S3E16: 16th-bit Retro-Spective Season 3 Finale

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I don't know where my Genesis
could be.

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I haven't seen my Super Nintendo
since 2003.

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That's all right.
I don't mind.

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I've got a switch in the old
switch room.

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My friend Mike.
And.

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Jamo too.
All right everyone, welcome back

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to the old Switcheroo where
we're talking gaming retro with

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Mike and Jamo.
I'm Mike.

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And I'm Jamo today we're
highlighting the superstars and

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Nintendo duds of all 30 games
from the last 15 episodes and

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what we are calling our 16th bit
retrospective season finale.

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If you like what you hear or
just want to support a couple of

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guys in the STEM and teaching
fields, give that like and

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subscribe button a little tap
right now.

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It would mean a lot to us, Mike.
Season 3 was a big season for us

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and I know we crossed a few
things off your bucket list.

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How's it feel to be at the
finish line of Season 3?

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It is always good to be at the
end of the season.

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As fun as this is, it's nice to
have a little bit of a break.

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Yeah, we work hard on this show
and I hope you guys appreciate

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it and we definitely appreciate
you listening and you

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participating.
Our community just kind of

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continues to swell, but it's
like a good swelling.

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It's not like an itchy swelling.
So thanks to our our wonderful

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guest from Season 3, we are so
excited to treat our listeners

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to a return of one of our most
popular segments, a secret Mike

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no longer has to keep.
Guest hosts trivia showdown all

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about the games from Season 3.
Mike, would you like to

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introduce our, as you so
eloquently put it, guest, guest

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hosts host?
Yes, so my wife Cat is making

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her return appearance as the
host of this.

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Yay.
I get to be your Adriana.

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Wait, no, that's an Australian
reference.

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By the white.
Go with the Australian

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reference, maybe that'll help us
break into that country better.

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Yeah, we could use the
Australian audience.

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What?
What game show was she on?

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Cat.
Wheel of Fortune.

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Oh, about Australian Wheel of
fortune.

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Yeah, she did the number.
She did the letters for Wheel of

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Fortune.
And it's it's weird because

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Australian Wheel of Fortune,
like half the words end in O.

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And I imagine the wheel turns
the other direction, right?

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Isn't that how that works?
Yeah, Coriolis effect, Yes, more

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than just doing this, this also
means Cat has been keeping track

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of.
So what this is is questions

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from many of our guests from
this season.

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And as I pointed out when I
surprise brought her on last

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time, if I was checking to make
sure files were fine, that would

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probably not be fair.
So Cat has gone through and made

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sure that we've got everything
we need, we need and done bits

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of the checking, but I can't.
Which means Cat knows what we're

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about to hear, which last time
had a lot of fun surprises.

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So I was going to ask her how
much she likes knowing what's

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going to happen for like a week
before I do.

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This is fun and awesome and I
get to be a little bit evil.

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Well, you are awesome cat for
doing this.

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You know, they say behind every
great man is a good woman, and

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it's also true for Mike.
So thank you and I am excited to

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play this game again.
I I'm going to Mike.

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I'm going to beat you this year.
You, you.

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You crushed me pretty solidly
last year.

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I have my scorecard.
All right, I'm ready.

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OK, so let's jump straight in
here and here is our first clip.

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Hi guys, it's Rivi yells from
Twitch.

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I loved playing Links Awakening
with you guys this season and we

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discussed the enemies quite a
bit.

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Which of these enemies most
resembles a mushroom?

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Is it A the dark nut, B the
tektite, C the Octa rock, or D

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the bomber?
Yay RiRi.

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Question.
It didn't.

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It didn't feel right last time
to not have her in there.

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So who guesses first?
So we'll do the same thing we

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did last time, which was
alternating.

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I will go first because I don't
feel confident on this one and

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that seems like a fairway.
To start this off.

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I am going to say D the bobber,
yeah.

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OK I was leaning towards D as
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picture mushroom shaped.
I know Lynx Awakening was the

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one with the Mario references so
I was expecting Goomba to be one

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of the choices so when it wasn't
I was a bit thrown off.

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Dark Nut, Tektite, Octa Rock or
Bobber.

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You know I don't want to start
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say I guess it could still be a
tie.

