Screentime: Street Fighter (2026) Spoiler Discussion
Mike & Jaymo are joined by costumed guest hosts Bryan and Sarah to square up against Legendary Pictures’ “Street Fighter.” Released October 16th, 2026, this over-the-top action comedy isn’t for everyone, but is it a NintenDO or a NintenDON’T? We break down the poster, the plot, give you the play-by-play for all the brawls, and Mike confuses the subtexts of Sparticus and Ben-Hur in a most embarrassing way. Can you handle it? SURE-YOU-CAN!Thanks for listening! Subscribe to The Old SwitchAroo to get more retro goodness delivered straight to your feed! You can also join the fun on https://www.theoldswitcharoo.com, where you'll find links to our Discord, social media, and so much more!Game on, everyone.Be sure to follow Bryan on Instagram for all his latest adventures in cosplay & activism at @bryan.s.lee: https://www.instagram.com/bryan.s.lee/ or on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@BryanLeeIGN has all the deets on Callina Liang’s transformation into Chun-Li right here:https://www.ign.com/articles/chun-li-actress-grew-her-thighs-65-centimeters-to-match-the-first-lady-of-fighting-games-for-the-street-fighter-movie
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Round one fight because it's
time for the old switcharoo
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where we're talking gaming retro
with Mike and Jaymo.
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I'm Mike.
And I'm Jaymo we're the often
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imitated, never emulated gaming
podcast that researches, reviews
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and playfully ribs every
Nintendo game in the Nintendo
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Switch Online, Nintendo Classics
catalog and some Sega games too.
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But in this special screen time
episode, we are throwing hands
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and fireballs as we do a spoiler
filled review of Street Fighter,
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directed by Kitao Sakurai and
released by Legendary Pictures.
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If you like what you hear, don't
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your thoughts in the comments
below.
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Joining us ringside is the
nomadic warrior who struggles
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with his ability to contain
massive amounts of power and
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pancakes.
It's Ryan from Instagram.
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Brian dot S dot Lee Brian.
How to feel the dust off that
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ghee after 20 years of
hibernation?
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God, 21 actually.
So it's a little bit more than
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half my life ago that I first
put together this costume, or
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rather, I had a ghee from from
an Aikido class and I just
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decided like, am I willing to
cut the sleeves off to be real?
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And like, you know what, I'm
sure I'll get lots of mileage
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out of it.
I wore it for one Halloween
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costume party and then never
again for another 21 years.
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But you know what Street Fighter
weekend it was like?
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I felt like it was a perfect
opportunity to dust it off so.
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Thank you.
And then, and that was just for
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a costume party, right?
Yeah, yeah, MM was there too.
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So it was a Halloween themed,
sorry, it was a video game theme
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Halloween party.
So.
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And your old Hadukins from I
guess 2006, 2005.
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Yeah, were were tennis balls
wrapped in blue tissue paper.
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Yeah, which I didn't really even
like affix it to it.
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I just figured if I just bunch
it up, it'll stay on there,
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right, Right.
They immediately separated when
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I try to like haduken them, you
know, but but yeah, you know,
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I'm glad you you provided me
this one with, you know, one of
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those like little.
I don't know what you call this
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like a firm koosh ball type of
thing, but there we go.
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And it lights up if you hit so.
Put that on my head.
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Stone firm koosh ball.
No, it's a dog toy.
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Just squeeze it like right now.
Squeeze is.
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It a dog toy.
I mean, I guess big dog.
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Give it a squeeze.
Shit, I had no idea it did that,
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did that.
That's great.
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And kicking her way onto the
stage, making her triumphant
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return from the season 3's Mario
Party extravaganza.
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It's the strongest woman in the
world, Chun Li, played by Sarah
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Ford.
Sarah, years ago, you jokingly
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pulled off the perfect Chun Li
laugh.
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And that was the moment that
made me want to dress up for
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this movie.
How'd it feel slipping into the
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Chun Blues for the first time?
Well, slightly culturally,
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appropriationally, but, but you
know, I did it anyway.
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I did it.
I did it for Jamo.
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You rock it well, very well.
Chun Li was always my favorite
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character.
I feel like, OK, it's tough
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because it's also, she's also
the only girl.
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That's why I I wanted to play as
the only girl because of course,
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you know, I got to Rep the girl.
I always Rep the Princess and
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you know, Mario and Mario Party.
So when you only have one girl,
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like you can't be worried about
her race you know so well.
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And you can do the yatas really
well.
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Yeah.
She was the first female
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fighting game character in
history, so you know.
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Cameo wasn't in the very first
game, I guess she was later.
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Right.
She was in Super Street Fighter,
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too.
I'm glad to wear my glasses.
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But yeah, I mean, you don't need
to tell me about feeling
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conflicted about your costume
because like, you know, I'm
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Andrew Schultz's version of Dan,
who is Japanese in the games.
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You know what I mean?
But they recast him and it's
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interesting because like, you
know, we'll get into it when we
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get into the spoiler filled Plot
Summary.
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But the movie addresses it like,
I think it's who played Don
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Savage was that he's the
comedian Eric Andre.
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Eric Andre was like, you still
pretend to be Japanese.
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And I was like, oh, OK.
Like, we're full on addressing
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it.
He was a big pleasant surprise
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for me, the Don Savage
character.
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But, you know, I was very
relieved to see that there was
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nothing about this portrayal
that associated with the exact
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the more problematic things
about the guy.
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You know, So like, I kind of
feel like everyone has to kind
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of decide what they're going to
engage with at this point
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because also, you know, it's
going to this was the first
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movie with the Paramount and
Skydance logo, merger or merger
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logo.
And I think we all have like,
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kind of conflicting feelings
about a studio that makes all of
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these movies about, you know,
fighting perverted fascists and
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then in real life does something
very different.
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So if you have conflicted
feelings about this movie, I
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think they're totally valid.
I don't know if you.
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Absolve.
You absolve me basically.
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I do, I do, and I do also want
to point out the costume Sarah's
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wearing for the zoom is not the
one she wore because this one
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was a little bit more.
I I just wore the blue like the
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under.
There you go.
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I just wore that to the.
Premiere See, you're you're
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wearing the part that got burned
in the fireplace, you know?
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Yeah, well, I thought, you know,
for the zoom, it doesn't really
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come across as much.
So I was like, for the Zoom, I
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gotta wear the like, you know?
The more Street Fighter Alpha
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look.
Yeah, the more Street Fighter
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look, yeah.
It's nice, it's very snazzy.
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I love the the the Sheen of it
too.
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Yeah.
All right.
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So you guys ready to kick?
Is the best.
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You guys ready to kick it?
Shall we get started?
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Sure.
Hell yeah.
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So let's deep dive into Street
Fighter, released in theaters
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worldwide 2026.
As described on imdb.com, street
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fighters Ryu and Ken reunite
with Chun Li when Chun Li
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recruits them for the World
Warrior Tournament.
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As they face a hidden
conspiracy, they must confront
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each other and their past or
face destruction.
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So we got a big group together,
a lot of switcheroo alums and
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some faces.
You'll be meeting soon to go to
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the TCL Chinese Theatre for my
birthday.
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So big thanks to everyone who
showed up for me And costumed up
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for me not in the zoom is our
friend Margo.
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She was from our Season 2 Mario
episode who did a cami white
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outfit.
But above the Chinese Theater is
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this really striking poster of,
I guess, our three protagonists,
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Ryu, Ken and Chun Li, each kind
of doing a signature move.
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Chun Li is kicking high, Ryu is
doing a show where you sorry,
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Ken's doing a show where you can
uppercut.
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And Ryu is, of course, charging
that iconic Hadouken Fireball.
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Mike, I know this isn't the one
on letterbox, but what did you
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think of the one hanging above
the Chinese?
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I didn't really notice it.
No.
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No.
OK.
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So I I don't really have
thoughts on it because I didn't
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really see it.
You gotta look.
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Up I I also didn't notice it,
Mike.
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And then Kyle took a picture of
me in front of it and he told me
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to pose.
And I go, well, tell me how to
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pose.
And he's like, oh, that's good,
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whatever you're doing, that's
good.
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And then when I looked at the
picture he took, I'm like, dude,
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why didn't you tell me to do her
move?
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Like she's like this with her
leg up.
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And he's like, yeah, that's
good.
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And I just went kind of like
this with my leg down and I'm
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like, it was, it was right
there, dude.
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It was right there.
Just tell me to put my arm up
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slightly and put my leg up.
Oh, I just keep it up in the.
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Photo and I think it looks great
and like, I mean, yeah, you
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don't have to necessarily match
exactly.
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If anything, the one I took,
which I'm which I'm well, I'm
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proud of the one I took.
It's right there.
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Sure.
But like now when I look at it,
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it's like, oh, I didn't do the,
I did the hands kind of in the
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opposite orientation.
I'm like exactly because me, I'm
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trying to emulate it.
You, you're just doing an
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alternate pose.
I feel like that, that maybe
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you're gonna work.
Oh, OK, well, but.
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But nobody told me to emulate
it.
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I was like, I didn't even see
it.
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I didn't even realize it was
there.
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Kyle's like.
Oh no, I was.
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Like, oh, he told me, because
the poster's right there.
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But then he told me he had a
pose.
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Well, and let it be known, I
have been in many body combat
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classes with Sarah.
She can do the kicks like she is
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she.
I know I can do the kicks.
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Yeah, you guys will see.
I mean, maybe like in that video
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that we shot that will probably
be up at the time this is out,
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so.
Yeah, I like it.
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I think that it really
establishes that this is going
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to do something that a Street
Fighter movie never has before,
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which is you're going to get
your iconic moves.
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We've seen two Street Fighter
movies released in the West, not
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counting the animation, which
we'll talk about later.
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But like, you know, in the 1994
Jean-Claude Van Damme movie that
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Sarah fell asleep 20 minutes in
and woke up 20 minutes left.
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So Sarah's seen the 40 minute
cut of the Sleepy Sarah cut of
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The Street Fighter.
But you had fun with it.
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Yeah, yeah, I think I got the
gist.
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If anyone's interested, Mike and
I did a stream team with a
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friend of the show Kyle talking
about that movie.
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So if you if you want to get
your Street Fighter double dose,
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go check out the stream team
recording.
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That was a lot of fun.
But you know, this is the first
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time we see the fireballs, the
flying uppercuts, like a lot of
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the signature moves that we love
so much and that those are such
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a part of the series and of the
characters identities, like
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really fun getting to see those
properly.
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Yeah, I agree.
And I feel like especially given
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that, you know, it's been the
first live action movie was 90.
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Or 4. 94 OK, yeah, so we're
talking about like over 30 years
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since we had a movie that at
least, you know, opinions will
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vary about it, but at least it
embraced the the look and feel,
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the camp of the of the series,
you know which you know, I guess
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that second movie you're talking
about the what?
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The legend of Chun Li. 2009.
To be fair, and I was talking
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about this with Mike, I never
actually saw that one, but I
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remember a lot of the discourse
basically kind of confirming
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what you could sort of see from
the trailers.
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It looked like the kind of movie
that was like because I know
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that focus particularly on Chun
Li and and and Bison.
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I don't know how many of the
other characters really appeared
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in it, but it looked like like
like they don't.
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They clearly made the creative
choice for better or for worse.
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But I guess in most fans eyes,
like they don't look like Chun
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Li and M Bison to you at a
glance, you know, it looked like
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they were they were trying to
ground it in a way that like you
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guys, this is an over the top
fighting game where where they
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throw fireballs out of their
hands.
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And like these characters are
kind of crazy and iconic and
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have these appearances that
you're not really capitalizing
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on.
So there's been a long given
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that this has been a popular
game franchise forever.
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I feel like, you know, it's nice
to see a movie embrace the camp
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and this the the feel of the
game, which also means being a
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little ridiculous.
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The color palette, you know,
because I in that Kristen Crook
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movie, like the only one you'd
recognize is Vega and that's cuz
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of the mass right?
You know?
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So according to Deadline, this
movie had a budget of
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82,000,000, which is small I
think for a movie with this many
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characters and special effects.
