Oct. 7, 2026

S4E16: 16th-bit Retro-Spective Season 4 Finale

It’s time to celebrate the end of our biggest season yet of The Old SwitchAroo with the 16th-bit Retro-spective Season 4 Finale as Mike and Jaymo reflect on their epic quest to research and review every retro game in the Nintendo Switch Online catalog!

In this episode, we start off with another edition of "Guest Hosts", this time with our guest Guest Host guest host Ryan warboss5 as he skippers the way through another head-to-head video game trivia competition with questions from many of the wonderful guests that we've had this season. In the Old Switcharoonies, Mike and Jaymo will award some of the more notable games that got played this season. They'll also look back at some of the memorable parts of this season, discuss what they're hoping to see next from Nintendo Classics and the Nintendo Switch Online service (they can't keep not releasing Cruis'n USA forever), and encourage everyone to join the community if you haven't already, and to share it with people that you think would enjoy this as well.

Thanks for listening, and a very special thanks to Kristal Fields of The Lazy Circles for our catchy new theme song! Subscribe to The Old SwitchAroo to get more retro goodness delivered straight to your feed! You can also join the fun on https://www.theoldswitcharoo.com⁠⁠⁠, where you'll find access to our Discord, voicemail, and so much more!

Game on, everyone.

(0:00) Intro

(1:50) Guess Hosts with Ryan "Warboss5"

(3:08) Q1. S04E01 - Derick from Underrated

(7:30) Q2. S04E02 - Lawson from Super Wall Jump

(9:34) Q3. S04E03 - Jordan from Arcadiology

(11:53) Q4. S04E03 - Brad from Arcadiology

(14:20) Q5. S04E05 - Cyril from DefunctGames

(20:28) Q6. S04E06 - Taylor from Wild Mouse podcast

(23:31) Q7. Screentime: Super Mario Galaxy - Lisa from Geek Pop

(25:20) Q8. LiteSwitch: Ep 1 Racer - Nick and Josh from Smashing Game Time

(27:19) Q9. S04E08 - Steve from CinemArcade, Ultra 64: Wii Universe, and Puppet Masters / Castle Freaks

(30:43) Q10. Screentime: Mortal Kombat 2 - Kyle from Stream Team

(32:23) Q11. S04E10 - BlazeingPhoenix

(37:56) Q12. S04E11 - Jennifer Miller Hammel, host of Classical California’s Arcade

(43:40) Q13. S04E12 - Timmy Williams from Whitest Kids U’ Know and Urn Fulla Popcorn

(47:08) Q14. S04E13 - SSJ3Butch

(49:11) Q15. S04E14 - Stiltskin from Shrugbuds

(54:16) Guest Hosts Final Scores

(54:49) Warboss5's plugs

(57:54) Title Speed Run

(59:23) The Old SwitchAroonies Award Show

(1:12:28) The Old SwitchAroo Swish List

(1:15:56) Final Thoughts on Season 4

(1:17:54) Outro


Check out all the places to find our participating guests below:

Derick on the Underrated movie podcast
And Derick's WonderCon panel with Jaymo on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXLHnn9__tA

Check out Lawson’s podcast Super Wall Jump

Check out Jordan and Brad on Arcadiology
And Brad is working on two games for Steam, Rogue Mate and Paint World 98

Find Cyril’s work at Defunct Games (http://www.defunctgames.com/) or on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@DefunctGames

Taylor’s theme park takes can be found on the Wild Mouse podcast
And tis the season to check out Taylor of Terror’s Grave Plot podcast

Hear more from Lisa in the Geek Pop archives at https://geekpoppodcast.wordpress.com/

Check out Nick and Josh over on Smashing Game Time and go check out Nick's comedy album Memoirs & Manifestos on BandCamp

To see Steve's podcast that inspired Jaymo, check out Ultra 64: Wii Universe, but Steve can also be found on CinemArcade at https://linktr.ee/cinemarcade and Puppet Masters / Castle Freaks at https://linktr.ee/puppetmasterscastlefreaks

Check out Kyle (often with Jaymo) on Stream Team

BlazeingPhoenix's speed runs and Behind the Mask can all be found at https://www.youtube.com/@Blazeingphoenix

Jennifer can be found on Classical California, and Arcade is streaming online at https://www.classicalcalifornia.org/arcade
You can also check her out on Have You Seen This? discussing the second X-Files movie

Check out Timmy's horror podcast Urn Fulla Popcorn and find WKUK's Mars in many places here: https://wkukmars.com/

Butch can be found on Twitch @ssj3butch

Find all of the Shrugbuds stuff starting at shrugbuds.com and on Twitch at @shrugbuds

Ryan "warboss5"'s old videos are on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/user/warboss5 and follow him at Bluesky @warboss5.bsky.social for when his other projects become available

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and 
girls, and that Technicolor 

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rainbow in between, Welcome to 
the old Switcheroos 16 bit 

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retrospective. 
My name is Ryan Warboss 5 Lay 

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and I will be your announcer for
the evening. 

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But without further ado, allow 
us to introduce your hosts. 

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Gaming Retro with Mike and Jamo.
I'm Mike. 

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And I'm Jamo today we're 
highlighting these superstars 

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and Nintend duds of all two 
games from the last 15 episodes 

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of the old Switch A Root 
podcast. 

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If you like what you hear, don't
forget to support a couple of 

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the teachers and they're off 
time by hitting that like or 

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subscribe button right now, 
please. 

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It means a lot, Mike. 
Season 4, literally our biggest 

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one ever whopping 22 episodes 
counting all the light switches.

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How does it feel to be at the 
end of this odyssey we've been 

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on for Season 4? 
Good. 

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It has definitely been a long 
season. 

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There's been a lot in there, so 
it's nice to have it end. 

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It's good to have closure. 
As Derek and I said in the 

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Silent Hill two episode. 
Well, we've had so many amazing 

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guests this season like this, 
from celebrity guests to 

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wonderful friends returning and 
new friends being made. 

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So thanks to those wonderful 
people. 

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We are excited to treat our 
listeners to return of one of 

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our most popular segments, Guest
Hosts, which is a trivia 

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showdown all about the Games 
from Season 4. 

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Mike's lovely wife Kat could not
join us this time around, but as

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you heard in the intro, Mike has
arranged a guest guest host, 

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guest host. 
Mike, you want to get our guest,

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guest host, guest host over 
here? 

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Yes, so we are glad to find 
another way to bring Ryan back 

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on to the show. 
People may remember that when he

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did a question, he already was 
in host mode, so it seemed a 

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natural fit to see if he'd be 
willing to come back and MC our 

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way through this. 
Thank you for being here, Ryan. 

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It's a pleasure to be back. 
I'm looking forward to the 

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evening. 
Some of the got got a whole host

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of wonderful questions down 
here. 

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Going to going to be very 
interesting to see what answers 

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you guys pick tonight. 
I'm so excited to have who won 

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last season, Mike, I think you 
did. 

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That feels right. 
I thought you won the last 

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season, but I won. 
I had won the first one season, 

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but I'm not sure. 
Let's call it a tie to make this

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extra interesting. 
So Ryan is going to run us 

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through the questions submitted 
by our lovely guests and Mike 

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and I will guess and we'll find 
out how we did. 

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Ready to roll? 
Ready, ready. 

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All right, let's do it. 
All right, so this first 

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question is coming from Episode 
1 of this season. 

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Hey, Mike and Jamo, it's Derek 
here from the Underrated Movie 

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Podcast. 
I talked about the best video 

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game of all time with you guys, 
The Legend of Zelda, Majora's 

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Mask. 
So I'm here to ask you a little 

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bit of trivia about that game. 
In Zora Hall. 

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When you enter, you can go into 
different rooms of the different

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band members of the Indiegogo's.
Each of them are playing a 

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different song from a past Zelda
game. 

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My question for you is which of 
these themes was not playing in 

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one of the band members rooms? 
Is it a the dungeon theme from 

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the original Legend of Zelda? 
Is it B the game over screen 

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from the same game? 
Is it C The Cave theme from the 

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Legend of Zelda a link to the 
Past? 

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Or is it D the Ballad of the 
Wind fish from Legend of Zelda 

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Links awakening? 
That is really fascinating and 

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wonderful. 
War boss five. 

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Who guesses first? 
Oh, that's a good question. 

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On all future questions, we'll 
go ahead and let whoever's in 

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the lead answer first, but for 
now I'm going to do a toss up. 

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I'm thinking of a number between
1:00 and 10:00. 

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Who wants to guess what it is 
closest gets to answers 2nd. 

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Oh OK, OK. 
I think it was 8. 

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I got a weird premonition. 
I'm going to go full on 8/7. 

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Lucky #7. 
Damn, off to a bad start. 

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So that means you're first, Jay.
I believe that it would be 

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totally odd. 
Wait, hold on. 

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Am I explaining my logic, Mike? 
It's up to you. 

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You know what? 
You don't usually change your 

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answers after I talk it out. 
You're usually a man of honor. 

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So I think it would be totally 
odd to have a Game Over theme B 

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ambient music in the background.
So I'm going to guess that that 

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one was not in Majora's Mask. 
So I believe that. 

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Was BI? 
Was going to guess the dungeon 

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theme A for this part of 
Majora's Mask that I believe I 

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never reached. 
OK, you might be right, because 

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it might be too recognizable to 
us to be distracting. 

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Uh Oh, no, I'm thinking my 
answer. 

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So Giapis plays a version of the
Dungeon theme on the bass in his

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room, Evan plays a version of 
the Game Over theme on the 

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guitar, and finally Tejo plays a
version of the Link to the Past 

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Cave theme on the drums. 
Which means, of course, by 

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process of elimination, the 
answer is D Ballad of the Wind 

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Fish. 
Of course there is a way for 

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Link and all of his virgins to 
play a song with that same name 

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later on in a place other than 
Zora Hall. 

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But that is a song that merely 
shares the same name with that 

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song. 
And it is more of a tribute 

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Allah Tenacious D than the 
actual song from Link's 

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awakening. 
Thank you once again guys for 

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letting me be on your amazing 
show. 

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Cannot wait till next year. 
Excited to listen back to this 

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and here. 
If I managed to stump either of 

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you guys till then, I'll see 
y'all later. 

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Well, good news Derek, you got 
us, you bastard. 

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It does make a certain amount of
sense that it would be Ballad of

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the Wind Fish. 
After all, the world is already 

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ending. 
You don't need to play a song 

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that also ends the world. 
Right, yeah, it'd be a hat on a 

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hat, wouldn't it? 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Darren Because that's the one 
bit where like they kept talking

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about like, I know that song and
apparently I don't. 

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What's so interesting because 
Derek was also on our Links 

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Awakening episode, and I thought
for sure he would have 

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mentioned. 
Well, I guess that's why he 

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didn't mention it because it 
wasn't a thing. 

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Yeah, I should have thought my 
way through that one. 

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Derek, I truly treasure the 
relationship that we have and 

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that our podcast have had. 
If you didn't catch it, he 

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fulfilled a dream of mine, got 
me on stage at Wondercon for how

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video game films get good panel 
or get good. 

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Excuse me. 
And yeah, many, many more 

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collabs to come. 
You're you're an Alzheimer. 