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If we're both wrong, I'm going
to guess it is the Dark Nut.

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Well, letter was that.
A that was.

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The other one I was considering
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were Tektite and Octa Rock and
Octa Rock is an octopus and

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Tektite is I think spider like
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like a tektite, which are these
like it's a rock that come off

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of meteor impacts.
Yeah, I remember you talking

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about that with like, I think
the first Zelda app was that we

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did together with RiRi.
Yeah.

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All right, So yeah, I'm going A,
Mike's going D.

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And here is the answer.
The answer was D the bomber.

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Hope you guys are having fun.
Did she say bomber?

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Because I swear, the question
said.

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Bobber I thought it was bomber
the first time.

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I wouldn't have gotten it right
either way.

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OK, well well done Mike.
And such a fun episode.

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What a way to kick off Season 3,
right?

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Yeah, I always enjoy having her
back as our Zelda.

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Consultant.
She's just a good time.

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Thank you.
Rhode Island, Rhode.

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Island.
All right, let's jump into our

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next question.
Hey Mike and Jamo, it's Derek

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Mcduff from the underrated movie
podcast.

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We played the Legend of Zelda
Links Awakening.

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There's a mini game in that game
where you can play a claw

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machine called the trendy game
and if you have Marin with you

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when you do it, she will
actually play the game.

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My question for you is if Marin
plays the game, what item does

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she grab?
Is it a hearts B magic powder C

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the Yoshi doll provided still
available?

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If not, she will grab ₹30 or D.
Does she skip all of the items

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and instead grab the NPC that is
the shopkeeper of the game?

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I am going to go with D, the
shopkeeper.

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Both that and the second to last
one both feel tempting because

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neither of those are
run-of-the-mill.

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Just like another thing it could
be.

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I'm gonna guess C.
The Yoshi doll provided is still

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available, otherwise you get
₹30.

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Yeah, I'm picking the one with a
flow chart.

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All right, let's see.
Sorry you, Mike.

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Yeah, that's just his brain.
It's amazing.

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All right, here's the answer.
And of course the answer is D

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Marin foregoes all the items and
reaches over and grabs the

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shopkeeper, which causes a
pretty great scene where the

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shopkeeper kicks Lincoln Marin
out and they kind of run out

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together giggling.
It's a very nice moment between

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these characters and one of the
many reasons that Marin is one

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of my favorite NPCS in any Zelda
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Hope you guys got this one.
Reminded me of how fun that

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episode was to record with you
guys.

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Congrats once again on a great
season.

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Looking forward to the next one.
Have a good one guys.

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Oh, Derek, you are such a good
egg.

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I I remember how badly you
wanted to be on this episode.

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And that means so much to me
that like you believe in the

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show and enjoy it that much that
it was important.

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And it's just important to me
that you just keep coming back.

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And thank you for having Mike
and I and Rhode Island, Rhode

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Island on your podcasts.
It just warms my heart to see

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both of our little communities
grow together.

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Yeah, they've done 2 episodes
together now I believe.

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Yeah, they did.
Ace Attorney and Boxtrolls.

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Which I still need to watch Ace
Attorney, but I watched

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Boxtrolls to watch that episode
or listen to that episode

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rather.
Yeah, that's the one I fell

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asleep in.
And Derek was like, Rebe's going

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to be pissed and she was.
But anyway, I'm sure I deserve

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it.
All right, So I, I tie game,

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yes.
OK, so next question jumps into

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the next episode.
Hey, I'm Kyle and I'm Sarah, and

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we were on the Mario Party
episode and I have a question

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for everyone.
On the original Japanese version

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of Mario Party, what sound did
Wario make that was in the

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Japanese version but was
considered too much for the

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American version?
They had to change it.

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Number 10, Number 2B.
Oh my God #3 no way.

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And #4 Mamma Mia, I think.
Incredible.

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I really hope the AI turns Kyle
going into a TikTok.

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All right, so Mike, guess this
first.

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Yeah.
I I feel like it's going to

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have.
I know what you're thinking and

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I'm thinking the same thing.
I think I'm guessing a.

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Oh, the O.
Yeah.

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Interesting, that is not what I
was thinking.