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virginiaglaze@ign.com, actor
Kalina Liang did two hours of
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legs and ate 12 eggs a day to
prepare for the role of Chun Li,
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increasing each increasing each
leg size by 2.6 inches by the
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time the film wrapped, which
like that is a lot of muscle
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gain.
She.
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Really did she really did put in
the work.
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I'm I'm it's very impressive.
And I mean, you can see,
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especially in that brief fight
she has with the people who are
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trying to like, like right
before she heads back in to, to,
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to go into the, to go into the
fray when she has that red
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dress.
But you can see like her thighs,
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like, oh, damn, she has like
tone to them.
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And in shots that you can tell
like, oh, they couldn't use a
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stunt double for this because
you know, like she put in the
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work.
It's it's incredible.
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Yeah, that scene only existed to
show off her legs because like,
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why is she beating the hell out
of her Co workers?
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Like, did we need this scene?
And it's like, yeah.
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I mean, I get it especially, I
mean, there's a lot of discourse
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to be said around the the the
pressures that tend to get put
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on on actors to portray iconic
characters and, and the bodies
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that they have that they.
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Like with Marvel, you see how
much it's done and how much
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like, and, and the fact that
it's like they have to even
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dehydrate themselves the day out
to show as much of like The
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Wolverine 6 pack or in when they
do the shirtless scene or
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something like that.
But I mean like it's, it's, it's
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incredible what the the and, and
the the work that they'll put
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into and if anything, the fact
that this movie is coming so
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long after this game.
As you know, this is a a
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generation after that 90s one.
Pretty much everyone involved
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like they, they, they grew up
with the franchise.
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A lot of them are at least
casual fans themselves and want
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to do the characters justice.
So like, if they're going to
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put, if they're going to put in
that work, yeah, you got to show
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it off.
And so to bring it back to that
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scene, it's like, yes, that was
meant to showcase Chun Li's
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thighs, but look at them.
I'm like, holy shit.
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Well.
I'm just glad we've reached an
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era when thick thighs are
appreciated in a woman because
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it's it was not always that way.
That's absolutely true.
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Absolutely true.
Brian, you mentioned, you know,
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so much of the cast and crew and
people working on this movie
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were fans of it growing up.
So Cody Rhodes apparently always
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wanted to play Colonel Guile.
And when he learned that the
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shooting of the movie was going
to make him miss the birth of
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his son, he declined the role.
And his wife is like, no, you
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have to do this.
You have been talking about this
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for years.
And so and.
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He's such an inspired choice for
Guile too.
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You know, like, well, I mean,
and plus, you know, quick,
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quick, sorry, quick continue.
But quick aside.
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Like I remember the first
glimpse that I got, or I think a
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lot of people got of this
production at all.
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Yeah.
Was the I think he put into his
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Instagram stories his own photo
of his silhouette wearing the
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wig.
And you can just see from the
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silhouette like, oh, wow,
they're embracing like he's
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doing full on flat top.
You know, like this is all
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right, they're going cap for
this.
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It was actually Andrew Scholz
took the picture and it was his
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shadow on the pavement.
But it was the iconic.
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You saw the shape and you're
like, oh, they're really doing
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this.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So in addition to playing the
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leather clad dictator and bison,
David Dusmulchin also wrote the
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back story for his own character
in the upcoming graphic novel
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adaptation.
So I thought that was pretty
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cool.
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And I think that's what I got
for the trivia other than this
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thing is just stock full of fun
cameos and things that like
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probably I only caught like
there's a prison break scene
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later in the movie and pretty
much everyone in the cell is a
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fighting game community
influencer or YouTube.
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So there's this fun little meta
joke of like Bison torturing all
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these people that have been
playing the fighting games and
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the bosses torture them in the
game because they're trying to
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beat it on like the hardest
difficulty, you know?
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And now Bison like, literally
has them captive.
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So let's go over the joy pros
and joy cons of each section as
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we work our way through the
Wikipedia Plot Summary.
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Full spoilers from here on out.
So the story begins in 1987.
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Japanese born Ryu defeats Sagat
in the First World War Warrior
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Tournament using the Dark Hado,
attracting the attention of the
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deity Akuma.
Shortly afterward, Akuma murders
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Ryu's mentor Gokan to provoke
Ryu into unleashing the Dark
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Hado.
The incident drives Rio and his
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adoptive brother Ken apart, and
Rio disappears from the martial
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arts world.
Six years later in Bison,
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dictator of Shadow Lou organizes
the Second World War tournament
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in metro Laos city to draw Rio
out of hiding.
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Chun Li, an undercover Interpol
agent, seeks revenge for her
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father's murder at Bison's
hands.
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Recruits Rio and Ken and other
fighters from around the world.
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So let's stop there for a
second.
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Kind of doing this stream team
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Mike, what did you think?
Because you're not really a
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Street Fighter guy, so I was
wondering what the animation
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prelude did for you.
So.
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That was definitely a thing.
I just didn't expect it to do
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that at all.
To the point that because I got
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in a phone call right before
coming in and stepped back out.
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I came in during that and I
thought I was, I thought I was
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still on a, it was still on a
trailer for something because
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that was, you know, that wasn't
live action.
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So I didn't even realize that
the movie had started.
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And I think for me it was the
strongest point.
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Like I like the animation
seconds that they did.
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Yeah, I did too.
A lot of video game movies do
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that thing where it's like, oh,
for a second it looks like the
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game.
So like the Doom movie has the
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first person moment and like the
Golden Axe series just does the
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thing where it's like actually
the pixels, but I like this
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better.
I think if they had like shown
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like 16 bit game footage, it
would have felt a little too
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hokum or at least for the
direction that this like was
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going.
Had any of you guys watched the
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animated movie that came out in
like 95 I'm.
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Glad you're mentioning that
you're talking about Street
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Fighter Alpha.
Not well St. not it's it's
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called Street Fighter.
The movie Street Fighter Alpha
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was an anime series, but I know
it's the one you're thinking of
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with.
With with Chun Li in the shower,
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yes, and Vega in the hotel room.
Yeah, no, I do.
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I feel like I remember watching
both of them.
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But it's Street Fighter Alpha
that you're saying it's a
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serious.
I could swear it was a it was a
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movie or maybe I saw a version
that edited it together into a
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movie or something.
Cuz I remember just having a DVD
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of Street Fighter Alpha and it
was like a complete.
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It was edited as if it was like
1 long movie.
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Yeah, yeah, I know.
It's when you're talking about
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that's the one with like akuma
is kind of what the antagonist.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Either way, I mean, they're
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they're great.
I mean, there are really
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brilliant Street Fighter anime
adaptations, which I felt like
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it was so cool to see this movie
on some level I felt like
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harkening to them too.
Like we're acknowledging that
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because obviously as we'll get
into it later too, this movie
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will acknowledge is the 94
movie.
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But the anime intro was a
surprising, but also like I was
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like, oh, but that's so
befitting way to tell the the
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flashback stuff, you know?
Yeah, yeah, I really dug that.
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And right away, the movie
establishes itself in my mind as
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a comedy.
This movie works best when it's
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making jokes.
And the the moments of the movie
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where I kind of like, started to
lose interest is when like a
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fight scene went a little too
long and was played a little too
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earnestly.
I like, like, like the like I
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was watching.
But also this movie was so
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engaging.
I didn't.
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I was standing in the hall
waiting for a good bathroom
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moment because it was the Blanca
versus Ryu fight and he's like
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zipping around the ball and, you
know, he gets the Hadouken and
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sets him free with it.
I mean, I'm jumping ahead, but I
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was going.
To say where?
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Where are we going here?
Sorry, sorry.
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I'll, I'll reel it back.
I'll reel it back.
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Sure.
But so, Sarah, you were saying
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you didn't really like the whole
Ken Masters MTV segment to do
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the recap of the story?
Yeah, I did not like that at
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all.
I thought so.
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I thought it was weird because
it was like, why are you?
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I think any point in which your
exposition goes over a minute,
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you've lost.
You've lost the audience, you've
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lost the storytelling propulsion
that you need to get people
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engaged in the movie.
So I think that some of that
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could have been told in
flashback or they should have
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made it as like, hey, Bison's
doing this big tournament.
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Here's a background on some of
the players.
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You know, how they do in the
Olympics or even when you're
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watching like a sport and
they'll like, you know, someone
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goes up to the plate and to
pitch and they'll like tell you
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a little background information
about them.
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Like they should have done it
like that as opposed to this
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weird.
It was this weird like way too
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long exposition that didn't
really fit in anywhere except
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for it just seemed like lazy
storytelling to me.
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I feel like there was a better
way to do it.
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That being said, I was really in
on Ken and reuse relationship.
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I really love that setup.
I love the like we're childhood
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besties, but now we're kind of
like maybe enemies, but.
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We're not sure.
We're not really sure where they
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stand.
I love that dynamic.
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So I think it was really smart
to set that up from the
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beginning.
I just think it could have been
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set up a little better.
And I did love the animation.
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I thought it was really
beautiful so.
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I actually I like the sort of I
kind of framed as in my mind as
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how like it might be like the
behind the music kind of things
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as well.
And he's like, honestly, if they
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just did this for the full
movie, I think I actually would
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would have dug it with I think
The only exception being it's a
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little weird when they do like,
you know, 19 days over this.
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Now it's six years later and
it's 1993.
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And I was like, OK, that's a
little bit like just say it's
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been 6 years and now they
haven't talked.
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I don't need you to to do like
we need to say the current year.
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That's what I mean, it wasn't
framed correctly.
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Like I like your behind the
music idea but frame it then
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that way.
Right now, I was, I was telling
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Mike on the on the drive home
after the movie that like, I
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guess I'm, and I feel like this
is probably the case for a lot
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of people, given the campiness
level of this movie, which is
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sort of like, which is something
that they were particularly
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striving for.
I feel like I was more willing
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to forgive what feels like
particularly overly expository
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dialogue.
But the same time there's
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obviously there's a point, you
know, like that at some point
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where it's it's it's, it can get
a little too heavy.
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But otherwise, the only other
thing I would mention,
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particularly about the animated
segments, which were gorgeous.
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I was also telling Mike that I
feel like for better or for
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worse, there was a particular
tonal shift every time you would
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go back to the live action stuff
like you.
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I like that it brought a lot of
like, like there were times that
438
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680
maybe they should have done it
more like, like like Sarah
439
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,920
mentioned with the with the Ken
stuff of like placing it later
440
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,680
and showing us flashbacks.
But there were particular
441
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,880
moments that flashback later,
you know, like like particularly
442
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960
in the the Blanca fight, which
you I guess jumped a little
443
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,280
Jerry.
But like that moment.
444
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,680
Where did you catch that glimpse
of and Bison meeting that really
445
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,160
cute, adorable, very brief
glimpse into like young, young
446
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,960
Blanca, like in the woods, like
just looking for his mom And
447
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560
like, but it would cut back to
live action and it would almost
448
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,880
feel like it's shifting to
something that it feels a little
449
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,320
bit goofier.
You know, even though it's live
450
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840
action and you're you're seeing
like a stylized version of those
451
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,960
flashbacks with all those
flashbacks are so serious.
452
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,400
And so for for better or for
worse, like the the scenes that
453
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,800
intercut with them felt like it
was shifting in tone.
454
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,240
But at the same time, I'm not
sure how else you would do it.
455
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,120
Because I want the movie to
embrace the campiness.
456
00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,040
I love that the that the the
flashbacks are shown in a very
457
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560
super serious and a very
gorgeously animated homage to
458
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,360
the previous anime adaptations
of Street Fighter.
459
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,920
But yeah, it's a bit of a mixed
bag because of that.
460
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,440
I think what this movie is not
going to get enough credit for
461
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,440
is actually very deftly
navigating the waters of Street
462
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,360
Fighter fans because they are so
diverse.
463
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,880
There are people who think that
it should be silly and stupid.
464
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,480
And then there are people who
take the lore very seriously.
465
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,680
And then there are fans who love
the female empowerment.
466
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,480
And then there's fans who love
seeing female booties.
467
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,920
And like this movie, like really
tried to give.
