S4E03: Tecmo Bowl -or- Tackling the Issues

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Ready down.
Or in other words, it's time for

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the old switcheroo where we're
talking gaming retro with Mike

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and Jamo.
I'm Mike.

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And I'm Jamo join us on our epic
quest to research and review all

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300 plus games in the Nintendo
Classics catalog.

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Today we are tossing and
tackling our way through an all

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time classic Techno Bowl for the
NES.

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In an episode we are calling
Tackling the Issues Punt

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intended.
If you like what you're here,

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don't forget to like, subscribe
and of course, play along.

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Jordan's already upset.
Hold on Jordan, I haven't

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introduced you yet, Mike.
Football's A-Team sport, right?

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I think the old switcheroo needs
some rivals to face off with the

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line of scrimmage.
Any idea we could find a pair of

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heavy hitters?
Yeah, I think we've got a great

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away team here in Arcadiology
with Brad and Jordan joining us

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both making their return
appearances.

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Hello, hello.
I'm back.

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In full gear, I know you can't
see that listeners, but take

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take a.
Screenshot and post it for the

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listeners.
It'll be hard.

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He went hard.
He's he's, he's fully geared up.

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I can't even really see his eyes
like.

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He's we're in there, dude.
I got I got the visor on my face

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mask.
It's incredible.

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Hey, Brad, thanks for joining
us.

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Well, how are you doing, Brad?
Absolutely, man.

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I'm excited to be back this
time, both of us at once, so

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we'll see how this one goes.
It's going to be great.

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So yeah, we were honored to.
I was I was hoping that that the

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subtitle on this episode was
going to be We didn't come here

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just to look for trouble, but
but I was not expecting you to

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know to make a reference to the
1985 Chicago Bears song, the

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Super Bowl Shuffle.
The Super Bowl show.

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Oh my God, we're just here to do
the Super Bowl Shuffle.

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Wow.
OK, See, This is why Brad and

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Jordan are here.
Or just Jordan, I guess.

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Brad Jordan.
To me, man, I don't know what's

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going on.
Well, it's awesome because you

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guys host the Arcadiology
podcast.

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It's just this treasure trove of
covering old arcade games.

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Mike was on it for Joe and Mac
Returns which was a super fun

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episode.
I actually was listening to your

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Ghosts and Goblins episode today
and I don't know that.

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Game is rough, it's brutal.
But here's the thing though, I

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did something that I don't know
if anyone ever done with your

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podcast.
It was my music during my VR

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boxing workout.
So I was like in a virtual

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boxing ring.
And every time Jordan would go

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like her, like I wouldn't know
if it was the boxer or wait.

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Wait, wait, what did I do?
Like you'd go like like like.

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I don't even know what that
means.

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It's like a thinking sound.
It's a thinking sound.

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Interesting.
I don't.

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I just don't think I ever
noticed that I do that.

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Full disclosure, it may have
been the VR boxer.

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I have no real way to tell it.
Could have been.

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Yeah, I wanted to know though,
you know, so we met you guys,

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Jordan came on our Star Fox
Trilogy episode and then Brad

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was on our Treasure Shooter
episode with Gun Star Heroes and

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sent in Punishment.
So that's how Switcheroo met

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Brad and Jordan.
How did Brad and Jordan start

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the podcast together?
How do you guys kind of what's

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your origin story?
I mean, I kind of just randomly,

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I mean, I listen to a lot of
podcasts at work.

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I was like, it's kind of might
be fun to do.

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I know like playing video games.
Both of my brothers play, Jordan

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plays with us, we do stuff like
that.

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So I was just thinking up an
idea of a podcast to do and I

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have a arcade one up cabinet
that I modded a few years back.

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It was collecting dust for a
while and I was just trying to

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think of an excuse to start
playing through the thousands of

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games on there because it's just
loaded with so many games and

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I'll never be able to play them
all.

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And then I just kind of came to
the conclusion Be fun to do a

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podcast on the arcade games
because they're pretty easy to

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pick up and play pretty short.
So I just pitched the idea to

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our group chat where we usually
talk about gaming and whatnot,

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and everyone was pretty much
immediately on board and there's

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all kind of group effort.
We kind of put all the pieces

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together and it just came along
pretty nicely.

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You guys go deep on those games
too, like you A.

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Lot of those are not exactly
games anyone has heard of No,

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we're really, we're really
digging them up dude.

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He has Brad put together a list
of how many hundreds of arcade

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games you pretty much just
scrolled through.

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Was it my cabinet you scrolled
through at one point in time and

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looked a few up and.
Both.

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Yeah, mine and yours.
Went through SIFT.

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Sifted through them both to get
some ideas.

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Yeah.
And you're like, this sounds

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cool, this sounds cool.
And here we haven't heard of 90%

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of these games.
And I kind of, I feel like

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that's the beauty of it is we
are coming in to pretty much 90

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ish percent of these games
completely fresh.

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So we're giving a whole new
perspective.

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It's not like, oh, this is
Pac-Man.

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We've all played Pac-Man.
You know how Pac-Man works.

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This is what what are some of
the weird ones we played like

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bio, whatever toy and probably
no one's hurt.

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Probably.
Yeah, no one's hurt of these.

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That's kind of what makes it
interesting.

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But I think what's really fun, I
don't know if the younger

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generation can relate to this,
but like, I used to walk around

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arcades and just pretend I was
playing and just watch longingly

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because like, you know, my
family didn't have the money to

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just blow on, you know, the, the
more especially games like Prop

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Cycle, it's like $2.00 a play.
I'm like, no way.

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Yeah.
So to hear you guys talk about

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these games that I stared at
longingly as a kid, it's it's a

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fun time.
OK guys.

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So without further ado, I think
the ball is not going to snap

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itself.
You're ready to run some plays.

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What does that mean?
What is does Hut have a meaning?

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OK, so.
It's kind of like a house.

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Technically.
Crime Lord Technically, no.

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Every quarterback has their own
cadence.

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It's kind of just the offense's
way of knowing when he wants the

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ball.
You don't actually have to say

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Hut a lot of them just do.
Someone will just say go.

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Someone will just say ready yet
and they'll get the ball.

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It's just, it's just the way
that they say things to let the

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offense know, hey, it's time to
go.

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Gotcha.
Well, let's dive into Techno

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Bowl for the NES, released in 19
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As described on Nintendo
Classics, match your gridiron

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skills against the computer or
another human player from the

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snap.
Total control of every pass,

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run, and tackle is in your
hands.

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The player can select from 12
teams.

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On offense, there are two run
and two pass plays to choose

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from, which is not entirely
true.

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The defense consists of trying
to guess which offensive play

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the opponent will select and
then taking control of one of

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the defensive players before the
snap.

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A simple power meter system is
used for kicking field goals,

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extra points, and punts.
So pretty straightforward I

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think.
Let's take a look at the box

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art, since that was often
people's first impression in

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North America.
We have a close up of a white

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man staring down the camera.
His face and his football helmet

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are smeared with mud.
The stark green Techno Bowl logo

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is centered above and various
logos and gameplay features

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described below.
Jordan, you snickered.

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You got feelings about the
Techno Bowl box art?

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I snickered because you
specified it was just a white

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guy.
I didn't say just a white guy.

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Well, it really is.
This is just a white guy.

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We have no idea who this man is.
Yeah, what he's referring to is

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that they did not get a picture
of an actual player, which is

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weird because one of the stand
out things of this game is that

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they had a licensing deal with
the National Football League

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players.
So, you know, they used, when

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this game was released, actual
names and actual stats to the

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point that actually landed them
in some legal hot water.

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So why wouldn't you?
I don't know.

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Why would you get an actor?
Maybe they didn't want to pay

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him.
Probably.

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That's fair.
I thought it was funny in the

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bottom right.
Mike, do you see what's being

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advertised in the bottom right
corner of this box art?

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Let's see, it says total control
of key players and then it says

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scouting reports included.
Yeah, that's like he was odd.

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Maybe.
Was this the thing that did this

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come with material?
Additional material beyond the

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manual.
As far as I can tell, no.

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It's just that in the top right
hand corner of gameplay, you can

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see the statistics for the
player that you are actually

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controlling as of 1989.
So kind of an interesting

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wrinkle, but kind of thought it
was sort of strange to

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advertise.
I don't really see that being a

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selling point.
That's not scouting reports.

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What?
That's not scouting reports

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though.
Well, and what would you call

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that?
Stats.

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Yeah, I feel like they're trying
to use some buzzwords.

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I don't know.
Stats are also a buzzword, but

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that's that's what they're
doing.

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Scouting reports are like Here's
what they're Here's what you

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need to know in advance.
So I sort of misled you guys

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because I was sort of
criticizing it because this

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isn't a real player.
But if you use a real player,

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you'd probably have to use a
real helmet, a real team logo,

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right?
I.

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Don't think so.
Well, I mean, what?

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Just their face with no helmet.
Even Jordan helmeted up for

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this.
Like you got to have a helmet on

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a football.
Player you can just use a

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helmet.
Well.

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Just use Jordan.
It is a yeah.

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Use me.
Put me on the cover, I'll go

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back in time.
Did you guys notice that the

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teams in this game are described
only by city or state?

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Yeah, I guess so.
Yes, yeah, I struggle with that

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because I don't know any of the
teams.

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I don't know a lot about
football.

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So I was trying to figure out
which team to pick.

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I was like, I don't know which
one to use.

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Yeah.
You're like I heard the Raiders

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are OP but who is that?
Yeah, which ones?

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The Raiders?
What city or state are they

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from?
I have no idea.

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Well, back then it's it's a
different team than what it is

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now, so a different city.
So that's fair.

