Screentime: The Super Mario Galaxy Movie (2026) Spoiler Discussion

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a woo Hoo. 
As a great man once said. 

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Or a woman in that case. 
Wahoo. 

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Which means welcome back to the 
old Switcheroo, where we're 

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talking gaming retro with Mike 
and Jamo. 

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I'm Mike. 
And I'm Jamo, we're the often 

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imitated, never emulated gaming 
podcast that researches, reviews

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and playfully ribs every game in
the Nintendo Classics catalog. 

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But in this special screen time 
episode, we're slinging shells 

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over the 2026 animated feature 
the Super Mario Galaxy movie. 

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If you like what you hear, don't
forget to like, subscribe, and 

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give us your thoughts in the 
comments below. 

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Joining us once again is the man
who scored three kills with a 

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single Star Wars hunter 
headshot, allegedly cosplay King

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Brian dot S dot Lee. 
How's your universe been, Brian?

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Yeah, it's been pretty good. 
Thank you for the nice reminder.

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I I forgot about. 
I mean, and also that you 

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believe me because I, I didn't 
know at the time how to save 

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video on the Nintendo Switch and
then they found out after the 

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fact. 
What's it? 

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You were good at hunters like I,
I believe it in that headshot. 

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Oh, thank you. 
Yeah, no, I mean, in in that 

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short window that that it still 
existed as a game, Unfortunately

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you can't play it anymore 
because they've shuttered, shut 

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the servers down. 
But yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm, I'm

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very proud of that moment that I
can't prove to anybody, but at 

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least I have your stress that it
happened just. 

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Sketch it. 
Sketch it. 

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Yeah. 
And last seen narrowly beating 

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me in the Animal Crossing, Love 
Island's battle Royale. 

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Yoshi's number one fan, Our 
friend Lisa. 

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Do you see any blue sparks 
driving home tonight, Lisa? 

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Just mine. 
OK, wait, so you see. 

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Yourself driving in the third 
person like Mario Kart style. 

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No, I'll. 
Even hit the change view button.

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I just met in the rear view of 
my car. 

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It makes me wonder how hard that
would be to actually do like 

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have a drone following your car 
and then like you're driving, 

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but from the drone's view you. 
Know there was there's a YouTube

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video of it and what they didn't
do it with a drone. 

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They did it with essentially an 
elaborate crane that was like 

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angled just right. 
Nice. 

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But apparently it's no 
apparently it's incredibly 

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difficult. 
I'm just saying if we had if 

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we've had all that training 
doing third person, you know, 

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Mario Karting, like the theories
said, hold, you know, I mean, I 

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guess it's not joystick and 
like, but I mean, come on. 

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You know what else? 
The trouble. 

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What else had trouble staying on
the road? 

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the Super Mario Galaxy movie. 
Are we ready to jump? 

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Are we ready to jump into the 
Warp Star, everybody? 

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Sure. 
We are right. 

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So let's talk about the Super 
Mario Galaxy movie, released in 

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theaters worldwide in April 
2026. 

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As described on imdb.com, Mario 
ventures into space, exploring 

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cosmic worlds and tackling 
galactic challenges far from the

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familiar Mushroom Kingdom. 
Let's take a look at the film's 

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poster since that is somewhat 
sometimes a person. 

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Since that is sometimes a 
person's first impression. 

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We have a vibrantly colorful 
image of Mario flying towards 

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the viewer while an array of 
allies and enemies loom behind 

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him in the foreground. 
Or several locations from the 

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movie such as the Mushroom 
Kingdom and the casino like 

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Gateway Galaxy, while in the 
background various planets and 

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structures float in the 
distance. 

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Mike, we like this trailer 
poster. 

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Not really. 
It doesn't have anything that 

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sort of stands out. 
To me, yeah, it it, it's kind of

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like the movie to me. 
It's like a lot of stuff packed 

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in but nothing. 
Particularly memorable. 

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Yeah, theoretically focused on 
Mario, but I don't care. 

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Yeah, 'cause it's Mario. 
I I would argue this is actually

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Peach's movie, but. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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More than his, anyway. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, in a lot of ways, 
especially considering the way 

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it ties to her relationship with
her sister. 

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I mean, it's a little, I'm a 
little with Jeremy. 

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And obviously we'll, we'll, 
we'll get into it about the the 

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frenetic kind of jumbled 
busyness of the movie, which I 

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feel like on some level is 
represented by this poster. 

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Yeah. 
But but yeah, I mean, like, I 

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mean, it's a common term for 
posters like this, the, the 

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floating heads poster, that it's
not meant to be that the focus 

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is less the artistic, you know, 
artistic value and more dislike.

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Make sure everybody sees who's 
in this, you know? 

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But I mean, I, I feel like 
floating head, floating heads, 

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poster designs can be done very 
tastefully. 

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Look at any of Drew Strusen's 
paintings. 

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And like, this just feels like 
everyone coming at you and it's 

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just sort of right in the 
center. 

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And like, I don't know, it's 
fine. 

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It's an advertisement, but it's 
not one to put up on your wall. 

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I do wonder if it looked cooler 
in three. 

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DI really felt that watching 
this movie too. 

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Like I kind of like, I don't 
know if you were like, you know,

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this should have been a four DX 
thing. 

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I don't know, I got. 
That I had bits where I'm like. 

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Would this be more fun in four 
DX? 

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Yeah, yeah, 100%. 
Well, produced by Illumination 

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and distributed by Universal 
Studios with a budget of $110 

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million, which it made back in 
the a day Like This movie is 

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doing quite well as of recording
really. 

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Yeah, it's apparently the 
highest grossing animated film 

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of the year already from its 
first weekend. 

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So, I mean, granted, the year 
hasn't been that far, but I 

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mean, we're already in April 
like 'cause. 

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It's just to have a crazy number
of screens cause like that was 

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not for a Friday night showing. 
There was not that many people 

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in there. 
It's a kids movie though. 

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Yeah, on top of. 
It so like it's. 

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Been that theater. 
Saturday's afternoon is probably

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packed Sunday afternoon. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, at least from its 
Wikipedia page it mentions. 

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I mean, because it's what it's 
only been out. 

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Four days, I think. 
Yeah, less than a week, it says.

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But it became a commercial 
success, grossing $372 million 

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worldwide against $110 million 
budget, becoming the third 

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highest grossing film of 2026 
and already the highest grossing

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enemy to film of the year. 
Yeah. 

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People are waiting. 
It's slick. 

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Or as Lisa would say, you do it 
so much better than me. 

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All right, well, let's see how 
good you are at this. 

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Lisa, We're going to do a quick 
mini game minute. 

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We're calling Super Sorry, 
Smartio Galaxy, the movie that 

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looked better on paper than it 
sounded. 

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Smartio Mario. 
Get. 

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Anyway, pretty simple concept. 
I'm going to hit you with some 

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trivia from imdb.com. 
Shout it out as soon as I'm done

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reading the question. 
We've got 6 total here and a 

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tiebreaker. 
So Super Mario Galaxy is 

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actually the second animated 
movie that Illumination has 

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released on April Fool's Day, 
following what Easter Bunny 

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adventure from 2011. 
Ha. 

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One point for my cop. 
Good job. 

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Yeah, I forgot that movie 
existed. 

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Oh, me too. 
Well, even though I was a little

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thrown off by the question. 
You said there was following 

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that. 
What do you mean? 

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That was the last time they 
released a animated movie on 

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April Fool's. 
Oh, on the OK, I mean, all 

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right. 
You know, I'm do better on this 

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one, Brian. 
Which which major character in 

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the Super Mario Galaxy movie is 
being voiced by a male voice 

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actor for the first time? 
Oh, Yoshi. 

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Nope. 
Mike. 

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Lisa. 
Any guesses? 

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No idea. 
My voice. 

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For the first. 
Time, Mike. 

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I think this was Bowser Junior. 
Another point for Mike. 

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Yes, Denny Safti is the first 
male voice actor to play Bowser 

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Junior, having always been 
represented by female voice 

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actors in the games. 
I get you. 

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I mean, that makes sense because
I know they'll often use women 

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to do like kid voices and Bowser
Junior as a kid so. 

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Yeah, 100%. 
All right, Brian, ready? 

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Sure. 
This one's. 

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This one's yours, baby. 
OK, get ready for it. 

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Get ready for it. 
OK. 

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I'm working my way. 
Speaking of sound, Super Mario 

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Galaxy reuses an iconic sound 
effect from what multibillion 

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dollar Universal franchise? 
I mean the dress park. 

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Boom the TX roar that. 
Was the actual one. 

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Yes. 
So it turns out they just 

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pitched it down a little to give
it a bit more of a rumble, but 

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it is the same sound effect. 
Yeah, I mean, at the same time, 

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I mean, I, I didn't figure it 
was the same, but I, it sounded 

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so similar. 
I I'm not surprised to hear that

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they they more or less use the 
same same like core audio for it

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because I mean, if anything, it 
was such an iconic movie, 

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Jurassic Park and this, this the
the the very signature sound to 

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give the T Rex. 
I feel like every time we've 

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seen AT Rex and anything, it's 
been kind of riffing off of that

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sound that like that bellowy 
kind of like, I forget what 

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animals they used to sort of 
that mixed together to make it. 

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But yeah, I mean, it's it 
crossed my mind seeing the movie

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to like, oh man, that's that's 
the, that's a Jurassic Park T 

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Rex roar, I think. 
I don't know. 

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I think that in the trailer, and
that was my initial thought, I 

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was like, is that just, is that 
just the Jurassic Park? 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it's really. 

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It's it's a sort of forever 
become, I think on some level 

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what people expect now AT Rex to
sound like. 

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It's sort of like how the 
whoever first decided the red 

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tailed hawk makes a much better 
car sound than the than the bald

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eagle, which if you've ever 
listened to an actual bald 

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eagle, they just sound like kind
of chirpy. 