468
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,840
I mean, Sarah's like, well, so
Sarah, I want to ask you because
469
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,760
like, so it's well, so Jackie
kind of got the ick and I don't
470
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,480
I I totally understand it of the
number of like ash shots of like
471
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,360
every female character.
And like there's a scene where
472
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,440
Chun Li is getting into the
shower and.
473
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280
It's so unnecessary.
I looked at Jackie and I was
474
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,120
like, what the hell?
So you see her naked silhouette
475
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:03,800
and in the anime movie that
Brian and I watched as young
476
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,120
men, very formative for us,
there is a very gratuitous Chun
477
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:11,520
Li shower scene that is very
horny like 1995 anime.
478
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560
OK, and this movie is setting
that up.
479
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,880
But then you see it's actually
Honda's body that like, it cuts
480
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:22,000
to and like, and it felt like it
felt very immature, but I got a
481
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,960
smirk out of it.
Yeah, I like the subversion in
482
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,440
that moment too.
And like, we know this game and
483
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,920
a lot of games like it have been
have leaned very male gazy.
484
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,960
But if anything, I appreciated
the moments in this movie like
485
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,800
that one that sort of felt like
it was kind of trying to subvert
486
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,360
that a little bit, you know, but
but yeah, anyways, that's there
487
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,360
is a point to be made.
I mean, even as Sarah mentioned
488
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,200
right off at the bad at the
beginning, it's like Chun Lee at
489
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,480
the beginning, like she was the
only girl.
490
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,760
There wasn't a lot of like, and
she was she was made to be, you
491
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,480
know, to be to to to cater to in
a lot of adaptations, especially
492
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,320
like in like in the anime or,
you know, to to cater to male
493
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,240
fantasy.
And, and the guys were like, you
494
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,680
know, the, the sort of the, the,
the fantasy of, of, of
495
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,320
themselves, of strength of, you
know, but at the same time it's
496
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,560
a yeah.
All that to say, I like the way
497
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,480
that that movie like that, that
that way that I mean, it's
498
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,520
played for laughs that that fade
into a Honda's body, for
499
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,800
example, that that it kind of
like.
500
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,720
Just beautiful in its own way,
let's be real.
501
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,640
But so, Sarah, as a fan of Chun
Li and as a fan of these games,
502
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,120
what did you think of how this
movie navigated like the sexy
503
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:36,560
waters of it all?
I don't know if I have an
504
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,240
opinion about this sex appeal as
much, but I thought it was
505
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,400
interesting how both movies they
sort of took her out of the
506
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,880
fighting role and put her into
this like behind the scenes
507
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,400
role.
So in the older movie they she
508
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,360
was a reporter and in this movie
she was like a double agent and
509
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,880
I was kind of like, why can't
she just be a fighter like the
510
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,760
dudes?
Like I thought it was sort of, I
511
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,040
guess we're supposed to think
like, oh, it's good because she
512
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,040
has an extra super special role.
But to me it felt kind of like,
513
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440
but I thought she was just like
a fighter like with the dudes.
514
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,320
Do you know what I mean?
Like I'm not sure why she has to
515
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,720
be a behind the scenes.
Side quest.
516
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,400
Side quest person.
Yeah, exactly.
517
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,120
So I I didn't, I don't think
that's necessarily bad.
518
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,920
I think it was actually an
attempt to give her maybe like a
519
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,120
bigger role because she's the
only girl.
520
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,360
So I don't, I don't think it's
like a bad thing.
521
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:42,080
I just to me, it's like when
playing the game, she was equal
522
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,880
with the guys, right?
And that was the cool thing
523
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,720
about her.
And I kind of don't like this
524
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,760
idea that, oh, we have to take
her and give her this like it's
525
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,160
because of her dad.
Like she can't just fight for
526
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,160
the glory like the dudes do, you
know what I mean?
527
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,600
But that just bothers me.
I don't know why.
528
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,200
But what is word Sarah?
I did sort of feel like like
529
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040
they're doing this intrinsically
tying her so much more to all of
530
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,760
M Bison scenes just because they
want big, just because they
531
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,720
didn't want to like like as an
economy, as almost like an
532
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,680
economy, a storytelling kind of
decision of like, well, if we
533
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,840
just have her tied more tied
story wise to M Bison, then we
534
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,560
can just accomplish all of their
the scenes they wanted to show
535
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,040
to show that, you know, that she
has a personal vendetta against
536
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480
him and get that, you know, but
at the same time, you're right.
537
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,080
It is a ship from from what we
saw her before as more the a
538
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,560
separate party.
You know, like, like at least in
539
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,120
the that original movies case.
I don't know about the Canon of
540
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,480
the games per SE, where where
she sort of had she was trying
541
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,240
to investigate this thing and I
guess they more or less still
542
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,720
have her in a news van of sorts,
but it's not it's not the same
543
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,400
thing.
You know, they they definitely
544
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,760
really shifted with her And but
at the same time, the thing
545
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,960
does, you know, not to jump too
far ahead necessarily, but I
546
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,600
feel like a lot of that was set
up for future things too,
547
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,040
because there's so much
unresolved with them.
548
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,840
Bison and there's obviously, you
know, movies like this, they're
549
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,800
always are leaving the door open
for where they could potentially
550
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,600
take it.
But I mean.
551
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,080
You're saying leave the door
open?
552
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,720
This straight up.
Back to the future, to that.
553
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Yeah, very Into the spider
verse.
554
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,520
No, Across the spider verse kind
of ending.
555
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Didn't even try to wrap it up.
But we're definitely not at the
556
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,160
ending yet here, so let's.
So let's get to the next part of
557
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,400
the plot here.
Ryu initially declined to
558
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
participate in the tournament,
but Akuma threatens to destroy
559
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,520
the tournament's winner unless
Ryu enters.
560
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Fearing that Ken will win, Ryu
travels to Metro out to dissuade
561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,000
his brother, who refused to
listen.
562
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600
Rio defeats a Honda to take his
place in the tournament.
563
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,560
The night before the
competition, the fighters brawl
564
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,560
in a bar before Bison soldiers
incapacitate them and take Ryu
565
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,480
to Bison's Spire.
This, this is I think when the
566
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,240
movie is at its best.
I think the fight against a
567
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,480
Honda is so fun.
I love that it's it's in a bath
568
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,480
house, which is his stage from
the game.
569
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,880
I love that you got the hundred
hand slap the flying head butt.
570
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960
Yeah, but like I also.
Love all in Japanese too by.
571
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,080
The way that's what I was going
to say, yeah, is that, you know,
572
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,960
they, they previous, because the
previous one, he was a Samoan
573
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,000
actor, I believe in 1994.
Yeah, I believe some sort of
574
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,360
yeah.
Yeah yeah, cuz he yeah, but but
575
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,240
and Hawaiian.
Right.
576
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040
More so, but it's nice that I
mean, particularly to have
577
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,480
Andrew Koji, not only because he
can speak Japanese so well, but
578
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,200
I mean Andrew Koji, I don't know
if you guys were familiar with
579
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040
him before this.
The main thing I knew him from
580
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,360
was the lead in warrior the the
series that like was actually
581
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,160
originally, you know, conceived
by Bruce Lee and for him to star
582
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,200
in that, that they sort of like,
well, he's like the lead in that
583
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,720
and he's just so damn good.
And also like holy holy shit,
584
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,120
like how well, how ripped he got
for this and and how how well he
585
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600
plays in that scene where he's
just where it's fully in
586
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760
Japanese too.
I couldn't help but feel though,
587
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,520
during that fight scene, as much
as like as I felt like maybe in
588
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,440
general with this movie, it was
so beautiful in its fanservice.
589
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,680
But ultimately, like that was in
Honda's entire role in this was
590
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,080
to be just like a guy that where
you could just replace in a
591
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,920
tournament where ultimately it
didn't even matter.
592
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,200
So it's like, I wouldn't fault
somebody who isn't a fan of the
593
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,360
game to come out of it
afterwards going like, So what
594
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,160
was the bathhouse lean for?
Like what?
595
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560
This random guy who never said
something otherwise, But to the
596
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040
rest of us, we're like, Oh my
God, it's a Honda and he's doing
597
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,480
the thousand hand slap.
He's even doing that like head
598
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,000
charts thing he does.
Yeah.
599
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,640
It was such good fun.
Isn't this though, kind of a
600
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520
staple of a lot of Kung Fu
movies?
601
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040
Like Timmy Mike, I don't know if
you've watched a lot of Kung Fu
602
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,920
movies, but like I know Timmy is
a big aficionado of them and he
603
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080
was describing how a lot of Kung
Fu movies have these really
604
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,800
wacky opponents and it's like
kind of 1 kooky encounter after
605
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320
the other.
So like, I kind of feel like if
606
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,280
you weren't a fan of the games,
you'd be like, oh, remember that
607
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,960
scene where he fights a sumo
wrestler in the bathhouse?
608
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,560
Like, that was fun.
Yeah, I.
609
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,640
Can't help but feel like, yeah,
there's got to be at least some
610
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,520
people who like, even if you
don't know these characters, you
611
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,360
can have fun with it in the way
that I've had with movies where
612
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,320
like, I don't know the source
material, but like, that was a
613
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,240
cool ass light, you know, so.
Yeah, yeah.
614
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,400
I think this actually has within
this section, this has the my
615
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,240
two favorite bits out of fights
and they are totally like very
616
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:28,160
different.
OK. 1 is the Ryu and Ken sort of
617
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,360
fights.
Oh yeah, in the hotel room.
618
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,880
And I think partially because
it's it feels like relatively
619
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,480
long.
It felt like it was longer
620
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,440
shots.
I don't know if it was, but it
621
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,080
it didn't feel like it was a
bunch of quick shots of just
622
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,960
like Ryu just avoiding
everything Ken's doing.
623
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,200
And like, that feels like the
kind of thing that comes out of
624
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,480
other martial arts movies of
that, like that kind of scene of
625
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,320
someone just showing like, I am
so in control of this that I
626
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
don't have to try to hit you.
I can just let you do this.
627
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Back in his chair like he
doesn't even get up.
628
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
I like using your momentum
against you.
629
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Isn't that like in the karate?
Yeah.
630
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Or whatever.
Yeah.
631
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360
But it's also, it's such good
storytelling though, because
632
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880
like you're establishing what
kind of man Ryu is, You're
633
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,520
establishing what kind of man
Ken is, You're establishing
634
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360
their different skill levels or
I guess perceived skill levels.
635
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,360
We'll get to that in a second.
And.
636
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040
I like how dynamic that is in
their particular story
637
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,840
throughout it.
And obviously right off at the
638
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,840
at the beginning with the
information you have, you're
639
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,480
like, oh, Ryu was the star
student of their master.
640
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360
Even though Ken is obviously an
incredibly capable fighter, Ryu
641
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,000
has full control in that scene.
He's he's shown to be the the
642
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,080
person who who was capable of
doing the Hadouken first.
643
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,440
And like, you know, but then,
yeah, as we'll get into it
644
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,080
later, like the dynamic of how
that changes and how the the
645
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,680
twist that comes ahead too.
And so.
646
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Yeah, so Mike, was your was your
other favorite scene, the bar
647
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,000
scene?
It's a specific shot in the bar
648
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,920
scene, which is it kind of just
goes into brawl just because
649
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,400
like I don't think it's well
motivated for a lot of that.
650
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Like some of it has caught, has
triggers in a lot of it seems
651
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,640
like, well, I guess we're doing
a fight scene now.
652
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Understandably, it was their way
to shoehorn in, you know,
653
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160
certain fanservice with other
characters.
654
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Like we never see Zangie fight
except, well, yeah, except for
655
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,240
except for that scene and and
the way he gets involved is
656
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,920
because they knock over his
table.
657
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
That's.
Actually that bit, actually I
658
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,800
was more OK with the other bit.
A lot of the other bits felt
659
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,520
like it's like, well, I guess
we're just going to have a fight
660
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,440
now.
Like he at least had a reason to
661
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,080
be mad.
But that I think it is when Ken
662
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,480
gets kicked and then it goes
kind of like slow MO reaction
663
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,360
shots of everybody else in the
club of just everyone that just
664
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,000
in shock.