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All righty. 
Our next question is going to be

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from Episode 2, Chibi Robo. 
Hello, and this is Lawson from 

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Super Wall Jump, and I have a 
question for you about Chibi 

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Robo. 
There's a lot of toys in the 

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Sanderson household, but this 
one toy is the. 

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Favorite of the dad? 
Is it a kid? 

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Eggplant B Freaky Phil C Dina. 
D Drake, Red Crest or E Captain 

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Plankbeard. 
All good options, but I am going

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to go with Captain Red Crest. 
Captain Red Crest, the second to

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last one. 
Was that D or E? 

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Mike, That was D, right? 
That was D Drake red Crest. 

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There it is, Drake Red Crest. 
That's my answer. 

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That is also my answer, although
I would contend Shibi Robo 

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itself feels like a more apt 
answer. 

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Is that a toy though? 
I don't think Shibi Robo's a 

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toy. 
You wouldn't call a Roomba a 

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toy, and he's essentially a 
sentient. 

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Roomba. 
He also wouldn't give a Roomba 

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to a kid for their birthday. 
I would. 

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Is that bad? 
Probably Brian, what's the 

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answer? 
The answer? 

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Is. 
The answer to your listener is D

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Drake Redcrest. 
This Captain Falcon look alike 

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steals the show in whatever 
scene he's in, and he also stole

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the dad's heart. 
That's a point for you both. 

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You are currently tied at one 
point a piece. 

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You brought lost into our 
shores, right Mike? 

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Yes. 
It's a really love going on his 

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show. 
Talk about Nintendo Switch 

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Online in general is is funny 
how I you know, if you can't 

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tell by our wonderful game show 
announcer that we pulled out of 

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thin air. 
This is very rehearsed and a big

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production. 
And what I love, Lawson, is that

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on your show conversation came 
so easy and it was wonderful. 

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Just talk just just Gabin in 
general. 

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So I love that so much. 
All right, Ryan, you got another

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one. 
Yes, we actually have. 

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The next two questions will be 
from the Episode 3 Tecmo Bowl. 

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First one is a video. 
Ohh, sorry Mike and Jamo didn't 

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see you there. 
It's me, Jordan, the most 

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handsome and charismatic member 
of the Arcadiology podcast My 

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Championship Rings and I. 
Here. 

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We're just playing all the game 
with tech, mobile and the 

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arcade. 
And it got me thinking, we know 

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an awful lot about how Bo 
Jackson plays in the game, but 

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how much do we really know about
Bo Jackson himself? 

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So I got to ask you, what number
did Bo Jackson wear with the 

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Raiders? 
Was it A25B34 or C37? 

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I mean, that's distracting 
because he's so charismatic and 

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handsome. 
But Bo Jackson, I feel like I 

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saw a lot of pictures of this 
guy doing research for that 

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wonderful episode, so I'm going 
to get B34. 

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I felt like there was a 2 in his
number somewhere so I'm going 

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with 25. 
A Yeah, yeah. 

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All right. 
Let's see. 

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All right. 
And the correct answer is of 

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course B 34. 
Now watch this touchdown. 

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OK, well, almost at this point. 
Oh my gosh. 

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I am so excited after that one 
that we also have a Brad 

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question coming up next that is.
Yes, we do. 

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That is awesome. 
Oh my gosh, and thank you for 

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not mentioning how thoroughly 
you guys stomped us when we 

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competed in Tecmo right before 
recording. 

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So much fun arcadiology. 
Let's get the other one in here.

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Absolutely. 
And since Jamo, since you are in

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the lead, you will be answering 
first. 

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I mean, you have been up till 
now, but now it's official. 

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Yeah, well, I'm just glad I 
pulled ahead on a sports 

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question. 
That feels real good for the 

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number of times Mike's like, 
well, we all know you're not a 

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sports guy. 
Who's the sports guy now, Bucks?

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I've always been very clear I'm 
not a Pro Football person. 

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Clear. 
That is, That's true. 

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Hey, this is Brad from 
Arcadiology. 

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I join you guys with Jordan on 
the Tecmo Bowl episode. 

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I don't actually know anything 
about football, I just kind of 

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ended up there because of 
Jordan. 

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So I'm going to switch it up on 
you guys for this one, the old 

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switcheroo if you will. 
As you may remember from the 

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episode, I'm not really much of 
A sports guy, however, I'm more 

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into E sports. 
So we're going to throw a Halo 

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question at you. 
Keep you guessing here. 

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And competitive Halo 2, what was
the primary starting weapon used

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in MLG tournaments? 
The DMR, the battle rifle, the 

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SMG, or the assault rifle? 
I feel like knowing how 

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competitive Halo 2 ran and how 
much the battle rifle was a 

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staple, I almost feel like it's 
like starting paintball with 

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like your standard paintball 
rifle. 

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So I'm going to guess the battle
rifle which I believe was BI. 

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Don't have the slightest clue 
and assault rifle felt like a 

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solid guess that that's in most 
games so I'm going with the 

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assault rifle which was D. 
Huge mistake. 

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The correct answer is the battle
rifle. 

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Middle range precision weapon 
with a scope and a four shot 

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kill. 
The SMG was a standard starting 

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weapon. 
The assault rifle wasn't 

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introduced until Halo 3 and the 
DMR wasn't included until Halo 

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Reach though. 
Also a precision rifle. 

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Hope that didn't suck too bad, 
but bring it back around real 

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quick. 
I want to make a amendment to my

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statement on the Tecmo Bowl 
episode. 

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I ended up citing that the NES 
version was the better one. 

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However, I think that was a 
little bit skewed by playing 

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some multiplayer in the final 
hours with Jamo before 

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recording. 
The console version is the 

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better pick for multiplayer, but
I kind of think that the arcade 

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version is my favorite for 
single player. 

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Nice simple quick games you can 
hop into easily. 

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Makes for some quick fun. 
But anyway, thanks for another 

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season guys. 
I'm looking forward to see we 

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got for us next year. 
I love that he listens to the 

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episodes. 
You should all listen to the 

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episodes. 
That is so funny. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, you know, maybe we'll 

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hash it out next time you're on 
Brad. 

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But I I still stand by the NES 
being the better version. 

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You know that Arcade 1 is just 
too easy to get out of a tackle.

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Look at me talking football. 
Look at me pulling ahead on Mike

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even further. 
I like that he's like, oh, 

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assault rifle. 
Seems like he's in every game. 

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Immediately proved wrong. 
That's like how you define 

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assault rifle, right? 
Yeah, I mean, aren't most rifles

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used to assault in some way? 
Let's keep this going, Ryan. 

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All righty, so the next clip 
will require a slight 

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introduction. 
This is from Cyril from the 

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Telero Boxer episode 5. 
He doesn't give his name when he

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reads the question, so I figured
I'd give him an intro. 

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Hey guys, let me ask you a 
question. 

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Have you ever been in a Turkish 
prison? 

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No. 
Well, I have. 

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In fact, I'm in one right now, 
so I should probably keep it 

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down. 
You see, when I was rescued 

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after being stranded in the 
ocean for most of the year, 

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apparently I was tried and 
convicted for a crime that I 

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didn't even commit. 
The whole thing's a blur, 

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really. 
All I know is that I've been 

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locked in here without any food 
or water for months, but at 

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least I have Internet access. 
And this insanely long roll of 

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fruit by the foot guys, you got 
to see this thing. 

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It's more like fruit by the 
mile. 

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Anyway, the upside to all this 
time in solitary confinement is 

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that they gave me a chance to 
come up with a really good 

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Virtual Boy question. 
I hope that nobody else asked 

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you this. 
All right, here's the question. 

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Next Generation reviewed 11 
Virtual Boy games using their 

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five point scale. 
What is the average score of 

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those 11 Virtual Boy games 
closest to the nearest 10th? 

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Remember, they used A5 point 
scale, so don't get confused. 

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I want to know which of you 2 is
better at guessing averages. 

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So as Cyril mentioned, you will 
be guessing a number from zero 

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to five. 
It goes down to the tenths 

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place. 
So 3.62 point 8, all valid 

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selections. 
So Jamo, you are still in the 

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lead. 
So let's hear your number. 

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First winner is whoever gets 
closest. 

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I am not mad, I'm mad. 
I'm guessing math right now. 

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Both to be going up against 
Mike, but also because I was 

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laughing so hard during that 
that I got dizzy. 

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Like Oh my God, the fruit by the
vile thing might be the funniest

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joke we've ever had on this 
freaking show. 

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I don't know why that tickled me
so much, but focus Jamo focus I 

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I know Virtual Boy was not 
critically loved. 

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I have to assume that in 
addition to how much that thing 

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hurts to play to this day, it's 
also probably because the games 

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are not being well received. 
So I'm going to guess on the 

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lower half and I'm going to say 
average of 2.4 out of five. 

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I am going to go with what I 
wrote down before you reached a 

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number and I'm going to say 2.2.
OK, I like that he has to let 

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everyone know that I didn't sway
him. 

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You're not you're not prices 
writing $101.00 in him. 

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He also said prices right rules 
didn't apply, so that's 2.3 

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numbers tied. 
It is not 2.3, so we will have a

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winner here. 
Oh, boy. 

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Oh, hey there. 
Sorry, I'm, I'm a little out of 

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breath. 
I just broke out of that Turkish

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prison back there and I've been 
running ever since. 

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I don't suppose either of you 
know a guy who's really good at 

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removing tattoos because I've 
got this really big one on my 

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chest, the prison that I just 
escaped. 

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This thing is really big and 
shockingly elaborate. 

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I, I don't want to spend the 
rest of my life having to 

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explain why it's there. 
All right, I, I guess we should 

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just get on with it. 
Here's the answer to the 

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question that I asked. 
As I mentioned before, Next 

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Generation reviewed 11 Virtual 
Boy games. 

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That includes Mario Clash, 
Mario's Tennis, Telero Boxing, 

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Golf, Nestor's Funky Bowling, 
Panic Bomber, Red Alarm, Space 

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Pinball, Tetris 3D, and Vertical
Force. 

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Three of those games earned a 
three out of five, they gave 

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four of them a two out of five, 
and the rest got the lowest 

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score possible, a one out of 
five. 

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In the end, the average review 
score was 1.9 out of five. 

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Now, if both of you somehow said
1.9 and you need a tie breaker, 

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it's actually 1.91 out of five. 
Yeah, they didn't like the 

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Virtual Boy. 
Not at all. 

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Now, if you'll excuse me, I hear
wolves in the distance and the 

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only thing I've eaten in three 
months is Fruit by the Foot. 

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I say that if I can get myself 
out of this mess, we should do 

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another one of those podcasts. 
Maybe a game that next 

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generation even liked. 
Maybe. 

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All right, doodles. 
That was so good, I'm not even 

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mad that I lost. 
He's probably all right, right? 

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Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm relieved to 
see him back from the future or 

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the the last season finale we 
did. 

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Speaking of Odyssey, that's 
amazing, Cyril, you are one of 

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the most talented people I've 
ever met. 

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Like I I it means so much to me 
that you made that question. 

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And and to hear that you want to
come back. 

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Defunct games, one of the OG and
most well researched websites on

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the Internet, let alone video 
game websites. 

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Yeah, you got to check it out. 
That was amazing. 

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I want to know what the tattoo 
was I'm trying. 

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Is it a fruit by the foot 
tattoo? 

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Did he just get so enamored with
it? 