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So they were sort of painted
into a legal corner with this

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because they got the licensing
deal with the National Football

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League players, but company LJN
got the rights to the team names

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and mascots and logos.
The rights for the NFL were

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split between these two
competing games.

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And so the LJN game is not
allowed to use actual player

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names or, you know, actual
statistics or anything like

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that.
It can't be the players, but

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they get the teams.
And the sort of interesting

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thing that this caused is that
they would stay away from using

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the actual team names when it
came to Nintendo Switch Online

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and the Virtual Console.
What do we think before we get

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to that?
What do you think of the

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Japanese boxer?
Do we like it better, Jordan?

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I mean, there's a little bit
more action going on.

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It's not just some white guy.
Yes, it's several guys of

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nebulous.
Is that like a really knock off

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Buffalo Bills logo on the
helmet?

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It's something.
Yeah, it.

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Looks like it.
It's a painting of two players

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on offense 1 running the ball
towards the customer while his

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teammate defends him from a
flying ass grab by the opposing

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team.
But there is like a nice implied

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sense of movement.
I think there's the blurring

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lines just blending colors.
Layout's a bit cluttered and

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hard to read, so I kind of
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me down.
Mike, what do you think?

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I mean, I don't.
See what how you find that like

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cluttered like it's a shot of a
play that looks pretty pretty

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standard and then it says Tecmo
Bowl and it almost.

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I think this is probably
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the fact that it's that image
with like this blue border

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around it feels very like
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The fact that there's a #12
there makes me think that this

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is in fact just actually like a
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And I have put my own cultural
context on this but like to me I

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see this much closer as like
trading card.

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That's cool.
I didn't even think about that.

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OK, you won me over.
I guess what I was saying by

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Clutter is that to me, the guy
tackling like, I don't really

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know where his arm is going or
where his other arm went.

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Like.
I feel like there's some anatomy

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missing I don't know.
I think it looks more normal to

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watch a lot of football and have
a lot of situations where it's

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like, well, that's where the
that's the angle the camera had.

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So what's not in frame?
I don't know.

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Yeah, get you, I get you.
Just means that it's very

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unlikely that any call here is
going to be overturned.

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So the game was directed by
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We will enjoy his work again
when we cover Pokémon Mystery

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Dungeon Red Rescue team for the
Game Boy Advance.

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Jordan, we just learned that.
Well, I just learned that you

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have a Pokémon tattoo.
Would you ever play rescue team?

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No, but I think I have a copy of
it like behind me here that my

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friend got it for me for my
birthday once.

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Very cool.
Yeah, it's a Game Boy Advance

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game, sort of like a dungeon
crawler, where you play as the

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Pokémon themselves.
And as a fun little personality

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test to see which Pokémon you
are so excited to get to that I

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got some technical trivia for
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The Jumbotron displayed between
quarters in Techno Bowl features

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advertisement of two other games
in the Nintendo Classics

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catalog, Ninja Gaiden, which we
reviewed with Timmy Williams

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back in Season 3, and fantasy
adventure Rygar, which we will

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review with whoever's going to
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You guys replay Rygar?
No.

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I don't think so.
I thought that, said Avgar.

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The whole time I was.
Playing it looks like maybe Agar

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or something to me.
Also can I just say I noticed it

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said Ninja on the scoreboard the
whole time and I just had no

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idea why.
Oh.

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There you go, ninja guy.
I just it's a different 2D.

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You have a game between Rygar
versus Ninja, an entire an

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entire stadium chanting go ninja
go, ninja go.

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Wow, that was a long walk to a
Vanilla Ice reference, but I

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appreciated it.
That was that was incredible.

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It's always a good time for
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So, Speaking of controversial,
this game had a number of

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controversies surrounding
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According to YouTube channel All
Sports History, upon release of

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the NES version, Indianapolis
Colts running back Eric

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Dickerson sued Tecmo, claiming
that he was not fairly

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compensated by the NFL Players
Association for use of his name

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and likeness.
Which I think is weird that he's

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suing for use of his name and
likeness because likeness is a

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stretch.
All the players look more or

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less identical.
Oh yeah, I feel like some of

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that can also include actually
does include the stats if I

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remember the way that obviously
now and in across all levels of

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football, name, image and
likeness concerns no longer

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exist and have not been a major
stand almost scandal for the

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last several years in college
football.

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But I think one of the things
that comes up a lot with that is

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things like stats and saying
that if you've given someone the

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same stats that other people can
clearly go obviously you meant

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that player, you're still moving
into likeness even if it's not

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how they look, which I think is
much more image gets used.

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So you'll get this name, image,
likeness thing.

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Yeah, and in the way of
football, players identity is

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very much tied to their stats.
Like, you could almost argue

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it's more important since as
Jordan is showing us by being in

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full gear, you can't really see
the player's face when they're

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playing.
I'm sorry, do you miss my face?

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I mean, I always miss your face,
but you do.

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You.
I get it.

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Hey, what's up?
Well, so he sued, and to avoid

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future controversy, they removed
the player names and the intro

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that would normally display the
rosters of each team.

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It is gone from the Nintendo
Classics release and the Virtual

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Console release.
When this came out on the Wii,

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And I'm kind of sad because
there's some fun artwork here to

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get around using the logos for
teams they didn't have

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permission for.
They came up with an entirely

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new ones.
But some of them are strange,

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like we got the Indianapolis
Narwhals.

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Right.
That is amazing.

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Right.
These are phenomenal.

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OK, thank you like this and I
could only find, I'm sorry, the

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image quality is so low, but the
only place I could find this

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anywhere on the Internet was on
a YouTube channel that had, you

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know, the the track screen
playing.

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But guys, what does the mascot,
the fictional mascot for Denver,

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look like to you?
It looks like a some kind of

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like mermaid with a horn or
something to me right?

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I feel like it's Denver mermaids
or.

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Something I was trying to make
out.

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It's like a Unicorn mermaid.
It looks like a Gelfling on a

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plane.
Yes, like that D looks like a

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plane window.
It does.

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What is the San Francisco 1?
So interestingly, apparently

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some people see a soldier and
some people see like a wave

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design.
I see like a sassy parrot, like

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kind of like side bombastic side
eyeing you.

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Do you guys see what I'm talking
about?

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Like here's the here's the eye,
there's the beak.

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I kind of.
Like a toucan I.

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Can see him now a.
Toucan just with it being San

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Francisco, I immediately think
Spartan cuz I think that's San

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Jose.
OK, San Francisco Spartans.

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Yeah, Chicago Emperor Penguins
is fun and.

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Wait, is that what that is?
Yeah, it's got a little crown,

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little Penguin body.
That was going to be my next

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question.
Then after that was going to be

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Minnesota.
Minnesota yeah.

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I just is that just an M or it's
like a moth?

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I don't even know if that's an
M.

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Those eyeballs.
Maybe.

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The left and the right.
I don't know what half of these

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are.
It kind of feels like a Hornet

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or something, like you've got
the M at the bottom with wings

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off the top and then kind of a
disc not fully attached head,

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but I can see that as a style
choice.

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Well for those just listening,
we'll get off of what the

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helmets look like that you can't
see, but check it out on YouTube

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or join our discord if you want
to take a look at this.

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We'll we'll have a little
running discussion of what we

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think these logos were, but
sadly lost to the sands of time

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because they didn't want to get
sued again by people like Eric

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Dickerson.
And then another controversy

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regarding players is the game
breaking speed of Raiders

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running back Bo Jackson.
Picking Los Angeles in any

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official tech mobile competition
is considered a form of cheating

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because he is so overstated.
Use.

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The Family Guy.
I love this part.

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So Jordan, you want to explain
how techno bowl appears in the

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Family Guy episode?
Season 14 episode 19 run Chris

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run I'm the.
Raiders on Bo Jackson.

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Yeah, So what was the, they
played some kind of basketball

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game too.
But yeah, immediately, thank

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you.
Double dribble quarter three.

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And Peter just picks up this
controller and immediately says

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I'm the Raiders, I'm Bo Jackson.
And he snaps the ball, runs the

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whole way back to the end of his
own end zone, takes a few laps

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and then runs the length of the
field.

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And I think it goes back again
and then back again runs out the

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whole quarter, which is people
do this with Bo Jackson in this

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game.
Yeah, he's that broken, which is

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why our little gentlemen's
agreement before we played

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together, no one was allowed to
pick in Los Angeles.

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I need someone to tell the
computer when it's playing is I

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think either New York or Miami
that that's a broken character

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cuz I did play as LA.
And I had no run game.

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No, honestly, me too, because I,
I did try it against the

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computer and you have two
running plays, one with Marcus

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Allen.
It's like a pitch play to the

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outside.
And then the Bo Jackson plays

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kind of like a dive up the
middle.

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And I I broke away like once or
twice with it, but every other

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time he just got stuffed at the
line of scrimmage.

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It really depended on who I was
playing.

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Well, so did you guys know the
controversy regarding that

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Family Guy episode?
The controversy around the

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episode.
Well I is this that because they

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use actual gameplay footage?
Was this that they I?

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Is this either that they didn't
get permission from the person

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who uploaded it or they didn't
have permission from like?

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I think it's a permission thing
in some capacity.

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So much worse than you can
imagine, Mike.

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So as Mike is alluding to,
Family Guy uses gameplay footage

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that was taken off of people's
YouTube channels without

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permission.
And then in what might be the

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douchiest move of all time, Fox
copyright strike struck those

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videos.
The videos they stole from, they

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then tried to claim they owned
because they put it in Family

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Guy.
I mean.

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It isn't incredible how often
that has happened.

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I think I have at least 2
gameplay videos that have

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copyright warnings from bands
that used Zelda music.