And the shot of Zengeef, who is
665
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,440
still looking at shock.
And you can, it goes to him like
666
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000
in a punch, and he's look up in
shock and then he just continues
667
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,560
to punch while distracted.
And in shock, that was the
668
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,320
probably the Best Song Geef
moment in that.
669
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,400
But at the same time, yeah, on a
very basic level, as much as
670
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,199
this is a video game adaptation,
of course of a fighting game, it
671
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,159
is also a martial arts movie
and.
672
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:15,400
And you got to have fights in
there and a lot of times with
673
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,679
with the surplus of characters
that you like and you at least
674
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,040
intrinsically root for.
So, you know, on a very basic
675
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560
level, a lot of this is an
excuse to how do we frame this
676
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600
in a way that makes sense?
And it's fun and you're going to
677
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,560
be on board with it without
rolling your eyes too much.
678
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,159
And if anything, the the bar
fight scene was a little bit
679
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,280
like, OK, you didn't really.
I mean, this is just for the fun
680
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,880
of it, right?
Because the way they just have
681
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,639
it be the smorgasbord of a of a
fight.
682
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:46,560
But yeah, I mean, otherwise it's
I feel like a lot of them, a lot
683
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,199
of those those fight scenes are
are well justified for for for a
684
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,920
movie of what it is.
Everyone's going into this
685
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,800
knowing that's an adaptation of
a fighting game.
686
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,600
You're going to have fight
scenes, you're going to have
687
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,760
moments or like, we was just
going to show up and be like, I
688
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,400
want your place in the fight.
Well, then you're going to have
689
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,840
to fight me.
And that they fight, you know,
690
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,800
and I remember leaning over to
Ryan to like at some point going
691
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,920
like, wow, those are some very,
very tightly well tucked towels
692
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,800
until the moment that he Honda's
gets ripped off and he's like,
693
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,440
but like they're they're going
no holds barred at each other.
694
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,320
And somehow their towels, their
towels are still holding.
695
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,040
But yeah.
And the way, but also the way
696
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,840
they use that environment too,
where like where really like
697
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,040
douses the fresh water on the on
the, on the hot stones and stuff
698
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,760
like that.
And like using that as cover.
699
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,280
That was that would be cool.
So I I wanna talk about this
700
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,880
subtext of the movie because the
movie was like it felt way more
701
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,440
gay coded than I expected.
The like E Honda gets his wet
702
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520
ass slapped with a towel and
there's like a booty jiggle
703
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,280
shot.
And then the one that shocked me
704
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,480
the most was Cody Rhodes
portrayal of Guile as being a
705
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,840
super obsessed.
With the Vega.
706
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,800
And all kinds of dudes and like,
he gives a beer and he's like,
707
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,640
suck on this and like if
anything.
708
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
I really appreciated that
because that's sort of like, you
709
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,840
know, in combination with the
moments that are very, very
710
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,080
thirsty for like, like the Chun
leasing we were talking about
711
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,240
before too.
It did it like, yeah, like if
712
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,600
anything, I found that
refreshing as almost like a
713
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000
counter counteract to all that
too.
714
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,400
And it all got laughs every time
those there were those moments
715
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,240
is like, Oh well, all right, the
movie went there.
716
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,400
There was also that bit between
Dan and Guy where Dan's like
717
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:35,480
there wasn't so much oxygen
between you and me and he just
718
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,680
just inhales as he moves closer.
And it is just like, I don't
719
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,520
know where this movie thinks
it's going with this.
720
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,960
But like, and also I I was very
happy to like the character of
721
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,000
Dan so much in this movie.
He had really good comedic
722
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,520
timing and good delivery.
So after that scene, he like
723
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,280
kind of looks at the camera goes
like that was weird.
724
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,080
That was really weird.
That was.
725
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,640
And like, I think my favorite
Dan joke is when he's in the
726
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,400
hotel room and he can't get his
key to work and it's just so.
727
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,320
So Jabo coded Vega.
He's got all the bags.
728
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Yeah.
Vega was so Kyle coded Kyle, if
729
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,600
you're listening, we love you,
but you should have dressed up
730
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800
as that guy.
So do we.
731
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880
All look like they're just
having so much fun with these
732
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,720
characters too.
Like especially in that bar
733
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:21,160
fight scene.
I think that that's the first
734
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,280
time we really see Dulcim and
like, Oh my God, like how what a
735
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,800
performance that was too.
He just and he looks like he's
736
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,640
just having the time of his
life.
737
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,800
The way he's also just like,
calling out to Ken to like their
738
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,480
old buddies.
Yeah, yeah.
739
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160
These these actors, look,
they're having a lot of fun.
740
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
I think I agree with Jabo that I
think this was the most fun part
741
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,960
of the movie.
Like because this like to me, I
742
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,440
was like, oh, they're setting
up.
743
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,200
There's going to be this whole
tournament and we're going to
744
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,480
see all of my faves are going to
fight each other and like this
745
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,600
is just gravy.
Like now I get to see EE Honda
746
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,840
fight in the sauna and then I
get to see all my faves bar
747
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,120
fight like before even the real
fight.
748
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,880
Like, to me, it was just like,
oh, this is just like, you're
749
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,000
putting like icing on top of the
cake, right?
750
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Because I get we haven't even
gotten to the real fight yet,
751
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,400
which like purportedly was going
to be this tournament.
752
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,640
This.
Is the best run of the movie.
753
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,960
Exactly.
Well, and also just one one
754
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960
quick note too, the about the
that E Honda fight, because I
755
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,080
feel like that's the first fight
where, as I recall, where
756
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,280
somebody does a signature move
from the games while saying the
757
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
thing that they do.
And you see like rue, just
758
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,800
through the midst of the steam
that he just created, do his
759
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,680
hurricane kick and you hear the
that's a Maki San Pooh kick.
760
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,240
Oh man, and it sounds like the
game they even like.
761
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,960
If anything, I kind of respect
that.
762
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,160
I don't know what they sampled
the original audio files, but it
763
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,920
sounded much more like the audio
files than the actor playing
764
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,880
them on screen almost, and
almost felt like so almost felt
765
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,520
like a subtly auditorily
breaking the 4th wall when they
766
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,400
did that.
But I just like, I don't know, I
767
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,160
love.
It like they took the old one
768
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,080
and like punched it up.
Yeah, that's what I.
769
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,800
Thought.
And you like but it.
770
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Was a nice touch.
And you like the needle drops,
771
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,440
Sarah?
Like you were pretty taken with
772
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,280
this whole soundtrack I think.
Yes, I thought it was so smart
773
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,520
to just do straight 90s bangers
because they know like the
774
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,640
people who grew up with this,
like they're probably old.
775
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Yeah, it was kinda cool too, but
I didn't, I didn't know until
776
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,680
the movie that that it was being
that it was a period piece.
777
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Cuz I mean, now that I think
back on the trailers, yeah, now
778
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,800
that I think back on the
trailers, yeah, I can see the
779
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,400
signs of that.
But also, you know, we have
780
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,080
these over the top characters
and that's not how people
781
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,040
necessarily hung out and dressed
in in the in you know, 93.
782
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,120
But like, if anything, that was
a perfect opportunity then for
783
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,480
them to play 90s era music of
the needle drops are great.
784
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,840
The score, like the way that
they I felt like they they
785
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,640
without going too heavy into
just a recognizable things from
786
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,280
the games.
They just found those key
787
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,160
moments to play like Giles theme
reuse theme camis that you know,
788
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,280
like it's just like it's it's.
The the music fan service in
789
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,760
this was so good And and and
just I thought thought like
790
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,000
really well blended in amongst
the needle drops character like
791
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
signature themes in the game.
You know, it was yeah, that
792
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400
guile theme when you first hear
that, I was like, that's
793
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,880
awesome.
They're, they know what they're
794
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,800
doing, you know?
So let's get to the next part of
795
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,520
the plot, though.
Here.
796
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,000
So go, Mike.
Since the music cut has been
797
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,520
brought up, I actually found it
frustratingly distracting that
798
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,920
they can't.
It felt to me like they only
799
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,480
went halfway with with the idea
in that they were like, OK,
800
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,240
we're going to do some amount of
like 90s music, but they made
801
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:51,520
like they make this big deal
like it's 1993 and then you
802
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,920
know, who let the dogs out isn't
isn't like a walk out song.
803
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,240
Say, I didn't notice a few of
those songs were like 2000,
804
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,480
maybe 2000.
Like that, right?
805
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,440
That was like 90 like that when?
My kids were little, like, I
806
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,480
don't know.
Yeah.
807
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,480
There were a couple of those
that I was like, yeah, this is
808
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,760
not necessarily.
And this is not 93.
809
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Yeah, exactly.
It's almost a decade late, but
810
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560
at the same time, I, I think
moments like that, like you
811
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,320
mentioned, you know who let the
dogs out?
812
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,200
I was like it occurred to me
that at least the way it the
813
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,040
scene is played, that that could
be soundtrack rather than
814
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,480
diegetic.
But at the same time it's like I
815
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,720
kind of was I'm kind of with
you.
816
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,400
Like of like that would have
been nice if they were
817
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,040
consistently like this.
This is all music from at the
818
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,640
latest 1993.
Yeah, it's like 4 Non Blondes,
819
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,400
which obviously gets beat their
their song What's Up, which the
820
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,360
song everybody thinks is called
What's Going On that what year
821
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,440
is that song?
That song was like. 95 or
822
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,480
something.
It was spring of 93, which would
823
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,240
be alright if not for the fact
no, no, no, hold on.
824
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Except it is shown to be a thing
that like Ken and Wright.
825
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Already on.
Karaoke six years earlier.
826
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
So it's I was like, I was just
barely under the what?
827
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920
Now only is it anachronistic,
but then you have a point where
828
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,840
it's just Ken sadly singing it.
So you now have it being sent
829
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,840
sung anachronistically by only
one person who is blonde.
830
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,880
Sure.
Wow, he's been waiting for like
831
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,760
no no 12 hours.
Like that joke?
832
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480
No, I remember that thought even
crossing my mind when I was
833
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,600
watching that.
But you know, and and also just
834
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,000
the fact that Noah Centineo, who
is awesome as Ken, his natural
835
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,720
hair color is is like a dark
brown.
836
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:40,200
So he's technically a non blonde
the but but if anything, the
837
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,080
other quick side note, like as
somebody who loved masters of
838
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,560
the universe this year, which
had a very appropriate and
839
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,120
relevant needle droplet, it
really at the very least four
840
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,480
non blondes and and having
what's up in that movie made
841
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,200
perfect sense given the meme of
he man set to that song.
842
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,400
So I was like, oh, they're doing
it again this year.
843
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,240
But you know, it's such a great
song that I love the way that
844
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,200
it's woven into this movie.
I think.
845
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,120
The the.
Key moment towards the end where
846
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,320
the where the characters are
singing it.
847
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,560
I was singing right along to it.
Yeah, I think it accomplished
848
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,800
what it wanted, which is it got
people our age to be like, Oh
849
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,680
yeah, you know, I don't think
they were going like realism,
850
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,200
right.
And as far as like that goes.
851
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Yeah, I don't think this is
based on a true story.
852
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,880
So I'm willing to accept that
maybe that they they were
853
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,720
listening to that song in what I
guess 1987 in their universes.
854
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:42,080
They just got a little earlier.
Yeah, we could shoot fireballs
855
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,760
from our palms.
But wait a minute.
856
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,720
That movie.
Doesn't count and we burn on
857
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,160
blinds for spot out.
Like I remember people like
858
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,920
analyzing the MCU too.
Like I can't remember what song,
859
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,720
but I saw somewhere online that
like, you know, because it's a
860
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,720
certain pop song gets referenced
in the MCU in some movie or
861
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:04,200
something in universe and they
timed it to when it released.
862
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,240
Now it's like it was it would
have been right after Thanos a
863
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,320
snap.
So it confirms that this musical
864
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,000
artist survived the snap in the
MCU.
865
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,200
It's like, well, OK, but it's
the Marvel Universe.
