S4E02: Chibi-Robo! -or- What It's Like to be Mr. Butlertron: A Rope of Sand

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And I'll say spread the
happiness everyone, because it's

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time for the old switcheroo
where we're talking gaming retro

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with Mike and Jamo.
I'm Mike and I'm Jamo.

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Join us on our epic quest to
research and review all 300 plus

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games in the Nintendo Classics
catalog.

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Today we are scrubbing and
scrounging our way through our

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show's very first GameCube game,
Chibi Robo.

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Plug into adventure in an
episode we are calling What it's

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like to be Mr. Butlertron Colon
a Rope of sand.

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Don't forget If you like what
you hear, don't forget to like,

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subscribe, and of course, play
along.

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Principal Lunsworth, what do you
think of my title?

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I appreciate that our titles are
already too long and then you've

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borrowed an also already too
long title.

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From what?
Clone High, yeah.

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I was like, he's either not
going to remember or this is

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going to be his favorite.
So Mike, we can't run an

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institution to the ground
without a shadow we figure

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looming over us.
Do you have anyone in mind?

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Yes, so podcast that I was on
last year, Super Wall Jump, we

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have Lawson who did a very good
job of better researching our

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show than I think I did going
on.

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Glad to have him here for this.
Hello, yes, I am here.

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It's nice, it's good to be here,
and I can't wait to talk about

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Chibi Robo and about this tiny,
adorable little robot.

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Before we do that, do you want
to explain a little bit about

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sort of what your goal is with
super with?

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Super Watch Up is my podcast
where I interview content

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creators and video game
consumers and everything in

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between about video games.
I've had obviously Mike on and

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we talked about game design over
time with Nintendo.

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I've had people come on and talk
about their thesis about GTA

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Online role-playing communities
and what that means like for

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society broadly in terms of
people seeking out third spaces

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online.
And overall, I just try and talk

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about the intersection of video
games and digital culture and

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have a good time doing it.
That's dope A.

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Couple developers as well.
Oh yeah, a couple more

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developers.
By the time that you're

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listening to this listener, I
will have at least have had

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three different developers on to
talk about their games and their

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process in making their games.
So if you're interested in how

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video games are made, it's also
a good listen for that.

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Video games are hard to make, by
the way.

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I, I listened to your interviews
with a variety of mics, a

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plethora almost of mics and you
don't, you don't cast like a

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newbie like this is a relatively
new show, but do you know what's

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your content creation experience
prior to starting Super Wall

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Jump?
I'm unfortunately an actor.

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I in college, I was going for
engineering and then two years

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into engineering, I'm like, wow,
if I have to design A lamp and

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that's just my job for the rest
of my life, I am going to kill

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myself.
So I changed majors entirely.

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I went into telecommunications
production, which is film.

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And so I do.
I'm a sound mixer, and I'm also

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an actor.
And last year I was in my

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feature film debut in a movie
called Night Shift, produced by

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Puppet Combo, which if you play
retro indie horror games, you

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might recognize the name.
And maybe you've seen me in that

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movie.
But yeah, I have the training.

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And also at a certain point you
learn how to do editing and it

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kills you inside, but you get
used to it.

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It's killed Mike inside.
He does our editing.

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I was already dead inside, so it
wasn't as much of a problem.

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OK, good.
No, no, no damage done then.

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All right, Well, guys, without
further ado, I think there's an

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estranged family in need of some
chibi therapy.

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Are you guys ready to make
people happy?

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Happy, happy.
We definitely won't make it any

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worse.
OK, let's dive into Chibi Robo

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Plug into Adventure, released on
the GameCube in 2006.

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As described on Nintendo Switch
Online slash Nintendo Classics,

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the little robot who wants to
bring happiness to all Chibi

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Robot is a four inch tall robot
who's arrived at the Sanderson

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house with the goal of helping
the family get the most out of

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life and happy and find
happiness.

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I'm sorry, I'm laughing with
what Lawson said about how

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you're going to cause all these
problems.

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This description is kind of
dark.

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If you kind of if you know, you
know.

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Day or night.
He'll help however he can,

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whether that's by cleaning or
looking for lost items in this

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chibi action adventure title
originally released from

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Nintendo GameCube system in
2006, he'll aim for the top of

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the chibi ranking by gathering
happy points and moolah, AKA

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money.
It's rumored that Shibi Robo

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will become Super Chibi Robo if
he reaches the top of the

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rankings.
But between a daughter who only

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speaks in the language of frogs
and toys that come alive when

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humans aren't around, Shibi Robo
has his work cut out for him in

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the mystery packed Sanderson
house.

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It just reminds me of like wacky
anime, you know, in a really

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good way.
What was that?

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One was like fully cooly and it
like had people like weird horns

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growing out of people's.
You don't talk about Lawson.

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Oh oh I've seen Foodie Cootie
and I also know it's a very fun

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anime and I love that it was
only 4 episodes and they never

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made any other seasons.
That's that's the best part.

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It's short, sweet and they never
made more of it, so that way it

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gets to stay good.
Forever.

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Well, I think short and sweet
perfect segue into the box art

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description.
We are looking at the North

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American box art here you have
the titular Chibi Robo hefting

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his little plug up onto his head
to carry it and he's for scale

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in the background, some kind of
tea set.

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Mike, what's your take on the
box art for Chibi Robo?

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It's.
Hard because this does look

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almost like this was just
straight up they made they made

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this as like a model.
Yeah.

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And I kind of, I don't know, I
feel like I kind of want

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something more, but I can't
really specify what more because

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what more can you really put on
there because you're the robot

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running around.
I agree with you, it seems a

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little simple because I think
such a draw of this game is the

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weird side characters.
So it's like kind of a miss to

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not get that.
But Lawson, have you seen the

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Japanese box art?
I have not seen the Japanese box

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art.
I only I got this game as a kid

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in North America so.
So brace yourself, check this

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out.
Well, awesome.

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Will you tell our listeners who
can't see the difference between

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North America and Japan?
Injured the SO in the American

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version he is holding the plug
above his head and the logo and

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plug into Adventure is also
above it.

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In the Japanese version his plug
tail is on the ground and he's

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holding a worryingly photo
realistic scrap of paper and the

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like title of the game was
underneath along with another

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version of him holding the plug
like by the title.

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But I do think it's hurt.
This is more what the game was

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about.
But I feel like they should have

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had a different kind of trash
because if you look in the back,

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in the background, you can see
there's another scrap of paper.

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And so it looks like you're only
picking up scraps of paper

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instead of like doing anything
else.

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And it's a bit more than picking
up scraps of paper.

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Am I crazy though?
And there's some level of like

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kind of cultural touchstone for
each one where it's like

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American and we're like, we're
carrying our own plug and

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Japanese like he's serving,
right.

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And because I feel like that's
that's something that's

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appreciated more outside of this
country is like the sort of

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servant mentality.
I don't know.

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Am I way off base here?
Is that a weird thing to say?

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I mean, it is a little bit like
pulling yourself up by your

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bootstraps.
There is a little bit of that

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and the North American.
But OK, carrying your own plug.

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I think that you're trying to
keep it simple for American

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audiences.
Like yes, he has a tail that's

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also a plug and that's
important, but also you're tying

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it into plug into adventure.
And I can't read Japanese so I

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don't know if the Japanese one
also says plug into adventure.

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Oh, good question.
Yeah, I don't.

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Think, I don't think it does.
I think it just says Chibi Robo.

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So the plug is not nearly as
front and center because it

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there's they're not centering on
the plug.

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I do like that, at least for the
English.

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I don't know if it works on the
Japanese that the dots of the

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eyes are little outlets.
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Like they it's used on the
Japanese as well, but I don't

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know if that's actually.
Meaningful.

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Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think so.
Listener I we should point out

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that not only are there dots on
like the Japanese one, but these

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dots are the two prong outlet,
not the three prong there is.

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There are no three prong outlets
in the entire game.

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It's two prong only.
Because this movie isn't

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grounded in reality.
That's an electricity joke.

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I got that one.
Well, so this game was directed

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by Kenichi Nishi.
We will meet him again when we

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cover the sexy sci-fi
swashbuckler psycho dream for

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the SNES.
Last to know this one.

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I have no idea, but that image
is terrifying to me.

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Don't describe it.
OK, I was about to describe it

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and I now I won't.
It's an alien shaped like

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something moving on, I thought.
It was AI thought it was a weird

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dragon that was also kind of a
bat.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
Look up Psycho Dream Well,

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Psycho Dream Chippy Robo was
originally developed as a point

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and click title in which the
player would not control the

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titular character directly, but
instead instructing to perform

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various tasks to defend the home
of his inventor against a pair

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of French stereotypes trying to
burglarize the house at night.

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However, when the original
publisher Bandai lost interest

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in the project, it was trapped
in development limbo for several

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years until famed Nintendo
director Shigodo Miyamoto was

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shown the project by a friend.
Nintendo acquired the publishing

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rights and retooled the game as
a puzzle platformer, but two

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Bandai brands remain in the
game.

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You guys know which ones I'm
talking about?

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Drake Redcrest I.
Wish.

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Sadly, no something.
Primo Primo puel.

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Primo puel.
How would you guys say this?

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I should have looked it up.
Sorry, PRIMOPUEL.

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Yeah, Primo Puel.
Crema Fuel was an actual toy,

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very popular in Japan.
It would say over 280 random

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phrases to at different points
in the day.

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So it would like say good
morning to you and say goodnight

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and say it's bored when it
hasn't been like interacted

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with.
And it was a really big hit in

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Japan.
So you can find one of these

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actually in the game, brand name
and all.

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And my personal favorite, the
fully functioning Tamagotchi.

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Do you remember this, Lawson?
Honestly, I don't think I ever

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came across the Tamagotchi like
ever.

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You can't get it until you beat
the game and go back because

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there's an event that happens
with that unveils it.

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And so then you can give it to
the Sanderson husband or

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Sanderson dad, I guess you'd
say.

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And when he's not playing with
it, you can come up on the table

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and you can actually play the
Tamagotchi.

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You can decide to pet it or
scold it or like turn off.

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Did you guys have Tamagotchis?
I did not.