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Maybe one day we'll find out. 
Bowser looking over his 

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sunglasses on a surfboard. 
Yes, that's right. 

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00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,440
Yeah. 
And the notes are coming out. 

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The pot? 
Yeah, one of those. 

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00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,960
What's one of those two necked 
guitars? 

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00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,040
Yeah, 2 necked guitars. 
Yeah, that's it. 

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Well done, well done Mike Trevor
would be proud. 

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All right, so with that, Mike is
starting to come back. 

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Moved it to within a single 
point. 

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Jamo still in the lead as we 
move into our next question from

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Episode 6, Earthbound. 
Hey Mike and Jamo, it's Taylor 

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from Wild Mouse here, and I got 
a question for you about 

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Earthbound in the war against 
the Gigas. 

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Screen at the beginning with the
UFOs attacking the gas station. 

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There is a very specific guitar 
lick that plays. 

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That guitar like is credited to 
MD Seger. 

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The thing is, MD Seger is a 
pseudonym. 

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So my question for you is who is
MD Seger? 

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Now? 
Your choices are a Journey 

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00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,720
guitarist Neil Shawn B Super 
Mario Brothers creator Shigeru 

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Miyamoto, C Earthbound designer 
Akihiko Miyora, or. 

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D. 
Japanese guitar prodigy Hisato 

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Takanaka AKA Char. 
What do you think? 

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00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,800
I am blown away by that 
question. 

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00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040
That's some trivia because I 
researched these games pretty 

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thoroughly. 
So I I, I believe this this is 

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going to be weird, but just, I 
feel like somewhere in my 

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00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,680
research I remember seeing Char 
as a name. 

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So I'm going to go D the 
legendary Japanese guitarist the

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the person whose name was behind
the letter. 

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DI am going to go with B because
I have I was hoping to be like 

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maybe there's an anagram here or
something to know I. 

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00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,880
Just don't know why they would 
hide the name of the Mario 

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Maker. 
You'd think that like, the 

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company would want to put his 
name on it. 2 paychecks? 

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Let's see. 
So the answer is in fact B 

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Shigeru Miyamoto, who in 
addition to creating Super Mario

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Brothers, also created such 
acclaimed games as Donkey Kong, 

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The Legend of Zelda, and Star 
Fox. 

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Who knew? 
Well, you knew I didn't. 

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Mike has tied it up. 
Dang it, Mike, you are you. 

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00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,720
You're a wild mouse All Star 
now, aren't you? 

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00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,880
I don't know where that it feels
like a moving target on that. 

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00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,280
What's he been on three times 
then? 

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00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,480
Yes. 
Yeah. 

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00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,440
You've been on for the Blue 
Bayou restaurant. 

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00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,640
Blue Bayou for revolution and 
for. 

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00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,000
Halloween one, right? 
Wasn't it a Halloween event? 

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00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,120
It was a Halloween 1. 
I can't. 

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00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:54,280
I can't remember if it was knots
as a whole or we focused 

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00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,680
specifically on the hanging. 
It was, yeah, I know. 

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00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,800
I knew. 
You just talked about Halloween 

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00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,040
Hunt. 
You talked about the event. 

390
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,440
Yeah, so it's so not scary for 
him as a whole. 

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00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I love that podcast. 

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00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,440
And Derek and I went on to talk 
about the Mario ride and debate 

393
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,840
whether or not it was actually 
good. 

394
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,880
So be sure to check out Wild 
Mouse. 

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00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,360
That's that's it's, it's such a 
good podcast idea I'm mad I 

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00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,200
didn't think of it first. 
I love the old Switcher, don't 

397
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,720
get me wrong, but like if I had 
a side hustle it would totally 

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be theme park rides. 
What a fun show. 

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00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,400
And he's just back from a break,
too. 

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00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,880
That's right. 
That's right. 

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00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,840
And with a new guest host. 
All right, so since we are now 

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00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,080
tied up, we're gonna go ahead 
and let Mike answer first on 

403
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,880
this next one, which is our 
first question from a non main 

404
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320
episode. 
This is going to be from the 

405
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,600
screen time episode for the 
Super Mario Brothers movie, or 

406
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,280
Super Mario Galaxy movie I 
should say. 

407
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Hi, this is Lisa from Geek Pop. 
You might have last heard me on 

408
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,960
the Super Mario Galaxy movie 
episode. 

409
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,240
I have a question related to the
Super Mario Galaxy movie. 

410
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,040
In the Super Mario Galaxy movie,
there is a monkey that Mario and

411
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,200
his friends run into. 
This monkey manages to steal 

412
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,600
Mario's hat in a chase and sues.
Who is this monkey? 

413
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,000
A Kiki from A Link to the Past. 
BU. 

414
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:23,800
Kiki best known from Super Mario
64 C Both Kiki is a Yuki key. 

415
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,560
They are one in the same. 
That third question threw me for

416
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,960
a loop. 
I didn't got to shut up because 

417
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,320
you're guessing first, Mike, ha 
ha. 

418
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,200
I am going to guess B. 
Yeah, I don't. 

419
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200
I, I remember distinctly the 
trivia was that it's not the 

420
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,880
monkey from Zelda, and that in 
fact is a monkey from a 

421
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,120
different Mario game. 
But they're very similar. 

422
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,160
So I go B as well. 
That was my logic was I thought 

423
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,040
the fact was that's not a 
correct trivia thing that people

424
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,000
were saying. 
The answer is. 

425
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,640
B You Kiki. 
So a point for both of you bring

426
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,560
you both up to 4. 
So since we're still tied, is 

427
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,160
the onus of going first gonna 
bounce back and forth ping pong 

428
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,880
style? 
So that was my original idea, 

429
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,800
but then you just kept answering
first, so in the beginning. 

430
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,400
So I think it's only fair if 
Mike answers 1st again on this 

431
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,440
next one. 
Love it. 

432
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:25,040
Take that. 
All right, Next up is the first 

433
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,720
question from a bonus episode 
from the Star Wars Episode 1 Pod

434
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Racer game. 
Hey everybody, it's Nick and 

435
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,840
Josh from Smashing Game Time. 
That's right, you might Remember

436
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,440
Me from the Star Wars Episode 1 
Racer episode, which of course 

437
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,800
we played it on the Switch, but 
when it released it was readily 

438
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,880
available across multiple 
consoles. 

439
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760
With that being said, which 
console did not see its release?

440
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Is it a Dreamcast B Mac C 
Gameboy Color or D PlayStation? 

441
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,160
I know the answer, but I'm 
shutting up. 

442
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:11,760
This feels like a trick, but I'm
going to go with my best 

443
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,520
possible guess. 
Or I guess I'll be impressed if 

444
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,920
it had ended up on the Game Boy 
Color, which it may well have, 

445
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,400
but that feels like not the 
easiest of ports. 

446
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:25,680
Well, Mike, in my knowledge is 
Nintendo Power segment of that 

447
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,440
episode, I actually discussed 
how it did have a Game Boy Color

448
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,000
port. 
So I'm going to really flex my 

449
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,320
muscles and say it is definitely
D PlayStation. 

450
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,640
If you guessed the D 
PlayStation, you are correct. 

451
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480
Great job guys, great season. 
We can't wait for the next one. 

452
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,560
Amazing season, keep it up. 
You know my victories made all 

453
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,960
the sweeter by Nick being in 
there. 

454
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280
I I missed you this season, 
Nick, but that is such a fun 

455
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,760
episode. 
And Mike, just to be clear, like

456
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,200
it felt wrong doing a Star Wars 
episode without you. 

457
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,840
But pod racer was so good and we
you know, we were so excited to 

458
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,080
get Josh back on the show. 
And I love that I've now beaten 

459
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,880
you at the sports and Star Wars 
questions Like I I am the 

460
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,760
captain now, Mike, which I guess
means that you were the captain 

461
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,160
this whole time. 
You know, I don't want to be the

462
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,240
captain. 
You be the captain again. 

463
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Look at me, look at me. 
I don't want to be the captain. 

464
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,200
I got weird. 
Ryan, next question? 

465
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,920
Next question, we're going back 
to the regular episodes for a 

466
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,480
question from Episode 8, Quest 
for Camelot. 

467
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,400
Hey guys, congratulations on the
conclusion of yet another season

468
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720
of the old switcheroo. 
That's very exciting. 

469
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,760
My name is Steve Gunley. 
You might know me as the host of

470
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,760
Ultra 64, We Universe Cinema, 
Arcade, Puppet Masters, Castle 

471
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Freaks. 
I do a lot of podcasts and I was

472
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,080
very excited to get to join your
podcast to talk about the movie 

473
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,560
and game of Quest for Camelot, a
movie that obviously looms very 

474
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,000
large in all of our hearts. 
I think we walked away from that

475
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,560
episode with a real impression 
on the characters actor of Blade

476
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,280
Beak. 
Now, Blade Beak is voiced by an 

477
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,320
actor best known as a catch 
phrase delivery system on a 

478
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,800
popular sitcom. 
Now, I'm going to give you the 

479
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,200
catch phrase and I want you to 
tell me which catch phrase is 

480
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,960
ascribed to the actor who plays 
Blade Beak. 

481
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Is it #1A? 
Is it #2? 

482
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,280
Whoa. 
Is it #3 did I do that or is it 

483
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,720
#4 What you talking about, 
Willis? 

484
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,480
Oh, Steve, I love just hearing 
you. 

485
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,440
I could just listen to you 
rattle off TV catch phrases all 

486
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,880
day. 
But did I do that? 

487
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Which I think was C. 3. 
OK, number. 

488
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,960
OK, Mike. 
But did I do that? 

489
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,600
And I got a feeling Mike's gonna
agree with me. 

490
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Yes. 
And the answer is. 

491
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800
All right, time's up. 
I hope you had a chance to lock 

492
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,360
in your answers because the 
answer, of course, is C Did I do

493
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,640
that? 
Of course. 

494
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880
The character of Urkel, played 
by the immortal Julia White, 

495
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,280
also known as Sonic the 
Hedgehog. 

496
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,360
And for the purposes of this 
show, Blade Beak. 

497
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Thanks so much for the show, 
guys. 

498
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640
Congratulations again. 
Let's do it again sometime. 

499
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,040
No, Steve first in my heart 
there. 

500
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240
There would be no switcheroo 
without him. 

501
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080
It was his podcast that made me 
want to do podcasting. 

502
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,760
So it was a real they say you 
shouldn't meet your heroes, but 

503
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,040
you know, I'm being weird. 
This is too much now. 

504
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,640
You know, it's not you're that 
wonderful, Steve. 

505
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,920
You're just you're just so 
great. 

506
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560
So you got to check out Cinema 
Arcade. 

507
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360
And you know, I mean, he like he
said, he does a lot of podcasts,

508
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,720
but that feels like the best 
recommend for our audience 

509
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:49,160
because it is a show about the 
games that are based on movies 

510
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160
and it is so much fun. 
Definitely, definitely check it 

511
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400
out. 
And also, back when you guys 

512
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,240
were doing Ultra 64 and we 
universe, you guys reading my 

513
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480
letters really helped me through
kind of a rough time. 

514
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,440
I had a period of loneliness in 
my life. 

515
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,440
And so each week when you guys 
would read my e-mail, I felt a 

516
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,200
little more connected. 
So you don't you don't know the 

517
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,160
good you're doing in the world, 
but it's a lot. 