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Or kind of like how Kookaberras 
are like, thought of as like 

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jungle things all over the place
because it's, they sound good, 

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right? 
Actually frogs too, they use 

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it's Southern California. 
Frogs are like in everything. 

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And it's like, that's not what 
frogs sound elsewhere. 

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Or like the what is the, the 
Canadian loon That, that, yeah, 

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I just know there's, there's 
tropes like that in, in sound 

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effects where they kind of just 
pick the bird or the, or the 

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frog or whatever that just 
sounds the best. 

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And then everybody used that 
same sound effect. 

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All right, Frog. 
And after Jurassic Park, all 

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mathematicians and movies are 
sexy. 

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Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 
And they got to be in real life 

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too, right? 
All right, Speaking of actors, 

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there's my segue back into the 
game here. 

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You can each get a point for 
this one, because there's three 

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possible answers. 
Name a voice actor who lobbied 

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the studio to get into this 
movie. 

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Glenn Powell. 
Glenn Powell was one playing 

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Fox. 
McLeod, Lisa gets a point. 

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Brian, Mike, you got any? 
I'm gonna wager maybe Brie 

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Larson. 
I think she was a Nintendo fan. 

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She was indeed Mike last one. 
Donald Glover. 

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Yeah, yes, guys. 
Oh, everybody. 

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That was called. 
Who else is new in this movie? 

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I can think of you did. 
It it's not the returning cast, 

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it's like all the. 
Yeah, it would be sad. 

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Seth Rogen. 
Seth Rogen didn't have a line. 

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We saw Donkey Kong for half a 
second, so they did him dirty. 

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All right, guys. 
Doing great here when Peach and 

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Toad MIT Fox McCloud. 
There's an obvious cameo of 

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Captain Olamar ship as it 
unloads a crew full of peak men,

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but taking off in the background
is a blink and you'll miss it. 

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Sighting of a gunship flown by 
what other Nintendo spacefarer? 

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Shamus. 
Shamus Lisa pulls ahead. 

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Damus arrived. 
Didn't see it. 

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Well, it was there. 
Good, good, good. 

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There's two shots were Samus and
her gun. 

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Well, you don't see Samus, but 
you see the gunship flying 

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around. 
I mean. 

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You never really see Samus. 
Right. 

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Well, no, I mean not in the 
games you've played. 

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Yeah, so they're very much 
sowing the seeds of like, 

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obviously like, you know, Fox 
McCloud is a is a major 

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character in this, but like 
they're sowing the seeds of 

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Smash Bros, you know? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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That's cool. 
Weird segue to Samus in the 

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bikini, though. 
But Mike, you do see Samus, so 

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you're doubly wrong. 
Anyway, this movie features the 

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big screen debut of three iconic
bosses from Super Mario 2. 

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Wart the frog played by Luis 
Guzman in the Vegas like Gateway

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Galaxy chilling out with Berto, 
the gender ambiguous egg spitter

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and a bomb tossing rodent named 
what? 

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Steve what? 
Was the name of the bomb tossing

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mouse in Super Mario 2? 
It's the third. 

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I don't. 
Know. 

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The bomb Tassing mouse. 
Not Pikachu. 

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It's the mouse, how can you 
think of it? 

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The Mouser the. 
Mouser. 

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You know, you don't get the 
point. 

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It was Mouser. 
OK, all right, here. 

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Last one to potentially tie the 
game here, The final cutscene of

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Super Mario Galaxy on the Wii 
and the first teaser trailer for

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this film both started with the 
sight of what insect landing on 

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Mario's cap. 
Beetle Beterfly. 

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Mike, wait, actually, wait a 
minute. 

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I might have marked the thing 
wrong. 

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Yes, yellow butterfly, which I 
don't know why, but I like it. 

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It's pretty. 
So then I might have been 

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keeping the score wrong. 
Full disclosure, but we have a 

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tiebreaker question. 
OK, Price is right rules. 

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Brian you can't win, but you got
a lot of heart kid between Brian

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and Lisa, Mike and Lisa. 
How many minutes long is the 

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Super Mario Galaxy movie? 
Price is Right rules closest 

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without going over. 186. 
Mike. 37. 

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You mean 137? 
No, he's going. 

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Price is right. 
OK, OK. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Fair, fair. 

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Well, Lisa went over, so I quit.
I would. 

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Say. 
I thought he was gonna one 

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minute, Bob you honestly, 
that's. 

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Fine. 
Wait, Lisa, He's at 186. 

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Yeah. 
That's. 

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Like 3 hours. 3 / 3 hour a. 186 
minutes. 

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Yeah. 60 minutes per per hour 
that that's an over 3 hour 

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movie. 
That's like, I don't know how 

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long you thought of this. 
I don't know, I got home at 

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lake. 
Mike wins. 

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Mike wins. 
All right, so that was fun. 

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Before we get started on the 
plot review, I want your first 

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takes on the 1st Super Mario 
movie. 

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And overall, how'd this one 
compare to the previous film? 

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Lisa, can we start with you? 
Sure, I did not like the 

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previous film. 
I was like, this just isn't for 

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me. 
So I wasn't too excited going 

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into this film. 
But afterwards, I really enjoyed

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it. 
I really liked it. 

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I thought it did so much better 
than what the first movie did. 

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And I don't know if that's just 
because they had to, got all the

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things they needed to out of the
way, and now they could just 

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actually do like a movie. 
Like, you know who Mario is, you

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know who everyone is. 
So let's go forward. 

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I really enjoyed it. 
It hit all the nostalgia points 

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for me. 
OK, OK. 

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Have you play, have you played 
Super Mario Galaxy? 

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Yes. 
And I do not remember it OK. 

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There's it's not, there's not a 
ton to do. 

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There's some neat cameos towards
the end of the movie, and 

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there's the Galaxy Cube that has
the kind of gravity defying 

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rules that that game is known 
for. 

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You know, the kind of 
represented that in Peach's 

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battle in the casino planet 
where she gets to run on the 

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walls and the ceiling. 
That felt the most like a Mario 

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Galaxy level to me. 
So Mike, have you played Mario 

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Galaxy and what did you think of
the film? 

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I have not. 
And I think I had sort of let 

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off my take on the first of 
these movies with the most 

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important part of this movie is 
presumably Mario, and Mario's 

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also the weakest part of this. 
Yeah. 

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And I felt that held for the 1st
and I felt it held for the 

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second. 
Yeah. 

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And that this felt more 
haphazard plot wise to me. 

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And so there's interesting 
characters and some interesting 

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bits, but I felt like I spent a 
lot of the movie just like, OK, 

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I know where we're going with 
this and I'm just waiting for 

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the movie to catch up with 
itself and hope that something 

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entertaining happens along the 
way. 

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It's like my favorite bits are 
all not the main narrative, 

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really. 
Yeah, I, I think my issue with 

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it is that I didn't know where 
it was going because every time 

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I thought it was going to do 
something really interesting 

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with the characters, it swerved 
into the most straightforward, 

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like story you could imagine. 
I could feel like time and time 

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again it was just like one 
missed opportunity after the 

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other. 
And like, it felt weird because 

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like, I'm really easy to please.
I'm a real cheap date. 

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I like far Dumber movies than 
this, you know. 

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That's. 
True. 

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I actually say in this here, 
this gets deeper into plot, but 

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I think it's clear we're going 
to be doing that. 

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We haven't got one. 
Full spoilers. 

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Yet, though, we haven't. 
We're not doing full spoilers 

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yet, right? 
Yeah, although I think this is 

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in the category of it should 
have been a spoiler. 

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OK. 
It's related to something it 

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should have been, which is I do 
not like that I knew that Star 

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Fox was in this. 1,000,000%. 
Going into it. 

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Agreed. 
Yeah, that was a weird thing. 

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Like just let that because it's 
in the film, it's set up to be a

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surprise. 
Except they told you. 

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It it did feel like an like an 
intentionally cash grabby thing 

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to spoil that ahead of time to, 
yeah, get butts and seats. 

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And it's clear that they didn't 
have to. 

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Yeah, and I think the 
interesting part with that, the 

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one time where the movie sort of
surprised me, was it set that up

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to play off the trope of 
expecting Mario to see Peach 

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with Star Fox and have some sort
of jealousy or insecurity. 

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Yeah. 
And it pauses for them to then 

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immediately just get along well.
And I it's the one time where it

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did something unexpected. 
And it's mostly because it's set

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it up to do the most predictable
thing for a movie and then not 

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do it. 
Yeah, but that would have been 

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more interesting. 
Like, you know, it's like, like 

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when they meet Yoshi, like 
Yoshi, the cutest freaking thing

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on the planet. 
I feel like they nailed the 

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Yoshi look and the sound. 
And I love him and he's a baby 

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and we must save him at all 
costs and all that stuff. 

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But like there's a beat when 
they find him and it's like, oh,

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Yoshi's scared and you're like, 
what's happened to Yoshi? 

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And oh, they're not to build his
trust and he's getting. 

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And then when Yoshi finally 
trusts them or saves them, it's 

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going to hit. 
And it's like, no, he loves them

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immediately and they love him 
immediately. 

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And even Toad's like, so he's 
just part of the team now, OK. 

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And it's like it's a funny joke 
for the trailer. 

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But like this whole movie had 
that vibe of like, oh, friends 

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join the party. 
Oh, bad guys, you know, stay 

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bad. 
Don't be complex. 

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Like I just. 
Well, I feel like, yeah, that's 

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true, But I feel like Bowser did
get more complex than that 

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because he was he he had the 
choice. 

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Yeah, I guess this is getting 
into spoilers. 

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00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,080
Yeah, I think. 
We should just go to spoilers, 

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yeah. 
So if you're listening spoiler 

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time, yeah. 
So he has the choice to go back 

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to being evil, and he chooses 
not to. 

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He chooses to stick with Mario. 
What? 

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Really. 
Doesn't. 

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No. 
Well. 

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He does because he does, but not
by the end. 

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00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,800
Right, but then he tries to kill
him later. 