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I'm going to guess C Oh my God,
because I feel like that fits in

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with what we've learned of
Nintendo trying to take religion

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out of games.
That was B.

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Are you sure?
I thought C was no way because I

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thought it was oh Oh my God, no
way, Mamma Mia.

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Do you need me to replay the
question so you can?

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I'll trust him.
I'll trust him.

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OK, so it was A&B, right?
Yeah, OK.

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And here is the answer.
And the answer is, Oh my God,

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considered too controversial for
America.

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Hope you get it right.
I didn't think it would be

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English.
Well, I mean, I even if it was

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Oh my gosh or God or whatever in
Japanese, I imagine, you know,

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they, they wouldn't want people
to translate it.

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Yeah, Fairpoint.
Yeah, Oh yeah.

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Pulling ahead, Kyle and Sarah
and my wife Jackie on our Mario

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Party episode.
So much fun that that episode

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will always hold a special place
in my heart because when they

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came over to drink some
brewskies and have some pizza

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and play Mario Party on the
couch, I was having a very rough

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week and it just warmed my
heart.

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And so if anyone is listening
and you've had a rough day or a

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rough week, if in any small way
you know, we're providing half

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the joy that those people gave
me that night, then this is all

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worth it.
So anyway, I'm getting

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sentimental.
I'm gonna turn 40 soon.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna take that
point and pull into the lead.

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All right.
And on to the next question.

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Hi Mike and Gemma, this is
Crystal Fields.

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Thanks again for having me on
the show this season My question

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is about my favorite thing,
which is love.

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Sam Saran is not always lucky in
love, even though she.

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Is smart and athletic and
beautiful.

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Who is her one confirmed love
interest?

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Is it Adam Malkovich, Castor
Dane, Kevin and Keen or Princess

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Lana?
Let me know what you think.

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Princess Lana is tempting for
the click bait alone but I guess

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1st and I will be guessing a
Adam.

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Kevin Keane sounds familiar from
something.

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He does, doesn't it?
And Princess Lana, if nothing

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else, is the Princess from
Captain NI Believe.

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Well, does that hurt the case
for her or help the case for

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her?
I feel like I would remember if

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that had happened on Captain N.
Not aired often.

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Yeah.
So I am going to go with B

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because that was like cast or
something and that is a space

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name thing.
It's a dope name.

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It's one of the stars in Gemini.
Neat.

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All right, here is the answer.
Mike, I think you're going to

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like this one.
The answer is Kevin N Keene, the

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Game Master from Captain N the
Game Master, not from the.

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Cartoon series No No from the
short lived comic book series of

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the same name.
Samus sees Kevin.

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Gets a little jealous over his
relationship with Princess.

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Lana and in the end asks him to
run away.

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With her, which I don't.
Think he does, but who knows

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what happens when the comic is
over.

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All right, thanks guys.
I hope you have a wonderful next

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season.
See you then.

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Dang it, you were going off
about Kevin.

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Keane Yeah.
It's like, I know this sounds

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familiar.
I know that the other ones is

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Captain NI did not think about
the comics.

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Wow so I was thrown off by that
one because leave a comment if

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you can confirm this.
I swear in the games she had a

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romantic interest I think, and
Nick would know because he's a

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big fan of the game Other M.
I thought her love interest and

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Other M became the supercomputer
called Adam in Metroid Dread.

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But maybe it was a different
Atom and it was spelled

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differently or something.
But anyway, Mike, you have to

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love that Captain N shout out.
Yes, yes I do.

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And you know, Crystal really the
the ambassador of our show, the

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first thing people hear when
they boot up an episode.

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You know, thanks again for
letting us use that amazing

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theme song.
It will outlive us all and it

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was a great episode having you
and Nick.

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All right, let's jump into the
next question.

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Mike and Jamo, the old
switcheroo.

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I hope that you'll have me back.
I'm missing you.

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I'm sure we could find
something.

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Maybe a kicks mission too.
I promise I won't just talk

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about piss and poo.
I got stuff to say.

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Maybe I'll ask a good question.
Maybe that question will have a

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good lesson.
Or more likely, I'll just talk

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about wrestling.
Ah Nah, I'm just messing.