866
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Also, it could have been a
posture posthumous release
867
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,080
right?
Is that kind of posthumous if
868
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,600
they've been snapped or is it a
different term?
869
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,280
If.
They've been snapped.
870
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,000
They still existed, right?
So like they could have still
871
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,720
music or do they are they gone
from existence like they should
872
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:33,120
just?
They're forward.
873
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,080
It doesn't.
It doesn't work.
874
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Remove them from the past.
OK, just making sure, I guess.
875
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,320
You know, I should have asked
that many years ago, you know?
876
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,960
I first watched asking a tough
question.
877
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Here.
Yeah, exactly.
878
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,640
Now I'm asking what you asking
is now Sarah or you?
879
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,800
Well, it's a complicated thing
about like a, a, a fake universe
880
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,600
like this or like Street Fighter
or the Marvel Universe that
881
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,000
references pop culture, things
that we have in our world.
882
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:57,520
Because it's like, wait a
minute.
883
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,520
So does that mean like when they
reference the Big Lebowski and
884
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,080
and and Thor like, then like
does the guy who played the Big
885
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,440
Lebowski just like everyone
talks about how much he looks
886
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,520
like Obadiah Stain, you know,
so.
887
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,720
So let's let's let's run through
some matchups in this movie
888
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:13,440
here.
Yeah.
889
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,160
So this is kind of where, like,
the tournament begins.
890
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,600
It says Vegas of Vegas, Vega
defeats Guile, which I don't
891
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,160
think you actually see.
Actually, I know you don't see
892
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,040
it because there's a great gag
at the end where Cody Rhodes has
893
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,760
three horrific scars across his
cheek.
894
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,920
And Dan goes, guy, what
happened?
895
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,560
He's like, well, I don't know
who in the tournament uses
896
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,040
claws, Dan.
Yeah, Vega uses claws.
897
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,080
Getting vaccine like.
It was Cody.
898
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,480
Cody stole the show in this
scene, so it was so good.
899
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,040
I'm a little sad that we didn't
get to see that fight, but it
900
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,160
was great to just to see see it
framed in that way.
901
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,600
It was interesting also because
it has mostly just Guile
902
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,120
complaining about it and Eric
Andre's character just telling
903
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,760
him to shut up.
What you has some funny bits,
904
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:05,200
but also kind of is like it's a
giant arena and he's one guy
905
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,200
over there complaining.
Like you can ignore that really
906
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,600
easily, but.
Eric Andre's character had, I
907
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,120
thought, the best joke in the
movie where because he's he's
908
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,760
imprisoned, he Bison forces him
to be his personal announcer.
909
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,280
And it's really sad in like a
like North Korea kind of
910
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,440
situation.
But like when he comes back on
911
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,880
the air and clearly haven't been
tortured for months, he's like,
912
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,920
I'm sorry, Lord Bison, you are
an appropriate size for your age
913
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,360
and height or whatever,
something like that.
914
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Because like, the movie actually
acknowledges that M Bison
915
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,720
doesn't really have a physically
imposing body and he's so
916
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,680
insecure about it that he like
needs to suck the suck the male
917
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,520
juice out of all the other male
characters in the movie.
918
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,160
But then, you know, he's like, I
want to positive that comment I
919
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,960
made.
I was on a new medication.
920
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,280
Please forgive me.
And the the throwaway joke about
921
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,520
saying something when you're on
new meds made me spit my drink
922
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,240
all over Jackie.
And like it was.
923
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,440
Put your drink on me too for.
The I'm sorry, Sarah, it's.
924
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
OK though, because I was
laughing at the joke as well
925
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000
because.
It was a spit take worthy joke.
926
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,040
It really was funny, yeah.
At least on the note of that
927
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,440
character, I love how you know,
because obviously he does not
928
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480
like Ken.
And there's that exchange later
929
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,880
where he talks about like,
because, because he's the the
930
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920
announcer, I guess, or that the
MC or, you know, like calling
931
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,240
out the fights.
And they're like where Ken calls
932
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,560
him out for, like, you're
supposed to be impartial, you
933
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,360
know?
But he makes it very clear in
934
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,760
the way he announces them out on
stage who he's rooting for us.
935
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,960
That one's at some point.
Why do I keep betting?
936
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Against him, yeah, but how
inspired to make the round one
937
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
fight voice a character in your
movie?
938
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Like you know what I mean?
Ken defeats ball rug.
939
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,400
Big moment for me because I've
always wanted to see like a
940
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,960
screen accurate or a game
accurate show where you can.
941
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,160
And I love the moment where Kens
like losing and he's remembering
942
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,760
the advice where you gave him
and that's what he uses to get
943
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,880
the win.
I'm like, okay, good
944
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,080
storytelling.
And I love that they saved that
945
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,840
move just for him in that
moment.
946
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,280
Like you never see Ryu do 1.
I don't think so.
947
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,400
No, in the big final fight scene
he does the Super.
948
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,800
Trooper one yeah, but also like
showing moments like that, which
949
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,000
although that it's not implied,
like that's the first time he's
950
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,440
done the short you can like you
see you know, not to jump too
951
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,080
far ahead, but like that that
can because of the way they they
952
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,760
set this up too with with the
the opening scene that Mike was
953
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,120
talking about between the
between him and Ryu that Ken is
954
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Ken's getting his edge, you know
and and and so and tapping into
955
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,520
the same things that Ryu has you
know, yeah, yeah, because he
956
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,040
because they established yeah he
Dan and Ken all had the OR sorry
957
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,400
he, Dan and Ryu all had the same
master yeah.
958
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:50,920
Yeah, so at at this point in the
movie, Bison is sniffing Ryu's
959
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,520
feet.
And just like they'd had this
960
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,800
whole thing where like M Bison
gets like orgasmic pleasure from
961
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,360
other people's pain, like people
will get punched or burned and
962
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,520
he'll kind of roll his eyes back
and his lip quivers.
963
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,280
And I was like, OK, this is
like, this is kind of low
964
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,000
hanging fruit.
But I like that you had like a
965
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,960
new take on the character.
It wasn't all just like an
966
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,440
attempt to be Raul Julia or to
play it super straight.
967
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,800
But he.
There was also a bit in there
968
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,400
which I don't know if this is
what it was meant to be going.
969
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,280
For.
But when and Bison has Rayu
970
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:30,960
imprisoned, he basically invites
him to eat snails.
971
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:38,160
OK.
And for how this was playing
972
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,640
around with things you can see
is leaning towards like
973
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:49,440
sexuality as a topic.
There's a fairly famous bit out
974
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,920
of Ben Hur about like eating
snails, where apparently it is
975
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,520
meant to be.
The way the conversation goes is
976
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,600
meant to allude to, I think.
But I think bisexuality in a way
977
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,160
that like, I think Charlton has
something like in the movie
978
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,240
didn't know it was doing.
And you basically had this thing
979
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:13,520
like, yeah, there's a whole
extra tone going on here that at
980
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,080
the time was quasi subversive
that the way this did.
981
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,680
And I'm like, this is a weird
enough thing to focus in on, but
982
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,160
I'm like, this feels like
someone was inspired by that to
983
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,360
throw this in here.
There was like a parallel
984
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,720
conversation happening, yeah,
kind of between the characters
985
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:30,080
and then between the movie and
the audience.
986
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,920
Fascinating.
I didn't pick up on that at all.
987
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,840
Yeah, for a movie that's another
To die before, a movie that, as
988
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,280
Jeremy astutely pointed out
before, is at least at certain
989
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,680
times, kind of gay coded.
It's interesting to see.
990
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Maybe that was a little bit of
the subtext that they intended
991
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,680
with that scene, but.
Yeah, I think there was
992
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,120
something about like some people
like snails and some people like
993
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,880
something else.
And I like both kind of.
994
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,200
The same first scene too that
you're talking about where he
995
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,160
rolls his eyes back and is like
getting pleasure it.
996
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,480
It looks like he's getting a BJ.
I'm just.
997
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Saying right I.
Noticed that like the way it was
998
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,600
shot, I was like, whoa, that was
like super sexual, right?
999
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Yeah.
And then they did it like two
1000
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,200
more times and I was like, oh, I
think we're they're just showing
1001
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,120
that he's like a sadist.
But the first time it was very
1002
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,760
much shot like, and I forget who
it was, but they were like
1003
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,680
kneeling before him and I was
like, this looks really, really
1004
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,160
sexual.
Well, so there is this whole
1005
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,320
aspect of the Bison character
that is kind of like Epstein
1006
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,440
coded like that because as Sarah
pointed out in the group chat
1007
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,080
this morning, she was expecting
there to be revealed that Cami
1008
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,720
was under the control by some
potion or something.
1009
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,000
And I don't know if you guys
caught it, but when Chen Lee's
1010
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,560
doing her investigation, there's
a paper on the cork board that
1011
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,040
says doll program.
And in the games, Bison
1012
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,520
brainwashes beautiful women into
being his like assassin slash
1013
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,520
courtesans kind of.
So it it is very much like
1014
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,920
there's always been that sort of
like sexual menace to Bison that
1015
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,080
they never really put in movies
until this one.
1016
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,760
So this gets us into the scene
where Ryu refuses to use his
1017
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,800
dark power because Bison.
He wants Ryu to tap into his
1018
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,560
most evil self so he can suck
the bad juju out of him and
1019
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,800
power his own body with it.
And when Ryu refuses, he puts
1020
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,440
him in a prison and says that
you know, OK, you'll have to
1021
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,680
unleash your evil self to defeat
this beast.
1022
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,800
And then we get Jason Momoa as
Blanca.
1023
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,760
Sarah, did the Blanca scene work
for you?
1024
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,280
Because we've been waiting to
see a Blanca Blanca for a while.
1025
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,800
Well, I really appreciated the
fact that it was like it looked
1026
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,120
like the game like with the
prisoners and the.
1027
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:34,800
Kids.
The background.
1028
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,120
I was like, OK, I really respect
that, but I was annoyed with at
1029
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,800
this point in the movie, I felt
like the whole first third or
1030
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,680
maybe 25% was setting up this
fight.
1031
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,760
And so I was really looking
forward to the fight in the
1032
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,640
bracket and seeing the win loss
record and I kind of wanted to
1033
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,400
stick with the fight.
And it just to me, it's also
1034
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,600
didn't make sense narratively
that like Ryu was like, I'm
1035
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,160
going to fight a Honda to get in
this competition.
1036
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,280
OK, but now I'm out of this
competition.
1037
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,600
I'm.
Like and ultimately it didn't
1038
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,200
even matter.
The competition didn't matter at
1039
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,800
all.
No, it didn't matter at all.
1040
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,280
There was no stakes.
I I think there was a better
1041
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,720
version of this movie where you
just raise the stakes of the
1042
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,240
competition as you go.
And I kind of like that they
1043
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,880
showed like, oh, everyone has a
different view of this
1044
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,720
competition and thinks it will
bring them something different,
1045
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:36,560
right?
Like Ryu has a different reason
1046
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,080
for wanting to compete than Ken.
Ken is the least mature, right?
1047
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,520
He just wants to prove himself.
Whereas like Ryu and like Chun
1048
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,280
Li have like a higher purpose
and being at the competition and
1049
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,040
I like that.
I'm fine with that.
1050
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,600
Like everyone kind of having a
different understanding of it.
1051
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,640
But I thought it would be more
fun to see that play out on the
1052
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,080
stage that they set up, which
was like, OK, this competition
1053
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:04,040
is where all this will play out.
Yeah, I feel, yeah, on some
1054
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,520
level it's it's, it's, I mean,
that's a framework of why you
1055
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,920
can have a story built around so
many people fighting that
1056
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,280
there's some sort of competition
at the core of it you.
1057
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Know exactly.
And I was really looking forward
1058
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,600
to that and I think that going
sideways and Oh well, now we're
1059
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,120
going to have this private cage
match with Blanca.
1060
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,320
To me it didn't.
I didn't like it as well as if I
1061
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,000
would have liked if that scene
took place, maybe when someone
1062
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,440
won and it was like, well, now
you got to fight this guy,
1063
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,120
right?