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00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,280
Yeah, he just flip-flopped on 
that. 

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Quite a time they walk that 
back. 

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Yeah, they. 
They do and they I feel like 

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because he becomes dry bones 
like he's a little different. 

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They also tried to kill him. 
I mean, they arguably. 

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Did kill him. 
He should be a little pissed 

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here. 
Sure, I mean, if I may so so so 

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my general take on the movie, 
like I I on the flip side, I 

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actually was pleasantly 
surprised by the first one. 

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I wasn't expecting a lot, but I 
and I found more of it enjoyable

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than than not. 
But I still had the similar 

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issues kind of that that Mike 
mentioned before as well, where 

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you know, your your articular 
character seems seems to be the 

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weakest point. 
But it's still it's still I felt

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like the first movie still 
carried very much with over with

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the portrayal of the other 
characters. 

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Whereas in this one it felt 
like, well, I remember going 

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into it kind of feeling like 
because I did not play the the 

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Super Mario Galaxy games, that 
IA lot of it would go over my 

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head. 
I was I remember very early on 

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just seeing the title of the 
movie going like, oh, I wish 

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this movie had been called Super
Mario World so they could just 

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00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,680
sort of steps the kind of 
roughly system to system to 

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system. 
But then I kind of got the 

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reality check of how old Super 
Mario Galaxy already is a game. 

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And plus I already knew from the
first movie that it in a way 

403
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,160
that I found very pleasantly 
surprising about the first 

404
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,800
movie, it ended up being an 
homage to the whole franchise. 

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Like I I nerded out very much 
over in the first movie as I did

406
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,680
a lot in this one as well over 
all the references to Koji 

407
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,160
Kondo's like classic themes at 
at at key moments in ways that 

408
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,360
didn't feel like, you know, his 
fanservice has a way of really 

409
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,280
putting off people who don't get
the fanservice sometimes. 

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Like I've I've heard it 
criticized about the newer 

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Mortal Kombat movie of like, if 
you don't know Kung Lao and 

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you're they're just like, Oh, 
this is a hat guy is seeing, you

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know, like they're lingering on 
him in a way, like, Hey, it's 

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Kung Lao. 
You know, whereas in this movie,

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in either of these movies, I 
feel like they they they blend 

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in a lot of those those 
references very organically. 

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Like I loved like at the first 
appearance of the gunships in 

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this movie. 
You hear that? 

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Yeah. 
You know, just that little cue 

420
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that you remember from Mario 3 
when you would have to go up in 

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the gunships and things like 
that. 

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That those those were those were
still there in this. 

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But I'm, I, I lament to say that
there really wasn't much else 

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to, to, to pull me into this 
like that. 

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That's a lot of what sticks out 
in my mind of what I enjoyed 

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00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,120
about this. 
It felt like there was a lot of 

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00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,720
subplots that felt 
underdeveloped. 

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You know, that there was 
something interesting going on 

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00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,800
at times with like Bowser and 
his son and the father son 

430
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,200
dynamic there that would sort of
get abandoned similarly to some 

431
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degree with with Rosalina and 
and Peach's sisterhood and their

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history. 
Although if anything, I feel 

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like that was maybe like the the
core of this movie that they 

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should have maybe leaned into a 
little bit more because of, you 

435
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,720
know, because that's I guess I 
feel like the the most of the 

436
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,080
backbone of what drives a story 
is, is is, you know, that lost 

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00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,640
connection between Rosalina and 
and Pete's, but like to, you 

438
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,240
know, to the detriment. 
I feel like a Mario and Luigi 

439
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,200
story and and, and the stuff 
with Yoshi, like it like, yeah, 

440
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,600
I'm kind of there with you, 
Jeremy. 

441
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,440
We're like, it's where it's like
suddenly everyone trusts Yoshi 

442
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,000
now. 
And if anything, that line about

443
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,560
like, oh, we're just, we're just
cool with this dinosaur joining 

444
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,040
us now. 
Like I thought that would be set

445
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,800
up for something that never 
quite realized either. 

446
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,400
Yeah, there's, there's a whole 
through line that this movie 

447
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,640
could have been about, like kind
of trusting again, right? 

448
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Yeah. 
Because like they set up this 

449
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,600
thing with Bowser and he has 
this kid and he was like this 

450
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,400
deadbeat dad. 
And I'm like, oh, that's going 

451
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,600
to be interesting, right? 
Like no, Bowser Junior is 

452
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,560
obsessed with him. 
He does not care that Bowser low

453
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,160
key abandoned him as a child. 
He's just immediately loves his 

454
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,920
dad and Bowser loves having a 
kid. 

455
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,840
Like there's just no tension. 
Yeah, how he quickly double 

456
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,560
crosses them to once and once 
the kid gets back into his into 

457
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,440
the picture too. 
But sorry Mike, what were you 

458
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,760
saying? 
I. 

459
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,640
Would say I think that that is a
route to go is that it could 

460
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,280
also God, which is not the you 
left and I'm angry, but the I 

461
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,040
have been trying to do things 
that would earn your approval 

462
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,800
ever since you're gone like I 
think it does go much Yeah, like

463
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,960
yeah, yeah, it does go down that
path. 

464
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,840
So I think you're going like 
well he's not angry. 

465
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,400
There's not tensions like no, 
this is a different. 

466
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,360
It's a different path he could 
go down and it basically he 

467
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:41,680
decided, well, clearly my dad 
left, so I need to do everything

468
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,200
he did or he told us to do, and 
then I'll win his love again. 

469
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,880
And that essentially boils down 
to that, because it works, you 

470
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
know, Mario and Luigi killing 
Bowser. 

471
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,760
Yeah, so I mean, if if someone 
hasn't seen it, one of the 

472
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,360
twists is that little Bowser 
genuinely wants to do better and

473
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,640
he like befriends Luigi and 
Mario and actually kind of 

474
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,920
sacrifices himself when they 
crash land on the bee planet. 

475
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,760
He's like all all be enslaved in
your place so you can go rescue 

476
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,360
the Princess. 
And Bowser and Mario have this 

477
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,640
moment of like, hey, you're not 
so bad. 

478
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,600
And then Bowser is literally 
before the camera cuts away, 

479
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,760
rescued by his son. 
So that sacrifice he just did 

480
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,360
was was a 5 minute sacrifice 
honestly. 

481
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240
I didn't even buy it as a 
sacrifice when it happened. 

482
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,200
I I really didn't buy it either.
I figured he knew his son was 

483
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,400
coming to pick him up or 
something and this was just. 

484
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,880
This was more like let Mario and
Luigi get their story going and 

485
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,000
we don't have to delve into this
spot. 

486
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,360
But see, I would have liked it 
to to lean a little bit more 

487
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,600
into that because I'm kind of 
with Jeremy. 

488
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,080
And at least the way I read that
scene with like you with the 

489
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,640
surprise that Mario has it at 
Bowser's behavior and the 

490
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Bowser. 
Yeah, like it it. 

491
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920
But it's like I I just felt like
they couldn't decide what they 

492
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,720
wanted to do with Bowser in the 
story. 

493
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,240
And it could have, it could if 
it had been a little bit more 

494
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
consistent in a way where you 
could see like an arc of him, 

495
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,800
like having to choose between, 
you know, yeah, I think he's 

496
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,400
been trying to be the good guy 
and then also connect with his 

497
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,960
son who's trying to impress him.
Like the whole reason why. 

498
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,200
Yeah. 
I would like to see some sort of

499
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,320
something a little bit clearer 
in terms of Bowser's intentions.

500
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,560
You know, like it, it, it felt 
like Bowser was just the least. 

501
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,240
I don't know. 
I think if it had felt to me 

502
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,840
like he had changed, but Mario 
wouldn't give him the benefit of

503
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,040
the doubt that it'd be one 
thing, but I didn't feel like he

504
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,160
had changed like they had. 
They kept relying on him 

505
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,920
snapping as comedy too much to 
feel for it to feel like, Oh no,

506
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,520
he has changed. 
Mario can't move on to Meyer's 

507
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280
probably got a point like he's a
jerk about it, but he's not 

508
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,200
wrong. 
Well, maybe maybe they'll play 

509
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,880
definitely on other watch, but I
definitely felt like it was like

510
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,320
they were trying to say that he 
had changed it, especially 

511
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,800
considering like right, right 
when he goes Mario into, you 

512
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,760
know, in big inning him again. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

513
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,960
I see what you mean. 
I would have liked it to be a 

514
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,760
little bit clearer that he was 
like getting ready to double 

515
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,400
cross. 
Ultimately, he does double cross

516
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600
them, but it didn't, I don't 
know, it didn't feel like it. 

517
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,360
It felt like they felt to me 
like they weren't really sure 

518
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:28,880
what they wanted to do with this
character, to be honest. 

519
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,400
But maybe that was sort of the 
subtext of it. 

520
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,800
I wouldn't say they wouldn't. 
Didn't necessarily know what to 

521
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,880
do with his character. 
I think they're trying to walk a

522
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,960
fine path because yes, Bowser's 
a villain, but people also 

523
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,440
really like Bowser. 
So it it's trying to find that 

524
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,520
place of, you know, you can't 
really kill the bad guy because 

525
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,520
he's kind of a good guy at 
times, you know, to make it more

526
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,800
complicated. 
So this and I also go, this is a

527
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,920
kids movie too, so I don't know 
how deep they want to dive into 

528
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
some of this stuff that then 
maybe, you know, I don't know, 

529
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240
this might be some Japanese 
culture or not where they're 

530
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080
like, we don't know, you know, 
we're not saying, you know, be 

531
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,240
this way or be that way. 
You know that we'll just kind of

532
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,960
keep it ambiguous and let us, 
you know, and let you choose 

533
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,600
what it is. 
I think I'm just missing the 

534
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,120
story beat and it could have 
been like a 5 second shot of the

535
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,720
moment when Bowser genuinely is 
like trying to kill Mario again 

536
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,200
and it's like they're not allies
anymore and they're like 

537
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
literally, you know, the 
recreation of the Bowser Bridge 

538
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,280
fight from the NES which I 
thought oh. 