518
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800
Thank you so much, Ryan. 
I made it weird. 

519
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,320
I got too savvy. 
Ryan, give us the next question.

520
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200
I don't know, I feel like I 
should let this moment linger 

521
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,760
just a little longer. 
Yeah, just really, really soak. 

522
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,840
In just marinate it. 
Just imagine that all of that is

523
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,920
incomprehensible to read text 
sitting on the screen for a 

524
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,680
while. 
Is the quest for Camelot Mike? 

525
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Kind of want to give him a bonus
point for the joke. 

526
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,840
That was pretty good. 
So our next one is another 

527
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,960
screen time question, this one 
for Mortal Kombat 2 and another 

528
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000
video. 
Hey Kyle here from the Mortal 

529
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Kombat 2 episode. 
Just a quick question. 

530
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Ed Boone, who was the Co creator
of the Mortal Kombat franchise, 

531
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,000
has a cameo in the movie. 
Who did he play? 

532
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:08,160
A a villager, BA bartender, CA 
Johnny Cage, movie fan or DA 

533
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,680
commentator. 
He was definitely a boon tender,

534
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,280
so I believe that was B. 
Yes, he was the bartender. 

535
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760
That's such a good cameo. 
Let's see how you did. 

536
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,360
The answer is BA bartender 
talking to Johnny Cage in a bar.

537
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,640
Hope you did well. 
Oh Kyle from the Cats mafia 

538
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,880
group chat. 
I love seeing movies with you. 

539
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Broke my heart when you refused 
to see Resident Evil with me. 

540
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480
But you know what though? 
I, I, I had a great time with 

541
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,400
Derek. 
So you're lost. 

542
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,440
He does this great question and 
I immediately just start guilt 

543
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280
tripping him. 
No, I'm just slandering his 

544
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,840
name. 
If you are big into film, Kyle 

545
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,640
hosts a monthly live stream 
discussion. 

546
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
The most recent one was Big 
Lebowski. 

547
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,400
Jackie and I are on there pretty
much every month and live stream

548
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,720
means anyone of you guys can 
join and just jump on. 

549
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,000
It's kind of like a podcast 
happening in real time. 

550
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,960
But yeah, the Mighty Network 
stream team is the social and 

551
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,600
we'll throw a link in there 
there's. 

552
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Going to be so many links in 
this show notes. 

553
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,840
Oh, it's. 
Going to be beautiful 

554
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Cornucopia. 
I can help with that if you want

555
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,240
me. 
To all righty next questions 

556
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,920
coming from episode 10 Donkey 
Kong. 

557
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,720
What's up everyone, I'm Blazing 
Phoenix, speedrunner of the 

558
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,360
visual and blindfolded kind. 
I was on Episode 10 for Season 4

559
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600
to talk with you all about 
Donkey Kong for the NES and for 

560
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320
the Game Boy. 
I had a lot of fun speaking with

561
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,200
you guys about those two games, 
with one game that I was 

562
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,080
uniquely familiar with and the 
other being a surprisingly great

563
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,920
game for Game Boy, Game that 
I've never heard of before this 

564
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,480
year. 
Real quick, I'd like to say I 

565
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,160
did go back and Nintendid beat 
DK for the Game Boy. 

566
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Since I was invited on from my 
blindfolded Donkey Kong NES 

567
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,120
video, I'll keep my question 
related to that game, so here it

568
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,000
is. 
Due to hardware memory limits, 

569
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,480
one of the four stages from the 
arcade version of Donkey Kong 

570
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,440
was omitted when porting to the 
NES version. 

571
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Which stage did not make it to 
the NES version? 

572
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Was it a 25 meters, B 50 meters,
D 75 meters, or E 100 meters? 

573
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Oh and bonus question, what is 
my history with the hammer music

574
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,560
that plays when picking up the 
hammer? 

575
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,360
Well, I believe the cement 
factory was the third level, so 

576
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,760
I'm going to guess that is the 
third increment of 25 meters. 

577
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,760
So I'm going to guess the 75 
meter is the one that was cut. 

578
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,560
And for the bonus point, how do 
you want to do the bonus point, 

579
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Mike? 
Should I just go and see if you 

580
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,760
agree? 
You can just go. 

581
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,679
I I am grasping at straws at the
moment of that one because I'm 

582
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:18,120
not remembering. 
Well, Blaze is the only person 

583
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000
in recorded history. 
I think I can say that because 

584
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,360
we can't find any other record 
of anyone else doing it to beat 

585
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,679
the original Donkey Kong on NES 
blindfolded. 

586
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,639
So I have to assume his history 
with that is listening to it as 

587
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,320
an audio cue practicing his 
blindfold speed run. 

588
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,920
That's my guess. 
He said. 

589
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,280
What's my history with the 
mallet music? 

590
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,480
I would assume that's that. 
Actually things are coming to 

591
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,880
me. 
OK so I'm I'm going to go with 

592
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,520
my after you explained the logic
to it made my logic seem bad. 

593
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,280
I was just guessing the 100M 
just like it's just like the 

594
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,920
last or 100 photo ever, like 
that's the last one. 

595
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,200
Which is not necessarily a great
logic and I probably should have

596
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,680
picked a middle bit. 
Unless you're right though and 

597
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,480
it just all dropped down. 
Yeah. 

598
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,360
So you could be right I. 
Feel like his was actually 

599
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,120
knowing it from Smash Brothers 
1st and then playing Donkey Kong

600
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,520
and realizing he it was stuff he
already knew from Smash 

601
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,240
brothers. 
I think you just got 2 points 

602
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:24,760
and I got zero. 
I'm nervous. 

603
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,320
The answer is B50 meters, which 
was the Pi or cement factory 

604
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,520
level. 
And if you are wondering why I 

605
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,920
skipped a letter, it was because
I could not see a little 

606
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920
blindfolded humor. 
For the bonus question, my 

607
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,640
history with the hammer music is
this. 

608
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,200
I grew up associating the music 
with the hammer to Super Smash 

609
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Brothers and then later I heard 
the music when playing DK for 

610
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,560
the first time later in my life.
Congrats on season 4. 

611
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,360
I have enjoyed listening to 
every season 4 episode and 

612
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,680
listening to many other episodes
from before season 4 and I 

613
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,480
cannot wait to listen to every 
episode you release for season 

614
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,200
season 5. 
Have a great day. 

615
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,440
You too, and good luck to anyone
that needs it. 

616
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,480
Good luck to anyone that needs 
it. 

617
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,720
Where's the live by Blaze Mike? 
This this. 

618
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,680
So I'm finally not exaggerating.
Not only is Blaze an incredibly 

619
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,960
talented speedrunner, he when he
came on our episode, had never 

620
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,080
been on a podcast before. 
And now he has a podcast like 

621
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,720
that's that's our baby, That's 
our he's all grown up. 

622
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,960
And I don't mean that kind of 
send me. 

623
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,320
I mean to say I'm like super 
proud of you. 

624
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,080
And he is bagged a guest that is
huge. 

625
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,200
He interviewed summoning 
freaking salt. 

626
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,920
That should have been you, Mike.
I may have written down games 

627
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040
that someone and salt talked 
about that are on Nintendo 

628
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,120
Switch that we haven't covered 
specifically with the angle. 

629
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Yeah, hey, you know, you know, 
Blaze, but my I'm so proud of 

630
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,640
you, dude. 
You work so hard at everything, 

631
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,720
at being a dad, hard at your job
and your speed runs and your 

632
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,040
podcast. 
Like it's just you're just, 

633
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,960
you're a rare breed. 
I believe he also sent us videos

634
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,040
with no visuals which is kind of
amazing. 

635
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,080
Yeah, look at that MP4. 
But it was just sound, yeah. 

636
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Well, it did have a visual. 
A visual was blackness a black 

637
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,520
screen. 
Yeah, he's right. 

638
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,520
It just it works on so many 
levels. 

639
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,200
Wow cuz he's blindfolded? 
Yeah, amazing. 

640
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,240
I wonder what he was really 
seeing. 

641
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,560
I like that, but we both whiffed
on the main part of the 

642
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,880
question. 
But I at least pulled off the 

643
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,400
bonus, so that's something. 
So I think I'm still 1 ahead. 

644
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Actually, you are tied up again.
So it's Mike's turn. 

645
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,480
Yep, it is Mike's turn to go 
First. 

646
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,840
We have 4 questions remaining. 
Next question is from Episode 

647
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,360
11, Tetris. 
Hey, Maya, KJ MO. 

648
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,480
It's Jennifer Miller Himmel from
Classical California's Arcade. 

649
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080
And I'm here with a question 
about Tetris. 

650
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,360
It's music more specifically, so
the beloved melody we know as 

651
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,000
the Tetris theme is really a 
Russian folk song called 

652
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Korobainiki, and Nintendo 
decided the melody perfectly fit

653
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,440
the Russian Soviet aesthetic of 
the game. 

654
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,680
But what is the original folk 
song about? 

655
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,240
Is it a a young boy going to 
market to sell his family's 

656
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:39,520
Milky white cow? 
BA traveling peddler who is 

657
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,680
flirting with a young girl and 
hoping to exchange goods with 

658
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,040
her CA sad clown who realizes 
his ladylove is cheating on him 

659
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,520
but the show must go on. 
Or DA group of dancers who are 

660
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,080
sent to a farm collective to 
entertain the workers. 

661
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,600
I feel like if I knew my 
classical music better, I would 

662
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040
know what all four of those were
talking about. 

663
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,200
Yeah, they were real references.
I recognize the sad clown one. 

664
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Yeah, this one is B. 
Yeah, it's definitely B. 

665
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,920
OK, so it is not A because 
that's one of the plots of Into 

666
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,440
the Woods. 
It's not C because that's 

667
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,360
Pagliacci, and it's not D 
because that's Shostakovich's 

668
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,560
ballet The Limpid Stream. 
So yes, the answer is BA 

669
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,000
traveling peddler who's flirting
with a young girl now, Cordoba 

670
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,440
Nikki was based on a poem by 
Nikolai Nekrasov and was a 

671
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,600
thinly veiled metaphor for 
exchanging sexual favors. 

672
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,680
Well, it appeared in musical 
form around 1898 and would of 

673
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,960
course become the Type A music 
for the 1989 Game Boy version of

674
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Tetris thanks to Hero Cause or 
Tanaka. 

675
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,360
But Tetris creator Alexi 
Pajitonov often gets credit for 

676
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,080
the association, as the melody 
also appeared in early Mac and 

677
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,840
Apple two GS ports of the game. 
All right, later my friends, I 

678
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:16,280
need to go do some more lines. 
Actually, she knows how that 

679
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,880
sounded. 
She knows what she's doing. 

680
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Yeah, I had thought that the 
first one sounded like Into the 

681
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,640
Woods, but I figured there's got
to be like an opera version of 

682
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,080
that. 
I didn't know musicals were on 

683
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,080
the table. 
Yeah, yeah. 

684
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Jennifer's episode on Tetris is 
our first short to breach half a

685
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,240
million views, and she made it 
so very special. 

686
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,480
Mike, can I throw it to you to 
promote her radio show? 

687
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,400
Because that's you. 
You. 

688
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,360
You found her for us, and we're 
so much richer for it. 

