blame Jackie for
associating this franchise with 

806
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:53,000
like ass kicking women. 
So when Maxine shows up, I was 

807
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,520
like, OK, there's the ass 
kicking woman. 

808
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,880
There is the woman who is steady
aimed. 

809
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,920
She's very competent as the two 
guys say, like, oh, that was 

810
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,720
really cool. 
Look at her. 

811
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,840
She's heating up those zombies 
or whatever, lighting them up, I

812
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,360
think they say. 
And I thought, I thought she was

813
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,480
so funny dealing with Paul, the 
umbrella scientist who's kind of

814
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,320
recapping the plot for the 
audience. 

815
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,240
Then then he looks to her and 
she goes Maxine Dr. She's 

816
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,120
already driving and she's like, 
shut the fuck up, man. 

817
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,760
Like, it's so funny. 
It it has this energy of someone

818
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:35,400
who either believes it, actually
believes it, or is trying to 

819
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,080
project the idea that he's the 
1:00 calling the shots and he is

820
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,280
in no way the 1:00 calling the 
shots. 

821
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,800
A. 100% yes yes, all that 
misplaced, all the misplaced 

822
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,040
confidence in the world. 
I really love that I. 

823
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,800
Don't even mean that as a common
thing, purely as a hierarchy 

824
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,360
thing. 
It's like he's not actually in 

825
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,040
charge here and he's trying to 
play it off like he like he is 

826
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,760
the one in charge. 
Right, right. 

827
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,320
This is also the part of the 
movie that's established that 

828
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,800
the red dress woman that he 
first hit with the car is fusing

829
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,080
with more and more zombies and 
becoming this giant cartwheeling

830
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,640
like mess of limbs that is just 
chasing him. 

831
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,240
And that is a staple in the 
Resident Evil games. 

832
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,360
Mr. X or Tyrant or Lady Demescue
or the, you know, the step on me

833
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Mommy lady. 
Like, there is a lot of these 

834
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,640
games have one monster that you 
know, will be following you 

835
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,560
through the whole game. 
And so I thought that was a cool

836
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,160
tension build of like, OK, let's
put that monster in the movie. 

837
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
And every time you see it, it's 
gotten bigger and it's gotten 

838
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,680
faster and it's like, ah, we're 
gonna have to deal with that 

839
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,160
eventually. 
And so makes it really 

840
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:48,280
satisfying boss encounter later.
And I don't know that I loved 

841
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,600
the explanation of all this 
thing maximizes your 

842
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:58,120
evolutionary potential because 
how does how does becoming a 

843
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:02,880
giant receptacle for zombie rats
to burst out of, how does me 

844
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,920
becoming a rat balloon 
evolutionarily benefit me? 

845
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,800
You're a math guy, Mike. 
Explain it. 

846
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:15,160
I mean, I think it really is 
that it's the speed that that it

847
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,840
is spreading at. 
OK. 

848
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Is, I think it's almost more 
that that is, It's more that now

849
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,120
that you're not the final part 
of this evolution, but you're 

850
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,800
certainly the part of it. 
I get it. 

851
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,400
The virus is what's evolving. 
Oh, Mike, Mike, make me feel 

852
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,280
dumb over here. 
And that's, and that's part of 

853
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,200
the evolution is like, OK, if I 
have zombie rats, this is going 

854
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,880
to spread crazy fast. 
It's going to be the plague all 

855
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,360
over again. 
I got maybe one of the biggest 

856
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,520
laughs out of the movie when 
Maxine, she kills a bunch of 

857
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,440
zombies and then she just walks 
off frame and they're kind of 

858
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,080
watching like, where'd she? 
Where'd she go? 

859
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Where's she she left. 
Like, go check on her. 

860
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,520
No, I'm not checking. 
She'd want us to go on without 

861
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,480
her. 
It's like you're talking like 

862
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,280
she's dead. 
Like, will you give it a minute?