539
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,520
That was so cool that. 
That, that, that. 

540
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Was when that hit, I was like, 
no freaking way. 

541
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160
And so cool. 
And they were smart about not 

542
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,920
make, you know, cutting the 
little 8 bit. 

543
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Like I thought the movie did 
that one too many times where 

544
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,840
it's like, look, it's like, 
looks like the old game. 

545
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,760
And I'm like, yeah, this is the 
third time you've done that. 

546
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,920
I don't know, that didn't bother
me. 

547
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,000
But I thought it was really cool
when they introduced Fox McLeod 

548
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,480
where he all the sudden it was a
different type of animation. 

549
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,240
It was all anime. 
It was very spider, which I know

550
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,960
a lot of films are doing now, 
which is awesome. 

551
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,640
But also now it feels cliche. 
But I think it would be cool if 

552
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,360
we do get a Fox McLeod movie or 
Star Fox that that is anime in 

553
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,120
that same style. 
And then that way like Mario has

554
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,920
its visual style. 
Yeah, Star Fox has its visual 

555
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,760
style. 
You know, The Legend of the 

556
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Zelda has its visual style 
because that's going to be live 

557
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,280
action, right? 
So that would just be really 

558
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:32,600
neat. 
I. 

559
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Wanted to finish my point about 
Bowser though, was that so So 

560
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840
when he goes back to big Bad and
it's their big final boss fight,

561
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,280
I just needed one moment where 
like he realizes that if he does

562
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,760
go good, he's going to have to 
leave his son again. 

563
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,320
So he's going to be bad to stay 
with him, you know, or, or, or 

564
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400
something, or like Mike said, 
like Mario pushes him to it and 

565
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,680
he's like, you know what, screw 
I did. 

566
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Like there had to be some kind 
of relatability. 

567
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,520
But like Lisa said, this is a 
kids movie. 

568
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,760
So like, what's the message to 
kids that you can't really 

569
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,920
change? 
And if you're bad, you're always

570
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,240
going to be bad. 
Deep down, it just didn't hit 

571
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,520
right. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

572
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,200
There was a lot of thought that 
went into the substance of the 

573
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,280
story, to be honest. 
It seems a lot of like a 

574
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,640
frenetic pieces that on their 
are done well, but like 

575
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640
collectively I mean. 
Connecting them is. 

576
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Yeah, I mean this the style is 
there like you talk about the 

577
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,120
animation style and obviously 
all the all the all the 

578
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,840
touchstones to like to the 
things that we're familiar with 

579
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,160
without being too too feeling 
like left out of left fields 

580
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,400
fanservice you. 
Because I, I clearly knew that 

581
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,960
there were like stuff tied to 
the Galaxy games that were kind 

582
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,200
of going over my head. 
But like, you know, I certainly 

583
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,800
got a thrill. 
I remember mentioning to you, 

584
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Lisa, let me see the, the, the I
forget the name of the, the 

585
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,480
upside down pyramid from, from 
Odyssey. 

586
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,760
And like, yeah, but it worked in
that universe because it's not 

587
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,680
like, hey, look at this thing. 
That's just where Mario and 

588
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,520
Luigi, you know, are, are on a 
mission, you know, and like, so.

589
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,520
Yeah. 
But at the same time, style 

590
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840
doesn't make up for substance. 
So I've. 

591
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,600
Yeah, I just felt like I wanted 
more out of the story points 

592
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,160
that they were that like, like 
what might mention before about 

593
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,080
the about the Fox McCloud and 
like, you know, if anything, I 

594
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,880
want to see more with him, not 
just screen time, but like 

595
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,280
character dynamics, you know, 
like how it affects how it's 

596
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,480
affecting other people. 
Other than just a brief moment 

597
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400
of Mario kind of going like, I 
don't know, I don't like this 

598
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,120
guy. 
The Peach is attracted to this 

599
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,040
guy or something, or suspects 
that he is. 

600
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,200
I feel like if. 
I am impressed to what extent he

601
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,080
functions as the movie's Han 
Solo to the point of Heart of 

602
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Gold with a price who takes them
to a destroyed planet location. 

603
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,720
And just like you really hit, 
you hit all the points here. 

604
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,200
And brings the cool vehicle 
loved. 

605
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,200
It Yeah. 
It's funny that the Han Solo 

606
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,840
comparison just points out how 
much better of a movie Star Wars

607
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,760
is, because Han Solo, you don't 
know if you can trust him and he

608
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
might abandoned him and he kind 
of struggles with that. 

609
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,080
But Fox, he's just the solid 
bro. 

610
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
He does it for the money, but 
that never comes up with the 

611
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040
allies. 
Like shouldn't it have? 

612
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,560
Same thing with like Yoshi. 
Yoshi is just like if you add a 

613
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480
character and they're just 
useful, I feel like they're a 

614
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,760
tool in the story. 
Yeah, there's like, no, even 

615
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,680
with very little like much like 
Han Solo. 

616
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640
I mean, I don't want to say Han 
Solo is a small part of Star 

617
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Wars, but like, but yeah, like 
to give that arc especially, I 

618
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,480
mean, there's such a payoff in 
so many ways the ending of Star 

619
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,440
Wars because amongst everything,
Han comes back to save the day, 

620
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,360
you know? 
So, so yeah, something like that

621
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,080
with Fox McCloud that that makes
him a little bit more of this 

622
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,960
little more than than what I 
feel like is a little bit of 

623
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,280
the, you know, 1 trick pony kind
of in this. 

624
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,240
He's cool and it was great to 
see him. 

625
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,960
But yeah, I just something more 
than that would have been nice. 

626
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Yeah, on that same Star borrow 
from Star Wars thing, I was not 

627
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600
expecting to have a middle 
surprise. 

628
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:21,440
We're at the Casino Planet bit. 
Yeah, but I they have casinos in

629
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920
the games and stuff like I, I 
don't remember. 

630
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Yeah, no, I remember seeing them
in like Mario Kart World or that

631
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,360
world of the phone version of 
the game. 

632
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
So it's like, sure, yes, yeah, 
that's. 

633
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,400
Right. 
That I mean that that was a 

634
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,320
really fun sequence, but like, 
OK, so it's good to complete the

635
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Star Wars trilogy of 
comparisons. 

636
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,160
The the climax of this movie is 
that Bowser Junior is going to 

637
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,600
use Rosalina as like a battery 
for his Death Star. 

638
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,720
And like in Star Wars, they show
you what the Death Star does. 

639
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,920
So it's scary, right? 
We don't really know what his 

640
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,320
giant sky be. 
It's going to destroy the 

641
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,560
universe. 
But like what is? 

642
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,720
And I guess he's said he's going
to aim it at the Mushroom 

643
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Kingdom. 
But they destroyed a thing with 

644
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,520
it or before that didn't. 
They that's when they were 

645
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,199
running OK. 
Yeah, there's a whole bit that 

646
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,360
they're going to go like place 
to place and destroy them. 

647
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,159
OK, maybe they also. 
They also fight in the end over 

648
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,199
lava. 
I mean, it's yeah, it keeps, 

649
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:22,760
it's, it's like poetry. 
It rhymes. 

650
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,400
OK, I, I, I don't know, but I 
thought it was a weird choice 

651
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000
because Rosalina is a fan 
favorite and you have Brie 

652
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,159
Larson playing her and she's so 
prominent in the advertisements 

653
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,320
and like, she gets captured in 
the first scene and stays in a 

654
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,520
cell until the last scene. 
Yeah, she's. 

655
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,920
A Princess, that's what they do.
Right, I get it and. 

656
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,159
Especially in this franchise, 
yeah. 

657
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,960
But she's saving her sister. 
But then. 

658
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,600
Well, in that same vein, that's 
sort of that's sort of why I 

659
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,040
like, you know, because Peach is
Peach's story among and 

660
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480
reconnecting and learning about 
her sister is kind of more told 

661
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,840
well from Peach's perspective. 
So I'm kind of with Lisa in in 

662
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,800
that like I feel like if there's
a the main character of this 

663
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,680
movie kind of should have been 
Peach rather than Mario. 

664
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:09,960
And ultimately the argument 
could be made that it is her, 

665
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,040
but. 
I think it would be stronger if 

666
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,920
it shifted that way. 
Yeah, they've just never figured

667
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,120
out an interesting approach to 
Mario. 

668
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,280
And I thought, and again, this 
movie, in my notes, I said this 

669
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,760
movie has a bunch of Nah moments
where it's like, it sets up an 

670
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,960
interesting idea and then Nah. 
And so, like, think, you know, 

671
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,120
one of the subplots is that 
Mario has feelings for Peach, 

672
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,400
and he, like, clearly likes or 
likes her. 

673
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:40,360
And Luigi and Yoshi are teasing 
him for it, and he's trying to 

674
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,760
build up the courage to say 
something. 

675
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000
And the end of the movie, he 
never says anything. 

676
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,880
Ah, but Peach kisses his cheek. 
It's fine. 

677
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080
She made the first move. 
And it's just like. 

678
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,520
If anything, I would have liked 
it too because I, I believe it's

679
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,760
a Shigaru Miyamoto who says 
there's like he never saw like 

680
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Peach as his love interest, but 
he's just, he's just saving her 

681
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,000
like their friends or something.
I don't know. 

682
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,400
I just remember some authority 
with with within Mario has sort 

683
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,000
of just defined the that Mario 
and Peach are are just friends 

684
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400
in that way. 
So if anything, I was watching 

685
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320
this movie and seeing that, OK, 
now they're doing a subplot in 

686
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,960
this of like Mario having 
feelings for her and like, does 

687
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,480
she? 
Does she have feelings back? 

688
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,200
Is she going for Fox McCloud 
instead? 

689
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,240
I thought maybe it'd be nice for
them to have an ending that 

690
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640
maybe was a little unexpected 
for like, because you would 

691
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,160
think a typical kids movie like 
this. 