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And you're playing the.
Original games and it's like,

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no, no, we we put that in a song
and it's like you that that is

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not yours, that your song.
Hilarious.

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Well, Full disclosure, according
to independent reporter Jack

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Shepherd, they did eventually
have Seth MacFarlane intervened,

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the creator, Family Guy, to get
the videos reinstated and he

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issued a formal or Susie Fox
issued a formal apology.

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Yeah, that feels like corporate
rather than family.

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Guy doesn't move.
Yeah, yeah, Fox did it.

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They did.
Yeah.

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So guys, before we get into the
joy pros and joy cons, what is

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our history with football in
general and how far did we get

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in our tech mobile seasons?
Jordan, I think we got to start

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with you.
You're in full gear, you're

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ready to go.
Oh man, start with Brad.

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His answer will be a lot shorter
all.

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Right, Brad, take us on your
football history.

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My wide history with football, I
mean, it goes pretty deep.

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We'll try to keep it short here.
I pretty much know nothing about

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football, Never played it, never
really watched it.

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I don't know.
I just never had much interest

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in it.
So I just, I don't know.

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I just know he's not something I
ever started watching.

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In my closest reference to
football, there's about two

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players that I can say that I
no, I got.

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George Jordan is the one here.
Yeah, Jordan's one.

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Tell that story, please.
Yeah, the the my main one.

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All right, so we're playing,
we're having a game night at my

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house.
We're playing Scattergories.

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I'm sure everyone's familiar
with that.

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You get a letter, you get a
category and you got to fill out

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your card with names or whatever
the category is.

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So the the letter comes up.
I think it was J.

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So in the category was famous
athletes and everyone, of

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course, Michael Jordan.
You know, you got like your

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standard ones.
And I'm like, I'm trying to

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think of something.
I got to come to something that

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no one else is going to have.
So I'm like, oh, I got 1 Jones,

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comma Ben.
And then we come, we come

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around, they're revealing all of
our names and stuff and we go

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down to it and we get to mine
and I'm like Ben Jones and

454
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:00,680
everyone's like it was Ben
Jones.

455
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,120
I'm like, I don't know, but he
probably, he probably plays

456
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,240
something.
It sounds, it sounds like a

457
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,960
famous athlete.
And I didn't get the point

458
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,280
because everyone knows I didn't
know anything about football.

459
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,880
I just threw a name out there.
I go and I look it up.

460
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,360
He's a real player.
I was like I should have got the

461
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,120
point for.
That offensive lineman for the

462
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,480
Titans?
He was.

463
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000
We had to put in a specific role
in my family called.

464
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,760
You have to be able to provide
specific details when you do

465
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,080
just to avoid that.
That's fair.

466
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,520
That's like.
At the time.

467
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,680
Yeah, your dad got greedy
though, because it was like book

468
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,520
titles and he said Sons of the
Sea.

469
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,720
There's got to be a book called
Sons of the Sea eventually.

470
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,200
Yeah, yeah.
We asked for plot details and

471
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040
like like 2 hours later we get
home and he looks it up and it's

472
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,840
like, you didn't get the points
then you're not retroactively

473
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520
getting them.
And that is not the plot you

474
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,760
described.
All right, well, since Jordan

475
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,000
seems to have a rich and long
history with football, let's go

476
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520
to mic next.
All right.

477
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,680
I'm going to say I may have a
longer history technically with

478
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,960
football.
Oh, OK.

479
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,040
Like in terms of years?
Yeah, since pro, not so much.

480
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Although in the 70s for like a
season, my mom was one of the

481
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,080
tumblers that the LA Rams had.
Your mom was an LA Rams

482
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,240
cheerleader.
No Tumblr.

483
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,040
There's a.
There is a difference on what

484
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,200
those are.
OK.

485
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,960
She has never made the claim
towards cheerleader.

486
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,920
That's a different deal.
Got it.

487
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,560
But then my dad has been a UCLA
fan.

488
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,960
Actually, it may seem like he he
will have been to every home

489
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,280
game for UCLA at the Rose Bowl
ever, depending on what happens

490
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,280
because they may be leaving
there.

491
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,520
But he he's had season tickets
since I think the late 70s when

492
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,320
he was at UCLA.
And so going to those games was

493
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,160
a standard thing growing up,
Yeah.

494
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,600
And as I went to a school that
did not have a football team.

495
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800
That's season.
Yeah, season had gotten rid of

496
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,160
theirs and it's still a public
school.

497
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,280
UCLA was my football team for a
solid stretch, and there's a

498
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,520
couple years in there where I
was at every home game because I

499
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,680
was who was available.
Some rough seasons in there and

500
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720
then for grad school, going to
Vanderbilt, which was the joke

501
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,120
school in the SEC for football,
and that changed this year.

502
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600
It's very weird.
They've had their best season in

503
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,800
a century.
Wow, this year.

504
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Yeah, yeah, they they have won
ten games for the first time in

505
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,560
100 years and the only time in a
regular in the regular season.

506
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,560
You said Vanderbilt was like the
joke school.

507
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,040
Is that like Dan from street
Fighters?

508
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,640
Like the joke character?
Like you don't?

509
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,080
No one expects them to win.
Yeah, The joke used to be the

510
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,720
only reason that Vanderbilt was
still in the SEC was so that

511
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,040
someone could read the
schedules.

512
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,600
And because it's very much, it's
a very academic school and it's

513
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,440
the SEC.
And so it has had that

514
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,880
reputation.
And so there's things where it's

515
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,640
like, yes, Vanderbilt's the team
that beat Alabama by the

516
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,880
greatest margin, which Alabama
has been dominant in college

517
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,320
football for too many years.
But Vanderbilt did that in like

518
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,680
1915 or 1920 or something.
So like a century ago,

519
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,200
Vanderbilt was dominant, and
then the entire rest of the 20th

520
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,840
century happened.
And so it had usually been an

521
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,360
easy win for everybody else.
And in the last couple years has

522
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,120
changed that and it's been
glorious.

523
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,720
Nice.
OK, so they've done well.

524
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,520
How do you do in Tecmo Bowl?
I was much more like Vanderbilt

525
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,840
a few years ago.
It went a little rough and Brad,

526
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,040
I forgot to ask, how far did you
get in single player Techno

527
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Bowl?
Not far.

528
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,720
I just kind of popped in and
out.

529
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640
I just played a couple games
here and there on my spare time,

530
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,800
so I didn't play through like
the full thing.

531
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,840
I probably beat about two teams
like Total, so not too far.

532
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,960
All right on.
I tried 2 rounds the first time

533
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,760
was and playing as LA, which is
supposed to be broken, just

534
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,920
getting fairly solidly
demolished by Miami the first

535
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,560
week three times in a row
because I could not get a single

536
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,640
stop and so I had to score every
time.

537
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,760
You couldn't stop their offense.
Couldn't stop their offense the

538
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,960
the closest I got was a 4942
game.

539
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Whoa, that's.
That's half the, actually.

540
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,960
And I had a, I had a 4135 as
well, which if I could have

541
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,400
scored, I would have actually
won the other one.

542
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,760
I was basically playing to ties.
Could, but yeah, couldn't win.

543
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,920
The second time I gave it a shot
and discovered that you kind of

544
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600
get a different setting of set
of teams that you go through.

545
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,320
And so the second time around, I
was able to go through Chicago

546
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:49,200
and New York before Minnesota
just annihilated me.

547
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,440
OK, so you got a couple of
games.

548
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,080
You got a few games into the
season.

549
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880
Jordan.
Tell us about your football

550
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,480
history and your history with
Tecmo Bowl.

551
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,240
How much time you got?
Give me the clip notes version.

552
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,760
Oh man, that's where a lot of
your listeners are gonna check

553
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,520
out here.
But Nah.

554
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,440
So I like to say I have 4 main
hobbies of my life.

555
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,920
I have professional wrestling,
video games, rock climbing and

556
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,000
football.
Nice.

557
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,200
And that's about the majority of
my personality.

558
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,000
So I, I got, I got into football
in 2004.

559
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,760
So Brad and I are both from
Altoona, PA.

560
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,240
It's about two hours from
Pittsburgh.

561
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,720
And so anyone who kind of knows
the NFL might know that in 2004,

562
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,640
that's when Ben Roethlisberger
joined the Steelers.

563
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,680
That's when he came to the NFL,
took the lead by storm as a

564
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,040
rookie.
So that's kind of what got me

565
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,400
into it was all the kids at
school and like, I want to say

566
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
like 7th or 8th grade just
talking about this, this guy

567
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Roethlisberger, whose name for
the life of me, I couldn't spell

568
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,520
for like a good few months or
so.

569
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,760
But yeah, that kind of is what
got me into football was just

570
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,440
everyone talking about that.
And I'm like, well, they all

571
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,840
seem to be into this guy, so I'm
going to check it out too.

572
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600
And then I just got absolutely
hooked to the point that like

573
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,360
throughout the majority of my
life, if I had a job that would

574
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,840
work Sundays, I would refuse to
work Sundays because I would not

575
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000
leave, leave my house because I
was watching football.

576
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,720
You can't get me to do anything
else.

577
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Wow.
It's it's, it's just it's my

578
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,720
favorite tradition.
It's football Sunday, all day

579
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,480
during the season.
And then as far as playing

580
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,080
myself, I didn't play at all in,
I played in 9th grade for just a

581
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,960
little bit, which for us back
then was junior high.

582
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,440
So I didn't play in high school.
I didn't play until I joined the

583
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,760
league I play in now, which is
called the the great Eastern

584
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,400
Football Association.
It's a team league about the

585
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,200
number of teams changes
typically about 10 to 15 teams

586
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,560
throughout the state of
Pennsylvania.