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I had I had Pokémon, but I think
that I just missed the

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Tamagotchi wave or my parents
when I said Tamagotchi, their

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brains just sort of smoothed
over and they were.

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Like, uh huh, uh huh.
I might have had knock off

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Tamagotchi.
Yeah, yeah, Might had like a

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crazy active bowel system.
Like, it was like embarrassing.

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Like classmates would ask why my
Tamagotchi was pooping so much.

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I'm sorry, that's too personal.
So Speaking of the kind of toy

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market here, Chibi Robo would go
on to have 4 sequels, the last

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of which is the infamously mid
grappling hook 2D platformer

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Chibi Robo Ziplash for the 3DS.
Amusingly though, in November of

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2018, Nintendo tweeted A context
list image of Chibi Robo

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bursting into flames.
But when a surprise Nintendo

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Direct happened the next day
with no Chibi Robo content, this

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became a meme for the misplaced
and desperate enthusiasm of the

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average Nintendo fan.
Chibi Robo for Smash.

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I right?
We don't need Goku, we need

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Chibi Robo and he needs to be to
scale.

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That Oh my gosh.
It's just it's two pixels on the

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screen moving around very
slowly.

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I think that could be so
interesting though, to see in

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like a tournament where
everyone's playing as the two

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pixels.
That could be fun.

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There's a drinking game that I
sometimes play called Yoshi

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Roulette where you get 8 level 9
CPU Yoshi's and you bet which

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Yoshi's going to win.
Oh, that's fun.

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You bet on like the color Yoshi.
Yeah, it's like, oh, I, I bet

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three shots on blue Yoshi.
Well, I bet like a 32nd sip on

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wool and Yoshi or what have you
and that, but even harder to

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figure out what's happening.
Could be fun.

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That is so fun.
We have to, we have to do a

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bonus episode where we do that
and we record it and like we

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just talk, you know?
That'd be fun.

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We'll we'll cast the AI battle.
You just got to do the announcer

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thing of and now the green
Yoshi's going to do a backup

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already spike you off the edge.
The people's elbow.

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Oh.
My God, that's Yoshi's music.

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What?
Oh, like the wrestler intro?

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That's funny.
So before we get into the joy

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pros and joy cons, what's our
history with this game and how

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far did we get?
Lawson, can we throw it to you?

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I played this game as a kid.
I did not beat the game as a

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child and then as an adult, I
streamed the game last year on

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my Twitch channel.
Let me tell you, I am not

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surprised child Lawson did not
figure this game out.

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Because adult Lawson could not
figure this game out.

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I had to look up a guide from
2004 and be like, you want me to

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do what?
In what order, huh?

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And I did beat the game, but I I
do not think that 10 year old

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Lawson could have figured it
out.

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OK, but you nintended I mean
computer.

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Yes, adult me was able to use
the power of the Internet to

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look at things other than
Pokémon and found it was really

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good.
It had the old like ASCII art

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where they just make a bunch of
cool images with like hashtags

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and number signs.
It was great.

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But I did finally beat the game
and I'm like, huh, that's

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awesome.
Mike, your experience with Chibi

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Robo?
First time I believe.

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Yeah, because I had never heard
of this.

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OK.
And so and really, especially

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with like, I really didn't play
the GameCube, so that whole era

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is quasi dark to me.
OK, OK.

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This required me getting the
switch to and getting that set

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up and working and everything.
Yes.

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So that didn't happen until like
36 hours ago.

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OK, so fresh.
So this was your first switch to

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title?
Yes.

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Wow, OK.
Your first Switch 2 game was a

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game from 2000.
Bravo.

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That's like, that's like some
hipster award like achievement.

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I mean, I feel like my first
switch game was quite possibly

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Pokémon snap or something so.
A bigger gap, Yeah.

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So you're scooting along, though
I noticed you made good

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progress.
How far did you get?

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Yeah, well, I decided like, I
can probably get in like two

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hours to get a good sense of
this.

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And then 4 1/2 hours later, it
was like, I really need to stop

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doing this.
I think I just have this one

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thing to do to get to a new
thing.

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So I stopped.
Yeah, I stopped at 4 1/2 hours

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and.
OK.

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I think I was making decent
progress.

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Yeah, I'm something in the like
with the happiness ranking that

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scales in a very stupid way.
I wouldn't say it was probably

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around 1200 happiness, OK, which
I think it was 80 on the ranking

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because it does this weird thing
where you have happiness points

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and it lets you know what your
ranking is compared to all the

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other chippy robos out there.
Yeah.

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And you start off at 100,000 A.
100,000 OK.

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And like, it drops very, very
fast.

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Like you really shoot up those
rankings in a way that almost

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didn't feel satisfying.
OK, because.

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It was like it, it was so much
of a jump where I'm just like,

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oh, is this just like no one
else is trying?

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So I'm moving up the rankings
very fast.

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I I think not to defend like
such a such an arbitrary thing,

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but I think that is a bit of a
tension build because as the

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game goes on, your jump in the
ranking gets lower and lower and

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you're like, oh, like I'm, I'm
climbing the mountain as it were

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of the chibi rankings.
And so it's an achievement with

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every last point you get.
So I do think, I don't know,

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lost in them.
Are you with me?

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That's kind of a storytelling
technique.

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A little bit, yeah.
You're getting.

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The thing is when you're
climbing real life leaderboards,

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being able to get to the like,
top percentile is going to be

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harder and harder and harder.
Like think about how good the

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average person is at chess.
Bad.

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So to be in the top 50% of chess
players, you don't have to be

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very good, you just have to know
how the pieces move.

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There is a difference between I
am kind of all right and like I

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can move upon.
Congratulations, you moved up

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100,000 exactly like it.
Like I definitely agree, like

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it's going to get your movement
up.

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It is going to get less as you
get towards the top.

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It was just felt a bit too.
Abrupted.

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Yeah, it changed dramatically.
I just looked at how long it

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took me to beat Shiba Robo and
looking at it took me about 12

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hours.
OK, so I beat it.

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Sorry.
So Mike, you did not beat this

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game, but you've made a decent
bite out of it.

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Yeah, I think some solid
progress.

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Well, I have been playing this
game ever since Lawson joined

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our discord.
And by the way, everyone, you

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should do you, you, you washed
onto our shores, Lawson two days

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after Shibi Robo was announced.
And we're like, hey, Lawson,

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what's your favorite game?
Shibi Robo?

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And it's like, what the how
serendipitous is that?

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That was amazing.
So if this is a castaway

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situation, am I Tom Hanks or am
I Wilson?

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I mean, you're giving Wilson
vibes, but I think that's a

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compliment like Wilson.
I I need to get some more sun.

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So I've been playing it ever
since he recommended it and this

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game made me like Majora's Mask
less because I had to stop

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playing this game to beat all of
Majora's Mask.

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But man, I was thinking if she'd
be Robo the whole time.

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Guys, I really like this game.
Weirdly similar games, right?

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There's a strange through line.
And both times you're like,

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what's going on?
Yeah, so with a guide when

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needed and creative use of safe
states, there are some random

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events that get a lot easier if
you can save state and go back.

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I'd intended beat Chibi Robo.
How many?

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Computer.
You did that to figure out the

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spies, didn't you?
I did.

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He's referring to a military
mini game where you the little

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egg soldiers swap back and forth
and it gets so fast there's no

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way you can keep track of it.
Oh yeah.

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Unless you know in advance which
one's wrong.

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Or you keep track of it.
OK, I my eye wasn't fast enough,

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but my determination was enough
to get to the end of this game.

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So, Lawson, will you lead us in
a discussion of the Joy Pros of

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Chibi Robo?
What makes this game cool?

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This game has so many things
going on, and I say that in a

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very positive way.
For example, this game is Toy

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Story.
All the toys come to life at

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night.
All of them have deep seated

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emotional trauma.
It's great.

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You don't know why any of them
are doing any of the things that

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they are, and they don't quite
know it either, but they know

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that this is what I do.
I live in a shoebox.

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Oh, I'm an army man.
I'm in the army, I'm going to

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fight to the death.
They don't know why they're

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doing this.
They just do, and that's great.

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And that also, like, goes across
the entirety of the cast, not

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just the toys, because you also
have the dog and the family for

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as long as it lasts.
Well, with the toys, I mean this

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even has like very much a Buzz
Lightyear character space Ranger

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doing patrols or it's just like
I can't not notice this.

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Yeah, well, what's interesting
about that though, is that they

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would not make a good Toy Story
game until way after this.

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So it's almost like Nintendo
because when they retooled this

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from a point and Click to this
style of game, it's almost like

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Nintendo 0 down.
What would make a Toy Story game

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really fun if you know it was
done properly.

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There was a good Toy Story game
by this time.

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I mean, there was a side scroll
around Genesis which was really

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beautiful.
Look at and had a lot of

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gameplay variety, but I don't
know if it's regarded as

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particularly good.
I don't know, Lost, you know,

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Did you ever play Toy Story on
this Sega Genesis?

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I never played any Toy Story
games.

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I haven't even played Kingdom
Hearts 3 which has a Toy Story

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section.
Yeah, that's pretty close.

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Yeah.
All right, this is going to be

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the nerdiest thing I believe,
and Sarah will know for sure,

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but I believe Toy Story 3 is the
best reviewed Toy Story game so

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far.
But this game, for me, it

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scratches such an itch of
tidying this shared virtual

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space.
I don't know why, but it was

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very Animal Crossing in the way
that that game knows exactly how

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many times make you press the
button for scrubbing a spot on

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the floor to be satisfying.
It's almost like you're getting

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that satisfaction of OK, guys,
mash the button, mash the

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button.
That was that one was a

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stubborn.
That was a stubborn stain.

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But that simple endorphin rush
of tidying a space.

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Mike though, I don't think you
played that way because I was

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watching you stream with Keegis,
I think is the name, and this

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monster was leaving spills all
over the place.

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Partially down in the basement.
I hadn't realized that I thought

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those were texture OK rather
than spills.

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Partially also.
Yeah.

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Especially because I did not
really like.

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I did not like the having to
mash the button.

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Really.
Part Yeah.

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I thought it just made it so
visceral.