692
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,480
Oh, he's going to find out 
though. 

693
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,520
They're they're they're going to
be together at the end. 

694
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,880
But like, you know, I know 
Jeremy, you and I particularly 

695
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,880
appreciate like certain Pixar 
movies, for example, who who who

696
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,240
will do, you know, certain 
subplots that you might not 

697
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,800
expect, much like Moss's 
university, where it's like, you

698
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,000
know, where kind of the message 
behind it's like, no, just 

699
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
because something's your dream 
doesn't mean you know you're 

700
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,160
destined for it or or that it 
was that it's yours to take. 

701
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,280
You know, like I would have 
liked some something like that 

702
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,880
where like maybe Mario comes to 
terms with like but but no, 

703
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,840
they'd leave it very they don't 
really really resolve that and 

704
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
they just more or less, I guess,
are kicking the can down the 

705
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:20,240
road for for him telling her how
he feels or I don't know, like 

706
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,640
you, like you said, it just sort
of ends and he just gives them a

707
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,640
kiss on the cheek and like next 
movie, I guess is still will 

708
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,720
they won't they, you know. 
Still counts I. 

709
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,440
Guess I mean, will they won't 
they works? 

710
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,680
I mean, they did it for years on
The X-Files and so many other 

711
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,640
shows like it. 
But I mean, like, I just feel 

712
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,040
like it would have been nice for
them to sort of address that in 

713
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,520
a way that is atypical maybe. 
And also just like, you know, 

714
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,320
yeah, that doesn't mean they had
to be together. 

715
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,800
They're they're friends. 
Do you know the ending of Mario 

716
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,200
Odyssey? 
I It's been a long time since 

717
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,400
I've played it. 
Mario. 

718
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,280
Back and has to kill all the 
court the people trying to court

719
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Peach while the sky is just some
other dude. 

720
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,240
Wrong Odyssey. 
I know people people often 

721
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,440
criticize the ending of Mario 64
where like, oh, at the end of 

722
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,400
all this, like Peaches makes 
them a cake. 

723
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,400
Big whoop. 
But then that last another 

724
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,240
discussion of just like, hey, 
she doesn't owe him anything. 

725
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,600
Like you think that, you know, 
she just become his girlfriend 

726
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,280
just because like, you know, 
actually. 

727
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
I'm going to disagree. 
I do think she owes him cake. 

728
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,840
I think that's actually an 
appropriate. 

729
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,280
Thing Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you 
know, like. 

730
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,920
He's gave my life. 
Here's a cake, I suppose. 

731
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,840
I think that's where I think 
like, oh, she owed him like to 

732
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,200
become his girlfriend or 
something. 

733
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Like, no, it's just freaking. 
It's your cake. 

734
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,760
Who doesn't like cake? 
Right, and as a cake American, 

735
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,160
I'm like pretty great, pretty 
good. 

736
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,120
I think. 
You know Brian, you mentioned 

737
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,120
like I wish Starfucks had been 
of surprise. 

738
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,280
I'm so glad I didn't know about 
Mr. Game Watch showing up in 

739
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,520
their big ink battle. 
Like I popped off because I 

740
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,880
didn't expect it and it so 
Bowser Junior after this movie. 

741
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,440
Jackie really like this movie. 
She hated this movie so much. 

742
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,320
It was like causing a fight on 
the way home, as Lisa and Brian 

743
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600
know. 
But that's kind of funny because

744
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,240
it sounds like you didn't love 
it either. 

745
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,520
But no, clearly you appreciate 
things about it too, so. 

746
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,400
I I was, I was really trying and
I was confused for a lot of this

747
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,400
movie. 
And I kept going like, wait, why

748
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,760
are they on this planet? 
How did they know to come to 

749
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,440
this planet? 
What is? 

750
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Magic. 
No, I'm there with you and 

751
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960
suddenly there's a there's a 
Bowser planet. 

752
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,560
And like, yeah, it just seemed a
little like this shouldn't be 

753
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,280
hard to follow, but it's hard to
follow. 

754
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440
So Jackie was trying to ask me 
what was going on, and I was 

755
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,120
trying to listen to figure out 
what was going on, which didn't 

756
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,680
work out in anybody's favor. 
But what was my point, though? 

757
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Yeah. 
So one of the questions she 

758
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,000
said, you know, on the way home,
she was like, why did Bowser 

759
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Junior have like a Marvel bad 
guy ink powers? 

760
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,840
Like, what was that? 
And like, I, I I don't know. 

761
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,320
It's such a visually cool 
fighting style kind of Green 

762
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,600
Lantern esque of creating these 
weapons out of the paint on his 

763
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,040
paintbrush. 
Yeah. 

764
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,680
And you know, that culminates in
him summoning one of the coolest

765
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,960
bosses from Mario Odyssey, the 
Ruined Dragon, which is this big

766
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,320
black and white dragon. 
And it's cool in the game 

767
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
because it's like the game is so
colorful, but you enter this 

768
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,400
stark, almost like Dark Souls 
esque area and you're like, what

769
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:30,960
is? 
This I just. 

770
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,080
I thought you were going to say 
you enter the dragon. 

771
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,240
Yeah, there you go. 
But I don't know, I just, I 

772
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,720
think something that just made 
me less interested in the movie 

773
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,840
was every conflict was solved 
with physical skill. 

774
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,320
It was always punch harder, jump
faster and I just I just. 

775
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:56,920
You may be one conflict that 
can't be, say, solved just with 

776
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,040
more and more force. 
Romantic ones, Mike, that should

777
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,440
have been more part of the 
story. 

778
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,000
That was a perfect answer. 
Oh my God, I'm going to leave 

779
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680
the zoom. 
Oh my God. 

780
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Just. 
Drop the mic and. 

781
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,360
But I don't know though, like I 
do like it a little more hearing

782
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,520
you guys talk about it and like 
the music cues and like it was 

783
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,720
just so pretty at points. 
It has its value. 

784
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,920
I mean, it's definitely a 
visually stunning movie and and 

785
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,640
and at least, you know, not that
it makes makes it a good movie 

786
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640
per SE, but of it like, but the 
the the fanservice, I feel like 

787
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,840
was handled very, very well in a
way that's not going to throw 

788
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,160
off people who are not who 
aren't, you know, enjoying the 

789
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,400
fanservice like you can you can 
enjoy. 

790
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,920
I mean, yeah, even even the 
stuff that like, because I know 

791
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,280
it wasn't one that was available
in North America, but did they 

792
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,600
use like the, what was it 
called, like the Superscope? 

793
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Yes. 
Yeah, the SNES, like little gun 

794
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,040
thing, that's how they turn the 
turn them into babies. 

795
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,600
But I'm going to count as this 
movie's nod to the 1990s Bob 

796
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Hoskins, Mario, because Bowser 
also uses a superscope in that 

797
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,760
movie. 
That's right. 

798
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,320
It's like the devolution ray. 
So I think I think that was 

799
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,800
their little nod because it 
turns them back into babies. 

800
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,040
Couple of scenes that really 
worked for me was the comedy of 

801
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,240
Yoshi trying to rescue Baby 
Mario and Baby Luigi from 

802
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:27,480
climbing in the T rex's mouth. 
And there's a scene where Baby 

803
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Luigi licks the T rex's open 
eyeball and you're just like. 

804
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,840
Oh my. 
God, so gross. 

805
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,120
I forgot about that moment. 
Yes, I was. 

806
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,080
I was hurting laughing at that 
because but hands. 

807
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Down. 
Hands down, Jackie and I agree 

808
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,440
that if there's something that 
makes this movie worth the 

809
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:50,200
ticket price, it's Yoshi's strut
to Hypnotize by Notorious BIG, 

810
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520
which is this cute little angle 
of his butt walking through and 

811
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,920
it's like the same stride the 
whole time. 

812
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,560
And he gets like a construction 
hat and bumper stickers, and he 

813
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,560
goes on this whole journey, and 
then it cuts back to Yoshi, 

814
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960
who's just been saying Yoshi, 
Yoshi, Yoshi over and over 

815
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,920
again. 
And Mario's like, I guess we'll 

816
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,440
never know how he got here. 
And it's so funny. 

817
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,840
I was that was great. 
That was that was the best part 

818
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,640
of it. 
And I really wouldn't have 

819
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,680
expected like a biggie needle 
drop. 

820
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,280
It was so. 
Good, though it was somehow 

821
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,600
perfect. 
That was like, the three things 

822
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,280
that I thought this did best 
were basically the Star Fox back

823
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,720
story in a different style. 
Yeah, that Yoshi back story, 

824
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,680
which I think is is the best 
looking part of the movie. 

825
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,320
Yes. 
And then also the puppet show 

826
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,680
with Bowser and Bowser Junior, 
which is again it's exposition 

827
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,680
sort of outside of the main 
narrative. 

828
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,920
And every time you left the 
story and did a little mini 

829
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,160
thing that was better. 
So I thought that Yoshi's butt 

830
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,480
was the best looking part of the
movie. 

831
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,480
It was. 
Just make sure we all clarify. 

832
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Honestly, the design of him too,
like that slow reveal of his 

833
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,000
face in the in the in the 
shadows, like, and how you just 

834
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,040
see that nose like it's just, 
it's they, they, they leaned 

835
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,240
into the cuteness of Yoshi in 
very well. 

836
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,760
And that back story. 
I just love so much that like 

837
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,080
that. 
It's just for the audience. 

838
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,400
It's, you know, it's, it's that 
that that dramatic irony, I 

839
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,000
guess, because ultimately nobody
understood him. 

840
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,600
Like like that was, if anything,
something I was slightly worried

841
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,560
about going into this movie. 
I was grateful to see that, you 

842
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,400
know, eventually from one of the
ads, maybe the first trailer 

843
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,200
that Yoshi was going to be 
introduced in this one, because 

844
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,880
like I said before, like I was 
like Super Mario Galaxy. 