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Anyway, here's my question.
Which Samus Power suit upgrade

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was created as an inventive way
to overcome game system

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limitations?
A the wave beam, B the morph

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ball, C the spring ball, or D
the screw attack?

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I need to remember those options
again.

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There's Wave Beam, morph ball,
screw attack, and there was

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something in between the two.
Spring ball, I spring ball.

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Spring ball.
That's why I didn't write down

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fast enough.
Wave beam, morph ball, spring

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ball, screw attack I have.
Such little idea.

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I think all of these in all
parts of the game that I didn't

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get far enough into.
I am going to go with the morph

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ball because I think that's a
thing and I hope it's the right

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thing.
I will also be agreeing with you

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because my, SO the morph ball is
just, if I remember correctly,

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just when you press the down
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power up you get.
So you got that at least.

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But in my head, it's like if
they wanted her to crawl through

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small spaces and that took a lot
of animation and replacing her

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with a single ball that doesn't
have to be animated

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individually, you know, limbs
and whatnot, I could see that

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saving time and resources.
So I will be agreeing with you

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morph ball.
All right, here's the answer.

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B the morph ball, the Maru Mari,
really really quick lesson on

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how that came to be.
They were trying to figure out a

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way to make Samus crawl.
Just 8 bits to play with.

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It wasn't working at all.
So they came up with the morph

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ball and look, it became iconic.
I even see how it could be the

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genesis of Sonic.
Really though, Mike and Jamo,

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thank you for having me on.
Y'all are freaking awesome and

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your show's the freaking bomb.
Wow, I have, I have goosebumps.

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We have to set that to a beat
and share this with the universe

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that was so I could even see it
being the genesis of Sonic.

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Are you competing with Crystal
for clever puns on the show that

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is?
Oh, Nick, Nick.

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Wow.
Nick.

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I, I, I, I love the episode that
you did, but I might have loved

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that last two minutes even more.
You stunned Mike.

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You stunned him.
He's got no words.

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You really see why Cat enjoys
knowing that this stuff's coming

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when we don't.
So good, so good.

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Thank you, Nick.
So this is part of my fun is I

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get to share your reactions.
On to the next question here.

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Do I get a bonus point for
calling?

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Exactly why it's was the answer.
No, Dang it all.

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Right, here we go guys.
Nope.

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Nope.
Nope.

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Nope.
Nope.

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Nope.
Nope.

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None of that, none of that.
That song is copy written to

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hell and back, and I do not want
to piss off the algorithm

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anyway.
Much better.

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Greetings Mike and Jamo, this is
War Boss 5, and I'm here to help

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you celebrate your third year
anniversary without further ado.

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My question, Fantasy *4 had some
serious anime energy, what with

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a bunch of young people setting
out to kill God, but how young

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were they?
More specifically, who was the

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youngest party member in the
game?

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Is it A Chaz, the hunter
apprentice, B Han, the magical

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college student, C Rica the
bioconstruct, or D Griz the

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Matavian soldier?
For bonus points, tell me why I

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picked the music at the start of
my question, beyond an attempt

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to savage the show with
copyright claims, of course.

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It's too good.
It's too good.

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My answer is going to be C Rica.
I think that's where I'm going

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as well because that's as a
construct that can mean built

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very recently.
Right.

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It makes sense lore wise.
And then so I'm like I'm a she's

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a robot.
So she's either interestingly

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old, like thousands of years old
or she's like 3 days old or

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something.
But like I, I do feel like that

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falls into kind of that anime
trope.

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So but then why Star Wars at the
beginning of the clip?

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I feel like there's got to be
something there.

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I'm.
Thinking it is because we

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specifically discussed the
planets that you go to in this

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game, mirroring a Star Wars
pattern.

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Although honestly, there's
several things we talked about,

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that doesn't mean it's actually
Han, does it?

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Right, the characters were
essentially also parallels.

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Yeah, but Han's not Han.
Now I'm worried that Han it go.

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He's playing mind games with us.
He's ready for the answer.

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I'm ready.
Yeah, OK.

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The correct answer is C Rica,
the Android.

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Well, the manual states that
Rica has spent a lifetime inside

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an underground computer complex.
That same manual states that the

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lifetime has only lasted a
single solitary year, making her

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by far the youngest member of
the party.