689
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,640
Yeah, so connections by way of a
of the have you seen this 

690
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,320
podcast, which is a movie 
podcast that I listen to and 

691
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,640
that she plays tabletop with one
of the hosts. 

692
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,000
And So what made her such a 
great fit for this is part of 

693
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,280
what she does with Classical 
California is Arcade, which is 

694
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,680
both video game music and music 
that's inspired video games. 

695
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,320
And that whole area of treating 
video game music like proper 

696
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,160
music, like it deserves to be 
treated. 

697
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,760
And it made for such one of my 
favorite episodes because 

698
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,160
everybody has talked about 
Tetris. 

699
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,760
Not everybody has talked about 
Tetris with sort of the depth 

700
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,960
into the music that we went. 
Yeah, yeah. 

701
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,040
I couldn't have done that 
without her. 

702
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Ryan, you strike me as a guy who
listens to like, like 

703
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,720
orchestrated soundtracks and 
things. 

704
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,680
Are you a music without lyrics 
kind of guy? 

705
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,960
Oh, I love it when I'm working. 
Like if I'm sitting there and 

706
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,240
I'm writing up an article or I'm
working on, you know, just 

707
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,000
something that doesn't require 
me to interact directly with 

708
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400
someone. 
I always have classical music 

709
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,560
playing from the Pandora on my 
TV. 

710
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,680
Oh, is it actual classical? 
You go classical. 

711
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,960
It's some of it's classical, but
I also have like the Jurassic 

712
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Park theme is in there somewhere
and a Skyrim, the Skyrim theme 

713
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,520
plays every now and then. 
It's a good station. 

714
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,680
I I I enjoy the variety. 
Yeah, Excellent, excellent. 

715
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,080
One of my first CDs was Holsts 
the planets there you. 

716
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,200
Go yeah, that's I think Mars 
pops up on my on mine every now 

717
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,680
and then. 
Mars and Jupiter are the big 

718
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,440
ones. 
I mean, Jupiters are one of the 

719
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,200
big ones anyway, but. 
The sun is the biggest one, OK? 

720
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Actually, fun thing about that, 
if we've got a moment, when I 

721
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,240
was a kid, one of my favorite 
games in the world was The Curse

722
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,080
of Monkey Island, the original 
adventure game. 

723
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,760
And if you bought it on C or 
not, Curse, I'm sorry, escaped. 

724
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,800
My God, I can never remember 
which is which because there are

725
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,720
four games and they all have 
just slight variations on the 

726
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,640
name. 
Yeah, there's like curse. 

727
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,240
Beneath the Monkey Island. 
Yeah, but the first game, if you

728
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:03,760
bought the first game on DVD 
when it was released, re 

729
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,760
released by Lucasart. 
So you didn't need a stack of 

730
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,600
floppies. 
If you put the DVD or the CD 

731
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,680
into your CD player, the first 
track will destroy your speakers

732
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,480
because it's literally all the 
data for the game. 

733
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,200
But tracks 2 through 12 was the 
game soundtrack. 

734
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,480
And so I actually would like sit
in my car listening to like the 

735
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,800
bar room theme from Monkey 
Island. 

736
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,880
And it was formative, I'm sure. 
Oh, oh, very much so. 

737
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Very much so. 
Man, that's a series that needs 

738
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,040
to be looked at again. 
I love it so much. 

739
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,760
Huge monkey island fan, love 
monkey island. 

740
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,440
Big time. 
All right, so moving on to the 

741
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,240
next question, we got Episode 
12, Ninja Gaiden. 

742
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Timmy Williams here from the 
animated movie The Whitest Kids 

743
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,440
You Knows Mars. 
That was hard to say. 

744
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,240
And also the horror movie 
podcast earned full of popcorn. 

745
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,200
So you guys made me play more 
ninja games for my second 

746
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:08,360
episode and one of those was 
Ninja Gaiden 2. 

747
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,160
So here's my question. 
Why did you make no? 

748
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,960
Here's my question. 
Like its predecessor, 1990s, 

749
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,120
Ninja Gaiden 2 had to use a 
different title in Europe, since

750
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560
the word ninja translates to 
assassin. 

751
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,200
And as we all know, the best way
to prevent violence is to 

752
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,440
pretend that it doesn't exist. 
So instead it's called Shadow 

753
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,040
Warriors 2. 
And according to the box, what 

754
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,640
is the subtitle of Shadow 
Warriors 2? 

755
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Is it a the Dark Sword of Chaos?
Excuse me, is it a the? 

756
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Dark Sword of Chaos. 
B The Demon's Tooth, C The Lame 

757
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,320
Sword of Censorship, or D Ninja 
Gaiden 2. 

758
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Am I going first? 
I think it is. 

759
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, it is. 

760
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Definitely D because I remember 
he crashed out about it. 

761
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:16,000
OK, so I think I was going with 
probably they couldn't use ninja

762
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,720
in the title, but it's in the 
subtitle. 

763
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,160
OK, I was my guess is a which 
apparently is. 

764
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,200
It is incorrect, but that's what
it is. 

765
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,880
The correct answer is D Ninja 
Gaiden 2, which is confusing. 

766
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,280
Anyways, congratulations on 
wrapping up season 4 and please 

767
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,600
have me back sometime. 
But if you make me play a sequel

768
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,640
to either Ninja Gaiden or Super 
Ninja Man or whatever, I'll not 

769
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:51,280
come. 
Oh my gosh, that is so freaking 

770
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,240
funny. 
And you know, Jimmy, I don't 

771
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:57,760
know if Mike passed this message
along to you, but right after we

772
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,560
recorded I, I finished Mars and 
that movie made me laugh so hard

773
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,960
I struggled to breathe. 
If you have not checked it out, 

774
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,000
you know, hop online by it. 
It is it's, it's such a funny 

775
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,000
animated comedy. 
And then if you are a Whitest 

776
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,120
kids fan, it is a cherry on top 
of their career and their 

777
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,760
collective works. 
It's so, so good. 

778
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,760
And earn full of popcorn. 
Such a fun show, Timmy. 

779
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,360
Mike, I'll let you gush about 
Timmy because you've you've 

780
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,280
taken someone who we have always
idolized and looked up to for 

781
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,240
their comedy like a celebrity 
status and I feel like you've 

782
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,680
turned them into a friend. 
Well done. 

783
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,080
Yeah, no, it is. 
It has been an absolute blast to

784
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:48,760
have Timmy on as now basically a
recurring character to this 

785
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,120
podcast, which is absolutely 
wonderful for us. 

786
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,080
And isn't he a darn good sport 
for coming back? 

787
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,600
Yeah, I'm sorry I made you play 
Super Ninja Boy. 

788
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,600
I didn't know. 
I didn't know. 

789
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,480
All right, with two questions 
left, Jamo has pulled ahead by 

790
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,520
only a single point. 
Let's see if you can hold on to 

791
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,240
that lead as we move to Episode 
13, Killer Instinct. 

792
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,720
Hey Mike and Jamo, it's Butch. 
I recorded the Killer Instinct 

793
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,360
episode with you guys, so I'm 
here to ask you a question about

794
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,600
that and this is going to see 
how well you guys paid attention

795
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,120
to the beginning of the fights. 
When the characters are 

796
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,000
introduced, there is a phrase 
that is said before you actually

797
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,080
get into the fight. 
What is the phrase that's said? 

798
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:50,840
Is it A let's begin B fight on C
Get ready, or D let's rock it? 

799
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,400
It is most definitely. 
Fight on. 

800
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,440
So that was C, right? 
I thought that was B. 

801
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,440
OK, well fight on's my answer. 
I know what you're going to try 

802
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,200
to. 
Do Mike B is my answer. 

803
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,680
I wrote down B as this went. 
OK. 

804
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,400
The answer that I was looking 
for was B fight on. 

805
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,120
I just wanted to say thanks for 
having me on again you guys. 

806
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,640
And I always look forward to 
watching your guys's episode and

807
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,080
I look forward to possibly being
a part of it again. 

808
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,880
Please keep being who you guys 
are and keep kicking it in the 

809
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,720
ass. 
I'll see you guys next time. 

810
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,320
Amazing, Butch. 
You know you also didn't give 

811
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,960
yourself credit for being the 
progenitor of our Pokémon 30th 

812
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,640
anniversary episode. 
That was some of our best 

813
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,840
content, some of the most 
popular content, and I always 

814
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,520
appreciate you being so active 
in the comments, so supportive 

815
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,680
emotionally. 
You're a good friend and I also 

816
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,560
look forward to us working 
together in the future. 

817
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,920
All righty. 
Final question. 

818
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,760
As of right now, we stand with 
JMO with 10 points and Mike with

819
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,120
9. 
So Mike, you have a chance to 

820
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,400
tie it up here, and I do have a 
tiebreaker question on the off 

821
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,560
chance you end up tying it up 
here. 

822
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,080
So let's get on to the last one,
which is also our final video 

823
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:16,440
question from Episode 14, Fire 
Emblem Path of Radiance. 

824
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Mike Jamo, it is I Stiltskin, 
your former guest, the person 

825
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,680
you played Fire Emblem Path of 
Radiance with. 

826
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,360
I'm here in the world of Fire 
Emblem. 

827
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,160
We're about to go into battle. 
As you can see behind me, we're 

828
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,360
all very excited to kill people 
on the opposing team. 

829
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,120
But take turns, you know, we're 
very polite. 

830
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:47,720
We do a little attack and then 
we wait to take our damage, and 

831
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:49,360
then we take our turn and they 
wait. 

832
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,720
So, you know, it's a very civil 
war, so to speak, in terms of 

833
00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:00,600
manners, not necessarily civil. 
Anyway, what am I talking about?

834
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,160
I'm here to give you. 
A. 

835
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Trivia question from Fire Emblem
Path of Radiance. 

836
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,560
And so here is my question for 
you. 

837
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,440
Which of the following is not a 
playable character in Fire 

838
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Emblem Path of Radiance? 
OK, get ready for this. 

839
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:20,400
Which of these characters is not
playable? 

840
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,280
All right. 
Is it a shin on? 

841
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Is it B drill? 
Is it C har is or is it D 

842
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,520
terroneo? 
Tarot terroneo? 

843
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,360
I think that's how you say that.
Anyway, I'm going to go fight 

844
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,000
this battle and when I get back 
I'll give you the answer, but 

845
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
I'm going to leave it to you. 
Which is it? 

846
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:58,120
Chinon Grill Har or Terroneo, 
which is not a playable 

847
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,040
character in Fire Emblem. 
Path of Radiance. 

848
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:08,360
I'll be right back. 
So this is tough. 

849
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,960
I think that in preparing for 
the episode, I did like a whole 

850
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,400
like dating game and I don't 
remember seeing Terroneo. 

851
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,240
I have a feeling that Terroneo 
is from a different game in the 

852
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,000
series, so I'm going to give D 
to Romeo. 

853
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,400
D is what I have written down 
and I was hoping you would guess

854
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,440
different so I could at least 
believe I had a shot still, but 

855
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,280
D is what I think it is. 
Now strategically, you shouldn't

856
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,040
leave it at that because I'm 
ahead. 

857
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,240
So if we tie again, I win. 
But why? 

858
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:52,480
Not because I picked my answer 
before yours. 

859
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,160
It should be independent. 
OK. 