587
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,040
And I, I don't know if you guys
saw them.

588
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360
I walked away a few minutes ago
with the grab, grab these.

589
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,600
I thought I'd show you guys my
nice little championship rings

590
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,600
that I've got from that league.
We've won two of those bad boys,

591
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600
so that's awesome.
I'd grab those the the show off

592
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880
a bit for you.
But yes, so I've done that now

593
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,360
for someone actually asked me at
Thanksgiving, how long have you

594
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000
been playing in that league?
And I realized it's been 11

595
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
years.
Damn.

596
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,960
Yeah, I've been doing that for a
minute.

597
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Last season was the first time I
actually got a legitimate injury

598
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,120
and I've played through it and
it's still not healed yet.

599
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,320
So we'll kind of see how next
season goes working on that.

600
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,920
But yeah, I mean, I've had a lot
of fun football experiences with

601
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,400
like going to specific games.
I mean, I have a lot of, I'm not

602
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,720
gonna obviously waste your time
with all the stories, but I've

603
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,720
had a Steelers game where I sat
beside a player who wasn't

604
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,760
playing in that game.
He's on the practice squad.

605
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,720
The game where Antonio Brown
jumped on the the goal post, I

606
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,200
was sitting in the end zone for
that.

607
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,520
I got that on film just a few
weeks ago.

608
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640
I was at the Penn State game
where they lost at the very end

609
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,040
of the game because the guy
caught the ball the back of the

610
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,000
end zone.
I was sitting once again in that

611
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,240
end zone where that happened.
I have a lot of fun stories, but

612
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,160
yeah, as far as tech mobile, I
mean that kind of, I played it

613
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760
here and there.
I mostly played Tecmo Super

614
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Bowl, which is the SNES version,
but unfortunately that one's not

615
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,800
on the Switch.
So yeah, more familiarity with

616
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400
that one.
But this was probably the most I

617
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,720
really played.
The original Tecmo Bowl was

618
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480
what's for this episode.
And so how far did you get?

619
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,280
So I didn't really go too far
until I kind of just played

620
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,400
individual games when I had the
time.

621
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,840
I didn't do like I finished this
game, so I'll advance the next I

622
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,640
I played it three separate
times, but they weren't

623
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,720
connected.
So I didn't actually advance in

624
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880
the season, unlike, unlike Mikey
Boy, I did win all three of my

625
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,040
games so.
OK, All right, good.

626
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Yeah, We're playing, hanging out
on the Discord and just we can't

627
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,640
see Jordan because another
interception.

628
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,680
Another interception.
Oh yeah, that last one I won 42

629
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200
to 0 was 7 interceptions.
Quarter 3.

630
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240
Quarter.
Three Well, anyway, because

631
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Family Guy taught me how broken
Bo Jackson is, at least for me.

632
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,120
Like like I thought, you know, I
was Peter Griffin out there.

633
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,120
I was just breaking ankles and
just run it all the way.

634
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,640
I did what was basically a low
stake speed run where I would,

635
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920
you know, score twice and then
deliberately let the other team

636
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,760
score, knowing full well that I
would score the next time I

637
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,440
received the ball.
So I played every game and

638
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880
became the Tecmo.
World.

639
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Champion, which means I'm in 10
did beat this game.

640
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Computer which means I'm better
at football than Jordan, right?

641
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Right.
Objectively.

642
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Objectively, that means.
Sounds good.

643
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,560
Oklahoma drills over this one,
my guy.

644
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Let's line it up.
That's not.

645
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,960
That's not.
So let's go through the Joy Pros

646
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,600
of the Game, what we liked about
it.

647
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,320
So Brad, you're not a football
guy.

648
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,680
How is it?
What did you like about Tecmo

649
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Bowl?
I mean, like I said, I don't

650
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,520
really know.
I barely even knew what any of

651
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,440
the plays were.
So I was just kinda at first

652
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,960
just pressing buttons, but I
don't know.

653
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,560
I thought it was pretty fun.
It was definitely how you can

654
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,360
mix it up.
It wasn't like you said you can

655
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,160
use bojacks and just run every
play, but the I didn't use them.

656
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,720
I use New York and it seemed
like it was pretty viable to

657
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,720
either run it or pass it.
And I don't know, it's pretty,

658
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,320
pretty fun how you can switch
like your character because I

659
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,840
know we talked about we played
the arcade version.

660
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
I don't know for any of much
into that, but in this one you

661
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960
can kind of switch who you're
going to pass it to.

662
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280
So if your guys covered how me
and you were playing in our

663
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,320
match and I'd always switch to
an open guy and get a get some

664
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,560
nice yards on that.
But overall it's pretty fun,

665
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720
better than I expected because
since I'm not really into

666
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,640
football.
There was some definitely some

667
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,880
fun moments where like I was
trying to get a running play and

668
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,920
you know, you can see which
player on the field your

669
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,920
opponent is controlling because
they'll be like a little 2

670
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,960
floating over their head.
And that means that's the player

671
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,720
that player 2 is in control of.
And then player 1 of course, is

672
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,560
single player, but so I would
see Brad moving back and forth

673
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,680
behind the line of scrimmage and
I'm desperately trying to fake

674
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,680
him out and he's just like a
shark in the water.

675
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,840
And like, I feel like that's
probably what it feels like.

676
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,640
I so I've never really played
football outside of like PE, you

677
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,800
know, in like 9th grade PE class
or whatever.

678
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,280
So I felt like there were some
moments of genuine tension that

679
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,159
felt authentic to the game.
And I think it's kind of

680
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,719
impressive considering, you
know, when this game came out,

681
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,320
how many buttons they had to go
with.

682
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,639
I think a lot of the football's
essence was captured well.

683
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,400
Mike, I know you didn't have the
best time with it, but what did

684
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,000
you like about it?
For how all this went, getting a

685
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,400
safety was surprisingly
satisfying.

686
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,239
I didn't get to see one of
those.

687
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,159
Yeah.
I, I, I for a whole quarter I

688
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:44,159
was leading to nothing.
Cuz you got one safety.

689
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,480
I got one safety and we'll take
what I can get on this.

690
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Is that where you tackle someone
in their own end zone?

691
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Yes, OK.
Yeah, I not had much luck,

692
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,520
punted it and managed to stop
them right at their goal, goal

693
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,320
line and so they did not get
further.

694
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,560
So points by any any means
possible, I think it does

695
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,040
somewhat benefit from with this
being a bit limited in what they

696
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,640
could do.
I think the constraints on the

697
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,880
the available plays certainly
helps things just because with

698
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,360
just four plays, you kind of get
an idea of how this is working

699
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,320
enough to sort of figure things
out.

700
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,680
One thing that this does have in
theory is that if you can pick

701
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,800
what the the defense is going to
be, I'm sorry, what the offense

702
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,720
is going to be when you're on
defense, that's supposed to make

703
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,920
it easier to stop that play.
I'm not fully sure.

704
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,360
I did like that sort of when you
picked a player to control and

705
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,400
defense, you just stuck there,
which did allow me to kind of

706
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560
strategize to let the computer
do the harder work.

707
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,120
I tended to just go for the nose
tackle and just hang tight and

708
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560
try and sack them if they're
going to try and run it, and

709
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,200
then hope that the computer
could actually defend the past,

710
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,480
because I couldn't.
Yeah, So what Mike's referring

711
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,600
to is I think it's a really
ingenious system where in you

712
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,280
see only four options.
Because I've played blitz

713
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,920
before, I played like Madden NFL
2K, whatever, and there's like a

714
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,120
lot of plays to choose from.
But with this game, the offense

715
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,200
picks a play and the defense
tries to guess which play they

716
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,120
picked.
So since there's only four

717
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,840
options, there's a 25% chance
that you're going to get that

718
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,240
perfect coverage on the
receivers or a sack on the

719
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,600
quarterback.
And I can say for sure like that

720
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,360
that mechanic work.
There's definitely been some

721
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120
plays where like it's like that
and I didn't really do much like

722
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,720
the computer kind of took care
of it.

723
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,800
But I think the fact that
there's a three out of four

724
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,880
chance of, you know, being an
advantage on the offense, you

725
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,000
end up with high scoring games
because I feel like if you're on

726
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,080
offense, you have an advantage.
And I think that makes sports

727
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,720
games more fun if that point
total gets higher and higher.

728
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,840
So I, I thought that was really
genius.

729
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,280
And this is actually the very
first game to have that secret

730
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,840
selection mechanic where instead
of having a cursor showing what

731
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,760
player doing, you press a button
combination so that your

732
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560
opponent doesn't know even if
they're sitting right next to

733
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,600
you on the couch like this.
That had never been done before.

734
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,600
And now it was a staple for
couch sports games up to this

735
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
day, you know, So I, I think it
does a lot of credit for that.

736
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,480
Jordan, our actual football
player here.

737
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,840
What do you like about Tecmo
Bowl?

738
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,640
So yeah, that strategy aspect
that you guys mentioned is it's,

739
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,160
it's fairly, it's impressive
enough for an old NES game that

740
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,520
allows you to choose 4 plays.
I did notice the whole like

741
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,880
guessing the play on defense
that definitely I definitely

742
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,080
noticed it worked for running
plays.

743
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000
If you chose the correct running
play defense and they picked

744
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,600
that play, it shut the run play
down every time.

745
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,640
For as far as passing plays, I
kind of felt like I was more, I

746
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
was more on the hook for.
I always controlled the

747
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,640
linebacker and dropped back into
coverage.