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The bonus answer is that it was
a reference to our episode where

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we talked about how there was a
strange amount of overlap

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between the cast of Fantasy *4
and the cast of Star Wars.

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Ryan, you always impress like
you are so freaking funny and I

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will never forget your
dedication to I'm going to say

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to us.
When you had to restart Fantasy

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*4 after being I think 6 or 7
hours in because that was the

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game where you only save by
pressing pause, but there's no

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indication you should be doing
that.

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And then you turned off the
switch before you remembered you

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could rewind and fix that
problem.

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It was just I love War Boss 5
episodes and I want more.

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He brings such energy into these
questions.

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He does.
He does.

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I I was I was wondering if
there's going to be a return of

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their, you know, characters from
last time.

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But like, I like this one
equally.

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It's so good.
Amazing.

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This is why I'm enjoying this.
All right into the next

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question, hello again, it's
Rivi.

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Yells from Twitch.
I was super happy to be able to

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do a second Zelda episode with
you guys this season.

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So I'd like to ask you a
question about one of my all

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time favorite games, Ocarina of
Time.

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As a kid I always loved writing
a Pona around.

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So in the game, how do you gain
access to a Pona?

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Is it A you escape from Lun Lun
Ranch, B you let Malon play your

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ocarina, C you win her in a
shooting mini game or D you have

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to complete the full trading
sequence quest?

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Well, you go first.
All right, well, here's the fun

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part.
I don't know.

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I remember you don't know, there
was a whole conversation on that

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episode about how you never
saved Apona cuz you're a

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heartless monster.
I didn't know I needed to.

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I guess I'll go training
sequence cuz it feels like it

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should be more involved than the
shooting thing and I don't think

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it's the others.
But yeah, I don't know.

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Well, the good news is I know
you're wrong because I did not

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complete the trading quest and I
got Apona.

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So now this is a unique
opportunity to kind of pull

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ahead.
I remember there was a dramatic

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moment in the game.
You can't change your answer.

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I see the face you're making.
I, I, I heard training quest not

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trading quest and I would have
guessed C in that case, but I

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don't think it's going to help.
I also don't think it was when

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the shooting challenge because I
I vaguely remember that there

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was a cinematic element of when
you get Ipona, and I believe

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it's because you get locked into
Meilan Ranch and you and her

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both escape and then she's your
horse from then on.

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So I'm going to guess a escape
from LON LON Ranch.

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I do like the Let My Own Play
your Ocarina as a statement

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though.
Why?

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Mostly because it reminds me of
the first time I went to the Ren

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fair and there was a woman
selling like roasted almonds or

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something just yelling I can
suck.

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And then she would suck one of
the almonds and then she'd say,

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and I can blow.
And then she would blow an

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ocarina.
Mike former students listen to

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this podcast.
What are you doing right now?

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Jesus.
OK, I'm promoting the Renfair.

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Sure, sure.
OK, listen algorithm and anyone

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pissed off he said it.
I didn't the algorithm.

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Got past Star Wars, we're good.
God, God, a cat please the

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answer.
All right, the answer was a you

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escaped with her from LON LON
Ranch.

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Jamo would have known that if he
had bothered to go get her.

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Bye guys, have fun.
What was this slander?

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Mike is the one who didn't save
Apona.

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I saved Apona, dammit.
Is she trolling me or did she

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deliberate?
Like, did she actually not

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remember that?
She referenced this elsewhere

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and I'm like, correction, I am
the one that failed to do that.

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And then she's like, Oh well
then I got it wrong in the in

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what I recorded, but feel free
to roast me for it so.

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I mean look my my trolling of
RiRi is long and historic on the

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show so I definitely deserve I
deserve the the confusion but so

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good.
I feel like.

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I feel like now balance has been
restored to the universe because

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we weren't able to get around
the first time and now we get 2,

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so we are still net positive.
RiRi.

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And let's jump in to the next
one.

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It's Kill the Shika, I'm Kill
I'm the Shika and I play Zelda

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games, primarily randomizers.
I was a guest on the 7th episode

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of season 3 titled Ocarina of
Time or Time to Kill.

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With the old switcheroo,
official Zelda consultant RiRi

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yells.
My question for you is what song

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did Daruniya, leader of the
goran's name, a hot?