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I don't know.
The game captures the feeling of

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being able to accomplish tasks
just really easily.

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Oh, hey, yeah, you do a task,
you get a reward.

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You clean up a little footprint
from a dog, you get a reward.

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You go and get like a stubborn
crayon drawing off a wall, you

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get a reward.
You throw, you pick up trash,

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you get a reward.
And it's a great way to like

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gamify the moment to moment
gameplay.

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So that way if you are a child
playing this game, you can just

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say, all right, little Timmy, go
and pick up trash.

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And you know, we can build some
good habits.

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But also the more of the
cleaning you do, it just also

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has a good gameplay benefit of
getting you money and happiness

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points.
I do wonder just how this entire

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economy works of who the heck's
paying you both in general.

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Like, because the a whole key
premise of this is the father

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has bought the unemployed father
has bought a fancy robot for an

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8 year old's birthday where the
8 year old doesn't really seem

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to care about it.
Yeah, she's won over but doesn't

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really care about it.
The wife is unhappy and of

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course I can't trust this enough
that he apparently parties so

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hard he sleep, he sleeps it off
in the like in the living room

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for the party that is him, his
wife and his eight-year old.

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So.
It's a weird vibe.

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I do think that is a case of OK
cool, whenever I drink I need to

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sleep on the couch or else my
wife will get mad.

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That is how I read that as he is
sort of permanently in the

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doghouse forever and so he just
preemptively sleeps on the

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00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,120
couch.
Yeah, it's the whole thing is

448
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,000
just like it.
But yeah, so it's like they

449
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,640
don't necessarily have the
money, but then you do a lot of

450
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,560
stuff that especially before
they've keyed into you doing

451
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,040
this and you're getting paid or
it's things like you were nice

452
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,920
to the fish, here's money.
And it's like, dude, are the

453
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,920
fish part of this this economy?
Like did the fish pay me on

454
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,600
this?
What I'm thinking is everyone is

455
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,720
stealing from the family.
Oh my God, like it.

456
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,920
Like broadly, all of the toys,
all of like the animals, all of

457
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,800
the creatures that are not quite
toys or animals that are still

458
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,840
there, All of them are just
straight up stealing money from

459
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,400
the family.
So they have a ton of it lying

460
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,960
around and that's why they're in
financial duress.

461
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840
The whole the whole house is
basically a Banana Republic.

462
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,200
Basically, Yeah.
Oh, there's coins lying all over

463
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,440
the place.
And no.

464
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,360
And like the, you know, the
humans can't seem to find them.

465
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Yeah, because all the toys are
waking up in the middle of the

466
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,480
night.
They're like, all right, cool.

467
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640
Time to get the shiny things out
of the wife's wallet.

468
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,520
And then they're going and
stashing them all over the

469
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,720
place.
And I I what I do like about the

470
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,880
way this handles, I guess both
the coins and the happiness to

471
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,920
at least the extent that I have
is my grasp on the game.

472
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Maybe I'm wrong about this is so
the game has a day night cycle.

473
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920
Basically each time you go
between day and night, you have

474
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,480
to go back to your base and kind
of things reset and that means

475
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,240
there's new tasks to get
happiness that will appear.

476
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,480
That also means that a lot of
spots with the coins to pick up

477
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,920
are back.
And so because there doesn't

478
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,600
seem to be an overall ticking
clock, like there's not a, you

479
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,360
have to finish the game by a
certain point.

480
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,080
If you're moving slower, you
kind of, it seems can just kind

481
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,640
of grind that up a bit more.
And so it doesn't, you can

482
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,320
certainly do things faster or
more efficiently.

483
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,120
Like one of the benefits of
leveling up the happiness you is

484
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,680
because you're this little robot
that has to be powered.

485
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,240
And so you have to find outlets
and recharge.

486
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,000
You can increase your battery
life if you're good at this.

487
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960
I could see doing this with less
battery life and not worrying

488
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560
about that as much.
If you're going at a slower

489
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,680
pace, you're able to kind of
build that up in a way.

490
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,520
So this game kind of really felt
like there wasn't as much of a

491
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840
skill threshold so much as it
was.

492
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,400
You could do this faster, but if
you're not things still

493
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,160
accumulating as you're doing
stuff, there's stuff to do.

494
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Yeah, it should be pointed out
that every action in the game

495
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,240
costs energy.
And if you run out of energy,

496
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,160
your day ends and then you have
to start the next day or night.

497
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200
So you have to be mindful of,
OK, cool, how much energy do I

498
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,120
have?
Do I have enough energy to do

499
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:04,120
this task and then go and plug
in in one of the outlets?

500
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,120
Nodding like life.
I mean, it's, it's a little bit

501
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,240
like life.
Do I have the energy to go to

502
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,560
the grocery store and cook
dinner and file my taxes?

503
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,720
No, sorry IRS, it's not
happening.

504
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,120
But it is funny though, like I
think this game is well written.

505
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,960
I think it's the, the, the plot
is very clever and very real.

506
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,040
And the developers said that
they wanted to delve into darker

507
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,800
subjects such as divorce and
climate change and

508
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,840
misinformation.
And like, it's, there's, there's

509
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,240
a lot of, you know, like kind of
that a good Disney movie has

510
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,360
jokes that only the adults will
laugh at because they're just no

511
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560
more about the world.
You know what I'm talking about.

512
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,760
I feel like this game has that
in spades and like there are

513
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,920
points where it was genuinely
heartbreaking seeing some of

514
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,680
them going through these
struggles, particularly Jenny

515
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,240
when she knows her parents are
considering a divorce.

516
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,680
The animation, the, the way that
the Sprite is drawn, you just

517
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,800
really feel for her.
And it's this little girl, it's

518
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
a little 8 year old girl
kneeling alone in a dark

519
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,520
hallway, hearing her parents
argue on the others.

520
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Like that's, that's a moment.
Are you guys with me?

521
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Like this is this is good stuff.
Oh, yeah.

522
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,840
I think there's a lot that's
said just in a or it's a joke

523
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,760
that says a lot is at some point
when the wife made a comment of

524
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
like, I should have married you.
And it's just like you are

525
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,840
saying that to a tiny robot.
This is such a sad state of your

526
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,160
life, right?
Yeah.

527
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,240
I I think something important to
lay out for the listener is you

528
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,160
being purchased almost causes a
divorce because the father is

529
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,960
unemployed and buys you and
apparently you were expensive,

530
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,240
has a crippling toy addiction,
and the daughter allegedly is

531
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,320
cursed to speak frog and only
talks in ribbits.

532
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,040
So you are coming into a
household basically on the brink

533
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,240
because it also seems as if the
husband has been unemployed for

534
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,720
a while.
Yeah.

535
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,120
And has not tried to find a job
so you have no income because

536
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120
the mom is a stay at home mom.
You have a daughter that is

537
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480
clearly going through something
they need a therapist for but

538
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,960
they can't afford.
Yeah.

539
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800
And the dad is there.
There's stuff going on.

540
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,960
And also their house is haunted
by ghosts and aliens and toys

541
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040
that come alive at night and.
Steal your wallet?

542
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,480
I'm intrigued to find out more
with this to the extent of if

543
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,080
she is was more verbal and now
it's just like Justin Rivets,

544
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560
no?
I, I believe it was she like if

545
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,200
you get the frog suit by being
nice to the frog and like saving

546
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,360
the frog, the frog's like, hey
buddy, guess what, you get a

547
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,200
frog suit.
You can talk to frogs now and

548
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,160
then you can finally talk to the
8 year old.

549
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,560
Yeah, but it's like.
She cops frog language.

550
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Like genuinely frog language.
Because I view this also as

551
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800
you're getting doing more and
starting to accurate because

552
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,920
like the initial stuff she is,
she has is just rivets like in

553
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,800
the opening stuff and later on
starts getting worse.

554
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,080
So I was also wondering to what
extent this is almost closer to

555
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,840
a kid who it who was non verbal.
Yeah.

556
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Who?
Which honestly, if we throw that

557
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,800
together with that dad, it's not
the craziest thing to be like,

558
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,600
well, there's a genetic
component to autism.

559
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,640
Yeah.
So did you see these characters,

560
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,720
some of them being potentially
like on the spectrum?

561
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,560
I I would frame that I can
definitely see someone from that

562
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,760
perspective seeing similarities
in that.

563
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,800
It's like a valid read, is what
you're saying.

564
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,120
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.

565
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,080
I was encouraged to learn that
Jenny does show up again in the

566
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,040
series as much older and you can
see that like she's doing OK

567
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,400
because like, I don't know, but
you guys, But like, I just

568
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,360
genuinely like felt really
connected to this family in a

569
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920
way that I don't think game
characters often do.

570
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Limiting the gameplay to just
being you're in this house with

571
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640
these four people and you're
going to be talking to them a

572
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,880
whole lot and you're going to be
seeing them in moments where

573
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840
they don't think they're being
watched by anyone.

574
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,520
It was very voyeuristic, but not
in a creepy way, like in a

575
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,800
vulnerable way or some of the.
They're written as whole people.

576
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Yeah.
Not they're not.

577
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Just like I'm a I'm a lazy dad,
you know that He feels bad all

578
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,480
the time.
Because he lies about his

579
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,080
finances to his wife, he hides
the receipts.

580
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
That's bad.
The wife is like, hey, I love my

581
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,520
kid, I love my husband, but also
I'm at the end of my rope.

582
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680
We are having significant money
troubles.

583
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Where are we going to cut costs?
Yeah, like I do really like the

584
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,160
like within the same
conversation, you'll have her

585
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,280
both be like, I my husband's
total mess and also be like, Oh

586
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320
yeah, she, you know, she's
drawing.

587
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,880
I can't draw.
She must get that from her

588
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,200
husband.
Which is this level of like,

589
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,280
yeah, there's things in there
that I like, but I, I can't deal

590
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,840
with this, which I appreciate.
Although a related point on

591
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,760
those conversations, I don't
understand how to interact with

592
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,360
some of those conversations
because so Shibi Robo somewhat

593
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,960
as a key point, does not.
Talk right, non verbal.

594
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,840
You have a sidekick television
who will?