863
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,200
And then it sits with them and 
it goes, yeah, we should go. 

864
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,800
So then. 
But then, of course, Maxine has 

865
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,840
the keys. 
So our hero Brian has to go get 

866
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,360
the keys. 
He finds Maxine's severed, like 

867
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,200
someone Darth mauled her. 
It's like, it's her legs. 

868
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,600
It's just her legs with the keys
attached. 

869
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,760
And there's like, one of her 
long intestines is like trailing

870
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,760
off into the darkness. 
And so as our hero reaches for 

871
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,040
the keys, something tugs the 
legs away. 

872
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,240
And he reaches again, and it 
tugs the legs further. 

873
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,600
And he's essentially being lured
into the tunnel. 

874
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,840
And I'm thinking like, how is he
not worried about what is toying

875
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,600
with him right now? 
And then he does something that 

876
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,240
I wish more horror characters 
would do. 

877
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,200
What? 
She goes, Nope, I'm out. 

878
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,120
And he like, walks away from the
spooky tunnel. 

879
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,840
He comes back to see Paul 
getting grabbed by the monsters.

880
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,960
So he takes the submachine gun 
to shoot the tendril, shoots 

881
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,560
Paul in the leg, makes Paul die 
faster. 

882
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,000
It's just like, Oh my God. 
Arguably. 

883
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,600
Does him a favor. 
Well, sure, but he didn't shoot 

884
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,800
him in the head. 
Now he's just gonna be turned 

885
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,000
while his leg bleeds out. 
Too funny. 

886
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,080
Too freaking funny. 
Any other thoughts on that 

887
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,240
section or should we move on? 
I. 

888
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,200
Think we're good to move on? 
All right, so Brian walks 

889
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,240
towards Raccoon General and 
flees from several infected who 

890
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,960
jump off buildings toward him. 
Noticing that they don't 

891
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,520
regenerate, he enters the 
parking lot and discovers his 

892
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,400
bite is rapidly worsening. 
Dismayed, Brian tearfully 

893
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,160
records a goodbye message to 
Michelle. 

894
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Umbrella researcher Carl 
communicates with Brian V 

895
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,160
intercom, telling him to take 
the stairs to the 24th floor, 

896
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,640
crossing the sky bridge to the 
second tower and go to the 28th 

897
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,120
floor where their lab is 
exhausted. 

898
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,360
I said 28th floor. 
Yeah, there we go. 

899
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,440
Exhausted. 
Brian takes an elevator up 

900
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,880
during the ride. 
Brian is attacked by an acid 

901
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,280
vomiting infected and the 
amalgam monster, but manages to 

902
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,440
defeat them. 
He enters the maternity ward 

903
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,000
directly linked to the Sky 
bridge, which contains several 

904
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,720
blood sacks and infected 
infants. 

905
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,680
The sacks explode and several 
infected begin chasing Brian. 

906
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,000
He escapes the ward and shimmies
across the devastated sky bridge

907
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,640
to the second tower where the 
Amalgam pursues him again. 

908
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,640
Brian shoots open the wards exit
door with his last bullet, 

909
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,720
causing the infected to fall on 
the amalgam and tumble down the 

910
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,800
side of the building, killing it
once and for all. 

911
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,360
He arrives at the research lab 
and provides them with the 

912
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,080
package. 
Mike, what do you think of the 

913
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:37,080
hospital level? 
I mean, I feel like we didn't. 

914
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,360
It didn't deal with the hospital
much. 

915
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,560
Sure, I guess I'm an eternity 
ward. 

916
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,200
I will say before we get to all 
that. 

917
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,400
Yes. 
First of all, the the jumping 

918
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,120
scene. 
Yes, thank you. 

919
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:56,680
We can't skip that is. 
Impressive. 

920
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,560
And I'm not surprised to see 
that that was done practically. 

921
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,400
Yeah, that is apparently exactly
how that can go. 