860
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,920
Are you sure? 
I don't know. 

861
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,640
I think it'd be more interesting
if you, yeah, you get the, you 

862
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,360
get the inputs. 
The last question, your last 

863
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,160
chance to tie it up. 
Better for content? 

864
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,520
Come on, gain the system all 
right. 

865
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,240
See. 
If you get this, I'm going to be

866
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:17,000
so bad. 
Hey Mike and Jamo, I'm back with

867
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,240
the answer here. 
I got separated from the Army I 

868
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:21,920
was with. 
I don't know where they went. 

869
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,120
I'm kind of lost right now, but 
there's like a temple thing over

870
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,400
there. 
I'm going to check out here in a

871
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,520
second. 
Not sure where everybody went, 

872
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,840
but my question was which of the
following 4 characters is not a 

873
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,640
playable character in Fire 
Emblem Path of Radiance? 

874
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,320
And the answer was Grill. 
He's not. 

875
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,040
He's not a playable character. 
You can't tell real what to do. 

876
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,440
He's Ike's dad, Ike, the 
protagonist. 

877
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,520
You can't tell your dad what to 
do against the rules. 

878
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,680
So yes, if you picked B Grill, 
you're right, that was that's 

879
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,160
not a playable character. 
So yes, thanks for having me on 

880
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,120
the show was a ton of fun. 
I'm going to try to find my way 

881
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,800
through this mystical land I'm 
stuck in. 

882
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:16,120
And don't do drugs, kids. 
Happy made a video. 

883
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,200
Oh my gosh, Stiltskin, you don't
know this, but you know, we're 

884
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,760
trying to do this in as few 
takes as possible. 

885
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,080
So while that's going, Mike and 
I have to stifle laughter. 

886
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,680
And I can see us both on the 
Zoom, like, choking and laughing

887
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:35,360
so hard. 
Mike Stiltskin's another low 

888
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,840
baca discovery. 
You want to talk about his show?

889
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,840
Yeah, his show is airing right 
now on Twitch. 

890
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,360
Well, right now as we record, 
they're on a lot. 

891
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,600
They may be on while you're 
listening to a lot of movie 

892
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,520
watching primarily sort of watch
along stuff, YouTube cartoons. 

893
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:56,120
He's definitely the first 
mythical creature that we've had

894
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,440
on. 
So that that was groundbreaking.

895
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,120
Yeah, I love that Stiltskin. 
You got it. 

896
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,560
You got to bring your two foot 
five ass back here one day. 

897
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,480
I don't know how tall you are, 
but I feel like that's a pretty 

898
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,920
decent estimate. 
You know what? 

899
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,840
Come back on the show and 
correct me if I'm wrong. 

900
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,440
And most importantly, thank you 
for not letting Mike pull into 

901
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,280
the lead. 
Right, Ryan? 

902
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,840
I think we're settled here. 
And the final point total after 

903
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:26,000
15 questions and one bonus 
question is Mike with 9 points 

904
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,520
and Jamo with 10. 
Congratulations Jamo on your 

905
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,880
victory. 
Thank you, Ryan Warbus 5. 

906
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,720
It feels good. 
I I know I've known this whole 

907
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:39,320
time. 
I've been secretly smarter than 

908
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,840
Mike, and I know the evidence 
does not usually weigh in my 

909
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,640
favor, but this, this felt good.
This was Mike. 

910
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,240
This was our closest match yet. 
I think that was that was down 

911
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,080
to the wire. 
And Ryan, you know, those of you

912
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,880
listening might not know he did 
a lot of prep for this. 

913
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,880
He the picture, the handsome 
game show announcer that he 

914
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,360
sounds like. 
That's what he's dressed as, 

915
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,440
like he, he just crushed it for 
us tonight. 

916
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,440
Ryan, it means so much. 
Why don't you let our listeners 

917
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,720
know where they can find your 
stuff? 

918
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:12,520
Oh well, you can always find my 
old stuff at YouTube at Warboss 

919
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,800
5 from back in the heady days 
when I had nothing better to do 

920
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,960
between 7:00 PM and 2:00 in the 
morning every night and streamed

921
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,160
My various opinions politically 
can be found Warboss 5 on Blue 

922
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:32,360
Sky and if you are, if you enjoy
listening to your medieval 

923
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,560
fantasy DND adjacent books, I am
working with a lovely author 

924
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,760
named Nick Chandemo Smith who is
the writer of the Mort Seals 

925
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,560
Lost and Found, a series of 
books of which I have recorded 

926
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,680
audio versions for the first two
books and are act and actively 

927
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,600
working on getting the third one
done hopefully by the end of 

928
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,760
this year. 
It's not like I've been doing 

929
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,760
this for two years solid, and 
hopefully that will be out soon 

930
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,880
as well. 
And you had a Dungeons and 

931
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,080
Dragons campaign that's going to
be out, is out yet? 

932
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,680
I know it's going to be out in 
time for Halloween. 

933
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Yes, thank you for reminding me.
Yes I am. 

934
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,280
I actually just submitted my 
final version of it. 

935
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,840
It is a haunted house style 4 
hour dungeons and Dragons 

936
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,640
adventure set in Forgotten 
Realms. 

937
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,840
The title is a Legacy of Hubris 
that is. 

938
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:26,560
Should be available on Dungeon 
Masters Guild DMS Guild sometime

939
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,600
in the next month or so. 
Should be up in time for 

940
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,920
Halloween. 
Perfect. 

941
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,360
And you hear that? 
A four hour adventure? 

942
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,920
That's a perfect Halloween 
party. 

943
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,800
Make it happen, guys. 
Adventures League compatible. 

944
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,800
33% longer than the voyage for 
Gilligan's Island. 

945
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,840
Did you do the math in your 
head? 

946
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,600
I mean, it's 4 / 3, so yeah, all
right. 

947
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,520
Well, you see Gilligan's aisle? 
They actually went to hell. 

948
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,480
Mine is just hell adjacent. 
Is there a theory that they're 

949
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,440
actually dead? 
The whole. 

950
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,480
Time. 
Oh yeah, Gilligan is Satan. 

951
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,920
No. 
Yep, every member of the crew 

952
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,040
represents one of the seven 
deadly sins, except the Skipper,

953
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:08,160
who represents 2. 
Yep, the Skipper represents 

954
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,240
gluttony and anger, the 
Professor represents pride, Mr. 

955
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:17,960
Howe represents greed, Misses 
Howe represents sloth, Marianne 

956
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,760
represents lust, and Ginger 
represents envy. 

957
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Wow. 
It kind of. 

958
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,400
OK, but what do the Harlem 
Globetrotters represent when 

959
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,200
they end up on the island 
Harlem. 

960
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:34,440
Yeah, always repping Harlem. 
We're going to let Ryan get on 

961
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,880
out of here as we wrap the 
season finale. 

962
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,040
Ryan, let's do this again real 
soon. 

963
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,800
Oh, absolutely. 
Anytime. 

964
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,000
Thanks, Buddy. 
All right, Michael, with that, 

965
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,400
it's going to bring us to the 
second-half of our finale. 

966
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,840
If you're enjoying what you've 
listened to so far, please don't

967
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,320
forget to like, follow, 
subscribe, or check us out at 

968
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,200
www.theoldswitcharoo.com. 
Mike have a little tradition 

969
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,040
here. 
At the end of every season I try

970
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,280
to speed run, saying every game 
and I try to get it faster and 

971
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,440
faster. 
My best run was from season 2 

972
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,800
when I did 30 games in 13.2 
seconds. 

973
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,640
So to beat my record, I need to 
do all 22 games from this season

974
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,640
in 9.7 seconds. 
I was doing it during rehearsal.

975
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,480
I think I can do it this time. 
I boofed it last year, but I'm 

976
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,240
ready. 
Are you ready? 

977
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,440
Sure. 
This year on the old Switcheroo 

978
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:40,320
Season 4, we covered what? 
Was the first thing you said. 

979
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Vajara's Mask. 
Sorry, I guess. 

980
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,560
Sorry, I think I only heard 
chippy row. 

981
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,720
No, I cut out. 
No, no, no, no, no. 

982
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,520
That's what I meant. 
I meant I didn't hear the full 

983
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,240
title. 
I just saying I was saying 

984
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,840
gibberish. 
I I didn't. 

985
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:05,480
Hear plug into adventure, Mike. 
Go to hell you bastard. 

986
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,760
Sonic the Hedgehog spinball over
here. 

987
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,640
But you know what's fun though? 
In the past I have slowed it 

988
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,600
down and you actually can tell 
what word I'm trying to say. 

989
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,560
So I think 8.8 is good. 
Whether or not I have plugs into

990
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,520
Adventure don't scare me. 
I thought the audio cut out for 

991
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,320
a second. 
And so then let's move on to our

992
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,400
seasonal award show, the old 
Switcharoonies, where we give a 

993
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,680
shout out to the superstars and 
Nintendo duds of our last 22 

994
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,120
games, starting with the 
Titanfall Award for Most 

995
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,320
Underrated Game. 
Mike, which game do you think 

996
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,680
needs more love like Nintendo 
Switch Online itself? 

997
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,040
I. 
Mean, I think, and this extends 

998
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,280
to the full title, I'm going 
chibi robo plug into it into 

999
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,120
adventure. 
He didn't even know, and you're 

1000
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,640
giving me grief for it? 
Yeah. 

1001
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,680
No. 
You like that game? 

1002
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,200
A lot. 
And what I love so much about 

1003
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,760
our show is how rarely we agree.
But that was very high up on 

1004
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,120
both our lists. 
What'd you like about it so 

1005
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,800
much? 
I mean, I think also just part 

1006
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,840
of it is I don't hear people 
talk about that generally. 

1007
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Like it's it feels like a game 
that deserves to be more well 

1008
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,680
known and isn't. 
And and I think I think a big 

1009
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,200
part of it is the lack of a 
Smash Brothers representation. 

1010
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,600
And as Lawson said, put Chibi 
Robo in there. 

1011
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,120
But size accurate. 
So he's like a pixel. 

1012
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,840
That would be such a fun troll 
character. 

1013
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,520
Mine is Donkey Kong on the Game 
Boy. 

1014
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,520
I am still shocked that the box 
art for that does not make it 

1015
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,400
clear to the consumer that this 
is not Donkey Kong from the 

1016
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,120
arcade. 
This is Donkey Kong from the 

1017
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,600
arcade followed by like 96 other
levels. 

1018
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,720
It keeps going and going and 
Mario has never played this good

1019
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,280
in 2D. 
In my opinion. 

1020
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,640
Your control over Mario with 
your ability to backflip and 

1021
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,120
handstand and catch and grab 
objects, it feels better to play

1022
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,040
than later Mario 2D games that 
came out like in the Wii era. 

1023
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,360
So if you've been sleeping on 
it, you got to check it out. 

1024
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,120
Game Boy on the donkey. 
Game Boy on the donkey Gong. 

1025
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:17,000
Yeah, that'll help. 
That is one of the largest 

1026
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,640
examples of miss marketing a 
game I have ever seen. 

1027
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,680
It's staggeringly so, yeah. 
How about the Paul Rudd Award 

1028
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,960
for game? 
That's aged beautifully. 

1029
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,920
I. 
Initially considered giving this

1030
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,040
to Tecmo Bowl because I thought 
that was really playable. 