748
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,280
I felt like on passing plays, I
always had to kind of do the

749
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
work for that.
But as far as choosing the right

750
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,200
play, like you said, for running
plays, it definitely, definitely

751
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,720
works very well.
I'll tell you, I think the other

752
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:15,000
thing about the game I think is
most fun is whenever you Juke

753
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,880
the guy out just the right time,
because I mean, the, the players

754
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,040
are twitchy.
I mean, they'll turn on a dime

755
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920
like full 90° angles, any
direction.

756
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,160
You got a guy who you know, he's
just about to dive at you to

757
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,520
tackle you, you just break to
right to the right, break to the

758
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,200
left and he misses.
And it's, it's a, it's very fun

759
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,280
to make a bunch of guys miss and
just see them diving all over

760
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,240
the place every now and then.
I did when I played against the

761
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:44,200
computer yesterday, I managed to
get a kick return touchdown.

762
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,440
It's the only one I've gotten,
but I think I must have duped

763
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,320
someone out 10 times on that one
play because there there is an

764
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,600
aspect of I guess rubber
banding, we'll say, where if

765
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,200
you're out ahead like you have a
breakaway to the end zone, the

766
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,840
computer player or just I guess
the opponent player will

767
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,040
suddenly run 10 times faster it.
Will.

768
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Always make sure they can catch
you, but if you can Juke them at

769
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,200
just the right time, you'll
still be able to get away with

770
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,600
it.
I think it only does that if

771
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,800
you're running in a straight
line trying to catch him, like

772
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,120
if you're trying to move on an
angle.

773
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520
OK yeah, because that is
something that I had noticed and

774
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,840
started to kind of count on.
OK, if I can get a line just

775
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,280
downfield to run and catch up
and then get over to him.

776
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,920
OK, yeah, Which Jamo saw that I
can do.

777
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,880
I did see that, yeah.
I will.

778
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,560
I will also say, if I had to
pick one more thing, that's my

779
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,160
favorite part about playing this
game.

780
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,240
It's beating JMO in overtime.
OK, OK.

781
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:42,560
Wait a minute, wait a minute
there.

782
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,240
Hold your horses there, hold
your horses there, slugger.

783
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,160
We're going to get to the point
where we compare our scores in

784
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,680
these games.
So this is he's shots fired

785
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,240
already.
So we're going to do AI think.

786
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,640
Slugger's the slugger's the
wrong sport, I think.

787
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,960
That close enough?
What?

788
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,120
Would you call it the lineman?
Sure.

789
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,160
Why not?
Well, but to that end, though, I

790
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,320
had a lot of fun playing this
online with you guys before we

791
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,240
started recording.
And you know, and shout out for

792
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200
using your daughter's account,
Brad, to sign.

793
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,640
In it's.
Like you're, you know, oh, this

794
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,840
person wants to play and it's a
little Animal Crossing logo.

795
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,480
It's like not.
What I not what I have pictured

796
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,280
for Brad, but.
A lot of snack on the grass.

797
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,240
Yeah, great game, great game.
My my island on New Horizons is

798
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,040
Immaculate, OK.
OK, you have to come on another

799
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,440
episode.
We did a whole thing where we

800
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680
competed with islands.
I would love to show you the

801
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,600
island.
Absolutely, we'll do it.

802
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,320
Love islands #2 But you know, I
think that for such an old game

803
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,360
to be fun in 2025 and be playing
it online with you guys, it

804
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,240
just, it was awesome.
It did make the the kickoff

805
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,520
return against you very
satisfying.

806
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,080
OK, you know something Mike?
I beat you.

807
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,320
OK, You don't get the talk trash
like.

808
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080
I, I I went in expecting to lose
it.

809
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,040
This is just about high points
on the way towards loss.

810
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,800
Yeah, but but you know, all our
games are real close.

811
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Like, you know, when I when I
thought I'm OK, so we'll just

812
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,760
spoil it.
But I beat Brad by three and

813
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
then Jordan beat me by three in
overtime.

814
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,720
So we're more or less tied.
Like, how did your game against

815
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Brad?
Who'd you play against?

816
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,040
I played Jordan, so we only we
only played the first half,

817
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520
Yeah.
And that was 7 nothing him.

818
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,080
OK, well I think that
Arcadiology has the narrow

819
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,040
advantage in the NES game.
Looks like you guys got the

820
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200
point advantage there.
But I'm not mad about it.

821
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,160
Was really fun and I think part
of what makes this game fun is

822
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,720
the presentation for a such an
old game.

823
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:50,440
There's a lot of players on the
field and there are these little

824
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,480
cut scenes for the halftime and
for every touchdown and they all

825
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,120
the shock of Bra.
Shock and bra.

826
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,840
But I don't know, I just look,
it's a very masculine sport.

827
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,200
I didn't mind a little touch of
light hearted, you know, little,

828
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:07,400
little flesh on that.
Whatever you recall it Mike the

829
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,800
gratuitous cheerleader shots.
I, I, I was honestly, I was more

830
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,760
surprised by the marching band.
What was that?

831
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,240
That's much more a college
football thing.

832
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,640
That's very college feeling.
Oh, OK, I didn't think about

833
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,040
that.
There's no college.

834
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,640
There's no marching bands for
the NFL.

835
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,040
No.
Back in the day, maybe, I mean,

836
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,360
but.
Even as it even happened as it

837
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,320
is that like only I think half
of them have.

838
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,840
I think they've all had
cheerleaders at some point, but

839
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,360
like a huge number of don't have
cheerleaders now.

840
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,280
That's not.
It's much more a college

841
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
football hallmark, I'd say.
Oh.

842
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Actually a fun halftime thing
because it is a bit weird to see

843
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,760
this halftime selections big.
There's some stuff here like I

844
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,560
wasn't expecting them to do
this.

845
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,200
I did go to a rugby game in
Australia and it was they had a

846
00:42:55,240 --> 00:43:01,040
halftime show to mark that.
It was like National Teachers

847
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,520
Week or something.
And so it was women in like

848
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Squirrel Girl outfits dancing on
desks and like, well, this is

849
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,800
the America influence.
I'm like, we do not do this.

850
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,760
You cannot blame this one on us.
This is entirely a you guys

851
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,200
thing.
Yeah, that's weird.

852
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,400
Yeah, we may have cheerleaders.
They don't do that.

853
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,840
Well, I liked it.
I'm a simple man.

854
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,200
I liked the halftime animations.
I got hyped every time there was

855
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,240
the touchdown high 5.
And the music, it's catchy.

856
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,960
I love the special little music.
Yeah, Jordans doing like the

857
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:39,000
three frames of animation.
Quite slow but still fun.

858
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,400
I like that they just redo the
colors on the exact same

859
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,200
animation so it's one animation
and just the colors of whatever

860
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,760
team needs to high 5.
Hey, you know what?

861
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,000
Save time, save money, working
smarter, not harder.

862
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,080
So we mentioned that Arcadiology
got the edge on us when we

863
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,160
played the NES version.
But Brad and I would like to do

864
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,160
a quick segment called High
Score and 37 years ago, inspired

865
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,160
by one of my favorite parts of
the Arcadiology podcast, where

866
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,200
they would compare who could
beat the game in the fewest

867
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,440
amount of quarters and who who
got the high score.

868
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,920
So Techno Bowl for the arcade,
it was timer based.

869
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,600
You got a minute for every
quarter that you put in.

870
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040
So doesn't really make sense to
compare quarters, but Brad and I

871
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,760
were going to compete to see who
could score the most or who had

872
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,200
the best point differential
against the computer.

873
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Brad, did you happen to take a
picture of your end game for the

874
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,000
arcade version?
I sure did.

875
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,800
Let me pull it up here.
I got my score was 69 Wildcats

876
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,440
and the Bulldogs got 6.
Oh my gosh you beat me.

877
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,640
I had 6.
How close to 6?

878
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Oh man, that was close. 6-7 but
I can't.

879
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,280
Believe no.
So so you you must have

880
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,920
discovered the thing.
So the Tecmo Bowl Arcade 1 looks

881
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,400
much better in terms of like
colors and Sprite.

882
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,720
Oh yeah, looks great.
It's 2 arcade screens joined

883
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:04,720
together so you have this
beautiful wide screen.

884
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,400
But Jordan, what was your
secret?

885
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,920
How did you get to 69 nice
points and this?

886
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,480
No, Brad, not me.
Brad, Sorry, Brad, how'd you

887
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,480
score so high?
Oh, I was mostly my defense was

888
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,600
pretty terrible.
I like getting the quarterback

889
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,040
or whatever.
So I would always just

890
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,400
intercepted.
I intercepted so many times.

891
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,560
It comes up and gives you like
your high score on like your

892
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,760
runs and passes and everything.
I forget my they got 7, yeah, 7

893
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,600
interceptions that game.
So I was just constantly getting

894
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,280
it and running.
And then it's so much easier to

895
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160
shake off the opponents in the
arcade version because as you're

896
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,240
running, I swear I had like
their whole team on me at once.

897
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,320
And you just grab that joystick
and just RIP it back and forth.

898
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,400
And then then I'm keep tapping
because you can jump in this one

899
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,120
as well.
So I keep tapping, jump.

900
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,880
That's how I know when I'm free.
Then I start moving again to the

901
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,800
right and start to run, gain
some yards and anyone that gets

902
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,480
on you just shake them off.
Like unless like their whole

903
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,440
team's on, you can pretty much
keep on moving and keep

904
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,320
progressing down the field.
Yeah, I was hoping you didn't

905
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,240
know that trick because I'm
going to smoke them with the

906
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:11,360
score.
I'm what, 59 points ahead?

907
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,040
I totally got this, but my gosh.
Well, OK.

908
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,320
Or what, 11 points, I guess.
Anyway, well done, Brad.

909
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,640
If you were only going to play
the any S Techno Bowl or the

910
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,560
arcade version because they are
both on Switch, for $8 you can

911
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,200
get Techno Bowl Arcade.
Which one would you recommend?