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Beat.
Is it a Saria song, B Zelda's

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lullaby, C the song of Storms,
or D Opponus song?

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Well, I am going to guess.
I'm going to guess.

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Oh, Dang it.
It's between 2:00.

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It's between two.
OK, I just have to, I just have

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to make a decision.
C Song of Storms.

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OK.
I'm going to say because this is

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I thought this is relatively
early on that I think I played

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this before getting Sauna
storms.

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I think it's Sorry as song
because I think it's a thing

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that you can hear coming
through, like some of the

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tunnels.
OK, I'll be really mad because

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that was my second choice, so
let's see.

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Let's find out.
The answer?

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Is a sorry a song?
When Daruniya hears Link perform

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the song taught to him by his
friend back in the forest, he

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can't help but be pulled out of
his depression and dance to the

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hot beat.
How'd you do?

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Did you get it right?
Also, thank you so much for

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having me as a guest on the
podcast.

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And congratulations for three
seasons of the old Switcheroo

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Happy Gaming.
Well, I'm upset, but not because

451
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,560
of kill, because I Yeah, I was
trying to think if there was

452
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,720
like some kind of pun involved.
And I was like, oh, storm

453
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,680
lightning hot.
But that doesn't make sense

454
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,440
because storms are more norm for
rain for that.

455
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,920
All right, well done.
But Kill I I just really

456
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,520
appreciate you being one of the
earliest supporters of the show.

457
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,320
Right, Mike.
Yeah, I do appreciate because

458
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,160
she will mention mention this
when I'm in her chat.

459
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,480
So actually she is right now.
So if you're listening to this

460
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,680
now, this has already happened
because we're not live.

461
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,480
She's right now doing a 24 hour
stream to mark hitting 1000

462
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,160
followers on Twitch.
And so when I stopped by to wish

463
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,640
her luck on that early on, she
did plug that she was on the

464
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,720
show that people wanted to go
see more, more Zelda content.

465
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,880
So I always appreciate that.
Very supportive.

466
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,640
It's weird now because I can
watch her streams and I know

467
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,680
what's happening with Ocarina
Time because I did not know for

468
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,480
a very long time.
And they go through that game

469
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,360
real fast, so you don't get any
of the plot bits.

470
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Right.
That's why I have to play it, so

471
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,040
I can understand what's going
on.

472
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,840
Have you never played Zelda Cat?
I have not.

473
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,960
No any form of it.
None in the new year.

474
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,880
I'm hoping to start at least
playing it, if not streaming it.

475
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,320
I think you'd like it.
I feel like you have a

476
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,760
appreciation for that aesthetic.
Yeah.

477
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,560
So I'm not sure which one I'm
going to start with.

478
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,440
Everybody tells me not to start
with the first one.

479
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,320
Because they're right.
You could start the one that

480
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,600
Mike is also starting and get
your take on it.

481
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,240
That'd be interesting.
So yeah, it'll be probably in

482
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,960
the new year before I get a
chance to start it though.

483
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,640
Right on.
All right, now back on track and

484
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,920
here is the next question.
Hi guys, Timmy Williams here

485
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,280
from The Whitest Kids You Know
and earn full of Popcorn, my

486
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,200
horror movie podcast with my
friend Shandy.

487
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Anyways, when we played Kung Fu
Heroes for the NES, Jamo dropped

488
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,320
some interesting knowledge.
He told us that Game Machine

489
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,200
Magazine, which is apparently a
real magazine, had named Kung Fu

490
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Heroes the most successful
tabletop machine of October

491
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,840
1984, narrowly beating out
Konami's Super Basketball and

492
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,120
beating out which quote
titillating Mahjong simulator UN

493
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:33,680
quote was it?
A sexy mahjong B night gal C

494
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,720
mahjong for your Dong or D sexy
game gals.

495
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Oh my God, Mike asked me to not
make noise while they're playing

496
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,240
and that third choice, I almost
choked.

497
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,360
I I've never seen Mike laugh
this hard.

498
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Oh my gosh.
Incredible.

499
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Incredible.
This is a moment in my life.

500
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Oh, Timmy, you don't understand
what you just did to me.