1031
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,840
Yeah. 
But we played Tetris this season

1032
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,800
and I just felt like you. 
Is it Tetris is eternal? 

1033
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,120
Yeah, it's like saying you want 
chess to be modernized. 

1034
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,400
Yeah, that's you know what? 
That's academically that might 

1035
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,720
be the correct answer. 
I went with Double Dragon 2. 

1036
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,000
We covered it with Sharon from 
40 Something Gamers, a podcast. 

1037
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,400
We also had his Co host Marquis 
on our Contra episode, but that 

1038
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,240
game not only gave us a chance 
to talk to two very wonderful 

1039
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,320
people, but that game is aged so
well. 

1040
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,000
Double Dragon 2 if you're a fan 
of beat em UPS, in my book it 

1041
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,320
plays better than games like 
Streets of Rage and even games 

1042
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,720
like Golden Axe. 
And that's crazy because you had

1043
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,360
so much less buttons, you had 
such weaker hardware. 

1044
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,760
But Double Dragon 2 I think 
might be the world's first great

1045
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,920
beat em up. 
Let me know in the comments why 

1046
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,520
I'm wrong. 2 was the one where 
your buttons were like which 

1047
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,600
side you were attacking, right? 
Correct. 

1048
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,200
And it was also the one where 
like you would jump and then 

1049
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,960
Crouch and you could set up 
attacks and do super attacks. 

1050
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,800
And it was all available from 
the beginning. 

1051
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,960
You said to learn it. 
It was also the one with the 

1052
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,880
helicopter level where you're 
getting sucked out the door. 

1053
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Like come on, you were digging 
that too. 

1054
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,560
So how about then the Wadham 
Award for weirdest and wackiest 

1055
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,800
game? 
I'm excited for this one because

1056
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,480
I don't know which direction 
you're going to go. 

1057
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,440
I mean, I always try to make 
sure that like, I'm not picking 

1058
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,120
the same game for a bunch of 
these. 

1059
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,520
Yeah, I still needed to pick 
Chevy Robo ultimately. 

1060
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Like it just I've it felt like 
it fit that of especially 

1061
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,000
because it just has that weird 
vibe to it the whole way 

1062
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,800
through. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1063
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,640
And definitely like where that 
story gets kind of dark and 

1064
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,840
real, like it deals with like 
divorce. 

1065
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,280
Like you had kind of pointed out
that some of the characters sort

1066
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,240
of feel like they might be on 
the spectrum. 

1067
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,920
So there's a bit of like 
representation there. 

1068
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,400
But also there's such fully 
fledged characters and none of 

1069
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,320
it ever feels like, you know, 
mean spirited or stereotypical 

1070
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,000
or whatever. 
Like it really is a truly rich 

1071
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,000
story. 
And I'll get to that later. 

1072
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,240
I went with Earthbound. 
I just think that that game is 

1073
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,360
so genuinely funny, both in 
obvious ways. 

1074
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,160
Like Taylor pointed out from the
Wild Mouse podcast, the giant 

1075
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,600
pile of puke is, you know, is a 
boss. 

1076
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,480
Like, how great is that? 
But then even down to some of 

1077
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,760
the little slide jokes, like 
early in the game, you're 

1078
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:06,200
blocked by a giant iron pencil, 
so you have to find the pencil 

1079
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,200
eraser. 
Like that's hilarious. 

1080
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,160
Like that. 
That was the bit that had been 

1081
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,000
an octopus in the Japanese 
version, right? 

1082
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,400
Yes, yes, that. 
You bet you're hoping that was 

1083
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,960
going to be a trivia question. 
I didn't know it was going to 

1084
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,800
come with the trivia questions. 
I I just had that as one of my 

1085
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,800
thoughts. 
Exactly like I had considered 

1086
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,680
that one for this as well 
because of stuff like that. 

1087
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,960
But it also just does stuff as 
RP GS I had never seen before. 

1088
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,720
Name in the comments. 
Let me know one more RPG where 

1089
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,400
the dungeon joins your party 
after you complete the dungeon 

1090
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,720
and the dungeon follows you and 
it 1K OS everything because it's

1091
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,680
a freaking dungeon. 
Like it's so good it holds up so

1092
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,880
well. 
Earthbound on the SNES. 

1093
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,240
OK. 
Skies of Arcadia award for most.

1094
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,640
In need of a reboot or a 
remaster? 

1095
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,840
I got to go with a game that had
an interesting concept and 

1096
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,840
handled horribly, Alien Storm. 
What? 

1097
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,280
What do you mean? 
Handled it horribly. 

1098
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,880
I thought you liked you. 
Didn't like that game? 

1099
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,920
I like the concept. 
I think the controls were 

1100
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,200
frustrating. 
Yeah, the controls aren't very 

1101
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,080
accurate. 
I almost put that because I 

1102
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,000
loved And by concept you mean 
the fact that it blends beat em 

1103
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,000
up first person shooter like 
auto scrolling shooter. 

1104
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,280
Yeah, it is cool how that game 
blends genres and I always love 

1105
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,920
an excuse to talk to my brothers
about it. 

1106
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,080
They're the two most fun people 
to talk to in the whole world. 

1107
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,640
I almost put it, but I went with
Telero boxer because I really 

1108
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,640
love that game. 
I know Cyril likes that game is 

1109
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,800
one of your lowest games of the 
whole season, but you're wrong 

1110
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,520
Mike. 
That game is good, you just 

1111
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,240
didn't get used to it. 
So if Nintendo ever does a 

1112
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,320
proper virtual reality system, 
it would be so cool to have a 

1113
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,760
boxing game where you're just 
independently controlling the 

1114
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,680
fists and you cuz I do a lot of 
VR boxing in my spare time on my

1115
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,080
metaquest. 
I want to tell her a boxer 

1116
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,480
version of that the the the 
enemy designs are so good and we

1117
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,600
never got multiplayer because as
Cyril pointed out, like you 

1118
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,960
know, they never released the 
multiplayer cable because the 

1119
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,840
system was such a flop. 
Like that system flopped so 

1120
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,760
hard. 
They never released peripherals.

1121
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,120
So the two player mode was 
dropped. 

1122
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,200
I want to play telero boxer in 
versus mode and I know they're 

1123
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,400
spiritual successors, but I want
a real successor. 

1124
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,360
And plus Nintendo, you have 
arms, which is a boxing 

1125
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,000
franchise with a bunch of 
robots. 

1126
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,400
Telero boxer X arms. 
You can have that for free, just

1127
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,160
don't sue us. 
OK, so then the Illumination 

1128
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,280
award for game that would make a
hit movie. 

1129
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,840
Mike, if we did a screen time 
episode for one of these games, 

1130
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,320
what would it be? 
I mean amusingly, not Quest for 

1131
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,240
Camelot. 
I thought that too. 

1132
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,640
It's like be funny. 
I feel dishonest. 

1133
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,040
I think I have to go Ninja 
Gaiden too. 

1134
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:52,000
Not as good as the first one, 
but both of those I would like 

1135
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,040
his movies. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1136
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,000
You want it so badly that like 
it extends. 

1137
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,480
You want a franchise of these 
films. 

1138
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,200
No Solid answer. 
I respect it dipping back into 

1139
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,080
the same. 
Well, I actually went with Chibi

1140
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,840
Robo on this one. 
I think that there could be a 

1141
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,160
really cool live action should 
be Robo, where the toys and the 

1142
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,800
chibi is. 
Maybe stop motion, but you have 

1143
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,320
actual actors or some kind of 
Who Framed Roger Rabbit blend or

1144
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,360
maybe just purely claymation for
everything. 

1145
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,520
But I think like you put Wes 
Anderson to direct it, you lean 

1146
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,760
into like the quirkiness of it. 
You get kind of a folksy 

1147
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,680
soundtrack and and you focus on 
the family drama. 

1148
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,560
You could even set it during 
like a lockdown, you know, and 

1149
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,880
and have these robots and toys 
be kind of their found family. 

1150
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,440
There's something there. 
There's like a more nuanced Toy 

1151
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,600
Story that I think you could 
tell with Chibi Robo. 

1152
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,760
So now it is a toy. 
Is it? 

1153
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,640
I feel like it's more of an 
appliance. 

1154
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,800
I think it's more like. 
A toy? 

1155
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,520
OK, let us know in the comments.
We've been plugged in the 

1156
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,320
comments section a lot today. 
So the 12:26 award for best 

1157
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,480
boxing, I think for as solid as 
a season was for quality of 

1158
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,480
games, I don't know that there 
was really a stand out favorite 

1159
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,520
boxer. 
Did I mean I have an answer, but

1160
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,320
did 1 jump out to you? 
Tellura Boxer. 

1161
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,920
Wow, Tellura Boxer does get some
love. 

1162
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,800
What do you like about it? 
The usage of the title as 

1163
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,439
basically brass knuckles on a 
robot which is already metal is 

1164
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,080
a good way of working the title 
into what's going on. 

1165
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,319
I agree. 
It's also very dynamic. 

1166
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:33,359
It's very punchy. 
I want to give some love to the 

1167
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,120
favorite of my boy Derek from 
the underrated movie podcast 

1168
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,640
Majora's Mask. 
I just remember seeing that box 

1169
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,960
as a kid, not having a Nintendo 
64 yet. 

1170
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,479
Being so jealous of kids that 
got to play it. 

1171
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,120
And skull Kids eyes just staring
at you from across the target, 

1172
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,319
impossible to resist. 
You got that cool Elseworlds 

1173
01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:55,840
kind of color palette. 
The explosion of color. 

1174
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,399
I believe that the mask was 
actually like raised up so like 

1175
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:02,720
it had texture to it. 
Majora's Basque. 

1176
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:08,359
Best box for me, the Pro Skater 
2 award for best manual. 

1177
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,960
Mike, what is your favorite 
instruction manual? 

1178
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,560
And tell everyone why it's 
earthbound. 

1179
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,279
I mean, it, it, it, it's, of 
course it's Earthbound because 

1180
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,680
Earthbound, like nothing else is
able to catch up to that. 

1181
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,840
And there were things that 
tried, but that thing is a, it's

1182
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,399
the full manual for the game, 
basically like the strategy 

1183
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:32,720
guide kind of thing, but sort of
done and kind of, I guess like a

1184
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,000
diegetic sort of way where it's 
like meant to sort of feel 

1185
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,399
within the world still more like
it's a travel guide. 

1186
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,760
Yeah. 
And it made playing in the game 

1187
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,680
a lot, like, noticeably better. 
Like, I wish I'd had the 

1188
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,439
physical thing while I was going
through, but it was so, so nice 

1189
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,880
to have a thing be like, oh, I 
just kind of need to do like 

1190
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,520
these things. 
It doesn't tell me how to do it,

1191
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,280
but it tells me that you know 
these are your To Do List items.

1192
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,480
And you also said it has like 
articles and things kind of 

1193
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,200
padding out the story of each 
town that you're. 

1194
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,440
In Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's 
incredible. 

1195
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,680
It's, it's, it almost feels like
they should have found some way.

1196
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,000
Hey, Nintendo, Nintendo, include
the manuals. 

1197
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,200
Make these readable on the 
Switch as a PDF form or 

1198
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,920
something. 
Or whoa, Nintendo, Oh, Nintendo.