912
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,600
Let's do a quick Nintendis or
Dad.

913
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,320
Man that's close.
They were both a lot of fun.

914
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,680
Do you know is the NES version
only two player?

915
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,520
It is only two player but it
does have online.

916
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,400
The arcade 1 is 4 player, 4
player couch multiplayer but no

917
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,240
online.
So for me I got to give the edge

918
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:48,760
to NES just because be able to
choose teams choose your.

919
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,640
You don't choose your plays in
the arcade one, it just starts.

920
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Right.
It's very basic, yeah.

921
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,000
You don't pick a team or
anything.

922
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,600
You just you just start playing
right off the bat, you.

923
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,920
Don't pick a team.
You don't pick a play.

924
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,000
It's just go, go, go, go, go.
But I I give the edge to the NES

925
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,080
one.
I think I do agree.

926
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,640
I do appreciate the simplicity
of the Arcade 1, how it's very

927
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,000
simple.
You don't pick plays, don't pick

928
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,680
team.
You just get in, start running.

929
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,960
But the NES one has a little
more going forward I think.

930
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,400
So was there anything else we
liked about Techno Bull?

931
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Any other Joy Pros to cover?
I don't know if it's a pro or a

932
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,200
con, but just how the difference
is between single player and

933
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,560
like multiplayer.
How when we were playing, you

934
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,720
can see if you're doing a pass
play, you know what I mean?

935
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:34,440
And I can like see which
character you're going to throw

936
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,680
it to.
When you're playing against a

937
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,920
computer, you have no idea which
one they're going to do.

938
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,440
So I was just kind of 1 little
difference I picked up on that I

939
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,000
noticed when I was playing by
myself and then when I started

940
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,960
playing with you as kind of a
little bit easier because you

941
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,200
can kind of see what they're
going to do compared to whenever

942
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,600
you're against ACPU.
It felt less luck based because

943
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,600
I felt more informed on on what
my opponent was doing.

944
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,480
Yeah.
Jordan, anything else you want

945
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,000
to praise about the game before
we go into our mini game minute

946
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,040
our halftime show?
I don't think I have anything

947
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000
else.
I also say I think the time

948
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,920
actually ends up being pretty
reasonable.

949
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,160
Like the I wasn't sure how 92nd
quarters would go.

950
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,680
And in practice it actually it
meant that the games were just

951
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,200
long enough.
Whereas like if I was losing,

952
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,240
I'd kind of just accept that's
how it was going, but I didn't

953
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,720
feel trapped into it and it did.
It wasn't this thing where like

954
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,560
this is going so long I want
this to end, but also enough

955
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,640
time to kind of feel like in
general, I think I can change

956
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,080
the surrounding the amount of
time I have.

957
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,960
And it does handle time fairly
well, which is fairly key since

958
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,520
clock management is like a key
part of football.

959
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,360
And like you, I did start
getting to the point where is

960
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
like I better get out of bounds
so that I can get another

961
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,120
playoff or something like that.
Yeah.

962
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,840
So I think it captured some
stuff that I think it would have

963
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,320
been very easy to not handle
time well.

964
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,440
Yeah, I compare this to the
other NES sports games you've

965
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,520
covered, Mike, like tennis and
baseball.

966
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,520
This felt way more complex, much
faster, just more fun.

967
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,200
Like I feel like as far as like
sports games, this is going to

968
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,120
be pretty high up there for what
we've covered.

969
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,200
OK guys.
Well, so I do have a quick mini

970
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,320
game minute because when we've
got some people here who know a

971
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,280
lot about football and we got
Brad too.

972
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,560
So Brad, Brad, you know, I think
you might get a couple of these.

973
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,760
OK, maybe we should offer it to
Brad 1st and then if he doesn't

974
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,520
know.
So this game is going to be

975
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,720
called the more You Tech know.
So we had mentioned that they

976
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:35,200
had to remove the player names
when this was released on

977
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,320
Virtual Console and Nintendo
Classics.

978
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,880
So the version we're playing
isn't really the version they

979
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,240
got in, you know, cartridges in
1989.

980
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,440
But by looking at the numbers of
the players and knowing their

981
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,080
stats, you can kind of figure
out who it's supposed to be,

982
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,400
like Mike said.
So in that same spirit, I'm

983
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,920
going to give you guys a hint
and you guys let me know if you

984
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,280
know the name of the player.
I guess just shout it out first.

985
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,360
All right, we got 1717.
Excuse me.

986
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,440
No, no, no.
We have 7 questions.

987
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,760
So and Mike, we want them to
want to wait till I'm finished

988
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,680
reading the question.
Right?

989
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,440
That's that's better content.
Yes.

990
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,520
OK, All right.
So I'm not going to name team

991
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,120
names because those aren't in
the version we played or any

992
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,160
version.
OK, so here we go.

993
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,920
Remember, this is all based on
1989.

994
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,560
Oh God. #16 for San Francisco,
this quarterback shares his

995
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,680
first name with a camel and his
last name with the 41st state in

996
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,560
the union.
Joe Montana.

997
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,840
Boom, Mike gets it first.
OK, we're just where's the on

998
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,760
and out?
OK, sorry.

999
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:45,360
Too slow, All right, Joe
Montana, Mike gets one point #7

1000
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,320
for Denver this quarterback.
John Elway.

1001
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,840
Remembered for his ad work such
as Got Milk Campaign, his record

1002
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,040
setting toss in a commercial for
the Nerve Vortex.

1003
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,160
He's also has the most common
first name in the English

1004
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,360
language, John Elway, George.
You did also say wait till you

1005
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,120
finish reading the question.
That's on me.

1006
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Hey now I got.
Excited.

1007
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Now it's fair.
OK, Now we're going to go throw

1008
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,240
this one to Brad here, OK?
So.

1009
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,640
Yeah, I'm just here.
Despite sharing a last name with

1010
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,080
the biggest family dynasty in
professional wrestling, this gym

1011
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,720
was also the quarterback of
Chicago and wore jersey number

1012
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,200
9.
Where we is this, everyone can

1013
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,960
still do it.
Yep, you take it away.

1014
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,440
I got enough of.
This just Brad.

1015
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:30,280
This is McMahon.
Jim McMahon OK, good job.

1016
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,920
All right #9 and quarterback
from Minnesota.

1017
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,560
This Tommy wasn't Seinfeld's
eccentric neighbor, despite the

1018
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,080
potential name confusion.
Tommy was so.

1019
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,800
What?
Wait, can you read it again?

1020
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Tommy was so the guy who made
the room.

1021
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,760
George Costanza.
I'll read it again.

1022
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,720
This Tommy wasn't Seinfeld's
eccentric neighbor, despite the

1023
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,560
potential name confusion.
Tommy.

1024
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,960
First name is Tommy.
Tommy.

1025
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,560
Tommy Kramer.
Something there?

1026
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,280
We go Tommy Kramer.
I don't even know that name.

1027
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,480
That is the #9 quarterback for
the Minnesota Vikings in 1989,

1028
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,880
all right #11 for New York.
This Phil was a quarterback and

1029
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,160
might have had a diamond
floating above his head to tell

1030
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,920
you it was mood.
Phil Simms.

1031
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:16,960
Phil Simms, all right, got two
more here.

1032
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,880
No, he's not the former Prime
Minister of Canada.

1033
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,640
This Jack was #10 and
quarterback for Indianapolis.

1034
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Oh, I don't know that one.
Mike Brad, former Prime Minister

1035
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,280
of Canada.
Don't know that guy either,

1036
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,320
sorry man.
Mike, this is your moment.

1037
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,840
Mike No Jack Trudeau.
Yeah, no way.

1038
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:40,720
All right, I got one more but I
didn't think Jordan sadly got

1039
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,440
it, but I just this was his name
is too cool to not mention.

1040
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,960
Number 84 for Cleveland.
This wide receivers full name is

1041
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,280
a synonym for murdering a
dictionary for Cleveland.

1042
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Number 84 for Cleveland.
His name is a synonym for

1043
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,400
murdering a dictionary.
Nobody.

1044
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,720
Cares about Cleveland, Webster
Slaughter.

1045
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:01,840
Oh, I was going to go for Kill
Merriam Webster.

1046
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,320
Kill me.
Yeah, you're on the right track,

1047
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,400
man.
You were on the right track.

1048
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,400
All right, so guys, Tecmo bowl
of about arcadiology smoked us.

1049
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,800
That's three, three and all.
I cheated on the one I got.

1050
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,240
Excited college football has
better names than NFL.

1051
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Give me one example.
General booty.

1052
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,520
Is that real?
Yes, I was going to go with jet

1053
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,760
toner.
I mean, he plays.

1054
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,040
He plays in the NFL now.
I was going to say kool-aid

1055
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,040
Mckinstry, but he plays for the
Saints now.

1056
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,720
He was with for Alabama, I
think.

1057
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,680
A lot of fun names here.
Aha, Clinton Dicks.

1058
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Clinton Dicks.
Going to get us delisted here,

1059
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,200
what are you saying?
Well, Ha Ha is not his real

1060
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,280
first name, but his last name is
Clinton Dicks.

1061
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Now I'm just trying to go
through how many I remember that

1062
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,120
got the cameos and key and Peele
when they did the east West one.

1063
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,360
You should have made us a mini
game, Mike.

1064
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,560
I want to play that.
A A Ron Rogers.

1065
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,720
That's my quarterback, man.
So guys, that was fun.

1066
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,760
It's official arcadiology.
They beat us in the arcade

1067
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,160
version of Tecmo Bowl, the NES
version of Tecmo Bowl, and

1068
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,440
Jordan dominated in the More You
Techno.