845
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Why isn't it Super Mario World? 
In a lot of ways, this is a 

846
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,280
Super Mario world movie. 
Yoshi is introduced that they 

847
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,800
even like they showed like 
briefly an overworld map that 

848
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,160
looks very SNES style map. 
You know, like clearly they're 

849
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,120
they're they're harkening to to 
Super Mario world Galaxy. 

850
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,800
You know, that's all around the 
franchise, not even, you know, 

851
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200
even outside of even outside of 
Mario clearly. 

852
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,000
But but I remember when I heard 
that Yoshi was going to be in, I

853
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,800
was excited. 
Then I heard Donald Glover was 

854
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,160
voicing him and you know, like I
look, I've all all the love for 

855
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,600
Donald Glover and Childish 
Gambino, but I'm like, are they 

856
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,200
going to have him say things 
more than his name? 

857
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,800
Like I don't want him to be 
talking. 

858
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,360
He's like he's Yoshi, right. 
And I was very pleasantly 

859
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,920
surprised that they that Donald 
Glover plays Yoshi in a very 

860
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,200
like Alan Tudic as as Hey, hey, 
you know, the chicken, you know,

861
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,400
like just you know, he's mostly 
just doing noises and obviously 

862
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,880
every now and then he says his 
name. 

863
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,280
But like, I'm glad they didn't. 
They didn't broach beyond that. 

864
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,520
You know, literally he's telling
his back story and they're like 

865
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,760
gold. 
I guess we'll never know. 

866
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,960
Our friends from the Still 
Loading podcast, Mike, don't 

867
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,320
they know all about Yoshi's 
terrible voice in the Mario 

868
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,880
Super Show? 
Wasn't that a thing? 

869
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:47,520
Yeah. 
Talk, talk. 

870
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,240
Yes. 
Oh God, yeah. 

871
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,680
I feel like remember now talk so
but. 

872
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,800
It sets a very low bar. 
Yeah, in terms of Mario stories,

873
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,280
I guess there's a lot worse than
this. 

874
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,400
But that also, you know, I got 
to take Brian Segway about 

875
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,400
Yoshi's role, and yeah, he was. 
He was added to Super Mario 

876
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,800
Galaxy 2, and it was the first 
time he'd been a major part of a

877
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,560
3D Mario game. 
So that was a kind of a big 

878
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,800
deal. 
But the final battle, So Bowser 

879
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,800
has come back as Dry Bowser, 
which he's called because the 

880
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:27,000
skeletal koopas are dry bones. 
And so if Skelter Bowser is Dry 

881
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,560
Bowser, that means up until this
point he's been Wet Bowser. 

882
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,840
So wet Bowser. 
Bowser means you can just call 

883
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,400
regular koopas bone. 
What? 

884
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Correct. 
Thank you for being on my board,

885
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,800
Mike. 
I just figured which. 

886
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Means. 
He's, he's sober now. 

887
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,840
He was. 
He was, you know, yeah. 

888
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:46,360
So never Koopas are medical 
officers. 

889
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,560
What? 
What? 

890
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,840
Our bones on Star Trek. 
Wow. 

891
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,360
Long. 
Long, long no, Star Trek. 

892
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,280
Reference. 
No. 

893
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,800
You know what? 
We're smiling. 

894
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Maybe it didn't work. 
Respect, respect. 

895
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,480
It's Star Trek. 
So the final battle I got to 

896
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,920
give him credit like they they 
power up to fight dry Bowser and

897
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Bowser junior at the same time 
and Yoshi, Mario and Luigi all 

898
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,520
power up but you get power ups 
you have not seen represented in

899
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,880
this franchise before. 
So Mario becomes Drill Hat 

900
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:24,360
Mario, Luigi becomes Cloud 
Luigi, and Yoshi just inflates 

901
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,400
like a helium filled balloon. 
And then the battle, the battle 

902
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,840
kicks in. 
The battle kicks in and it's 

903
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080
raging and they're throwing 
power ups and Bowser's biting. 

904
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,960
And I had this thought of 
where's Yoshi? 

905
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,560
And then right on cue, he just 
floats into frame and kind of 

906
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,960
bunk. 
Like, do you remember that shot?

907
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,280
It was so funny. 
And Yoshi is helpless. 

908
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,200
To stop it. 
Wait, so I didn't know. 

909
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,040
I thought maybe those were like 
deep cut powers from a game I 

910
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,160
didn't play. 
You said that's the first time 

911
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,240
we've seen the drill in the. 
In the movie. 

912
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,400
In the okay. 
We've never seen those in the 

913
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,000
cinematic. 
They've been in the games. 

914
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,280
Okay, yeah, I guess I didn't. 
But my point though is like, you

915
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,200
know, you can't make him get a 
star, and that's hype. 

916
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,760
We already saw the Superstar 
takedown in the first movie. 

917
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,680
Yeah, that's Opie. 
So they. 

918
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,560
It is, that's what. 
It is invincibility. 

919
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,040
Yeah, well, and I, I love that 
sequence in the first movie. 

920
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,360
And I think my final thought on 
this is that just, I feel like 

921
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,560
the first movie had so many 
moments that really stick in my 

922
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,840
heart. 
Like when you realize that, you 

923
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,000
know, Brooklyn, the run through 
Brooklyn is a recreation of 1-1.

924
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,400
That was such a fun moment. 
The Mario Kart race, Peaches, 

925
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,840
right? 
And even that superstar finale. 

926
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,680
And I just don't think there's 
really much in here that 

927
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,520
approaches that level of like, 
cleverness. 

928
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,360
I feel like there should have 
been a Jack Black song about 

929
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,280
Bowser Junior. 
He should have sang to his son 

930
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,760
or something. 
I don't know. 

931
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
I just feel like there were 
things that I wanted it to do 

932
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,040
and it just kind of kept doing 
the same thing over and over, 

933
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:04,240
which is like a animated stunt 
show, but without any emotion 

934
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,360
attached to what was happening. 
An animated action sequence is 

935
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,160
not really as good as a live 
action action sequence because 

936
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,320
that doesn't have the same 
oomph. 

937
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,800
I'm not. 
My body's not reacting like it's

938
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,760
real as easily as if it was a 
live action 1. 

939
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,080
So I think if you're going to 
make an action movie, I think 

940
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,720
this is just an action slash 
adventure movie. 

941
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,960
And to make that work in 
animation, I just think you need

942
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,200
a stronger emotional core to 
everything. 

943
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,440
No, I agree. 
If anything, like I like that 

944
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,040
you, you know, if anything, like
I kind of got reminded by you 

945
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,560
that they started in Brooklyn in
the in the first movie and that 

946
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,520
like, and they even brilliant 
brilliantly use that as a set 

947
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,040
piece to show off, you know, 
recreating like a, you know, the

948
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,280
classic scene from the game. 
And like, but at the same time, 

949
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,720
ultimately that gives the first 
movie more of a narrative arc 

950
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:57,920
for if not Mario than the 
brothers, that that kind of 

951
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,000
becomes the the backbone of that
story. 

952
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,600
Yeah. 
Was I feel like there's not 

953
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,960
enough of 1 here. 
Or if there is like, maybe they 

954
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,720
should have learned more into 
Peach in that in that sense. 

955
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,960
But, you know, but it's still 
kind of called the Super Mario 

956
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Galaxy movie. 
And, and, you know, as Mike 

957
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,520
mentioned before, yeah, it's 
like if, if, like Mario, the 

958
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,160
titular character seems to be 
the least developed and the 

959
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,000
least consequential to 
everything that's happening. 

960
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Yes, you can shift away from 
that, but you actually have to 

961
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,120
make that as a conscious choice.
Yeah, yeah. 

962
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,000
Yeah, I feel they tried to. 
But even with Peach's story, 

963
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,920
while it was the main story, it 
it falls short. 

964
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,280
Like they're like, oh, you know,
Rosalina had to send Peach away,

965
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,880
but we don't delve into why that
was just, oh, something bad was 

966
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,160
going to happen. 
And then and then they get 

967
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:46,800
together. 
You. 

968
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,640
Don't even really know what the 
threat is, right? 

969
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,160
She just sends her baby. 
Yeah. 

970
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,520
She just sends her baby sister 
away and apparently has been 

971
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,440
watching over her the entire 
time. 

972
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,440
Yeah, and if anything like. 
Worries of everybody. 

973
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,960
And if you want to feel good 
about what she did there, we 

974
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,640
should know what the threat was.
It did feel weird that that was 

975
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,240
just sort of tacked on again, 
yeah. 

976
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,280
Like it was. 
Tacked in the beginning and then

977
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,440
their powers coming together and
then that was the end of the 

978
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,320
movie. 
And it was like, OK, but why? 

979
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Why was Peach sent away? 
Why was Rosalina watching her 

980
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,080
and not saying, hey, you have a 
sister, you know, or you have 

981
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,320
family? 
Because Peach has been raised by

982
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,520
the toads. 
It felt like it was trying to 

983
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,840
avoid the thing that apparently 
they can do with just one of 

984
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,000
them, which is use the power of 
just one of them to destroy 

985
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,560
stuff. 
Like if it had been that they 

986
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,000
got her and now they have to 
also get Peach because you have 

987
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,080
to capture both of them, then I 
feel like that would work. 

988
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,600
But like when capturing just one
is enough to be a problem, then 

989
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,560
you lose the why you have to why
do you have to separate them 

990
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,000
kind of thing. 
Also, mine are bone to pick with

991
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,240
that storyline about how they're
like, oh, we we were princesses 

992
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:04,680
made, made, made of Stardust. 
And like, I mean, I know Mike 

993
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,880
will appreciate as a fellow Dr. 
Carl Sagan fan, we're all 

994
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,160
Stardust there. 
It's not so. 

995
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,080
They're more Stardust, yeah. 
Maybe that's the moral all 

996
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,040
along. 
I'm. 