1199
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,920
Oh, listen, my sweet Nintendo, 
you have this Nintendo Switch 

1200
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,720
Online app. 
Why don't you just make that 

1201
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,560
part of the app? 
And so then you you're playing 

1202
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,200
the game on your Switch or your 
TV and then the phone app is the

1203
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,080
instruction manual, right, Mike?
Slam dunk, Slam dunk. 

1204
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,880
Some of the things that we we 
played on Switch that we're not 

1205
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,640
on Nintendo Switch Online knew 
to give you the manuals, I 

1206
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,960
believe, yeah, I think zombies 
at my neighbors, I believe did 

1207
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,240
that. 
They did, yeah. 

1208
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,280
It's a known thing. 
It's part of the industry. 

1209
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,960
And also the some of them are 
really cool, like people put 

1210
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,280
really a lot of work into this. 
It's part of the history, so you

1211
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,600
know, and you have the rights to
it. 

1212
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,880
I'm sure you do. 
Yeah, so make me having to go to

1213
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,040
like the Internet Archive or 
figure out whatever other place 

1214
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,360
has these. 
Yeah, and make it more work for 

1215
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,720
my boy. 
Which is what threw me with 

1216
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,560
Earthbound was like the first 
thing I ended up with was like 

1217
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,120
100 page PDF. 
I'm like that can't be a manual.

1218
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,400
And then it was like, oh Nope, 
this this is the only thing they

1219
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,520
gave. 
This is insane. 

1220
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,080
Insanely cool. 
Insanely cool is more like it. 

1221
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,240
Well, let's do our final 
community vote of the season and

1222
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,880
let our listeners and our 
Discord decide. 

1223
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,880
Get the Discord link 
www.theoldswitcharoo.com. 

1224
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:31,200
This is gaming Retro Mike versus
J MO, who had the better top and

1225
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,600
bottom Mike. 
I think it'd be more fun if we 

1226
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,720
kind of bunch these, so people 
have to kind of consider who's 

1227
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:42,640
less wrong here. 
Mike's top game that was Chibi 

1228
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,600
Robo according to the and 
standings rankings that we've 

1229
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,480
been doing all for most of the 
season, and Mike's bottom game 

1230
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:51,800
was Telero Boxer. 
Anything to say about your 

1231
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,720
candidates? 
I think they flow really nicely 

1232
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,720
if you have to say the two one 
after the other really quickly. 

1233
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,800
Chibi robo Telerobo. 
Wait, hold on, which one you say

1234
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,920
first? 
I would go chibi robo telero 

1235
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,680
boxer. 
Chibi robo boxer. 

1236
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,600
So that's Mike's top and bottom 
or my top and bottom? 

1237
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,760
Top is earthbound and bottom is 
super ninja boy I'm I still 

1238
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,120
haven't forgiven you Super ninja
boy, you broke my heart. 

1239
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,360
I want those 11 hours back. 
So let us know we'll do a 

1240
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,680
discord poll and let us know in 
the comments who has a better 

1241
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:29,920
eye on the top and bottom of our
season 4 list, which believes I 

1242
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,520
brings us to our switch list are
things we're looking forward to 

1243
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,440
are hoping to see added to the 
Nintendo Switch online service 

1244
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,680
or just gaming or the future in 
general. 

1245
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,360
Mike, you want to take us 
through your pie in the sky 

1246
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,120
dreams? 
I've got three things. 

1247
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,120
I think it's 1 you know, 1 you 
can probably guess and one you 

1248
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,840
don't see coming. 
Cruise in. 

1249
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,040
Yes I want cruise in USA Rogue 
Squadron. 

1250
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,080
No, I should say the other two 
are not specific titles. 

1251
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,200
OK, well you want another 
system. 

1252
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,960
I want another system. 
Any particular one? 

1253
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,320
I would say because we're 
already part way there. 

1254
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,000
Sega CD or 32 X. 
Yeah, I, I was saying I think 

1255
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,680
the 32X is far more likely 
because if you did Sega CD, 

1256
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,640
you'd probably have to get the 
likeness of the full motion 

1257
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,720
video games, and that's what 
that was entirely known for. 

1258
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,840
I mean, I just want more Genesis
games. 

1259
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,480
Like just don't let that thing 
die on the vine, you know? 

1260
01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:28,400
I know you rebranded the 
Nintendo Classics, but it has 

1261
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,200
its fans. 
It keep being a place for that. 

1262
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,200
There's so many great Genesis 
games to go. 

1263
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,960
And then what was the third one?
I would like a Virtual Boy 

1264
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,360
controller because I don't think
the Switch controller is well 

1265
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,200
suited for the Virtual Boy. 
Yeah, and there's something kind

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,520
of OCD about you can get 
recreations of the controller 

1267
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,640
for every system but that one. 
I guess you can't order a Game 

1268
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,120
Boy either. 
But it I agree though, there is 

1269
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,280
a button layout that I don't 
think is being properly 

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01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,200
emulated. 
Not at all, especially I think 

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01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,760
especially like Telero Boxer. 
It's a stupid configuration and 

1272
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,160
I would much rather have had 
what that controller actually 

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,320
had. 
Right. 

1274
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,040
Though I will also add I think 
it's utterly stupid that those 

1275
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,400
controller sell outs like the S 
and the S controller is sold out

1276
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,160
right now. 
Yeah, you think they would just 

1277
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,280
produce more when they run out 
of them? 

1278
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,280
Yeah, just keep making them and 
making them available and not 

1279
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,960
being weird about this. 
I don't. 

1280
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,760
I don't get why they're weird 
about this. 

1281
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,440
Well, and you know, that's still
my billion dollar idea is that I

1282
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:32,280
think that they should put these
in stores and include a free 

1283
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:36,120
subscription and let Nintendo 
classic live on a smart TV. 

1284
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,280
Like I think Switch is strong 
enough as it is that I think 

1285
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,240
that this service deserves more 
devices. 

1286
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,000
So I'm still waiting for my 
previous wishes. 

1287
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,280
Clay fighter rampage. 
I still want Wario mega party 

1288
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,920
games on the game cube. 
That was a stress family 

1289
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,320
favorite. 
If you're listening the turtle 

1290
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,920
balancing game, Mike, we have 
Game Cube games now. 

1291
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,840
So I'm going to show you what 
I'm pretty sure is going to be 

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01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,800
your new favorite game of all 
time. 

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,240
Are you ready? 
All right. 

1294
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,840
Have you heard of Odama? 
Not yet, not. 

1295
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:18,120
Odama ODAMA is a pinball real 
time strategy game where the 

1296
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:23,440
battlefield is a pinball table. 
You use flippers to knock a 

1297
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:27,320
giant cannonball around, to 
destroy your enemy's 

1298
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,720
foundations, and to knock over 
their troops and hopefully not 

1299
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,320
destroy your own. 
And I don't know, you're 

1300
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,640
probably not going to love this.
But since you're busy operating 

1301
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,920
the flippers, you have to use 
voice command to tell your 

1302
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,640
troops where to go. 
The Game Cube came with a 

1303
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,160
microphone. 
It loses me at that. 

1304
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,240
Dang it, How'd you going though?
I go from skeptical that they 

1305
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,640
can pull this off but willing to
hear this out to not on board. 

1306
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,200
Nah. 
Dang it. 

1307
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,400
Well, maybe they'll figure out 
some clever work around and 

1308
01:15:57,440 --> 01:16:01,880
let's end it up here with our 
final Mike Lund's thoughts. 

1309
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,680
I'll throw back to the title 
that my brothers wanted to see. 

1310
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,920
Any parting words for our 
listeners Mike, as we round out 

1311
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,720
Season 4 here? 
I think it is always just the 

1312
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,200
thing. 
Please share this to help 

1313
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:19,560
broaden our community, and if 
you haven't joined the Discord, 

1314
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,640
become part of that community. 
Part of how this grows is 

1315
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,720
individual people recommending 
stuff out there. 

1316
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,600
There's a lot of robots 
controlling how the Internet 

1317
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,200
works right now. 
Human touches matter. 

1318
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,200
Yeah, yeah, not in a cute chibi 
robo kind of way. 

1319
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,080
In a much more distressing way. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1320
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,720
Thank you to everyone who has 
been supporting us in the 

1321
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,320
Discord and thank you to our 
celebrity guests. 

1322
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,640
Jackie Kasian from the season. 
Wonderful to get her on Jason 

1323
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:52,120
Page delivering, you know, a 
world exclusive first interview 

1324
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,320
of his new game from Ultra 
Dolphin Revolution. 

1325
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,920
I'll be covering that soon. 
Very excited to have Lisa come 

1326
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,440
over and plug her Game Boy into 
my streaming card because I'm 

1327
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,320
going to capture footage of the 
Jason Page game, maybe the first

1328
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,560
playthrough that'll be uploaded 
to the Internet. 

1329
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,880
So that's going to be super 
exciting. 

1330
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,240
And then also, you know, just 
because the timing of when this 

1331
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,520
episode's going to come out, I, 
I would just urge everyone 

1332
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,920
listening in America to please 
vote. 

1333
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,360
If I ever sound cynical, I want 
to make it very clear that I 

1334
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,640
really love this country. 
I really have faith in 

1335
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,320
democracy. 
And I really feel like if enough

1336
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,280
of us participate in the 
process, I think things will 

1337
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,640
trend in a positive direction. 
So please don't let yourself 

1338
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,960
ever feel defeated or cynical 
and, you know, keep good 

1339
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,320
conversations going. 
Hopefully we've added a little 

1340
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,280
bit to that, a little bit of 
that to your day in some in some

1341
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,720
small way. 
This podcast has been about 

1342
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,920
nothing for me. 
It's about continuing after 

1343
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,880
being defeated. 
Words to live by. 

1344
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,800
And for me it's been cheating. 
Oh well, everyone, it's been a 

1345
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,680
long time coming, but that's 
going to do it for Season 4. 

1346
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,360
Everyone join us next time when 
Mike and I will be doing it 

1347
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,080
again with another screen time 
episode as we cover 2026's 

1348
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:13,000
martial arts mix up Street 
Fighter with at least some of us

1349
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,360
in costume. 
So that's going to be fun. 

1350
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,360
Also, don't forget forget to 
visit www.theoldswitcharoo.com. 

1351
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,240
There you can find links to our 
Spotify, Discord, YouTube, 

1352
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,440
TikTok and all the social medias
you can shake a joystick at. 

1353
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,600
Big thanks to Crystal Fields for
our incredible intro song. 

1354
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,880
And please, dear listener, don't
forget to like and subscribe. 

1355
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,280
This has been the old switcheroo
where we've been talking gaming 

1356
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,760
retro with Mike and Jamo. 
I've been Mike. 

1357
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,080
And I've been Jamo.

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Born into comfortable middle-class suburbia, I got into gaming early in life with Sonic and the Sega Genesis. Things were great, as all new romances are, but eventually I tired of her. And so I moved from the chunky cartridges of my youth to the sleek curve of the Playstation's CD-ROM disks. From there it was on to her sister the Playstation 2, then to their cousin the Xbox. They were fun times to be sure, but all the while it felt like something was MISSING. That's when I realized that what had been searching for had been staring me in the face since the beginning, the best friend that had been by my side all along: my PC. And so I forsook (mostly) the realm of the console and began the one great love of my life. And I haven't looked back since.