Because then it would have been
1064
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,960
in the context of the
competition.
1065
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:42,560
Or maybe it could have just been
before they could even join,
1066
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,880
they had to do that.
I don't know.
1067
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,960
I just, to me, there was too
much, there was too much
1068
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,120
narrative darting about and I
really wanted to stick with the
1069
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,360
competition.
And I got annoyed at this point
1070
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,040
in the movie because I wanted to
see the bracket.
1071
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,760
Right.
Yeah.
1072
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,360
No, I feel you.
Who's losing ultimately?
1073
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,200
Like I see what you mean, Sarah.
Like, if anything, I mean, I'm a
1074
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,520
little amused too, because it
reminds me of the of what our
1075
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,960
friend and our friend Lisa, like
criticizes about the first of
1076
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,760
the of the two new Mortal Kombat
movies, where like Mortal Kombat
1077
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,360
is also based on a fighting game
and, and it's structured, at
1078
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,680
least story wise around some
sort of big tournament.
1079
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,600
But none of the fighting in the
first Mortal Kombat movie is
1080
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,280
actually part of said
tournament.
1081
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,960
Safer.
Maybe the flashback scene at the
1082
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,360
beginning or the intro scene.
I guess it's not flashing back.
1083
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,440
But then for, for a story that's
all built around the tournament,
1084
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,720
which is the, the, their story
explanation for why all these
1085
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,080
people are fighting each other,
They actually don't use that
1086
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,920
device that much or in that
movie, not at all.
1087
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,600
And so, but ultimately, the way
my, my counterpoint to, to, to
1088
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,640
when I, you know, argue about
this with Lisa, at least
1089
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,560
particularly about that Mortal
Kombat movie, is that like, but
1090
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,840
this is still a movie about
people who fight each other.
1091
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,240
And, and they're still even if
there's not in that framework,
1092
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,120
you're getting plenty of that.
You're getting that with this
1093
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,760
movie.
But I'll well, at the same time,
1094
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,760
I, I see what you mean about
like, especially with how much
1095
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,600
they frame it with those
brackets.
1096
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,200
And ultimately, if I may jump a
little bit ahead, Joe is the one
1097
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,800
who wins this tournament.
I.
1098
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Don't even see him.
You never see him fight until
1099
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,680
the end.
I ultimately I I still laugh and
1100
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,120
like the way they framed it that
way, because you get that moment
1101
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,120
where like even the guy who won
the tournament at the center of
1102
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,880
all this, the one who the one
that really like worked his way
1103
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,440
to get into and ultimately it
didn't matter.
1104
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Like just gets defeated.
So like he's nothing.
1105
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:41,040
And so, you know, I don't know,
like at the same time, I would
1106
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,200
have liked to see some some way
that it factors into the story
1107
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,680
more than ultimately that it
did.
1108
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,080
But I just.
I like competition movies.
1109
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,040
I'm a sucker for.
I love a movie that just has a
1110
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,160
very pure setup like that.
Like that's one of the reasons I
1111
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,720
love Speed Racer.
It's like, will he win the race
1112
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,880
or not?
You know what I mean?
1113
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,760
I love the pop racing sequence
in Star Wars.
1114
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,760
I love the I love Monsters Inc 2
where it's just like, are they
1115
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,800
going to win the competition or
not?
1116
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Like there's something about it
that's just very like, OK, I
1117
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,800
know what the stakes are and
they're very like a lot can
1118
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,760
happen within that framework.
But like, I think I like the
1119
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,720
organization of that.
There's something about it that
1120
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:31,000
appeals to my brain of like, OK,
like I know they want to win the
1121
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,240
the competition.
Like I can relate to that.
1122
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,120
And you can still have that
third act that it's more than
1123
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,080
just the competition, obviously,
but ultimately.
1124
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,560
This would.
Be the competition didn't matter
1125
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,120
at all.
Yeah, I think there's a go
1126
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,600
ahead, Mike.
Can I ask the broader question
1127
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,280
of who the heck Joe is?
Joe is the first, is your first
1128
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,040
opponent in Street Fighter One.
He's the first guy you ever
1129
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,040
fight.
He's essentially Glass Joe like
1130
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,040
Nick and I were talking about is
he inspired by Glass Joe 'cause
1131
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,200
this predate or punch out
predates this movie.
1132
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,440
And so he is, he is laughably
easy to defeat.
1133
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,400
And so it's a, it's, it's really
a joke cause Brian said this is
1134
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,760
just a in joke reference
machine.
1135
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,400
But you know, it's a joke for
the Street Fighter fans who are
1136
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,720
insane enough to have played the
first game because it's very,
1137
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,920
very, very, very, very bad.
The 1st Street Fighter game, I
1138
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,400
can't believe it got a sequel,
let alone a sequel to change the
1139
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,600
industry in the world forever.
But I think there's a version of
1140
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,240
this movie where that was Dan
and Dan entered the tournament
1141
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,080
too, because he wanted to prove
himself to can or something.
1142
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,440
And Dan gets killed at the end
of the movie.
1143
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,440
But I think they realized when
writing it, or maybe even once
1144
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,120
they started shooting it, like
Dan's fairly likable.
1145
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Let's hold on to this character.
I don't.
1146
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,280
I don't think he makes it out of
the second movie alive because
1147
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,840
Sagat is his rival.
And the end of this movie teases
1148
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,560
Sagat entering in the second
film.
1149
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,960
But you're right on some level,
at least with Dan, most
1150
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,640
depictions of Dan depict him as
very much the Joe character,
1151
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,680
right?
The guy who's like, he's the Joe
1152
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,560
character because of how
terrible he is.
1153
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,720
And even though canonically he
is, he does have that same
1154
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,040
master, He does have some trait.
He is a fighter at the very base
1155
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,720
level and the fighter that you
can play as in the games.
1156
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,200
He's just not, you know, like
all his stats are basically the
1157
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,040
worst or something.
Isn't that kind of the ongoing
1158
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,600
thing with him Is that like he's
almost like a handicap.
1159
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,280
If somebody's really good, you
make them play Dan or something.
1160
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,520
At least I know that was the
case with the Super Puzzle
1161
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,480
Fighter where like, you know,
where everyone dropped, you
1162
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,960
know, the the colours and, and
without having to go too far
1163
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,280
into the game mechanics, if
they're all certain blocks of
1164
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,800
colors, you're giving your
opponent the advantage.
1165
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
Dan dropped nothing but red.
So you're actually doing the
1166
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,240
other person a favor when you do
like.
1167
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,880
So.
Yeah, I love the the I love that
1168
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,160
depiction of Dan.
And on some level I lament that,
1169
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,720
you know, you don't see him
being framed as that kind of
1170
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,920
character because Joe's serving
that purpose in this movie.
1171
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,680
But obviously they because Joe,
like, he's completely
1172
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,160
obliterated, right?
Like he's not.
1173
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,280
Yeah, I know he had Bison turns
or Akuma turns him into dust, so
1174
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,040
let's so let's get to that part
of the plot though.
1175
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,640
So Ryu spares Blanca and uses
Hadouken to blow a hole into the
1176
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,960
prison, which frees Blanca.
And then Blanca will savor you
1177
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,040
later and have a great
conversation about like, what
1178
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,880
are you doing Friday?
I'll show you my favorite tree.
1179
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,200
And Rio was like, hey, I kind
of, we don't really know each
1180
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,720
other like that.
Like I don't wanna hang out
1181
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,320
super funny.
It was a fun very Han so like
1182
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,880
coming back in in the last
minute to save the day kind of
1183
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,240
payoff moment.
That felt really nice,
1184
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,120
especially given that, like, Ryu
freed him and even pulled him
1185
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,720
like, look, buddy, like I'll
help you find your mom, you
1186
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,760
know?
But like, my quarrel's not with
1187
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,280
you.
And just, yeah, it was just also
1188
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,280
so funny that moment where he's
just like, he just wants to hang
1189
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,040
out with him.
Just.
1190
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,520
Hang, we're done to thank you.
Very agent.
1191
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,120
I got a Agent Woo from the Ant
Man movies.
1192
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,120
I was like, what are you doing
for like, you know, like when I
1193
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,960
get dinner.
So then Ken and Ryu become
1194
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,600
estranged when Ryu confesses to
having destroyed Ken's
1195
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,880
invitation to the First World
War tournament, essentially
1196
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,800
artificially stunting his
abilities in his martial arts
1197
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,040
career.
This is cute because in the 1st
1198
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,120
Street Fighter game you can only
play as Ryu for the story and
1199
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,560
Ken is always just player 2 for
the versus mode.
1200
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,000
So it's very funny they gave a
canonical reason for why Ken
1201
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,400
wasn't playable.
But to me, this is also where
1202
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,360
I'm like, well, we already know
that like a Nazi is sucking
1203
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,360
people's souls out.
The stakes of You Burned My
1204
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Invitation didn't seem really
shocking enough for like their
1205
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,280
friendship to end.
Like I kind of felt like, oh,
1206
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,440
the stakes.
This movie has weird pacing.
1207
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,080
The stakes are weird.
But ultimately, it's a device to
1208
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,240
make them fight each other in
that moment in the story.
1209
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,440
But I'm a little bit with you of
like, is this the kind of thing
1210
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,120
that would make Ken suddenly
attack like the guy he
1211
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,800
considered the brother like?
Because they just escaped from
1212
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,640
Bison's prison together.
And also like, that was also a
1213
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,800
weird thing because like this
movie, we're going to get to it
1214
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,520
in a second, but it doesn't
really end.
1215
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,240
But we had a whole 20 minute
fight scene against like Ice in
1216
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,280
the prison where they're just
beating up all the masked agents
1217
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,840
or whatever.
And I was like, you probably
1218
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,080
could have cut all that.
That was fun, but it did nothing
1219
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,040
to advance the story.
Were.
1220
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,720
Those supposed to be agents of
the government or were they
1221
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,840
supposed to be Bison's people?
I was very confused by that
1222
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,440
because.
Those are the same because Bison
1223
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,920
controls the government, doesn't
he?
1224
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,160
No, but I wasn't.
Wasn't that Interpol agent sent
1225
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,520
by Chun Li to break them out of
prison?
1226
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,920
I thought that's what they said
because they said, oh, she's the
1227
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,760
author of this little prison
break.
1228
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,120
I was like, OK.
And then one of them, Ken, was
1229
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,560
dressed as one of them.
So I was like oh Chun Li sent
1230
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,320
him in with all these agents but
then he can and Ryu just start
1231
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,600
killing them all so.
Most of them are the guards, and
1232
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,360
he's there disguised as a guard,
yeah.
1233
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,480
OK, so he just infiltrated, but
then why did they say she was
1234
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,640
breaking them out?
Oh, I guess, she said.
1235
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,960
She helped coordinate it.
I, I, I would frame it as like
1236
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,880
the Death Star rescue of like,
yeah, they're dressed as a
1237
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,640
stormtrooper in this scene, but
all the other stormtroopers are
1238
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,640
just Stormtroopers.
I thought it was very confusing
1239
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,640
and I thought that could have
used, I could have used
1240
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,440
something, a tiny little scene
of between Chunli and Ken.
1241
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,400
She could throw them the beret
and be like, put this on, you're
1242
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,760
going in to get your friend out.
You know something because I was
1243
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,480
like, what is?
That I think they wanted to.
1244
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,760
I think they wanted to set up
surprise that Ken decided to go
1245
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:39,200
rescue Ryu and that you wouldn't
know he actually had decided to
1246
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,040
do that until.
That.
1247
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,120
Moment.
I mean, it's sort of the purpose
1248
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,200
ultimately, whether or not it
was set up well enough, you get
1249
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,280
that fun moment of of that, you
know, of 10 sort of redemption.
1250
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,200
They're seeing them finally for
the first time together, wearing
1251
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,960
their signature outfits.
And then and then it's owning a
1252
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,920
whole bunch of people rather
than specific characters.
1253
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,760
So.
But ultimately it's like, yeah,
1254
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,640
was this explained well enough?
I don't know.
1255
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,880
I was having fun just watching
them go out.