595
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,960
A lot.
He talks so much.

596
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,760
Unless bailing and will
frequently, like, facilitate the

597
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,480
conversations, but you have
these sort of one-on-one

598
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,360
conversations.
And then you'll get like a yes

599
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,440
or no prompt.
And sometimes it's like, hey, do

600
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,720
you like the house?
And there's like a yes or no.

601
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
And like, you don't really know
what gets said, but it's like,

602
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,160
oh, I can tell flattery.
It's like, OK, yeah, fine.

603
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,440
But other times, I don't
understand how yes or no is a

604
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,600
response to that.
And I'm like, am I supposed to

605
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,400
be like, what do those mean?
Because that wasn't a question.

606
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,960
Yeah.
There wasn't a thing where it

607
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,480
was like, hey, what do you think
about this?

608
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,639
It's other things.
I'm like, I don't know what yes

609
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,639
and no mean now.
Right.

610
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,440
And that is your only two
responses to everything.

611
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600
But a lot of cutscenes, it
doesn't change a thing.

612
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,280
You'll say no and they'll be
like, don't be crazy.

613
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,040
That's clearly on fire.
Chippy Robo, do you see the

614
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,360
fire?
No, don't be crazy.

615
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719
It's clearly on fire.
It'll just loop you, you know

616
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,560
what I mean?
I feel like it's like talking to

617
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,120
certain people sometimes,
though, because I don't know

618
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,159
about you guys.
I often times get into

619
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,000
conversations with strangers or
just people while I'm working

620
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:53,880
who just go on and on and on.
And you got to hang with a or.

621
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,720
Man that's crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy, man.

622
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,880
And I think that's just what
like the yeses and Nos are.

623
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960
They're just and man, that's
crazy.

624
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,240
Give me the give me just a man
that's crazy as an option and no

625
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,400
other option and I'm cool with
it.

626
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,880
But it's thing where I'm like, I
feel like there's a right or

627
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,480
wrong answer and I don't
understand what that right or

628
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320
wrong answer is.
And like, if I wanted that

629
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,640
situation, I would talk with
people for real.

630
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,920
I mean, I think she'd be real
but just doesn't care.

631
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,640
He's like, man, I'm here to
clean up messes and by the end

632
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,320
of the game you are solving the
energy crisis by talking to

633
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,600
aliens.
But along the way, the gameplay

634
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,920
variety is really interesting.
So, Mike, I kind of feel like

635
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,000
I'm getting the vibe that if
Lawson and I can avoid spoilers,

636
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360
we maybe should, because I feel
like you're going to play more

637
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,680
of this.
I feel like I'm going to play

638
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,840
more of this, Yes, OK, I accept
the risk of stuff has to get

639
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,000
talked about.
Well, I mean, I, I will just say

640
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,840
that I think that there are some
really strong emotional beats

641
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480
for the player in this game.
Like Lawson was talking about,

642
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,840
like you get the frog costume
and now you understand the

643
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360
little girl, but like, it's a
very tender moment because

644
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,840
you're like, Oh my gosh, like
I'm the only one who this this

645
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,360
seemed like a child with special
needs of some kind.

646
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,320
And I'm connecting with her and
I'm understanding her and like,

647
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,280
that is a feeling I've never
gotten from a game.

648
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,720
It felt and it felt very human
and it's like, this game is so

649
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,880
weird.
How is it hitting so well?

650
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000
I think the big thing is the
game makes you work for those

651
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,560
emotional beats.
You can't just talk to the 8

652
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,200
year old and be like why are you
only talking in ribbits?

653
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,280
Are you like, OK, you have to
put in the work and then

654
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,560
eventually you're like, Oh no,
she's just having trouble

655
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,240
communicating because of what I
think is a literal curse.

656
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Yeah, toys.
Come to toys, come to life in

657
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,120
this house.
That's not magic though, that's

658
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,680
science.
We should watch it.

659
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,120
We're going to spoil something
about the ending.

660
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,720
So sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable

661
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:04,880
for magic.
There you go.

662
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,360
That is not the first time that
there's been that's been said on

663
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,600
this show.
With our thing.

664
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,440
But yeah, I think there's also
just an element of like it

665
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,040
throws enough weird curveballs
that certainly like when I

666
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,200
started going through this and
knew nothing about this and

667
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,040
respect.
Well, this has gotten some new

668
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,960
direct directions I didn't
really expect.

669
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,760
And when I decided like do a,
oh, kind of see what I what else

670
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,400
there is not really knowing how
far I was through it, I decided

671
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,640
to watch not quite a speed run.
It was a one versus one bingo of

672
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:43,400
this where two people play this
and they have a bingo card of

673
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,040
events and or like achievements
and stuff and it's whoever can

674
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,520
get 13 of them.
And.

675
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,280
They're like, well, the the
center space is divorce.

676
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,160
So you have to get the plot
going.

677
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,320
Yeah, fascinating.
When they're like, yeah, so

678
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,160
you'll see that in like 45
minutes.

679
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Wow, that I love creative speed
runs.

680
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960
I I mean that's it's not super
hard to speed run the divorce

681
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,760
conversation because I believe
finding that you have to find

682
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,200
the husbands toy receipt because
he's been buying more toys even

683
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,680
though they already had a fight
because you were purchased.

684
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,720
You know, the little humanoid
robot that need that shoes

685
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,920
through power more than a
washing machine.

686
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,720
Apparently that is the thing.
They're like, hey, yeah, no,

687
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,200
we're having an energy crisis
because of the chibi robos and

688
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,600
because of the giga robos.
And he buys a chibi robo.

689
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,560
Yeah, it's.
Contributing to global warming.

690
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,600
I I What do you think of the
dog?

691
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,800
Because there's a whole subplot.
Mike, did you start doing your

692
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880
military training to attack the
dog?

693
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,880
A.
Little bit.

694
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,040
I mean, first of all, the dog
weirds me out for that 1000 yard

695
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,400
stare.
Yeah, but I also really

696
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,880
appreciate like at her at the
birthday party at the beginning

697
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,280
when he pops up with like a
wrapped bone and the dad is

698
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,680
like, oh, that's neat.
How'd you wrap that bone?

699
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,800
And like, in many contexts,
you'd that would be feel like

700
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,680
one of those like, oh, look what
Santa brought you.

701
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,400
Like I'm playing along with a
thing with this dude.

702
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,800
I think he's the dog hashing up
with a rap rap bone.

703
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,080
And he's like, the heck.
But yeah.

704
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,480
And so I've done a little bit of
the training, which is weird

705
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,280
with the military being like
eggs.

706
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Yeah, they're sentient eggs.
That are all from instead of

707
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,400
little.
Instead of little green army

708
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680
men, they're little orange eggs
for some reason.

709
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Green eggs and man.
Green.

710
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:49,280
There you go.
But, and so I've done a little

711
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,800
bit of that and I appreciate
that like all of them have the

712
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,720
first time that you actually get
the chance to talk to them, like

713
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,320
they all have dialogue, it
repeats a little bit, but it's

714
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,760
surprisingly a large number of
options.

715
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Yeah, there's like 16 of them or
something standing there.

716
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:10,640
There's 19 standing there and
there's probably before I

717
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,680
accidentally triggered the next
bit when I was just going around

718
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,880
and trying to talk to all of
them.

719
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,280
I got there about 15 of them
actually, no, I might have been

720
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,680
closer to like 18 of them.
And then of that, probably about

721
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,640
5 repeated stuff that I'd
already heard, like it was a lot

722
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,880
of variety.
And that's discounted that they

723
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,280
are all just named after
different cities in the US.

724
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,280
Did you think that was going to
be the mini game?

725
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,800
You said you don't want to ruin
the next bit.

726
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Is that what you think the mini
game is today?

727
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,760
No, I wasn't sure.
Oh, OK.

728
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,720
But, and so there was a chunk,
I'm just trying to figure out

729
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:47,320
what's going on with them.
And because the first time you

730
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,920
see them, you don't, they look
very weird.

731
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,520
And then the next time around
it's like a cutscene.

732
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,560
It's like, oh, this is entirely
egg puns.

733
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080
I see what we're doing now.
And so I've done a little bit of

734
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,200
the training with them and I
have found, so basically they

735
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,000
have lost one of their ranks to
the dog.

736
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,280
Yes.
But I've seen that cutscene and

737
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,160
I have found the dog tags.
Yes, Memphis's dog tag the

738
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,040
fallen soldier.
And I am I, I did the first

739
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,040
training, which is the find the
spy and it's the shuffle.

740
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,840
I think I got up to like the 7th
or something.

741
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,160
It's good.
Like it keeps making you do them

742
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880
and it's like, I don't want to
lose on purpose, but I also

743
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,000
don't want to do more than I
have to.

744
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Are you telling me you could do
it's, it's for those who haven't

745
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480
played it, it's like the kind of
cup and ball game where they put

746
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,920
a ball under 3 cups and they
shuffle them around.

747
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,240
You got to guess which one the
ball's under.

748
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,640
That's essentially the gameplay
mechanic.

749
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,720
But Mike, I found it impossible
after like 5.

750
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,120
I was somewhere between 5:00 and
5:00 and 7:00 that I that I had

751
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,680
done and that was my third run
through it maybe.

752
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,240
Interesting.
For me, the mini game that was

753
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,880
the hardest was the spaceship
mini game, which if you haven't

754
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,680
gotten to that, that's
incredibly hard and I could not

755
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,840
find a good way to do it.
I'm on the run the handrail 1

756
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,880
now and I had like one really
good run that almost made it to

757
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,760
the end and now every time I
just fall and then I moved on.

758
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,280
But what Lawson's referring to
is that there are like, unlock

759
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,600
unlockable vehicular missions.
Essentially you can unlock a

760
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,600
spaceship that has like a
shooting mini game or like you

761
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,880
kind of lock these hot rods and
that's where you play chicken.

762
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:30,400
These two cars are like racing
towards the Cliff and you have

763
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,760
to break as close as possible
to, you know, the edge, which I

764
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,440
thought was really thrilling.
The spaceship one Lost is

765
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,800
talking about is that you are
flying like Star Wars A New Hope

766
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,560
in the Trench style, and all
you're doing is timing when to

767
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,760
fire the lasers.
You don't even have to aim them,

768
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,440
it's just a matter of when do
you press that button.