922
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,840
So that seems on point. 
Yeah, yeah. 

923
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,800
Derek was telling me that, you 
know, that that scene being shot

924
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,000
practically, there were 
apparently multiple shots where 

925
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,320
the actor slash stuntman almost 
got beaned by, you know, the 

926
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,160
dummies or the actual meat sacks
wherever they were throwing off 

927
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,840
the buildings. 
But these things are are landing

928
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:29,760
like meteors, like they are just
it's it's it's one of the most 

929
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,480
intense scenes I think I've ever
seen in a horror movie because 

930
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,880
like you said, it felt so 
visceral. 

931
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,600
It felt so real. 
It felt so scary seeing the 

932
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,720
zombies run along the rooftops 
kind of chasing him. 

933
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,680
They did a similar thing in 
Matrix revolutions. 

934
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,440
I don't know if you saw the 4th 
Matrix movie. 

935
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,000
I'm actually a defender of that 
film. 

936
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,800
There was a fourth. 
Yeah, it came out, I think 

937
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,720
during COVID it was straight to 
streaming. 

938
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,520
OK, yeah, I totally missed that 
that exists. 

939
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,320
It, it was very not well 
received by I think a pretty 

940
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,440
sizable chunk of the fans. 
But weird goes a long way with 

941
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,240
me and it, it took some really 
weird swings. 

942
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,440
So I I actually am a defender of
that movie. 

943
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,760
But there is a scene in that 
movie where people are 

944
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,440
controlled by a virus and 
they're like throwing themselves

945
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,960
off of buildings at Neo. 
But it's so much better here. 

946
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,800
It is so much better done. 
Yeah. 

947
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,200
And then we've got the getting 
into the hospital after that. 

948
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,560
Yeah, well, he goes in the 
parking garage and calls his 

949
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,280
girlfriend one last time. 
Or he he, he doesn't call her. 

950
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,160
He leaves a like he records a 
message on his phone because he 

951
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,800
can't even get through. 
Good point. 

952
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Yes, he assumes the phone will 
be found, so he makes a voice 

953
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,440
memo. 
And then and I think and him 

954
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,920
getting in is entertaining. 
I think it's the first time we 

955
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,520
find can actually shoot a lock. 
Yeah. 

956
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:55,320
And then you have Jack Craiger 
over the intercom which was neat

957
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,880
to see where he cuz I've been 
waiting to see if he would show 

958
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,840
up somewhere. 
Was that his voice? 

959
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,040
Yeah Oh OK, cuz I was. 
I thought it sounded like him, 

960
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,680
but then I was like. 
But then we meet the scientist 

961
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,760
and it's not Craiger so I'm like
oh, but I guess it was one of 

962
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,080
the other scientists we didn't 
see or something yeah that's 

963
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,640
fun. 
I do I do have a bit of a bone 

964
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,440
to pick with his message because
like, I get this, I get the 

965
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,800
character arc of, you know, 
after everything he's been 

966
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,080
through, he he now realizes how 
good he had it. 

967
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,480
And he would be so lucky to have
a family. 

968
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,800
And hey, like, I was just scared
to adult, but I think he'd make 

969
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,960
a great mom and we should keep 
the child, right? 

970
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,240
But then I'm thinking like it 
didn't even occur to me till 

971
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,120
this morning. 
At this point in the story, he 

972
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,840
was has been directly told that 
this virus will spread 

973
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,000
throughout the whole planet 
very, very quickly. 

974
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,560
Wouldn't it be kinder to tell 
your girlfriend? 

975
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,480
Like, hey, I understand for your
survival, you're gonna have to 

976
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,840
do what you gotta do. 
Is she gonna be guilted into 

977
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,840
surviving the zombie apocalypse?
Pregnant Like that just seems, I

978
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,640
don't know. 
I don't know. 