997
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:19,160
I'm more annoyed that when they 
decide to like fix the Bowser 

998
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,880
planet and it's covered in 
vegetation. 

999
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,480
Oh yeah, that was weird. 
The the the roller coasters are 

1000
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,040
gone. 
Those aren't inherently evil. 

1001
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,640
Roller coasters can be good. 
Why did that place get so much 

1002
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,880
less cool? 
Yeah. 

1003
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,560
Because they have no 
imagination, Peach or Rosalina 

1004
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,720
I. 
Guess. 

1005
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,440
I don't know. 
But it's just I think their 

1006
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,960
power was more creating things. 
And so basically it took what my

1007
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:53,320
guess is it took what was that 
malice and hate and metal and 

1008
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,840
not natural and turned it into 
natural staff. 

1009
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,520
Wooden roller coasters. 
Don't think so hard, yeah? 

1010
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,280
They're made from little plant 
skeletons. 

1011
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:10,800
So now that Mike is disappointed
at the downfall of the Bowser 

1012
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,960
theme park, I'm going to 
disappoint Brian. 

1013
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,520
Brian all night before we saw, 
we went to Yard House before and

1014
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,800
he was trying to beat my Bowser 
time and he did. 

1015
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,280
He did. 
He beat me by a few milliseconds

1016
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,800
and I gave him the E shop gift 
card as agreed. 

1017
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,640
I mean, you did tell me 
beforehand that you know what do

1018
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,320
I need to? 
Do this right. 

1019
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Now, or like right before the 
movie. 

1020
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,080
But there we go. 
I, I, I did it on the drive home

1021
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,720
at least. 
And you told me that anytime 

1022
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:41,280
that evening I could I could 
beat you. 

1023
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:48,040
So I tied, I tied you, Brian. 
We have the exact same time now,

1024
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160
down to the millisecond. 
Does that mean I have to get 

1025
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,640
back the prize? 
Yes, I want. 

1026
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,360
That. 
Apparently. 

1027
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,040
Apparently it is possible to 
beat this time, but you it's 

1028
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,760
like only two people have ever 
been recorded as doing. 

1029
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,000
It I mean, it's like you 
mentioned, like because I at 

1030
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,280
some point, you know, on on 
Lisa's advice, because I was 

1031
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,360
having trouble with the certain 
stuff. 

1032
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,160
She's like, well, just watch 
what watch what Jeremy did. 

1033
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,640
That was the first time I 
actually sat and watched your 

1034
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,840
playthrough and I realized, Oh, 
you don't. 

1035
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,120
You didn't slow down at all. 
You were running, you were 

1036
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,120
running P speed, so to speak, 
and like, and you don't like you

1037
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,040
never strike anything. 
You never pause for anything. 

1038
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,800
So I literally thought for a 
second, like you, I can't beat 

1039
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,440
your speed, I think you're going
maximum. 

1040
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,360
But then you reminded me that I 
guess if you keep your jumps 

1041
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,640
low, you're technically going a 
little bit faster. 

1042
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,320
OK so for context they didn't 
properly introduce this to the 

1043
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,080
listeners and some people 
probably confused. 

1044
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,080
I have Nintendo World 
Championships on my switch and I

1045
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,080
was challenging Brian to beat my
fastest Bowser time. 

1046
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,120
It's the Bowser level. 
You can beat it in 15 seconds if

1047
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,000
you know exactly what to do. 
And so Brian was trying over and

1048
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,160
over to beat my time. 
And I got a kick out of the best

1049
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,800
scene in this movie being the 
Bowser Bridge fight. 

1050
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,960
And I'm like, Brian's been 
failing at this all day long. 

1051
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,680
And here it is right in front of
him. 

1052
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,600
But yeah, that was that was 
funny. 

1053
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,240
But I guess the only way to beat
I guess now our, our time, our 

1054
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,920
time is just to like keep, keep 
lower. 

1055
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,280
We'll work on it. 
We'll. 

1056
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,120
Work on it. 
Damn. 

1057
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,360
I mean that that's some speed 
run shit. 

1058
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Like it's like, that's so close.
Did we have any reaction to the 

1059
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,200
post credits scene? 
Daisies big debut Daisy shows 

1060
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,600
up. 
And by the way, Lisa, that was 

1061
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:35,560
not Ukiki from Zelda, that was 
Kiki from Super Mario World 2. 

1062
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,960
You got the names backwards, but
yes, OK. 

1063
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,920
I was about to say I thought 
there was a Kiki but. 

1064
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,640
No, it was the they look super 
similar. 

1065
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,840
Though they look super similar 
and their names are super 

1066
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,760
similar. 
Cuz I looked it up afterwards 

1067
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,520
cuz I was like is that the 
monkey that was in link to the 

1068
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,560
past? 
Like that's, that's crazy. 

1069
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,000
I didn't realize he was like a 
Mario thing. 

1070
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,160
And then I looked it up and it 
was like, no, you're wrong. 

1071
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,320
I mean just have the chain shops
from links awakening. 

1072
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,640
Ah, there you go, Mike. 
I see what you did there. 

1073
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,680
It's funny though. 
Even that little monkey is 

1074
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,120
played by a comedian. 
It's Roxana Ortega. 

1075
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,360
She was like on New Girl. 
Really casting anybody to be 

1076
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,800
like, oh, what do you want to do
as a voice? 

1077
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Let's just can you? 
You want to bark like a dog? 

1078
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:20,160
But so Minecraft spoilers from 
Minecraft Sonic 3 and this 

1079
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,480
movie. 
But Minecraft ends introducing 

1080
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,880
the female counterpart Alex. 
Sonic 3 ends, introducing the 

1081
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,920
female counterpart Amy Rose and 
now. 

1082
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,600
Galaxy ends. 
Galaxy ends introducing. 

1083
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,360
I mean, I guess it's not the 
female counterpart. 

1084
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,240
The third female counterpart. 
It's just. 

1085
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,800
Interesting that Daisy is being 
introduced. 

1086
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,920
Yeah, at this point, given that,
because didn't she first appear 

1087
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,760
in Super Mario Land like for 
Game Boy or something? 

1088
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,480
He predates Rosalina by a lot I 
think. 

1089
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,600
Yeah, she does for sure. 
Yeah, cuz. 

1090
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,600
Rosalina doesn't matter. 
I mean honestly, you know, 

1091
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,720
you're right cuz it's pulling 
from all the franchise at the 

1092
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:02,280
same time kinda so. 
She's a fan favorite though. 

1093
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,440
She's like there's a whole memes
about her being super chaotic 

1094
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,680
and like super, you know what I 
mean? 

1095
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,160
Yes, yes, the Internet culture 
around her is very beloved and 

1096
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,200
very just random chaos brain 
rot. 

1097
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,240
Like I'm kind of here for it. 
I mean and. 

1098
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,600
I really. 
Starts off with Chaos from just 

1099
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,520
being named Daisy. 
I think it's utterly insane that

1100
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Daisy is short. 
For Margaret, that is. 

1101
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,960
Nuts. 
Daisy is short for. 

1102
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,560
Margaret. 
Yes. 

1103
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,920
Is it, Isn't it crazy enough 
that Margaret can be shortened 

1104
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,600
to Peggy that that can be Daisy 
too? 

1105
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,480
OK. 
You have to go through like, you

1106
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,520
have to go through like French 
flower names. 

1107
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
I mean, how many names do 
Margaret's get? 

1108
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Like jeez, like all of them. 
You cannot cut out the paws of 

1109
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,600
us waiting for your point. 
We're like, how is Daisy crazy, 

1110
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,200
man? 
You know what, You win. 

1111
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,920
OK, guys. 
Any other final thoughts before 

1112
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,720
we go on to our verdicts? 
Well, it would be nice that the 

1113
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,720
to get a very different 
characterization of Daisy that 

1114
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,040
leans into kind of what you were
saying, Jeremy, because like, 

1115
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,880
you know, because in part maybe 
because this was kind of Peaches

1116
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,000
story and Rosalina was sort of, 
you know, the dental distress in

1117
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,680
a lot of ways for the bulk of 
it. 

1118
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,000
We're not shown a great deal to 
show how different they are, But

1119
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,280
if Daisy is like, significantly 
a different character, that'd be

1120
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,480
really fun to see that dynamic, 
presuming that that's meant to 

1121
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,280
be a singer for the next movie, 
right? 

1122
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Right. 
Yeah. 

1123
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,680
I feel like I spent most of this
movie just going, obviously 

1124
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,880
they're related. 
I just don't know if this is a 

1125
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,840
mother, daughter or sisters 
relationship. 

1126
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,040
It's obviously that. 
Right. 

1127
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,680
I I didn't see it coming, but 
also. 

1128
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,240
Wow, 2 blonde women. 
They all look the same and are 

1129
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,120
related. 
Wow, wow. 

1130
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,720
They ended up being. 
Sisters. 

1131
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,760
They also have the same first 
name. 

1132
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,440
Yeah, Princess. 
Likes on fire. 

1133
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,920
All right, you guys. 
So I could see that being 

1134
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,320
something Canon too. 
Isn't this also like I mean I 

1135
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,880
don't know it might just be 
Canon to the first live action 

1136
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,160
movie but the whole like Mario 
Mario Luigi Mario thing or 

1137
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,680
didn't that become Canon? 
Jokingly, at an interview, he 

1138
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,000
was asked what their full name 
is and he goes Mario, Mario, you

1139
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,440
know? 
It would be the thing that best 

1140
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,960
make the Mario Brothers make 
sense. 

1141
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,480
You know, Mike and Tom aren't 
the Mike brothers. 

1142
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,840
But I like that it's like a game
with like, mushrooms that make 

1143
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,240
you grow and you throw 
fireballs. 

1144
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,040
And that's not how names work. 
It's like you can't suspend your

1145
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,400
disbelief. 
Realism is a little bit thrown 

1146
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,720
out the window. 
I I got you. 

1147
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,320
Well, you know, and just got to 
be said, you know, for my boy 

1148
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,640
Kyle, that should have been 
Wario and the Waluigi. 