769
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:54,520
So it's like A1 button Star Fox,
but it's very difficult.

770
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,480
And it's so hard.
It's so hard.

771
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,960
And I'm like, I don't know what
you want me to do here, but

772
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,360
considering how many different
mini games there are between

773
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,480
this, the spaceship, the egg
shuffle, the burger flipping,

774
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,120
the game is chock full of little
things to do.

775
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,920
And considering it's, I think
it's sort of analogous to how in

776
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,080
Breath of the Wild Tears, the
Kingdom, you have the Clorox

777
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,280
seeds, which are challenges
littered all over the world that

778
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,960
are pretty simple on the
surface.

779
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,080
But there's just so many of them
that you can really like have a

780
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,560
lot of fun with them.
And I can look at the real 1 and

781
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,880
be like, wow, the people that
made this game really liked

782
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,640
working on this game because
there's a lot of love where

783
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,960
there doesn't need to be.
That is so well, you know,

784
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,080
something awesome.
I see you.

785
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,360
That was so well said.
So I'm I'm jazz.

786
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,720
I'm jazzed that all three of us
are kind of vibing with this

787
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:53,800
game.
Any other joy pros of the game

788
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,440
we haven't touched on?
Something you guys think is

789
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,160
really special?
I'm going to say I feel like it

790
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,480
is more of a puzzle exploration
game that is on platforms than a

791
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,600
platforming game.
Yeah, we were discussing what

792
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,800
the hell genre is this.
It's puzzle, it's platforming,

793
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,520
it's almost RPG.
What would you consider it,

794
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Lawson?
Metrovania.

795
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,200
Yeah, kind.
Of I think it's because there is

796
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,320
platforming there's combat for
some reason there's a bunch of

797
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,920
side quests and a big part of
the game is going back to

798
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,840
different areas after you
already gotten a new item and

799
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,520
then you need to go back through
and see oh hey, I got the shovel

800
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,320
what can I do with the shovel?
And that's the whole game.

801
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040
It's OK, cool, I need to go here
and get this thing, then go back

802
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,680
and do this.
And as you go on, you unlock

803
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,960
shortcuts and fast travel and
all kinds of stuff.

804
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,240
It it feels just like a
Metroidvania.

805
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,280
There's something so satisfying
every so often when you like the

806
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,960
situation where you're like, oh,
I had to do that once and it was

807
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,520
a pain where this took a while,
but at the end it's like, oh,

808
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,440
and I've now done this and now I
don't have to do that ever

809
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,520
again.
Yeah, yeah.

810
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,520
And it's also, you know, you're
constantly getting experience

811
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,520
points that translate into
longer battery life, so you're

812
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,320
able to accomplish more in a
single day.

813
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,400
It almost feels like growing up
kind of you're like, I'm getting

814
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,520
more and more capable and I'm
able to accomplish more and I

815
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,880
don't know, it's just super
cool.

816
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:26,200
So for me, one of the most fun
things about this game are the

817
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,000
sly and not so sly references to
pop culture.

818
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,920
So what I'm going to do is a
mini game minute.

819
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,120
If you guys are down, you want
to play.

820
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Let's do it.
All right, this game is called

821
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,680
and Robo was his name O The way
it work is that I am going to

822
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,840
show you a person, place or
thing from the game and you need

823
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,640
to tell me what it's a parody of
OK.

824
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,120
OK, I'm definitely gonna do well
on this.

825
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,640
OK.
I say interrupt me if you know

826
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
it, and I think that's OK, and
then I'll read it for the rest

827
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,560
for the listener, All right?
Is that OK, Mike?

828
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,400
I would do the reverse of.
It's available as soon as you

829
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,360
finish the question.
Yeah, I, I think it's like a

830
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,800
it's Jeopardy style.
Like you got to, you have to

831
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,360
wait for the person to finish.
OK, that's a better listen.

832
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,840
You know what MM is on your
side, listener.

833
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,040
He's making sure this is nice
for you.

834
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,480
He always does OK.
It's also it's also easier for

835
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,520
the edit.
That's the edit that's killing

836
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,960
him inside.
All right, first one tell me the

837
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,640
real life thing being parodied
by the alarmist and hyperbolic

838
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,320
reporting of Faux News.
Fox News.

839
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,040
Fox News.
OK, that was Lawson by a hair.

840
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,640
OK.
Next one, Mike.

841
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,440
I was going to take a stab that
this is.

842
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,560
Wait, hold on, you want to guess
before I show it?

843
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:50,040
I do want to guess because the
anchor was like broke jaw

844
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,240
instead of Tom Brokaw.
Wow, I lost and he gets a bonus

845
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:56,720
plan for that I didn't even
think about.

846
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,360
That I don't know enough about
Fox News in order to like, have

847
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,840
an opinion on that.
Brokaw wasn't on Fox News, but

848
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,440
he was on News.
So, OK, so Mike got this on 2

849
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,080
levels.
That's amazing.

850
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,760
Is every reference on 2 levels
maybe?

851
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,840
OK, how about this one, The prim
and proper Princess Pitts?

852
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,760
Princess Peach.
OK, there is another one I'll

853
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,880
accept based on the Toy Story
connection.

854
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:24,640
It's the.
Bo Peep.

855
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,360
Yes, yeah, it's totally Bo Peep.
She's effectively for Bo Peep.

856
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,080
OK, Next one, the tech
conglomerate Citrusoft.

857
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,320
Microsoft.
Anna.

858
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Anna, Yeah.
OK.

859
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,120
I feel like Mike should be able
to get the second one if you get

860
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,440
the first one.
I'm giving you both a point.

861
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,600
You guys are doing great, OK.
There we go.

862
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Space Hunter Drake Redcrest.
Captain Falcon.

863
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,760
Or I also think Buzz Lightyear.
I would agree.

864
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,440
OK, this is cool.
This is a little harder now the

865
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,840
transformative kid eggplant.
Get in there, Mike I.

866
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,600
I mean, I was thinking eggplant
wizard from Kid Icarus.

867
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,280
Yep, Yep, he he transforms you
into an eggplant when he sees

868
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,560
you.
I've never played Kid Icarus so

869
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,920
I have no idea.
But there is another Nintendo

870
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,120
game he's from.
I didn't know this till I

871
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040
researched it.
He was also from Wrecking Crew

872
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,760
98.
I didn't know that.

873
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,120
I I I don't like that image.
The one on the bottom, to be

874
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,280
clear.
That one's for Mike.

875
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,880
That's Captain N You never
escape it.

876
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,160
OK, two more.
The hoppy amphibian Fred and

877
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Freda Frog.
What are they references to?

878
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Frogs.
Oh, I've stumped them.

879
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Think candy.
Think British candy.

880
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,320
It would be real.
I think Mike's got it.

881
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,280
The only sweets I eat are
chocolate because chocolate's

882
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,520
just a superior flavor.
You mean like Cadbury you?

883
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,160
Mean like a Fredo Frog Mike with
the Fredo frog.

884
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,440
Did you Google it?
No, I think these are on Cat's

885
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,560
list of things she wants people
to bring her.

886
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,320
OK, listener, hear that?
Bring Cat some freaking Fredo.

887
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,640
All right, last one.
So I'm going to say that if

888
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,840
Lawson gets both of them, he can
have both points.

889
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,800
OK, good little tire because
potential tie.

890
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,960
So last one, the sinister Mr.
Prongs.

891
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Any guess what this is the
reference to?

892
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,640
I don't know, I think it's the
hat man from my dreams.

893
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,920
Oh boy.
Oh, that's why he wants to

894
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,360
record Late Mike.
Any idea?

895
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,600
I don't like how his I don't
like how his nipples are like

896
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:49,680
his eyeballs but just smaller.
This the sinister Speedo like

897
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,520
you win but.
I have no idea on this.

898
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:59,120
This one is either a Devil from
Devil World Reference that's a

899
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,760
Nintendo character, like the
prongs or the horns, but like

900
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,800
same Speedo, same boots or
whatever.

901
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,240
Or Poltergeist because you
summon him by interacting with

902
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,040
the television.
He comes out of the television

903
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,400
sort.
Of like, I never have seen that

904
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,520
man.
Yeah.

905
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,960
And you know what?
I'm glad.

906
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,400
I'm happy about that.
I made good choices.

907
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,280
I.
Presume on the other side of

908
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,760
that is just something else he's
fusion dancing with like

909
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:26,920
electricity.
Like what was that a reference

910
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,520
to?
Great question is that Dragon

911
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Balls does that?
OK.

912
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Or Steven Universe, Hey, leave
in the comment if you know the

913
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:39,280
joke that Mike just made.
Well, so that Mike wins the game

914
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,240
6:00 to 4:00, but that was fun.
I'm also going to contend that

915
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:49,160
the whole game is inspired by
the Flaming Moe's episode of The

916
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Simpsons.
What?

917
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Because there's a line in there.
Simpsons Tangent.

918
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Flaming Moe's is where Homer has
a drink that he's basically

919
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,800
invented, has a cocktail that
you set on fire that most

920
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,400
steals.
Yeah, and and gets great fame

921
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,600
from it.
Yeah, And there's a bit where

922
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,600
Marge is like, shouldn't you
just be glad that, you know,

923
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,760
like, a lot of people are happy
about this?

924
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,440
And he's like, oh, I'm the man
that from Fairy Land because I'm

925
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,080
making people happy.
And then it's like, in case you

926
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,800
didn't realize I was being
sarcastic.

927
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:29,720
And Marge is like, well, duh.
And I've had that line every

928
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:33,720
time I got happiness, like
homers little like bit, which

929
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:36,840
actually is he is dressed very
close to that when he's saying

930
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,840
that, I think.
I think he's in just an

931
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,480
underwear when he says.
That was in my mind for a lot of

932
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,360
this game.
Every time I got happiness.

933
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Well, Mr. Prongs is an
interesting character because he

934
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,280
is a secret character that you
can only you know if you only

935
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,280
interact with if you're trying
to 100% the game.