979
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,160
And look, if I'm offending you, 
I'm not, I'm not saying like 

980
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,720
what life is worth. 
I am just saying that I wouldn't

981
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,560
want my last words to be putting
my wife into a potentially more 

982
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,760
dangerous apocalypse situation. 
Do you feel me at all, Mike? 

983
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,080
I think, I think he's trying to 
finish the conversation from 

984
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,120
earlier of he's not really 
putting anything in the context 

985
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,560
of what's going on and what that
entails per SE, because I think 

986
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:33,040
it's he's doing a very local 
level. 

987
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,600
I think that's but I think he's 
more trying to work through the 

988
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,920
thoughts he was going through 
earlier and it's him trying to 

989
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,720
close that of this is what was I
was thinking when we had that 

990
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:46,640
conversation rather than here's 
the new thing. 

991
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,280
Right. 
Yeah. 

992
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,440
It was his one last moment to 
just have like, a conversation 

993
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,760
that wasn't about zombies. 
Totally. 

994
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:01,040
See that elevator sequence. 
Decides to take the elevator 

995
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,440
instead of climbing 28 stories. 
Totally relatable. 

996
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,520
I feel like I love when he opens
the elevators, like I'm not 

997
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,520
going to die. 
Like you would say that to 

998
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,080
yourself. 
That's what you would tell 

999
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,080
yourself to be like. 
You know what, this is fine. 

1000
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,560
I'm going to take the shortcut. 
And then the the scenario of the

1001
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,840
zombie in the elevator shaft 
puking acid and melting the 

1002
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,360
elevator he's in. 
The first of all, I'm pretty 

1003
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,360
sure elevators would probably 
have some kind of safety 

1004
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,960
mechanism that would stop it if 
that much of the elevator, you 

1005
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,680
know what I mean. 
But suspend your disbelief for a

1006
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,080
second because it's a great 
little like a kind of QuickTime 

1007
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,240
event where he is clinging to 
the pieces of an essentially 

1008
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:47,080
fully evaporated elevator as the
zombie pukes acid on him from 

1009
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,480
above. 
And then from below, the amalgam

1010
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,840
monster is back and it's 
climbing up the shaft at him. 

1011
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,840
So he's going to be Jill 
sandwich between these two 

1012
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,200
monsters. 
And then he has like an action 

1013
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,000
hero moment where like he grabs 
onto an elevator cable, rides it

1014
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,640
up to the top and then grabs the
acid puking monster who now is 

1015
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,920
like scared of him because it's 
like only good at combat if it's

1016
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,440
above you. 
And he grabs the monster and he 

1017
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,840
makes it puke on the other 
monster. 

1018
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,720
And this is the one moment like 
I think I I like this movie, but

1019
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:21,680
this was the one moment I felt 
like it was a little too hokey. 

1020
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,800
It reminded me of like Bob 
Hoskins, like rocking the 

1021
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,440
goombas back and forth. 
There was something about that 

1022
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,000
puke monster being such a non 
threat up close that it kind of 

1023
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,440
took me out of it. 
Did you like the elevator 

1024
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,360
sequence? 
Not so much. 

1025
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,800
I mean I I guess your issue just
is really with video game movie 

1026
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,800
elevators. 
What do you mean? 

1027
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,760
That the Bob Hoskins thing is 
also in an elevator. 

1028
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,240
Oh my God, It is in an elevator.
Well, yeah. 

1029
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,360
Wow, good memory. 
Yeah, I guess I don't like video

1030
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,800
game elevators in movies or 
video game. 

1031
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:05,400
You get what I mean? 
The the, the way that he wards 

1032
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,800
off the amalgam with the puke is
kind of setting up how he's 

1033
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,200
going to eventually defeat it. 
So I also kind of saw that. 

1034
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,560
OK, ready to get into the lab? 
Still, let us. 

1035
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,960
OK, let's try. 
Let's talk into the intercom 

1036
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,280
here. 
Brian begins transforming as the

1037
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,320
researchers create the cure and 
call the National Guard. 