1256
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,880
A whole army of people, which
you wouldn't necessarily get in
1257
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,240
this ancient fight.
I suppose so.
1258
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,520
So back at back at the
tournament, kickboxer Joe is
1259
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,880
declared the champion.
Basically all because of
1260
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,960
forfeits and after.
Oh yeah.
1261
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,280
After Ken fails to appear for
the final fight, true to his
1262
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,040
promise, Akuma arrives and
easily kills Joe before
1263
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,560
confronting Ryu.
Overwhelmed by Akuma, Ryu
1264
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,360
transforms into his corrupted
Persona, Dark Ryu, and defeats
1265
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,800
Akuma.
Ken, Chenli, and Ken's manager
1266
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,720
Dan Hibiki attempt to stop Ryu,
but he proves too powerful.
1267
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,080
Ken ultimately incapacitate him
with a flaming Hadouken which he
1268
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,480
unleashes for the first time.
And then the the the Plot
1269
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,320
Summary doesn't mention this but
basically they kill Ryu and then
1270
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,560
what's up him, what up what's
UPS him back to life?
1271
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,400
They sing him back to life,
which I thought was like so
1272
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,440
funny.
And I also just loved the like,
1273
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,880
I particularly laughed at the
moment where like, because Ryu
1274
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,640
was just unconscious for a
moment there.
1275
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,640
He didn't.
He didn't you didn't even
1276
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,200
realize what was happening to
him.
1277
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,360
And even though he you got that
moment where he reveals him,
1278
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,560
like, yeah, I burned your
invitation.
1279
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,160
Like, dude, like you have so
much like he knows the potential
1280
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,520
that Ken has to even be
potentially better than Ryu.
1281
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,360
And in that moment where he's
just like, yeah, dude, I just
1282
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,400
had opened you.
Like, no, really.
1283
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,480
What?
What happened?
1284
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:31,880
The shit out of you.
Why didn't they show a scene of
1285
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,760
them singing that song together?
Because only showed Ken singing
1286
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,880
it, didn't they?
No, there was a flashback in the
1287
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,920
MTV bin.
With both of them.
1288
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Yeah, where they're at karaoke
and then they like someone makes
1289
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,120
some comment and they both jump
off stage and get in a fight.
1290
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,400
And that's when then you get the
shots of them with the, you have
1291
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,040
them singing together and then
you have it lead to a fight.
1292
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,320
And then there's the bit where
they're both getting, like,
1293
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,040
their mug shots taken and Ken's
like, hey, can I keep this?
1294
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,680
Yeah.
OK, because I was like why was
1295
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,440
that important for his song?
For some reason, when I thought
1296
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,000
about the beginning, I only
remembered Ken drunkenly singing
1297
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,040
that himself.
He has a later bit than when
1298
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,080
he's just all alone and he's
singing, but it's part of it is
1299
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,080
it's him missing that moment.
Sure, but I feel like I would
1300
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,440
have thrown in maybe at least
another moment of like that of
1301
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,640
that with them because like,
even though it played for great
1302
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,480
laughs, the fact that Ken goes
right to it when he's like
1303
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,040
trying to figure out if his
friend is dead, you know it's.
1304
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,080
Like, right, Right.
Yeah.
1305
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,600
Maybe 1 little one more little
thing to reinforce.
1306
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,560
That, well, I mean that.
Could be my.
1307
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,720
Attention.
But I feel you like if it had
1308
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,840
been like maybe a little bit
more set up as like something
1309
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:41,840
that was really important to
them.
1310
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,000
But it's still, you know, it's a
nice.
1311
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,600
Moment, I kind of felt like the
the combo of that brawl of like,
1312
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,200
that's their karaoke song
because then Ken sadly singing
1313
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,760
it where he's like, it's clear
he's like not a blonde.
1314
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,760
And then but then also he's
sadly singing it when he thinks
1315
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,080
Ryu is dead.
There's a great moment when all
1316
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,200
the characters start singing for
non Blondes and it cuts to Don
1317
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,600
Sauvage crushed under rubble
singing the song.
1318
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,720
It's no one's helping him.
He's not even really asking for
1319
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,160
help.
It's just such such a funny
1320
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:14,840
comedy.
Beat it.
1321
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,080
Was a nice elevation even from
that beat that they do with and
1322
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,720
and Dan where they they had a
line to it, but they're also
1323
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,080
like you can tell they're
emotionally like because they
1324
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,000
thought that Ree was just died
or something and then they cut
1325
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,400
the dot.
Savage is just yeah, it was a
1326
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,440
nice elevation of that moment.
They're all just singing it
1327
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,000
together because everyone just
feels compelled because who
1328
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,320
doesn't love that song?
I'll say I don't know if Akuma
1329
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,520
worked for me as the big bad
because I felt like the fight
1330
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,440
was so CG that it was kind of
hard for me to get too
1331
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,520
emotionally into it.
So I like the kind of switch
1332
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,400
that like, OK, they Ryu defeats
him and now now they have to
1333
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,880
control Ryu.
And Sarah mentioned like how
1334
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,680
clean it is to have that
tournament structure and how
1335
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,760
bullshit it was that Chun Li
didn't get to be in the
1336
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,280
tournament because that would be
kind of what actual equality
1337
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,880
looks like.
But I do think it's such an
1338
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,960
effective story technique of
showing Ken being impotent with
1339
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,640
his hadookins and then in the
triumphant moment he shoots his
1340
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,480
and all of his is red.
That's like the Ken version and
1341
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,720
like that's that's not how it is
in the games, but it's OK.
1342
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,920
It's still neat.
I liked it.
1343
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,000
So this is where the movie ends.
Much to Sarah's shock and
1344
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,880
surprise, Bison orders Cami and
his troops to retrieve Akuma's
1345
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,640
body.
Cami destroys Chen Lee's van
1346
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,920
with a rocket launcher.
Which like, was the van a thing
1347
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,880
when they blew it up?
They acted like they wanted me
1348
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,479
to be sad for it.
They.
1349
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Did they really did?
Yeah, and I.
1350
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,399
Kyle Mooney's like TV van or
whatever.
1351
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,359
Something so it.
But like Kyle Mooney.
1352
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,520
Spot it was, yeah, like their
little investigatory van or
1353
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,359
whatever, but.
So that prevents the heroes from
1354
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:48,160
pursuing them.
The following day, Ryu, Ken,
1355
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,319
Chunley, and Dan leave Shadowlou
with Guile and Dolson providing
1356
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:53,680
transportation.
They're basically hitchhiking.
1357
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,520
And I think that's for some
reason, my favorite shot of the
1358
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,160
whole movie is just Guile
driving with Dulcim riding
1359
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,520
shotgun.
And they're just like, what's
1360
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,120
up, fuckers?
Like, it was like, it was so
1361
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,399
good.
I just love when characters feel
1362
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:07,600
like they know each other and
there's a back story and
1363
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,120
friendships there.
Yeah.
1364
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,640
And then meanwhile, A scarred
Sagat receives a visit from
1365
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,399
Bison and his remaining
lieutenants.
1366
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,920
So this, it doesn't even wrap up
any of the Bison plot.
1367
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:24,080
He defeats Chun Li.
And I do think I like the fight
1368
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,640
with Chun Li and Junie and she
takes them both out and like
1369
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,399
Kyle's up against the wall and
Chun Li, Sarah is just kicking
1370
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,479
him in the face over and over
again and his mask is shattering
1371
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,960
from the kicks.
But then I also get why, like,
1372
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,560
if you want Bison to be this
recurring villain, you kind of
1373
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,479
can't have him lose in the first
movie.
1374
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,319
We need to be like, scared of
him, so he does the big psycho
1375
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:44,800
crusher.
I don't know Sarah, though I
1376
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,840
like Raul Julia's psycho crusher
better.
1377
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,560
The finalists.
And then, yeah, the movie just
1378
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,960
ends with all the dangling
threads.
1379
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,320
I.
Mean for what it's worth, I feel
1380
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,040
like it gives some degree of
closure to at least this story.
1381
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,960
I mean, obviously they're
they're leaving some some
1382
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:03,000
threads open with Akuma, but I
feel like it the they defeat
1383
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,720
Akuma is the main like the fact
that he becomes in a big way,
1384
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,320
kind of the big bad of the of
this movie, at least with how it
1385
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,280
with with the last act of the
movie where you know, like that
1386
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,320
was the subversion that the
tournament doesn't matter
1387
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,720
ultimately.
And it's just it's just about
1388
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,840
this guy Akuma who shows up.
But but I will give you Jeremy
1389
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,480
that like I wanted to.
I mean, obviously I feel like a
1390
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:34,640
an accurate version of Akuma is
going to require some CG
1391
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,840
trickery or some blend with
Obviously it's a blend of some
1392
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,720
degree with with a live action
performance.
1393
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,960
But did it didn't match?
Something about it was just a
1394
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,600
little bit off compared to how
the aura that you got get from
1395
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,560
Akuma in the animated segments.
Well, I think the comparison is
1396
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,680
the way that they did the Dalzum
fight versus his fight, because
1397
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,240
the Dalzum fight, as you pointed
out, does really good camera
1398
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:01,000
work to imply the stretching so
that it doesn't look too CG and
1399
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,440
too silly.
And they maintained his very
1400
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:06,400
real sense of impact, whereas
Akuma, who should be easier to
1401
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,560
do, he doesn't stretch.
It felt it felt just more like a
1402
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,840
kind of a cutscene versus really
being in it.
1403
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,840
So Mike, we were all pretty
shocked when the credit stopped.
1404
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,680
But per personally for me, like
I was ready for the movie to be
1405
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,720
over.
And so when there was clear they
1406
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,240
were doing it Back to the Future
part two thing, I was like, you
1407
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,760
know what, it's cool.
I'm ready to go home.
1408
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,560
I liked what I had.
I don't think I would like this
1409
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,320
movie as much if it was another
20 minutes.
1410
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,600
So let's, let's call it let's
all go home.
1411
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,040
Feels good.
Mike, did you find the ending
1412
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,080
abrupt?
Yeah, I mean, part, part of it
1413
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,880
being a Back to the Future 2
ending is you don't realize it's
1414
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,680
an ending until they're just
like, and there's the and
1415
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:47,160
there's some credits like it was
very sudden and how it did that.
1416
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:53,360
Yeah, yeah, Sarah was right.
So anything else to say in
1417
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,080
praise or criticism of the movie
before we render our verdict?
1418
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,440
I just want to say, I know you
were, you would think that I was
1419
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:04,080
overthinking it when I said what
is What if it's about data
1420
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,920
centers?
But I'm just saying the whole
1421
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,360
thing is like a rigged game that
doesn't really matter and the
1422
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,880
whole thing is just the quest
for energy.
1423
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:18,440
And you're stealing the
techniques of people who did it
1424
01:12:18,440 --> 01:12:21,360
before you.
Yeah, I just kind of feel like
1425
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,880
like those things, OK, even if
it's not like this movies has
1426
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,960
some big major statement, I
think like those themes are
1427
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:35,960
enough in our current zeitgeist
that they're there.
1428
01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,960
You know what I mean?
I think they're in the movie.
1429
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,520
That's a good read only.
As much as I don't like the
1430
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,440
fact, like I want to see them
play the tournament, it's like
1431
01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:46,920
there is this part of me that's
like, but that's what it's like
1432
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,400
nowadays, right?
The tournament's just a show.
1433
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,640
And like, Joe wins by forfeit
because it doesn't matter.
1434
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,640
The rich guy's going to win
anyway.
1435
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,760
Do you know what I mean?
Like the rich guy is just going
1436
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,520
to take all the power and do
what he wants to do with it
1437
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,840
anyway.
Did I make a snarky comment
1438
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,080
about that read?
I think you you were just like,
1439
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,480
no way they were thinking of
that.
1440
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:11,400
I think no, I think that's very
possible.
1441
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,600
I actually think there was some
I.
1442
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,160
Was like, no, I don't think they
were either necessarily.
1443
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,320
But you know.
I also thought about like,
1444
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,080
manosphere and like male
toxicity in this movie.