1069
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,800
So you guys got us three, you
know.

1070
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,840
But you know what, I am mad
about it just too much fun.

1071
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Tecmo Bowl ain't perfect, right?
There are some problems here.

1072
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,760
For as great as it looks, I
think that there is some

1073
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,640
ugliness to the game.
There's some really bad

1074
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,400
flickering.
There is like if you pick the

1075
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,200
what team is this might be San
Francisco.

1076
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,600
Anyway, one of the teams.
There's the skin color matches

1077
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,720
the color of the jersey.
So they kind of look like

1078
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,880
golems, almost like your golems,
like just kind of masses of

1079
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,720
flesh here.
And I don't know, you guys.

1080
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:49,160
Some of the players had stats
that felt so low it almost felt

1081
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,680
comical when they would get the
ball.

1082
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,440
It was like, move, come on.
You're like trudging.

1083
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,560
I don't know, I found the game
frustrating at times.

1084
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,440
Mike, I know you did.
What didn't you like about Tecmo

1085
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Bowl?
The passing, I think was a big

1086
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,720
part of it, and I think with
that, it's just that.

1087
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,960
So the way that this indicates
where you're passing is with

1088
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,600
like a flashing little icon that
I think it's lost on the screen

1089
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,240
way too easily.
OK.

1090
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,720
And like, I'd much prefer some
other like even if that was just

1091
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,480
a permanent indicator that
didn't flicker and was a

1092
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,640
different color than your team
then the teams on screen so that

1093
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,440
it was much more prominently
visible.

1094
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,360
I think that would have helped a
lot on that.

1095
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:37,520
OK, So that I knew where I was
trying to pass and it just meant

1096
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,720
that I like I really avoided
passing if at all possible just

1097
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:44,600
because I didn't, I didn't feel
like I had much control on it or

1098
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,560
consistency on what that was
going to do.

1099
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,720
Whereas at least the runs I knew
where the ball would be.

1100
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Yeah, it's almost comical how
easy it is to intercept the ball

1101
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,600
in this game.
Brad, how many interceptions did

1102
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,800
we have in our game?
I lost track.

1103
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,760
It was just back and forth for a
while there.

1104
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,640
And that's fun.
Like an interception is an

1105
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,920
exciting moment in the music
even changes.

1106
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,400
But when it's that easy to get
an interception, there's moments

1107
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,520
of like, well, a pass is
appropriate, but I'm not going

1108
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,480
to try it because I know the
odds are stacked against me.

1109
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,160
Runs is just so much safer,
especially since you can't

1110
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,760
fumble in this game.
Doesn't matter how hard they hit

1111
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,680
you, if you have a run, they
ain't getting the ball until you

1112
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,480
know it.
Switch the sides.

1113
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,760
Brad, what?
What did you not enjoy about

1114
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,120
Tech Mobile?
What's your joy con?

1115
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,400
I think just, and during our
multiplayer session, I realized

1116
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,480
it is kind of what we brought up
while we were playing briefly is

1117
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,120
whenever you select a play, like
if you, you can pick a run play,

1118
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,840
but then you, you're locked in
to run it.

1119
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,520
You have no option to pass it.
And if the other person sees

1120
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,840
that there's no one highlighted
to pass it to, you know that

1121
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,000
they can't throw it.
So you got to just pretty much

1122
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,160
run them down.
Whereas if you pick a passing

1123
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,480
play, you can still pass it.
Or like I did a few times, I'd

1124
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,160
pick the passing play, you'd be
covering my guys and I would

1125
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680
just start running anyways.
So to me, I always pretty much

1126
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,880
90% of the time pick the passing
play.

1127
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,760
That way I had both options and
I don't.

1128
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,320
I'm not sure, maybe it was a
team I picked, but I feel like

1129
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,040
the second-half of our game I
had a lot of success with

1130
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,000
passing.
I was really getting better at

1131
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,120
switching who was open and
passing it to them.

1132
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,760
So other than just to being so
obvious which one you're going

1133
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,360
to do once the play starts,
that's probably the biggest

1134
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,240
thing for me.
And there are some issues, like

1135
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,680
with how limited your options
are, because there's a brutal

1136
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,120
moment where you, you, the timer
was almost out, it was the

1137
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,520
halftime, and you could not do a
field goal because it was third

1138
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,480
down, not 4th down.
You can do a field goal.

1139
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,760
On 3rd, Yep.
How?

1140
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,920
You hit B and it'll bring up
that you can bring up that menu

1141
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,080
at any time.
I thought I tried that and

1142
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,520
nothing.
I thought I tried to press every

1143
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,120
button and nothing worked.
Now you can do that.

1144
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,000
I did it accidentally a couple
times.

1145
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,680
Yeah, I did as well.
I stumbled across it, but I, I

1146
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,720
don't know any strategy about
football, so I wouldn't have

1147
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,040
even considered to do that.
I'll just keep on running it and

1148
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,040
throwing it and hoping I win.
I.

1149
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,120
Wonder why that didn't work for
me.

1150
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,840
So, Mike, is there a secret
command, Mike, to do a

1151
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,120
touchback?
Like I'm in my end zone.

1152
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,080
I'm just going to take a knee
because I know I'm not going to

1153
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,120
run it very far.
No, I I think the threshold it's

1154
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,640
using on that is if it actually
goes out of the end zone.

1155
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,440
OK.
Otherwise do you got to take OK

1156
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,760
cuz I think I saw something that
noted that like that was not a

1157
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,040
feature that it had in there was
to actually just fair catch it

1158
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,720
and like you have to try and run
it out of the end zone.

1159
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,360
OK, but also the one of my
favorite things to do in blitz

1160
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,160
was like you do the fake out
punt where it looks like you're

1161
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,280
gonna punt, but you're really
gonna run it and kind of trick

1162
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,240
them.
I don't I kind of miss that,

1163
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:49,560
but.
I'm going to put a link in the

1164
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,880
show notes to like my cold is
from UCL as last home game at

1165
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,520
the Rose Bowl this season where
they went for one of those fakes

1166
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,040
and oh God it was bad so it.
Didn't fool anybody.

1167
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,640
No, no, no.
It resulted in a touchdown for

1168
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,000
the wrong team.
Brutal.

1169
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,680
Apparently on a field fake field
goal.

1170
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Just having someone throw it
over their shoulder without

1171
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:19,160
looking is not a good strategy.
Well, we've all been there,

1172
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,640
right Jordan?
Obviously.

1173
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,800
So you're a real player, Jordan.
Is there anything you feel like

1174
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,320
a techno bowl game?
I mean, we know it's an old

1175
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,360
game.
Is there anything that gets

1176
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,120
wrong or anything that
frustrated you?

1177
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,040
Obviously if you're thinking of
it as like, what does this do

1178
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,240
wrong compared to real life
football?

1179
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,120
I kind of feel like there's only
so much it can do being what'd

1180
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,360
you say, it's from 89.
Yeah, something like that.

1181
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,840
There's only so much you can
obviously do with the technology

1182
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,120
of that time.
I mean, if you want to talk

1183
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,960
about it being wrong necessarily
kind of the way that the the

1184
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,760
clock works.
I mean, I know, I know Mike kind

1185
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,360
of talked about like working the
clock earlier.

1186
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,000
Now, like normally in football,
if you were winning at the end

1187
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,040
of the game and you have the
ball, you want to just run

1188
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,560
because running the ball and
staying in bounds will keep the

1189
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,320
clock going.
Whereas if if you throw an

1190
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,080
incomplete pass, that will stop
the clock.

1191
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,000
Obviously that's not the way it
works in this game, especially

1192
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,760
with the 92nd quarters.
It's just as soon as the play's

1193
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,560
over, the clock's just done.
But again, there's really only

1194
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,040
so much you can do with a
football video game from 1989.

1195
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,280
Yeah, like how big is the file
size on this thing?

1196
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,200
Yeah.
Put it on a floppy disk,

1197
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,200
probably.
Yeah, make it run on your

1198
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,080
smartwatch.
OK, well, so anything else?

1199
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,800
Any other bones to pick with
Techno Bowl?

1200
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Any other joy cons?
You guys are ready to move on to

1201
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,000
our verdict.
I thought that the collision

1202
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,320
detection at points was really
frustrating, specifically

1203
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,000
detecting hits on the
quarterback.

1204
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,280
Yeah, there's a lot of
situations where I'm like, I

1205
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,880
feel like that was a sack.
So I when I first was playing, I

1206
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,160
always control.
I typically when I play football

1207
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,640
games, I controlled the
defensive line.

1208
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,040
I was controlling my defensive
end and and I'm telling you,

1209
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,760
there were multiple times where
I was very clearly hitting the

1210
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,120
quarterback and then three
seconds later he's throwing the

1211
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,600
ball down field.
Why can I not sack the

1212
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,800
quarterback?
It's not possible for some

1213
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,520
reason.
Yeah, it kind of felt like it

1214
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,240
was a thing of if he's it's a
pass play, you can't versus if

1215
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,600
it's a run play, you can.
I don't like that.

1216
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,880
That was a little bit
frustrating.

1217
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,960
And I think in the same realm,
and I think this has to do with

1218
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,960
this is the only time where this
felt notably frustrating to me

1219
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,120
is since all of your kicking is
this power meter thing and on

1220
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,280
the kickoff, you can just let
the power meter continue to

1221
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,880
cycle through.
And you don't really, you don't

1222
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,000
have a time constraint.
So you can get a good kick on

1223
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,040
the extra points.
It wasn't too much of an issue.

1224
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,000
And I think for punts it, I
didn't have this as an issue,

1225
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,160
but I tried to go for a field
goal and they just got wrecked

1226
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,520
before I really had a chance to
even reach like the power meter.