1038
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,920
Losing total control of his 
body, Brian finally mutates and 

1039
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,000
kills Carl and the other 
researchers while begging for 

1040
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,360
the cure. 
The last remaining researcher 

1041
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,320
attempts to inject Brian with 
the cure but fails and the 

1042
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,120
syringe falls to the ground 
below. 

1043
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Brian fully succumb to the virus
and heavily mutated roars as 

1044
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,520
several National Guard 
helicopters aim their spotlights

1045
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,320
at him. 
I love this part because at this

1046
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,480
point in the movie I was like, 
I've seen him escape a lot of 

1047
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,800
monsters. 
I've seen him use his video game

1048
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,160
skills to various degrees of 
effectiveness. 

1049
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,040
Although I will say the moment 
when he finally gets a shot and 

1050
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,360
it's what he needs to defeat the
monster cause like all the all 

1051
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,840
the zombie monsters fall onto 
the other monster right? 

1052
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,360
That was very satisfying. 
I was glad that they finally 

1053
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,280
ended the comedy of him never 
being able to hit a target, but 

1054
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,880
I was eager for this movie to 
have kind of one more trick up 

1055
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,240
its sleeve. 
And so I love the scenario where

1056
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,520
he has made it to safety and 
these scientists who are 

1057
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,720
supposed to save him don't give 
a fuck about him. 

1058
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,480
They keep saying, why is he 
still here? 

1059
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,000
Get rid of him. 
And like, he's clearly hurt. 

1060
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,120
They not all of them are busy. 
Like two or three scientists are

1061
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,600
actually doing stuff. 
And there's several people 

1062
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,080
standing around the background 
just watching who could be 

1063
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,200
helping Brian. 
And I thought like, OK, here's 

1064
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,920
the movie. 
Here's the movie making a 

1065
00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:00,280
statement about like the 
healthcare for profit complex of

1066
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,160
like, they don't care about the 
person who's sick right in front

1067
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,720
of them. 
And one of the scientists even 

1068
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,120
makes a comment about like, oh, 
man, I hope my mom's watching. 

1069
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,600
If I'm on the, if I'm on TV when
the National Guard shows up, my 

1070
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,280
mom's going to lose her shit or 
whatever. 

1071
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,920
And this is very evocative of 
Resident Evil Code Veronica. 

1072
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,960
There is a kind of meek 
character in that game who 

1073
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,840
becomes a very monstrous form 
that kind of looks like what 

1074
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Brian becomes. 
And I I like this twist of, you 

1075
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,960
know, you either die a hero or 
you see yourself or you live 

1076
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,800
long enough to see yourself 
become the tyrant. 

1077
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,200
But do you think of the the the 
final scene in this lab? 

1078
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,800
I mean, I do think an element of
it is closer to that They've 

1079
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,520
like, I feel like closer that 
there's question ways in there 

1080
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,960
because it's supposed to be the 
secure location more than 

1081
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,120
anything else. 
And like I think they have a 

1082
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,080
procedure that likely different 
people can do different parts 

1083
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,000
of. 
So I, I feel like a lot of the 

1084
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,120
well, they're waiting is they're
waiting because they've got to 

1085
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,400
do the next bit kind of stuff 
like, and they are scientists, 

1086
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,600
not, not doctors or what, not 
medical doctors. 

1087
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,960
So there's a bit like this 
happened to my wife a lot. 

1088
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,440
It's just like, can't you make 
me, Can't you fix this? 

1089
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,040
You're a doctor. 
I'm like, I don't, I don't know 

1090
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,040
how to. 
Do anything medical. 

1091
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,640
I can't bring people back from 
the dead shake. 

1092
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,000
I knew you'd side with the big 
brains. 

1093
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,280
Why don't even mention it? 
I but but even then, though, 

1094
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,960
great bits of comedy like at one
point, like Stanley is like 

1095
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,160
creating the cure and Brian is 
so close to death in the back. 