1149
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,560
Like I just I think I think 
Lisa, we got a we got a we got a

1150
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,720
little crunchy with this series.
OK, they're playing it to save. 

1151
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,640
I want some fart jokes next 
movie, like come on, Wario. 

1152
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,920
Whoa, Wario wear TV show. 
But it's like Tim and Eric, like

1153
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,120
random. 
I think you should leave skits. 

1154
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,080
No, OK, there's something there.
There's something there. 

1155
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,240
Well guys, we're going to wrap 
that up for today. 

1156
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,400
We've covered the joy pros and 
joy cons and every bit in 

1157
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,560
between. 
So it's time to declare the 

1158
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Super Mario Galaxy movie a 
Nintendo or a Nintendo don't. 

1159
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,720
I would like to start with Lisa.
Well, clearly, I think it's a 

1160
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Nintendo. 
I guess if you didn't like the 

1161
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,880
first one, you should like this 
one. 

1162
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,960
I guess. 
I don't know. 

1163
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,840
That's how I've worked. 
I didn't like the first like the

1164
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:42,160
second. 
I, I have like a family group 

1165
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,680
text where we like rate movies 
and our rules that if you regret

1166
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,000
watching it, it has to be below 
A5. 

1167
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,280
And I was kind of a four this 
morning. 

1168
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,680
I was really disappointed by 
this movie. 

1169
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:58,760
I just, I just really wanted 
something to latch onto 

1170
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,440
narratively, emotionally, 
thematically, and there's just 

1171
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,840
nothing there. 
And every time I thought it was 

1172
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,640
going to do something different 
or interesting, it pivoted. 

1173
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,240
It's like, no, don't make any 
romantic tension. 

1174
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,720
Don't make Bowser and Bowser 
Junior have an interesting 

1175
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,760
dynamic. 
Don't make Rosalina and Peach 

1176
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,640
have an interesting tension. 
It's just like everyone gets 

1177
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,440
along except for the ones they 
don't. 

1178
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,840
And it just felt overly simple. 
But in discussing it with you 

1179
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,840
guys, I think I'm a reluctant 
Nintendo. 

1180
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,320
I think there was enough fun 
things to talk about and like I 

1181
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,000
was lighting up talking about 
the things that made me laugh 

1182
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,240
and the cool moments. 
So I think I maybe didn't like 

1183
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,360
this movie because I was trying 
to sit there and watch it 

1184
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,240
quietly. 
I think this might be I think 

1185
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,320
this might be a streaming 
Nintendo. 

1186
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,720
Sure. 
But is that still an intend? 

1187
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,040
I don't. 
I don't know if this is worth 

1188
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,720
going to theaters, but I think 
it would be totally. 

1189
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,760
You could do worse with an 
afternoon if you're going to 

1190
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,680
stream it with, especially with 
some friends. 

1191
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,280
I've seen worse in theaters. 
Sure, sure. 

1192
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,800
So Mike, is that a Nintendo 
because I'm saying you should 

1193
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,040
stream it just but don't see it 
in theaters or is that a 

1194
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,440
Nintendo don't see it in 
theaters? 

1195
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,440
I don't know how this works with
screen. 

1196
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,760
I feel like it's a Nintendo for.
It's an Nintendo. 

1197
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,360
OK, OK, well don't, don't, don't
break your back to go see it. 

1198
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,480
You can put the caveat there of,
you know, wait till it comes to.

1199
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,800
Streaming. 
That's fair. 

1200
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,080
Yeah, or I really suspect this 
might be a fun forty XI think 

1201
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,840
that might have been the missing
piece that, you know, there was 

1202
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,640
a lot of scenes or like, I mean,
I'm almost tempted to try it. 

1203
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,560
Well, in that case, that gives 
me a little bit more confidence 

1204
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,040
in because because in saying, I 
guess I'm going to be the sole 

1205
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,960
Nintendo on this. 
I was almost there. 

1206
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,400
I was, I was, I was. 
I came in on that, Brian. 

1207
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,720
I was expecting you to be a 
Nintendo on this and you like 

1208
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,800
you said, you like by the 
Strauss family rating system, 

1209
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,800
you would have given this a 
four. 

1210
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,520
I would, I would, I would give 
this A5, but that puts me 

1211
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,080
entirely on the fence of like 
when you say like Nintendo or 

1212
01:02:55,080 --> 01:03:01,200
Nintendo or Nintendo, like if 
it's got to be a I look, I mean,

1213
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,840
there's things I appreciate 
about it, but like, I, I don't 

1214
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,640
know, I can't overlook the fact 
that I think this movie is a lot

1215
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,160
of style and hardly much 
substance. 

1216
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,120
There was potential there. 
But yeah, let me be the sole 

1217
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,560
dissenter in that case. 
I think this is a slight 

1218
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,600
Nintendo in that like it was, 
it's almost there. 

1219
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,200
I. 
Don't even feel comfortable 

1220
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,240
doing the the complete positive 
or negative like like you know 

1221
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,320
the coin thing on this because, 
like I said, I feel I feel most 

1222
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,640
comfortable with a 5 out of 10 
on this one. 

1223
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,840
You know, but the. 
That's an F. 

1224
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,480
So Nintend maybe, but. 
Yeah, you're right. 

1225
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,880
I guess that is an F Technically
it's an F plus. 

1226
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,520
Here's the wild thing, though. 
I think Mike's gonna actually 

1227
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,720
surprise you, Mike. 
What do you think? 

1228
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,280
I think I. 
Know his answer. 

1229
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:53,600
The first movie I gave three out
of five stars that was, which is

1230
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,760
what I consider to be like. 
It didn't have anything that 

1231
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,840
that really stood out to me. 
Like a six out of 10. 

1232
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,800
Good enough? 
Yeah, this one, this one I gave 

1233
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:08,040
2 1/2 out of five that it's got 
some bits that I like, but it it

1234
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,440
feels like it is too many gaps. 
So I'm at that same. 

1235
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,520
You're at the same 5 out of 10 
then. 

1236
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,480
Yeah, where I'm like, it's hard 
for me to say like, yeah, you 

1237
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,160
should check it out. 
Like it's not at the point of me

1238
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,880
being so yeah, you should check 
it out, but it's hard to be 

1239
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,560
like, avoid it. 
Well, here's the fun thing, if 

1240
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,920
you're a Nintend, don't we get 
to throw it to the Discord? 

1241
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,080
And I feel like a lot of people 
are going to see this movie. 

1242
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,560
So, Mike? 
Will you strike it? 

1243
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,080
Down. 
All right, guys. 

1244
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,920
Well, that means it's a tie. 
We're going to call that game 

1245
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,480
over for today. 
Our final verdict, the Super 

1246
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,560
Mario Galaxy movie, is up to 
you, so be sure to go to 

1247
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,640
www.theoldswitcharoo.com to get 
the link to our Discord and 

1248
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,480
chime in on the discussion and 
vote and be heard. 

1249
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,520
Brian, Lisa, thank you so much, 
both of you for always 

1250
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,600
supporting the show and sharing 
your candy at the theater Friday

1251
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,000
night. 
Before you get on out of here, 

1252
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,640
Brian, why don't you remind us 
where we can find all of your 

1253
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,000
cosplay and your activism and 
all that cool stuff? 

1254
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,320
Well, I'm on Instagram and 
Tiktok at Brian with AY dot S 

1255
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,000
dot Lee and I'm on YouTube at 
Brian Lee. 

1256
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,840
I was able to claim that no, no 
middle initials, no periods or 

1257
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,000
anything. 
So like you're. 

1258
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,480
Flagging that one. 
Yeah. 

1259
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,000
OK. 
Anyway, and a show with Brian 

1260
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,520
and it currently has an active 
Facebook. 

1261
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,920
Would you mind telling us about 
that real quick? 

1262
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,320
Yeah, you should check out Geek 
Pop. 

1263
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,720
We are geek popping on Facebook 
cuz that's what we could grab. 

1264
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,400
We we're still hiatus. 
We're not over, but we're not 

1265
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,160
really producing much content. 
But the Facebook page still 

1266
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,600
goes. 
For pop. 

1267
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,400
Culture. 
Yep. 

1268
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,200
No, it's it. 
Yeah, it's we cover pop anything

1269
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,120
and everything in pop culture. 
So check it out. 

1270
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,040
We want to be popping you geek. 
Yeah, you know what? 

1271
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,400
Fingers crossed for a reboot, 
it's going to be a thing. 

1272
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,360
Hey, it's, it's, it's, it's just
time. 

1273
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,200
And it we're all a little 
discombobulated right now where 

1274
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,720
we used to film it all together 
in the same studio. 

1275
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,480
So it's like we know we can do 
it digital, but we liked doing 

1276
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,160
it together. 
So it's finding that place. 

1277
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,120
But the Facebook is still 
running, it's still up and 

1278
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,120
going. 
And I Chris maintains that and 

1279
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,880
it's, you know, he's always 
posting cool stuff, like half 

1280
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,320
the stuff I see on there. 
I'm like, oh, I didn't know 

1281
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,000
that. 
It's a good scroll. 

1282
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,440
Oh, that sounds Northeast. 
Excellent. 

1283
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,280
Everyone join us next time we'll
be busting aliens and the Sega 

1284
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,680
Genesis arcade classic Alien 
Storm. 

1285
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,480
Also remember to like, follow, 
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1286
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,840
Roo and rate or review the show 
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1287
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,720
You can also visit 
www.theoldswitcharoo.com to find

1288
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,120
all our social media links. 
And we'd love to hear what you 

1289
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,280
thought about this episode or 
what you're hoping to hear in 

1290
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,600
future episodes. 
As always, thanks for listening 

1291
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,160
to the old Switch a Roo. 
We'll be talking gaming retro 

1292
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,680
with Mike and J MO. 
I've been. 

1293
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,400
And I'm jamo game on everyone. 
One more wahoo, Lisa.