936
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640
But he is the antithesis of
Chibi Robo.

937
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,120
He is warping around and causing
misery and causing menship,

938
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,440
whereas Chibi Robo is his polar
opposite, sneaking around and

939
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,880
just doing, you know, random
acts of kindness.

940
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,440
So that's Mr. Prong.
So.

941
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:10,720
Does the game ever?
I did see something cuz I was

942
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,720
trying to figure out why things
kept falling on me and I didn't.

943
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520
The, the, the, the bedpan,
whatever they were.

944
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's Mr.
Prong's dropping them on you.

945
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Is is that an official thing?
Cuz I saw that just said this

946
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,880
like the developer says that but
I don't know if the game does

947
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,280
that ever explain it?
I don't know, I didn't.

948
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,360
I never interacted with them.
OK.

949
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,960
But I love though that two of us
beat the game.

950
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,520
One of us is five hours in and
we're all just like, it feels

951
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,760
like a genuine mystery.
And I feel like that adds to

952
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,680
like the layers of like this
house feels so lived in and it

953
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,560
feels like there's just a little
history in every corner of it

954
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,280
and it's so fun to explore.
It's a weird.

955
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,720
And I'll clarify what happens
like every so often when you are

956
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,240
leaving a plug, you just have
something hit you and you get

957
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:54,560
told how many times that's
happened.

958
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,640
And I, there's a bit where I'm
like, oh, is this like my

959
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,720
indication, like I, that's how
I'm supposed to go next?

960
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,840
But I don't think it is.
I think it's the game just like

961
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,880
annoying you a bit.
That's trolling you, I mean.

962
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,440
You can just do that sometimes
and and somewhere you accept it

963
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,400
because everything is kind of
mildly absurd so this might as

964
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,280
well happen.
Yeah, OK.

965
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,200
So that's a good segue.
Might as well happen.

966
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000
It's not a perfect game.
What frustrates you about this

967
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,120
game, Lawson?
I had once I reached a certain

968
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,360
point, I had no idea what to do
next and the game was not

969
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,480
helpful in any way.
And that felt like it was

970
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,280
similar for a lot of the game.
A lot of a lot of the plot lines

971
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,240
that you can progress feel very
arbitrary.

972
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:43,400
And ah yes, well, luckily I
found the dog bone like that was

973
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:49,960
in the kitchen and then I gave
it to a bird who told me to go

974
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,800
screw myself.
And.

975
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,560
Then I and but then then I was
able to unlock this thing and a

976
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,720
lot of the game just sort of
feels arbitrary in that way.

977
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:04,280
Yeah, in a way that I wish was
more authored, but I think it's

978
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,400
still overall works.
It just is like OK cool.

979
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:11,680
I felt bad that as a 30 year old
man I needed to look up a guide

980
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,200
for a video game from 2006.
I think you hit the nail on the

981
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,040
head because I feel like this
game, 2006 was like the sort of

982
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,720
last gasp of the strategy guide
era where you would leave, you

983
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:26,800
would leave GameStop with your
game and your big book, and it

984
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,440
was going to tell you how to get
through it.

985
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,920
And they would design games to
sell those books because it was

986
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,720
this whole other revenue stream.
So that's what this very much

987
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,880
feels like that moon logic at
times because you're like, how

988
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,000
would I have ever guessed that?
So much of the game's thrill

989
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,880
comes from parkouring your way,
your way higher and higher up to

990
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,080
access more and more of each
room because you're doing things

991
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,280
like hopping from shelf to shelf
and you're climbing blinds and

992
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,440
you're balancing precariously on
spinning fans.

993
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,000
But like when you look at the
room, it doesn't really smack

994
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,040
you as like, oh, that's this is
a clear platforming environment.

995
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,840
There's no floating platforms.
It's all very practical.

996
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,760
So the thrill of getting higher
and higher feels authentic.

997
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,960
But I didn't really trust the
controls.

998
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,080
I felt like it was for as many
points as you are inching your

999
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,840
way along this tiny ledge, you
have like half of a foot and the

1000
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,600
slightest slip and you're
falling.

1001
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,760
But then some falls didn't feel
like my fault.

1002
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,160
It felt like the controls were
not responsive enough.

1003
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,840
Would you agree, Lawson?
Oh yeah, it definitely could

1004
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,200
play a lot better.
And there's also some systems

1005
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,600
that are in the game and I just
ask why.

1006
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,840
For example, why is there combat
in Chibi Robo?

1007
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,200
I like the combat.
TB Robo have a gun?

1008
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,800
I like it.
I like it.

1009
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,400
I know, but it's the same thing
every time.

1010
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,160
Yeah.
It's just stale and repetitive.

1011
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,840
Oh, man.
Did you know three tiny enemies

1012
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,920
are gonna show up on screen?
You're gonna go bop, bop, bop,

1013
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,560
and then you're done.
That's.

1014
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,320
That's what happens.
If there had been two things I

1015
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,000
could do in combat instead of
just go bop, bop, bop, I would

1016
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,440
be more interested.
But instead it's just all right,

1017
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,480
cool, walk around bop bop bop
and you're fine.

1018
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,280
It's at most an inconvenience.
I liked it though, because to me

1019
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,400
it's scratching the same itch as
like scrubbing the floor.

1020
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,320
It's like the scrubbing is a
satisfying motion and it's like

1021
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,000
everyone loves the tap, tap,
tack, explode, explosion, pick

1022
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,200
up the little Renchi things.
All three of those little

1023
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:28,320
endorphin hits for me.
So I was never, I was never felt

1024
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,000
like I was supposed to feel like
I was in danger until the last

1025
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,480
boss, which without spoiling it
for Mike, it has a mechanic

1026
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,800
where it grabs you and I don't
know if there's any way to avoid

1027
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,080
it.
And it felt very frustrating.

1028
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,160
You can't avoid it.
You put the mug over your head.

1029
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:48,560
No, you just run away.
OK, I was running as fast as I

1030
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,640
could.
It caught me every time.

1031
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:55,360
Yeah, the fact that the ending
of the game relies on combat,

1032
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,280
which is what I would say the
game's weakest area, because I

1033
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,720
do think you could have some fun
combat.

1034
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,760
Like if you made this game
today, I think you could do, you

1035
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,000
could have a lot of fun.
And then you could also add more

1036
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,400
movement mechanics and stuff.
And I think that could also be

1037
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,000
very good.
Imagine, I imagine a Chibi Robo

1038
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,880
that has some of the movement
options of Super Mario Odyssey

1039
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,880
where you can do like a dive and
then a glide and then a roll.

1040
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,800
And then you can, you know,
cross gaps.

1041
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,440
Or, you know, they made a
platform where you can like use

1042
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,320
your plug as a whip and do cool
stuff with that.

1043
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,160
Hey, that sounds great.
And if you could implement all

1044
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,960
that in combat and exploration,
that'd be super cool.

1045
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,120
That would be dope.
But this is a game from 2006 and

1046
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,520
it is currently, you know, like
20 years later.

1047
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,320
So it's a little unfair
considering how far games have

1048
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,760
come just broadly.
Yeah, but I do think it felt

1049
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,760
very modern in the way of like,
oh, we're going to give you a

1050
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,720
whole bunch of different
gameplay styles.

1051
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,160
It felt almost like Red Dead
Redemptiony, where it's like,

1052
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,560
oh, you, you really fleshed out
this space.

1053
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,720
I would say I actually don't
mind the combat being sort of

1054
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,080
that simple because I did it
more as just like a research

1055
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,680
harvesting thing.
Yeah.

1056
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:14,440
And for me it also meant that
like stuff like the controls

1057
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,320
didn't weigh that down because
it was bad enough to try and do

1058
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,240
the bits of move around in a
smaller platform and the camera

1059
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,960
is not cooperative.
Yeah.

1060
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,840
But where I could take my time,
whereas if I had to do the

1061
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840
rushed, I think it would be a
bit more frustrating.

1062
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,360
OK, this is also totally
unrelated other than the fact

1063
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,960
that for us, we have been
looking at Mr. Prongs for quite

1064
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,680
some time now and he is
beginning to look like Ed

1065
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,400
Bighead from Rocco's Modern Life
to me.

1066
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,240
Wow, deep cut but I I respect
it.

1067
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,520
I see it.
Just with the, the, the the plug

1068
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,000
and the prawns are very much
like it because it was reminding

1069
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,520
me of something.
I think my brains finally

1070
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,120
crystallized the that's what my
brain was thinking about.

1071
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,040
Been haunting you?
Yes.

1072
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,840
Well, so perfect segue, I'd say.
This game, I don't know, it's

1073
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,120
weirdly like kind of thirsty at
times.

1074
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,400
All the toys are romantically
pining for one another, but at

1075
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,040
one point television expresses
distress that Jenny is falling

1076
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,960
for him and she's freaking 8
years old.

1077
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Like, that's weird, right?
I so I think the thing that you

1078
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,360
need to take away is that Telly
is an absolute moron.

1079
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,880
OK, so he doesn't realize that's
just a kid.

1080
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,400
I mean, how old's telly?
I think that telly is the kind

1081
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,760
of person that's like, yeah,
babes love me.

1082
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,280
And it's like, do they?
Right.

1083
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,240
Like oh hey, I know that you
think that you're popular, but

1084
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,360
what are you basing that on
telly?

1085
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,680
Because something to note
listener is that whenever

1086
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,280
anything good happens in the
game, telly is like yay and then

1087
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,120
pops off a couple party poppers.
Which then leave a mess for you

1088
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,120
to clean up I.
Loved it.

1089
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,320
It's, it's hilarious.
I do love that IA he does a

1090
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,680
little celebration and then you
have to clean up after him.

1091
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,400
I just think that Telly's an
idiot personally.

1092
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,040
And I think that it's just like,
yeah, it's the Oh yeah, all the

1093
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,160
ladies love me.
Even even the 8 year old girl is

1094
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,960
thawning for me and it's still
sounded creepy.

1095
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,320
Oh yeah, because Telly sucks.
Telly is a loser.

1096
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Telly Telly's whole thing is
like, yeah, he's the speed wagon

1097
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,360
to Chibi Robo's JoJo.
OK, OK.