1096
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,280
He's like good, good job Stanley
like he's just can I can I get a

1097
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,240
little can I get a little hit of
that antidote? 

1098
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,160
And they're like, you know, And 
then his final form is he's 

1099
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,200
becoming an amalgam himself. 
The tendrils are coming out of 

1100
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,240
his body and grabbing scientists
after scientist until eventually

1101
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,520
they're just like, use a cure on
him. 

1102
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,680
Just prick him anywhere. 
OK, Now he gets the cure. 

1103
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:05,360
But then the gut punch of I, I, 
I thought I might my, my heart 

1104
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,560
actually broke a little bit 
because the camera lingers on 

1105
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,120
Brian's face for the last 
moment. 

1106
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,520
He's human and you can see his 
eyes turn from person to full 

1107
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:19,160
monster and it's like, oh man, 
he's gone and he's roaring and 

1108
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,520
they could go. 
It's so many fun directions with

1109
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,360
this franchise and I love the 
idea of the kickoff to this 

1110
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,880
reboot franchise is just this is
this random guy. 

1111
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,320
He's not some trained military 
thing. 

1112
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,000
He's not some hero of destiny. 
He's just a guy trying to earn a

1113
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,920
buck. 
And yeah, Craiger said he'll 

1114
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,160
never do another franchise film.
So I don't know. 

1115
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,160
You read? 
That fully understand why 

1116
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:55,440
though, because I think he or I 
think the reception that this 

1117
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,360
got is exactly or from a fan 
base was something that I think 

1118
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,520
he doesn't want to deal with. 
It's so stupid. 

1119
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,240
If, if you're if you're 
listening to this and you're a 

1120
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,160
Resident Evil fan, explain to me
how you were disappointed. 

1121
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,840
I bet you weren't. 
I bet you thought you were going

1122
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,640
to be. 
But I think this movie slaps. 

1123
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,680
I don't. 
Necessarily think that now with 

1124
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,280
the response, they may have 
changed their mind. 

1125
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,360
But like because he did draw the
parallel of his like he kind of 

1126
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,120
gets it because he's never 
bothered to see any of the 

1127
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,240
previous Resident Evil movies 
because they don't look like 

1128
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,160
what he thinks of as Resident 
Evil. 

1129
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,600
So I would not be surprised if 
there's plenty of the of that 

1130
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,520
part of the fan base that 
certainly not, you know, may 

1131
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,360
change because it's doing so 
well in terms of reviews. 

1132
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,320
But I would have. 
I would not expect them to 

1133
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,920
bother to see it. 
What were we talking about? 

1134
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,480
Yes. 
So I don't know how you do a 

1135
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,200
sequel to this movie without 
Zach Kreger. 

1136
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,400
I feel like this is a real 
lightning in a bottle kind of 

1137
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,360
energy he's captured. 
Well, and, and I think that's 

1138
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,520
the other thing is I think he, 
he had this story that he 

1139
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,760
presented them with. 
So I, I don't think he has a 

1140
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:18,000
bigger picture. 
So I think this isn't a, you can

1141
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160
use this as a springboard. 
You don't necessarily need him 

1142
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:25,360
in the sense of he doesn't have 
a vision for more of this. 

1143
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,480
It's just sort of refreshed A 
cinematic world you can work 

1144
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,760
with within. 
Yeah, yeah, but I mean, they're 

1145
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,040
gonna offer him a lot of money 
to do another one. 

1146
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,800
This has already made its money 
back and it's been in theaters 

1147
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,440
like 2 days. 
So I think this is gonna be a 

1148
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,240
monster hit. 
Get it? 

1149
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,960
And actually, it's making me 
nervous for Street Fighter. 

1150
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,480
We're gonna cover the Street 
Fighter movie after our finale. 

1151
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,560
And this was so good. 
I feel like the bar is really 

1152
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,480
high. 
And Street Fighter, by all 

1153
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,360
accounts, I mean, it's also not 
taking itself very seriously. 