1227
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,960
And that feels very frustrating
because you have the game

1228
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,520
operating on one speed of like,
well, you're moving the ball,

1229
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,640
the defense is coming, but from
the perspective of the offense,

1230
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,920
there's nothing I can do to
speed that up.

1231
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,720
It's not as though I waited too
late for something like it.

1232
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,800
I have to wait for the power
meter to a show up and for the

1233
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,160
power meter to get to where I
need it to.

1234
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,120
And that feels like a situation
where it was so very out of my

1235
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,360
control that it wasn't like, oh,
they got ahead ahead of it and

1236
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,040
blocked it because I didn't
release at the right time.

1237
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,560
I just never got to that.
And in my game with Jordan,

1238
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,840
there was a moment Joe and I
forget who it was, but one of us

1239
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,320
was going for a field goal and
the kicker very clearly got

1240
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,040
tackled and it didn't interrupt
it.

1241
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,560
I'm almost paused.
I was gonna mention that I'm

1242
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:47,640
pretty sure that was me kicking.
You very clearly came and it

1243
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,640
looked like blew up the kicker
and the holder before I even

1244
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,040
finished the kick meter.
And kind of the same way with

1245
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,760
sacking the quarterback, it just
didn't register.

1246
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,480
You're fine.
Yeah, It feels like it treats a

1247
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,080
couple situations with in these
weird sort of special

1248
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,480
circumstances and that is very
frustrating and tough to kind of

1249
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,920
sort of figure out how it's
working.

1250
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,600
I get it, I get it and I agree.
I don't disagree.

1251
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,720
All right, guys.
Well, I think that's going to

1252
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,880
cover it for today.
We've covered the Joy Pros and

1253
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,320
the Joy Cons and every bit in
between.

1254
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:23,000
So it's time to declare today's
game as either a Nintendo or a

1255
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,600
Nintendo.
Don't.

1256
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,400
Brad, can we throw it to you
first?

1257
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,400
Would you recommend Tecmo Bowl
and the NES?

1258
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,680
Yeah, absolutely, definitely
Nintendo.

1259
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,560
Even coming from someone who
doesn't really like football

1260
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,320
that much, you know, I never
really got into it.

1261
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,200
It's not that I hated it, just
something never really checked

1262
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,960
out much.
But it's the first time I really

1263
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,080
played a this one in general.
I was playing it on Thanksgiving

1264
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,400
Day.
I think it's going to be my

1265
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,360
Thanksgiving tradition now be
with some Techmo Bowl and I'm

1266
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,400
not going to be watching any
football, but I'll I'll play

1267
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,440
some Techmo Bowl for sure.
I love that.

1268
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,920
Definitely recommend it.
I'll play with you again.

1269
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,840
Yeah, I'm, I'm so much the same
boat.

1270
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,800
Like I don't, I'm not the
football guy.

1271
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,520
I don't normally like football
games because to me they're

1272
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,080
usually overly complicated.
The huge playbooks and the long

1273
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,600
quarters and you know all, I can
pass it all.

1274
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,800
But you got to hold down these
two shoulder buttons to catch it

1275
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,680
in Madden and you have such
control over every aspect and

1276
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,880
it's just, it's too much for me.
I love the punchiness of this.

1277
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,360
I loved how Mike said the 92nd
quarters 2 button gameplay.

1278
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,160
I think it's I think it's my new
favorite sports game that we've

1279
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,280
covered for the show.
So for me, solid Nintendo as

1280
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,880
well.
Jordan, what about you?

1281
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,800
Yeah, So I was going to say, I
feel like the only way I would

1282
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,840
say this is a don't is for
people who don't care for

1283
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,240
football, but especially after
hearing Brad say who doesn't

1284
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,680
really care for football, say
that he enjoys playing it.

1285
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:51,560
I mean, even even if you don't
watch, understand, play, care

1286
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,840
for football, whatever, at the
end of the day, it just very

1287
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,200
much feels like you're just
playing a simple like sit down

1288
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,160
arcade game, more or less.
I mean, you don't have to know

1289
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,360
what you're doing.
You just kind of know that this

1290
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,520
guy has the ball and he needs to
get to the other side of the

1291
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,600
field and the other team has to
stop him.

1292
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,400
If you know those aspects of
football, you can play this game

1293
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,160
and probably enjoy it.
So it's definitely a Nintendo

1294
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,440
for me.
I feel like we've made you guys

1295
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,520
better friends cuz now you have
a football game you'll play

1296
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,280
together.
Of course.

1297
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,640
Yeah, we we still have to play
it cuz I played Mike and I

1298
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,680
played Jamo.
I haven't played Brad yet, so.

1299
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,640
So if you beat Brad then we get
that point, right?

1300
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,880
Isn't that how it works like?
Hey now, what's going on or

1301
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:31,680
something?
Sounds shit.

1302
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,640
No, man, this is, this is.
We gotta get out here, Brad.

1303
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,800
This is getting iffy.
So Mike, I think you had the

1304
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,000
roughest time against the single
players, but where you landing?

1305
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:45,080
I think for as much as that was
frustrating, like I wish I had

1306
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,400
the ability to if I had to go,
you know, you have to win each

1307
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,960
week to go to the next week.
I wish I could either accept

1308
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,320
some losses and just see how I
do in a season and move past

1309
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,880
teams that were more difficult
or choose the teams.

1310
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,240
Yeah.
And I mean, honestly, if I'm

1311
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,080
saying what I wish they would
do, I could do.

1312
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,680
I'd also wish that that they
would bring college football's

1313
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,120
national championship to from
the second Genesis to the

1314
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,880
Nintendo Switch online service.
Was that your game?

1315
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,760
Yes, OK, So I can have college
sports, but as they haven't done

1316
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,640
that and I we, I don't think we
have enough cachet to get that

1317
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,480
to happen yet.
Yeah, I think I'm still going

1318
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,600
and like I, I'm definitely going
to intend to do on this because

1319
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:35,640
like, even though I lost very
harshly the first 3, three games

1320
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,640
I played, like it was a rough
hour.

1321
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Like I came back to it, went
through it again.

1322
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,240
And like, so it still pulled me
back.

1323
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,680
I went back and tried to see if
I could beat Minnesota in a

1324
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,120
break today and I still can't.
But like the fact that I'm kind

1325
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,360
of keep coming back and it's a
short enough time span where I'm

1326
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,120
like, if I can just have one
good game, I can make it to the

1327
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,200
next point.
And it has checked.

1328
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,560
It does have passwords.
Yeah.

1329
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,960
So it has the sense where I can
work my way through if I can

1330
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,000
have a good run.
So, Nintendo for you.

1331
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,080
It's a Nintendo for me, very
nice.

1332
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,000
Well, guys, I'm stoked.
I think we're gonna call that

1333
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,000
game over for today.
The final score for Techno Bowl.

1334
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,520
A resounding Nintendo from all
four, four for four.

1335
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,520
I love it.
Brad Jordan.

1336
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,960
It was always so nice to talk to
you boys.

1337
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,240
And it's even nicer getting you
guys both on the screen at the

1338
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,840
same time Here.
Before we go, why don't you

1339
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,720
remind our listeners where they
can find Arcadiology?

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Yeah pretty much anywhere you
can get podcasts.

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01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,080
I know you hop in there but I'll
take it away and pretty much

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anywhere you can get podcasts.
We have 50 main episodes out and

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,600
I think maybe like 2 bonus
episodes we're currently on a

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01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,800
little bit of a break here.
Maybe by the time you're here

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,360
and this, maybe we'll be back up
and running.

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01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,440
Not too sure yet.
But either way, you got 50

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01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,960
episodes out there, some deep
dives on all kinds of arcade

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,680
games.
As we said before, a lot of like

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01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,760
unknown games we throw in there.
We'll we'll hop in and get your

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01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,360
your big names every five
episodes or so.

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,040
But you'll definitely find a lot
of games you've never heard of,

1352
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,120
and maybe find a new favorite
arcade game like I did.

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,280
Awesome.
No.

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,600
All right, guys, that sounds
Northeast excellent.

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,880
Everyone join us next time and
we'll be racking our brains over

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,080
the puzzling perils of Solomon's
Key on the NES.

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,279
Also, don't forget to visit
www.theoldswitcharoo.com.

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,520
There you can find links to our
Spotify, our Discord, our

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,399
YouTube, our TikTok, and all the
social medias you can shake a

1360
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,960
joystick at.
Big thanks to Crystal Fields for

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01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,080
our incredible intro song.
And please, dear listener, don't

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,240
forget to like and subscribe.
Every click means a lot and you

1363
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,359
mean a lot to us.
Until next time, this has been

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01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,200
the old Switcheroo where you've
been talking gaming retro with

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,040
Mike and Jamo.
I've been Mike.

1366
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,319
And I've been jamo game on
everyone.

1367
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,800
I didn't know that you're tatted
up either.

1368
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,359
You got like a whole sleeve.
Yeah, dude, like both arms, my

1369
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:10,160
legs, I got all kinds of stuff.
What's your favorite one?

1370
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,200
I'll have to send you a picture
of it, it'd be hard to show you

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01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,200
from here.
But I have a on.

1372
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,680
My calf, yeah, I I do have one
on my butt, but it's not that

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01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,520
one on my calf.
I have.

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,120
It's a tattoo of me and my six
favorite Pokémon.

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,560
So it's kind of like me and my
team.

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,120
That's dope, yeah.
I'll have to send you a picture

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,240
of it.
In the tattoo Do you have a

1378
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,160
tattoo yourself?
Yes, yes, my tattoos are

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,160
tattooed on the tattoo.