1098
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,920
He's the Navy of the game.
Exactly, Most heinous thing is

1099
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,640
that you have this whole game
revolve around tidying and

1100
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,280
cleaning up after yourself and
make it, or I guess not

1101
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,120
yourself, other people.
But then you have a story event

1102
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,280
that permanently adds dead dried
petals to the floor, which you

1103
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,520
cannot clean.
This, this itched.

1104
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,680
I did not like this.
This felt wrong.

1105
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,680
Let me clean that dead flower.
Dang it.

1106
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,080
That's the whole point of this
game.

1107
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,440
I want the room to look nice.
Am I insane you guys?

1108
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,200
You're not.
However, I do think this is a

1109
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,720
point in favor of magic is Real
because the mummy canonically

1110
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,280
drains the life from anything he
touches.

1111
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Wow, he touches those flowers
and they die instantly.

1112
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,640
You're right.
Yeah, You see that?

1113
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,320
Magic is real.
The girl was cursed with frog

1114
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,040
magic and I don't know how or
why because that's never

1115
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,280
explained.
That is an amazing sentence out

1116
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,920
of context.
Yeah, and I do like that this

1117
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,480
game has a lot of mysteries that
just don't explain to you.

1118
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,960
And personally, I think that
that's a very good thing.

1119
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,920
Mysteries existing in the world,
like let the audience fill in

1120
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,200
those gaps in a way that's
really satisfying.

1121
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,960
It's why some people still care
about Harry Potter, because JK

1122
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,480
Rowling is such a bad writer.
She didn't write an actual

1123
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,400
world.
She sort of wrote like a stage

1124
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,920
for stuff to be on and the
everything else going on

1125
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,840
completely up to her
interpretation.

1126
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,600
Like do Wizards need to eat?
We don't know.

1127
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Do does frog magic exist in
Chibi Robo?

1128
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,520
We don't know.
I feel like those books are well

1129
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:22,320
written, but I don't like saying
that because you all know why.

1130
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,800
OK, so anything else?
Any other bones to pick with our

1131
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,600
little Chibo here?
Any other joy cons?

1132
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,640
I wish there was a Sprint
button.

1133
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,560
I wish there was a Sprint
button.

1134
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,800
I sometimes I just want to like,
I'm like, I could go.

1135
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,960
I know I need to go, just let me
go there faster.

1136
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,360
I taught Mike to pick up the
plug to move faster because that

1137
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,840
took me way too long.
OK.

1138
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,040
But it's like a 5% increase.
I do like the extent that some

1139
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,880
of the stuff was that this did a
lot of we're not necessarily

1140
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,800
going to spell things out
explicitly, we're going to make

1141
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:04,280
it clear, but in a way that I
thought kind of flowed into the

1142
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,840
storytelling.
So like early example when you

1143
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,840
first see all the soldiers
training in another room and it

1144
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,720
you get shot at a lot and then
have to get back out of there

1145
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,080
cuz it's like well I am not
ready to deal with this.

1146
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,600
Yeah.
But you see them doing like

1147
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,880
various training things and one
of them is one of them hiding in

1148
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,520
a mug to deflect shots.
Oh, it's teaching you if you pay

1149
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,640
attention.
Yeah.

1150
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,120
And so it's like, OK, I'm gonna
need that.

1151
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,160
And then later on, there's
another mention about a cop.

1152
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,920
It's like, OK, I I think it's
what, what's his name?

1153
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,360
Buzz Lightyear.
Drake Redcrest.

1154
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,080
Makes a mention of like, oh,
yeah, I bet you want that mug.

1155
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,520
And it's like, OK, he's got a
mug somewhere.

1156
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,880
I don't know how I get it yet,
but it's like, I want that mug.

1157
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,000
And I enjoyed it where it didn't
just go, hey, you'll need a mug

1158
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,240
to cross this room.
Yeah, but it put all the pieces

1159
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,920
pretty clearly out there.
Just go, oh, yeah, this all

1160
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,840
flows now.
I need to find where the heck it

1161
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,880
is.
And then you find it and the

1162
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,320
wife's like, that's my
husband's.

1163
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,800
Take it.
I don't want any of this stuff

1164
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,160
anymore.
And every little item

1165
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,360
interaction is micro
storytelling.

1166
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,800
And it's just like this is this
is neat, Yeah.

1167
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,000
I mean it's things like you can
feed the you can throw away the

1168
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,520
trash and get happiness, but if
you have the crumb, the cookie

1169
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,080
crumbs.
Yeah, you can feed the fish.

1170
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,040
Yeah.
And I think I did.

1171
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,560
I did that just with like, oh,
you can feed the fish and I

1172
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,760
picked up cookie crumbs from
somewhere else.

1173
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,240
So I think there was a dialogue
bid that mentions that.

1174
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:37,320
Yeah, but I had fed them first
and the fact that you get a lot

1175
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,800
of happiness for doing it once
and then like no happiness after

1176
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,120
that.
But like Lawson said, it's it's

1177
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,320
teaching the little kids don't
overfeed the fish.

1178
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,320
Cookie crumbs are a sometimes
food.

1179
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,080
I just realized which game I
wish this was.

1180
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:55,760
I wish it was Psychonauts.
Well, because in Psychonauts,

1181
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,960
right, you do get various power
ups and you get various things

1182
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,640
and then you can reuse them in
different ways over time.

1183
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,480
You get the mug, you get the mug
equipment, and then you use it

1184
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,360
just for that, and then you
don't really use the mug ever

1185
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,920
again.
I see what you're saying.

1186
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,520
I wish it was like Psychonauts
where you had to reuse the mug

1187
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,920
in other situations to different
effects.

1188
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,600
Sold.
I was I was unhappy with debris

1189
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:24,560
or I felt it was unclean.
The reuse of the shovel slash

1190
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,960
spoon.
What do you mean?

1191
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,760
I had dug with that that spoon.
Oh, and then you're making

1192
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,840
burgers.
And or or lending it to the mom.

1193
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,440
Oh, that's right.
To, like, stir Jimmy Romo, you

1194
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,360
gross a monster.
Like I do appreciate where it's

1195
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,520
like to do all the cleaning.
You're using the dad's

1196
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,640
toothbrush because you found it
sitting around actually on the

1197
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,920
same sort of incentivizing the
fact that when you you reach the

1198
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,640
chippy robo manual in the game
and you get happiness for each

1199
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,440
page you read.
Yes, and you and you can only

1200
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,240
read 1 a day or something.
I went through all of them in

1201
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,680
one go, but it's like you.
But you do.

1202
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,000
As you read through them, you
get happiness.

1203
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,320
So it's actually basically like,
yeah, we have to tell you some

1204
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,520
junk.
We are going to reward you for

1205
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,840
it because you should be doing
this.

1206
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,240
RTFM.
This game is very good about,

1207
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,640
you know, rewarding the player
for doing things.

1208
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,680
So you haven't, you have a
reason to go and engage with all

1209
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,480
the mechanics and explore.
And I do really like that.

1210
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,640
Yeah, so guys, I think that
brings us to the moment of

1211
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,120
truth.
For today, we've covered the joy

1212
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,720
pros, the joy cons and every bit
in between.

1213
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,400
So it's time to declare today's
game as a Nintendo or a

1214
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,800
Nintendo.
Don't.

1215
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:41,160
Lawson, will you kick us off?
I think that the con section

1216
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,400
tells you everything you need to
know, which is even when we're

1217
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,680
supposed to criticize the game,
we kept being like, man, I

1218
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,040
really loved this.
We could not help ourselves but

1219
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,800
still be like, man, this was a
really good thing.

1220
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,040
I just wish it was this.
I think if you're going to be

1221
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,240
playing old games, this game has
a lot that's on the table and

1222
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,160
you should play it.
And then you can see other, you

1223
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,680
can compare that, compare it to
other games, and you'll be like,

1224
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,440
wow, this is a pretty good game.
OK, so we should play it.

1225
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,360
So you're saying Nintendo?
Yes.

1226
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,360
Do you want to add a little
garnish when a Super Nintendo

1227
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,920
Nintendo 64 something?
It's not, it's not in my top ten

1228
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,800
of all time, I think.
I think it's a great game.

1229
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,520
I don't think it's in my top ten
of all time because overall just

1230
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,640
the issues and lack of
signposting mean that it's

1231
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,800
unless you look up a guide, I
would bet you could not finish

1232
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,400
the game, or at least the
average person could not finish

1233
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,760
the game without a guide.
OK.

1234
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,240
You, Jeremy, you've beaten the
game as well.

1235
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,400
You know how you know that
ending?

1236
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,480
Yes.
You know, all those random

1237
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,640
steps, yeah, there's no way like
a regular person is going to

1238
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,200
think to do all of that and that
were.

1239
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,000
Lawson, I see you OK, and I
agree with you and I want you to

1240
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,000
know that I wrote out a seven
step solution to a puzzle.

1241
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:03,840
None of the steps make any
sense.

1242
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,960
None of them are logical.
That's how far removed it is

1243
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,960
from logic.
So I agree, I don't think it's a

1244
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,120
Nintendo 64, but you are clear
Nintendo.

1245
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,920
I want to know where Mike is
before I give my placement.

1246
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,840
So.
Our previous episode with

1247
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,080
Majora's Mask, I basically it
said that I enjoyed what that

1248
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,479
was doing with the storytelling
parts, but I kept getting, I

1249
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,560
kept having all this like
annoying platforming getting my

1250
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,200
way or time management where it
would just wipe the whole slate

1251
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,720
of what I had done and it didn't
really allow for chipping away

1252
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,000
at things.
Is this exactly the game you

1253
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,240
wished for last time?
This is basically it.

1254
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,920
I was going through this.
I'm like, this is everything

1255
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,240
that I all the things that
annoyed me about that where it's

1256
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,399
I'm no longer There's a time
cycle that is necessary for the

1257
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,960
story flow, but I don't have
this ticking clock.

1258
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,920
I get to spend more time with
the story elements of it.

1259
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,319
I'm not being weighed down by as
much platforming that was

1260
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,399
annoying me or combat that I
wasn't always thrilled with.