1154
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,960
It's also gonna be very tongue 
in cheek. 

1155
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,360
But I don't know. 
They got they got some big, big 

1156
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,520
britches to fill here. 
So Mike, I think we've covered 

1157
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,680
the joy pros, the joy cons and 
every bit in between. 

1158
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,680
So it's time to declare Resident
Evil 2026 directed by Zach 

1159
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,720
Kreger. 
A Nintendo or a Nintendo don't. 

1160
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,480
What do you say? 
I think I definitely say 

1161
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,960
Nintendo. 
I don't think it required me to 

1162
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,000
know a lot about the franchise. 
There's bits where I'd see stuff

1163
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,600
like that's clearly a thing that
someone who knows this is going 

1164
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,280
to wreck it, recognize or tie a 
connection to. 

1165
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,800
And there's clearly bits that 
like even I recognize, and 

1166
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,600
there's bits of video game trope
alluded to, but I don't think 

1167
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,080
it's, it didn't feel like I was 
watching something. 

1168
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,560
I'm like, I have no idea what 
that's supposed to be. 

1169
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,120
Right. 
So like for me it was 4 out of 

1170
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,320
five stars. 
Nice, nice. 

1171
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,920
I I read a review saying that 
this is one of the smartest ways

1172
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:03,520
to adapt a video game movie 
because you are not compromising

1173
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:09,600
either the essence of the game 
or the essence of filmmaking by 

1174
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,040
just taking the setting and the 
premise and doing a wholly 

1175
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,560
original thing. 
You know, you can kind of get 

1176
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,240
the best of both worlds. 
So this wasn't intend do for me,

1177
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,960
but in talking to you about it 
and getting your take on some of

1178
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,000
these different scenes that kind
of gave me pause before I'm 

1179
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,720
going to upgrade it to a Super 
Nintendo. 

1180
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,240
I think. 
I think this is this is really 

1181
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,360
duking it out with Mortal Kombat
2 for favorite video game movie 

1182
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,400
for me. 
So strong strong recommend 

1183
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,880
Craigor if you're listening, you
hit it out of the park. 

1184
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,800
Thank you so much, Mike. 
I think we're going to call that

1185
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,440
game over for today. 
That concludes our final 

1186
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,960
verdict. 
Resident Evil movie a Nintendo. 

1187
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,440
Mike, I think this has been APS 
tier recording. 

1188
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,480
Everyone join us next get APS 
PlayStation. 

1189
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,840
Hey real quick, one more thing. 
I I was taken aback by this 

1190
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,480
being like a PlayStation movie 
studio because Resident Evil is 

1191
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,600
multi platform. 
Did that strike you as weird? 

1192
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,960
No. 
No. 

1193
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,080
Why not? 
Because it's Sony. 

1194
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:19,840
Yeah, I kind of just associate 
it as PlayStation because I 

1195
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,520
don't really pay it or like it's
not a thing I pay a friend to 

1196
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,000
pay attention to. 
So it kind of I didn't have a 

1197
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,080
reason to go wait a minute. 
OK, I mean, the first game was a

1198
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,960
PlayStation exclusive for, I 
think at least a year. 

1199
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,400
So yeah, it is widely thought of
as a PlayStation franchise. 

1200
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,600
I don't remember seeing Capcom 
mentioned anywhere. 

1201
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,040
I thought that was strange. 
But anyway, that's neither here 

1202
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,800
nor there. 
Everyone join us. 

1203
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,480
Next time, we'll be celebrating 
the end of Season 4 for real, 

1204
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,400
this time with our 16th bit 
retrospective season finale. 

1205
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,040
We'll have games, we'll have 
guests. 

1206
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,680
You won't want to miss it. 
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1207
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,400
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1208
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,360
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1209
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,960
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1210
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,400
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1211
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,880
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1212
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1213
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,720
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1214
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,480
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1215
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,120
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