1445
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,720
And there's this idea of like,
there's a certain type of, well,
1446
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,080
there's a lot of men who are
like glorifying violence and you
1447
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,360
have to dominate and you have to
be able to beat up every other
1448
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,520
guy in the room, otherwise
you're not a real man.
1449
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,120
And this whole movie is like,
don't go down that path because
1450
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:41,000
there's no turning back from it.
Like you need, you need to, you
1451
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,400
need to push down those the
awful instincts that we have
1452
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,040
inside of us and be better
people by choice.
1453
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,120
Right.
And it was like the the bad guy
1454
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,960
is ultimately manipulating.
Yeah.
1455
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,000
Ryu And it's like he had to
fight himself, like it wasn't.
1456
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,800
And I think that's so much
about, you know, even what's
1457
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,360
going on in culture now is like,
kind of trying to fight this
1458
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:09,040
inner nihilism and, like, be
earnest and earnestly, you know?
1459
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,400
But but Bison, is Facebook
creating dissent by feeding you
1460
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,680
what makes you want to fight
blocking the no kings account.
1461
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,120
Like, OK, I can like I, you know
what?
1462
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,000
Thanks for saying that.
I I actually like the movie a
1463
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,920
little bit more now.
All right, guys.
1464
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,640
Well, I think we covered the joy
pro, the joy cons and every bit
1465
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,800
in between.
Let's render our verdicts.
1466
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,360
Street Fighter 2026, a Nintendo
or a Nintendo Don't, Mike, can
1467
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,240
we kind of go clockwise around
the zoom and start with you?
1468
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,160
All right.
I think it's a close call.
1469
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:48,160
I think ultimately I don't
intend don't really I like the
1470
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,560
like, I like the animated
segments.
1471
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:55,920
There's some parts in the rest I
like, but a lot of the camera
1472
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,280
work I didn't like.
I found a lot of it just boring.
1473
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,080
Like I was waiting for it to get
to something that would be
1474
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,920
interesting.
To the point that I've looked at
1475
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,640
some other stuff that's
described it as like joke a
1476
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,000
minute and I'm like, I feel like
I watched a different movie.
1477
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,480
Like, not that there wasn't
stuff that was jokes, it just
1478
01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:16,640
they felt sparse to me.
And I think some of that may
1479
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:22,240
well be how much of this was a
fan service movie and is not a
1480
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,440
fan.
I think things that maybe, oh,
1481
01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:27,600
people like that, that's like,
that meant nothing to me.
1482
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,360
Yeah, I feel like I should pull
up our and standings just so I
1483
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,200
can make anyone who's listening
realize how much you hate Street
1484
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,760
Fighter 2.
And I think, I mean, you know,
1485
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:45,840
it's you know, it's still better
than I think of like wasn't
1486
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:51,040
Street Fighter the legend of
Chun Li, which I recount
1487
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,240
outright a bad movie?
This just felt just very mad.
1488
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,520
And I think it probably is.
Also, I like the 94 Street
1489
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,120
Fighter a lot more because I
feel like kind of what it used
1490
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,320
it as an inspiration, but it
kind of did its own thing.
1491
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,480
Whereas this I think I get the
impression try to do so much
1492
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:14,240
from the games and that just
that doesn't carry any weight to
1493
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,760
me because it doesn't have any
meaning to me.
1494
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,480
Yeah, I think that's fair.
I also would say that, like, you
1495
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:25,000
know, MM saw this movie sober
and I did not, right.
1496
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,440
And so if, if you are of age, I
would I, I do not think this is
1497
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:29,880
a movie you're meant to see
sober.
1498
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,680
It is purely ridiculous.
I think it's a great addition to
1499
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,560
a night out with friends.
I laughed so much.
1500
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,880
I think they should be
advertising the comedy more.
1501
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,360
I think this is a definite
Nintendo.
1502
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,920
I had a really good time, and I
would say it's a Super Nintendo
1503
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,080
if you're a fan of the games,
because we've been wanting to
1504
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,040
see something like this for a
very long time.
1505
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:54,080
And I was very nervous when
Mortal Kombat 2 was so good that
1506
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,480
I didn't know if there was room
in my heart for another one.
1507
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,400
I would probably still slightly
give the edge to Mortal Kombat
1508
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,000
2.
Like that's probably a nine and
1509
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,840
a half and this is a nine, but I
love the hell out of this movie,
1510
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,480
Margot said.
Like Jeremy, I think that movie
1511
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:11,040
was made specifically for you.
And it's like, it's very Jeremy
1512
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,440
coded.
It's very obnoxious.
1513
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:16,360
It's very bombastic.
It it, it's having a good time
1514
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,640
even if you're not.
So I, I adore this movie.
1515
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:26,720
It's I'm very, very happy.
So I did I, I did also still put
1516
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,640
Mortal Kombat 2 slightly above
this.
1517
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,880
I think I'd given that three
stars and I gave.
1518
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,680
I ended up giving this 2 1/2.
Brian, how about you though
1519
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,000
we've been talking about seeing
and a portrayal of RE you like
1520
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,040
this for some time.
Oh sure, and at the same time, I
1521
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,240
mean to piggyback off of you
guys both mentioning the
1522
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,120
comparison to the other big
fighting game movie this year,
1523
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,640
Mortal Kombat 2.
I similarly give the edge to
1524
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,040
that one.
But I love that these are both
1525
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:57,960
movies that that for better and
arguably also for worse, lean
1526
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,000
very, very hard into the camp in
the fanservice in a for
1527
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:06,720
franchises where fans of it have
kind of been starving for a
1528
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:12,560
properly fully fan embracing
camp, embracing depiction of
1529
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,960
these characters.
You know, without the without
1530
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,680
loss of a serious edge to it
too.
1531
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:23,120
But at the same time, yeah, I
can't necessarily recommend this
1532
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,040
to anybody who isn't already at
least a casual fan of the
1533
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,880
franchise and knows his
characters because I'm not
1534
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,280
surprised that a lot of those
people are watching this movie
1535
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,720
going, like, what I'm supposed
to care about.
1536
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:39,160
Like, yeah.
But at the same time, if you
1537
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:43,080
can, even if you aren't a fan, I
feel like there are a subset of
1538
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:49,040
of of people who might find in
person the way that this movie
1539
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,320
introduces a very faithful
version of virtually all of
1540
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,720
these characters.
You know, with some, with some
1541
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,640
changes, obviously, like we
mentioned before with Chun Li,
1542
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,360
But at the same time, I I love
that at least in that case, like
1543
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,800
Kalina, Kalina Liang really
brought a lot to and her and her
1544
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,320
own fandom into, you know, into
portraying this, this character
1545
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,520
the way the way that we kind of
all remember it.
1546
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,400
So in that vein, I know you
don't allow decimals, Jeremy,
1547
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,800
but I've I've in a lot of ways,
coming out of the movie, I was
1548
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,040
like, I get this maybe like a
7.5 because it's not perfect
1549
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,320
either.
You know, there's definitely
1550
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,600
jokes that I rolled my eyes at
that, that I'm not going to
1551
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,480
forgive just because it's a
camping movie.
1552
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:30,760
It's like, yeah, I would have
polished this and polished that,
1553
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:35,160
as you know, but but as a fan, I
was like, I got to bump this up
1554
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,160
to 8, I think out of 10 because
it's just like this is at the
1555
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:43,960
very least, it's so much fun.
There are there are some warts
1556
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,360
and all with the movie, but it's
a nice Dan sticker.
1557
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,440
But yeah, it's good fun.
And at the very least, hopefully
1558
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,040
I would, I would love to see a
sequel of this movie.
1559
01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:00,400
I think the these actors are
such a fun take on all these.
1560
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,080
I want to see them chew the
scenery more in the way that
1561
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,880
Mortal Kombat 2 did to Mortal
Kombat 1.
1562
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,560
Because I think it sounds like
we're in agreement.
1563
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,400
Mortal Kombat 2.
Was better than the first, the
1564
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,560
movie that it's a sequel to,
which also still very much got
1565
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:18,600
rightful praise for embracing,
you know, a more faithful take
1566
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,720
on on the characters as we
remember them.
1567
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,240
This movie does that too.
But it's.
1568
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,440
Yeah.
If there's not that that's not
1569
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:28,080
your kind of bag, then you're
probably going to roll your eyes
1570
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,040
at this.
But yeah, it's good fun.
1571
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,240
It's good fun, Yeah.
And.
1572
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,440
And if anything, it makes me
more hopeful for like the
1573
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:39,280
potential that a sequel could be
even better than this.
1574
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,840
Yeah, especially with everything
in Bison that they didn't
1575
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,880
resolve so much with him.
But at the same time, I didn't
1576
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,640
bother me too much because I'm
like, at least that leaves the
1577
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,480
door open with him, given that
he's such a central big bad of
1578
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:52,200
this franchise.
And and like you said, Jeremy,
1579
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,080
like they play with the fact
that like, he's not capable in
1580
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,200
his own right.
He needs to take everyone else's
1581
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,320
supernatural power to to build
himself up.
1582
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,240
And I would love to see that
have some kind of pay off in a
1583
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:04,080
sequel.
So.
1584
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,800
It's a Nintendo for you, Sarah.
Take us home.
1585
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,000
Nintendo.
Nintendo.
1586
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,560
I think it's a Nintendo.
If you played the game, I think
1587
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,840
if you didn't play the game, I
don't think you're going to get
1588
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,680
much out of it.
I think you're going to be more
1589
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:23,160
confused and notice the plot
holes a lot more.
1590
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:28,680
So I gave it A7.
I feel like I'm definitely the
1591
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,880
audience for this movie.
Like the parts that I loved, I
1592
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:39,760
really loved and I just feel
like I just wish, I just wish
1593
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,320
like there's a few things that I
would tweak.
1594
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,800
Like again, I loved the setup.
I just think like the back half
1595
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,960
of the movie, it didn't land for
me and I just, I really wish it
1596
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,160
had because I I enjoyed the
ride, but I still enjoyed it,
1597
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,040
right?
I still thought it was a lot of
1598
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,880
fun.
So yeah, 7 out of 10 for me and
1599
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,280
definite Nintendo, especially if
you're a fan of the game.
1600
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,800
Awesome.
My prediction is that Street
1601
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,000
Fighter 2 will handle characters
in Street Fighter Three, much
1602
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,240
like how Street Fighter was
basically Street Fighter Two,
1603
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,640
and they'll always be one behind
in the numerology of it.
1604
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,320
Well guys, we're going to call
that game over for today.
1605
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,960
This concludes our final
verdict.
1606
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,280
Street Fighter for 2026 is a
Nintendo.
1607
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,880
Brian, It's always great to
throw hands with you.
1608
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,040
Why don't you let our listeners
know once again where they can
1609
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,080
find your stuff?
Well, I am on Instagram and
1610
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:37,160
TikTok as Brian dot S dot Lee
and on YouTube as Brian Lee.
1611
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,560
No spaces, no middle initial.
You can find just various
1612
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,120
cosplay stuff.
I do music stuff, I do activism.
1613
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,920
I mean, it's a solid just you
know, the content I put out
1614
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,040
there.
But but yeah, find me there.
1615
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,240
Excellent.
And Sarah, I want to let people
1616
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,000
know where they can get that
sweet chunli outfit.
1617
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,360
Was that an Amazon Original?
That was an Amazon original.
1618
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,960
There we go everyone, it sounds
any excellent.
1619
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,640
Join us next time for a fun
filled light switch episode in
1620
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,760
which Mike and I will be talking
about the other games we've been
1621
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,680
playing in our offseason as we
gear up for Season 5.
1622
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,160
Until next time, Please remember
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1623
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,080
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1624
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,720
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1625
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,920
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1626
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,920
We'd love to hear what you
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1627
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:25,600
what you'd like to hear in
future episodes.
1628
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,360
Check out Season 1 for our
coverage of Street Fighter Two.
1629
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,120
And as always, thanks for
listening to the old Switcharoo.
1630
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,400
We've been talking gaming retro
with Mike and Jaymo.
1631
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,640
I've been Mike.
And I've been Jaymo.
1632
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:43,400
Game on, everyone.
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