1261
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,720
And because it's kind of just
the stories, at least as I've

1262
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,319
seen, just kind of move along to
you've done something, it'll

1263
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:11,720
move to the next point until you
do the next point.

1264
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,080
You're not stuck in this, well,
I have to do this on the

1265
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,479
second-half of day one or else
day three is in the wrong spot.

1266
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,399
And I don't know that.
So it allowed this to flow for

1267
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:25,399
the more on the it's the
puzzling and the exploring

1268
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:28,880
that's going on and the
narrative without the bits that

1269
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,800
I didn't like.
So it's definitely a Nintendo

1270
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,920
for me, which is why I played
like a couple hours of it.

1271
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,000
I set out to play like 2 hours
of it and played four and A.

1272
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,600
Half.
And expect to go back because it

1273
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,760
moves along this pace that
allows me to, even if I'm not

1274
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,640
getting something immediately, I
feel like I'm still able to sort

1275
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,160
of grind away and progression
and it has something click and

1276
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,920
go, oh, that's what I need to do
now I'm on to the next bit.

1277
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,200
That's awesome.
Well, it's a sweep.

1278
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,760
I mean, this is a Super Nintendo
for me.

1279
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:05,160
I just feel like this game is
very underrated.

1280
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,720
I think it is Animal Crossing,
but better.

1281
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,240
I don't know.
I think it's it's kind of much

1282
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,320
yours mask, but burner.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Derek re

1283
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,000
re.
But listen, we're going to have

1284
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,800
this out in the discord.
We're going to have to vote on

1285
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,880
this bad boy.
But here's the rule, though, you

1286
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,040
got to try chibi robo.
You can't just vote for Zelda.

1287
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,720
OK, I'm thinking about a few of
our listeners in particular who

1288
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,120
are die hard loyalists.
Zelda Zelda's really good, but

1289
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,520
sometimes the new thing can also
be good there.

1290
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,280
We go.
There we go.

1291
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,640
And I think it's also
fascinating because if you look

1292
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,760
up at people talking about this
game that we're trying this, say

1293
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,840
a year ago, I think at some
point this game cost like $200.

1294
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, On GameCube.

1295
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,440
If you want to get a legitimate
copy, hard copy, then yes you

1296
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:01,120
will need to pay $200 minimum
because this game was not a huge

1297
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,440
commercial success, which is why
the last game in the series came

1298
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:10,400
out and I believe 2015.
OK, listen, Nintendo, I need you

1299
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,120
to lean in.
Nintendo, you guys buzz off for

1300
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,520
a second.
I got to talk to just Nintendo.

1301
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,000
I'm going to give you such a
good no, don't leave us and

1302
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,080
don't leave.
Am I crazy or should Nintendo

1303
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,040
Classics have an online feature
where when you boot up a game it

1304
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,440
tells you the cost of the retro
game?

1305
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,600
So you know like I'm playing a
$280 game right now, this is

1306
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,400
cool and I didn't pay anything
except for a monthly

1307
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,160
subscription right?
And wouldn't that be interesting

1308
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,200
for discussion because like when
a game goes up in value you

1309
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,920
could be like oh try it I want
to try the most expensive rarest

1310
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,520
games am I on to something?
I think that that's a very good

1311
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,600
marketing pitch, OK.
Because then you could say, oh,

1312
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,440
hey, if you wanted to buy a hard
copy of every game in this

1313
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,760
catalog, it would cost you blank
$1000.

1314
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,960
Exactly.
But you can get it for a blank.

1315
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,520
Yeah, it's like 30 bucks a year.
Actually, this reminds me of an

1316
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,800
interesting bit when you get
into these price things in the

1317
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,040
manual, because I don't think I
had seen this before in a

1318
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,440
manual.
This game's manual has a

1319
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:19,240
specific page of Nintendo
explaining that backup or

1320
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:26,080
archive copies are not
legitimate things to make, which

1321
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:32,480
is specifically the explanation
many people have with emulations

1322
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,560
and where it's like, I have
this, I own the physical game,

1323
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,640
but this is allowing me to
continue to play it.

1324
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,840
And Nintendo had a whole bit
specifically addressing that.

1325
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,800
I'm like, I have never seen any
of them address.

1326
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,360
You're not allowed to make a
copy for your own use.

1327
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,640
That's not how this works.
Wow, And And you think that

1328
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,240
contributed to the game's
rareness?

1329
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,360
I don't think it contributed to
the game's rareness, but it is

1330
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,640
interesting because that is
where you're kind of left to

1331
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,760
now.
Up until this is, what were your

1332
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,880
options?
It was either buy a $200.20 year

1333
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,920
old game or a non legal copy of
the game.

1334
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,760
And really, I think This is why
they should expand this service

1335
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,560
is you have games like this,
we're just like at that price

1336
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,600
somewhat.
For someone to check this out

1337
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:24,560
required either a lot of money
or the sorts of actions that

1338
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,040
Nintendo doesn't want anyone
doing.

1339
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're such shills.

1340
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,440
Listen to us.
I mean, yeah, a little bit, a

1341
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:32,160
little bit I.
Don't.

1342
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,840
I don't think it's being a shill
to say if you would like people

1343
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:40,680
to not pirate your games, make
them available at a low cost and

1344
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,600
many people will be happy with
that.

1345
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,480
Yes, if you want people to not
pirate, you have to at least

1346
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:49,840
give them the alternative of
getting it legally.

1347
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,200
Yeah, because it's sort of like
with Netflix and streaming

1348
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,240
services.
Hey, pirating went way, way down

1349
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,400
when Netflix was like 8 bucks a
month because they could go and

1350
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,280
watch whatever they wanted for 8
bucks a month.

1351
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,240
Now where every streaming
service cost $25.00 a month and

1352
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:14,040
everyone's catalog changes every
three Tuesdays, Like yeah,

1353
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,480
people are going back to
pirating because trying to find

1354
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:20,920
stuff is hard.
Make it easy and then capitalism

1355
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,600
will take care of the rest.
They'll just use the easier

1356
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,000
option.
And it's a good example of them

1357
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,360
taking a game that this was not
exactly one that the people were

1358
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,000
clamoring for.
Yeah, like the other, some of

1359
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,720
the other games, you know, to my
understanding, a lot of people

1360
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,840
like Win Waker.
Yes.

1361
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,880
So that showing up like, yeah,
people were like, please give us

1362
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,320
that.
This is a good example of this

1363
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:47,440
is a game that deserves a shot.
And there wasn't really a You'd

1364
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:51,960
have to be kind of going in
blind for $200, which is a

1365
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,240
ridiculous expectation.
Yep.

1366
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,920
And part of why this game was so
rare, I think to begin with, was

1367
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,400
because it's very hard to sell
children on the idea of, all

1368
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,200
right, cool, there's this game
and you play as a robot and you

1369
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,160
do chores.
And you clean up and you scrub

1370
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,360
and you're nice to your mom.
Yeah.

1371
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,440
And you do all this cool stuff
and you help out the family.

1372
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,520
I like it.
Yeah.

1373
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,800
I I that doesn't really, I don't
think that's going to sell to a

1374
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,920
7 year old.
Yeah, that's a long road.

1375
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,000
I hope so.
I think guys, with that, we're

1376
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,560
going to call it game over for
today.

1377
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,560
The final score for Chibi Robo
Plug into Adventure is a

1378
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,880
resounding Nintendo.
Lawson, thank you for welcoming

1379
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,840
Mike on to your show and earning
those happy points with us here

1380
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,160
tonight.
Before we go, why don't you

1381
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,080
remind our listeners where they
can find a super wall jump and

1382
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,160
anything else you'd like to
plug?

1383
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:45,480
Hi, well you can find my podcast
at Superwall jump basically

1384
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,720
everywhere, Spotify, YouTube,
etcetera.

1385
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:49,720
And you know what else you can
do?

1386
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,840
I by the time this episode comes
out, will have started another

1387
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,320
YouTube channel called Two-story
Entertainment with my wife.

1388
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,720
And we are going to be making a
movie at some point in 2026.

1389
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:05,960
So check it out, follow along
and help help us make our

1390
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,920
filmmaking dreams come true
maybe.

1391
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,320
Or at the very least, you know,
see if the comedy sketches and

1392
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:13,840
stuff we're going to post tickle
your fancy.

1393
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,720
But yeah, Super Bowl Jump for
gaming stuff, Two star

1394
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,640
Entertainment for like cool
narrative stuff, and otherwise

1395
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,880
tell people to hire me to be in
their movie, TV show or podcast.

1396
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,080
Awesome.
I need money to live.

1397
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,760
He needs the money to live,
guys.

1398
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,320
He's got to get some sandwiches.
So we will leave his information

1399
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,080
in the show notes, right, Mike?
Yes.

1400
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,560
And personally, I think that all
sounded Northeast excellent.

1401
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,080
Everyone join us next time.
We'll be tackling one of the

1402
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:46,080
most celebrated retro sports
games ever made, Tecmo Bowl for

1403
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,440
the NES.
Also, don't forget to visit

1404
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,960
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1405
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,840
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1406
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,800
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1407
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,880
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1408
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,960
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1409
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,760
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Until next time, this has been

1410
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,440
the old Switcharoo where we've
been talking gaming retro with

1411
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:13,280
Mike and Jamo.
I've been Mike.

1412
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,200
And I've been Jamo game on.
It I've been Lawson.

1413
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:18,840
And even Lawson and we'll all
game on.

1414
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,000
I should have asked it at the
top, but I didn't think about it

1415
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,080
because I was too busy talking
about the giraffe.

1416
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,840
Yes, and viewer.
If they make a tick tock about

1417
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,800
this, it's right here.
It's 6 feet tall.

1418
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,160
There's also a weird funky lamp
next to it.

1419
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,280
It's great.
Say that a little breathier so

1420
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,120
we can like, hey.
Guys, check out my cool 6 foot

1421
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,320
tall giraffe.
He's talking about an actual

1422
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,960
lamp.
Everyone relax.

1423
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,200
I like it.
It's like, what if NPR did porn?

1424
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,560
OK, Mike, this can't be the
postponed scene.