501
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680
You know, the great part is he
could have chosen to ask

502
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,360
questions about Ninja Gaiden,
the well known game.

503
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Yeah, we got.
We got we got gold, Mike.

504
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,680
It's your choice.
Your your guess.

505
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,400
I am pretty sure it's Night Gal.
It is.

506
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200
It absolutely is.
What 1 was Night Gal?

507
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,000
It'd be.
All right, let's find out.

508
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,480
For the answer, let's go back to
the tape.

509
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,400
I've always wanted to say that
Nichibutsu's titillating mahjong

510
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,000
simulator Night Gal.
Yes, the answer is B Night Gal,

511
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,480
which then LED us to this weird
slash disgusting conversation.

512
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
You a fan of Night Gal, Timmy?
I don't know about that one.

513
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Is it similar to Gal's Panic or
what?

514
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,480
I that's kind of that Gal genre.
Yeah, but it's just the mahjong

515
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,960
thing.
The Gal's genre.

516
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Can I call pornography that?
Like I don't watch porn, OK?

517
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,760
I'm a fan of the.
Gal genre.

518
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,200
I watch a gal genre.
Yeah, keep it classy.

519
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120
So there's my contribution to
this trivia thing.

520
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,680
And hey, Mike and Jamo,
congratulations on your third

521
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,960
season wrapping up of your
delightful podcast and I hope my

522
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200
prize for this trivia.
Round was adequate.

523
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,000
Wait, was I supposed?
To send a prize.

524
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,480
Mike, I have.
I have so much to say, but I'm

525
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,560
going to let you go first.
So pleased that Timmy's been a

526
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,120
part part of this, one of those
things that took a while to line

527
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,360
up and I still can't believe it
did.

528
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960
So glad that we threw in Kung Fu
Heroes into that episode,

529
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,240
because it was.
It's like we need something to

530
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,320
make that fun, and Timmy
certainly did that.

531
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,240
And how Mike, I'm going to I'm
not being hyperbolic.

532
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,720
I'm being sincere.
Whitest kids, you know is I

533
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,800
think, one of the funniest shows
ever made.

534
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,520
And I, I, I feel like those guys
are just icons.

535
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,240
I don't want to get too weird
because I want to come back.

536
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,800
I don't want to be weirded out
by me.

537
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,920
But like, if you asked me if I
could get any comedians on the

538
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,120
show, I wouldn't think to ask
for them because I wouldn't have

539
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,840
think to dream that big.
Like, it's so crazy to hear

540
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,160
Timmy Williams saying my name
and quoting a joke that we've

541
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120
made together.
I'm going to freaking cry.

542
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480
This is amazing, Timmy.
Yeah.

543
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,080
And of course, I will mention as
a side bit here, because he

544
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,640
mentioned it when he was on that
they had an animated movie that

545
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,880
was in the works.
And they have recently announced

546
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,680
that we'll be getting a
distribution deal, which will

547
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,720
include a theatrical release in
New York and for us, a

548
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920
theatrical release in LA of some
capacity.

549
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Got to go, we got to go.
I totally intend to, so I'm

550
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,160
looking forward to hearing that
detail come at some point.

551
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,520
But they're movie Mars.
It will be coming out somewhere

552
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,240
soon Ish E.
Yeah, and it's, it's going to be

553
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,800
incredible.
Like it.

554
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,400
It seems like such a fun
premise.

555
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,440
I wanted to share something with
you, Mike.

556
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,720
I, I, I think based on earn full
of popcorn.

557
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Timmy will also appreciate this.
OK, Mike, can you see the image

558
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,560
that I created with Gemini?
Here it is an art gallery with

559
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360
four frames on the wall.
Yeah, so the.

560
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,760
So the first one is the cover
image from our episode with

561
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280
Timmy.
Mike and Jamo were on the old

562
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:29,000
switcheroo with Timmy Williams
who was on The Whitest Kids You

563
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,360
know season 2 with Jenny Slate
who was in Despicable Me Three

564
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,400
with Steve Carell who is in
Crazy Stupid Love with who Mike

565
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,280
I'm.
Going to presume that Kevin

566
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Bacon's in that for the premise
here.

567
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Yeah, like because of Timmy star
power and your hard work on this

568
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520
show, we are three degrees away
from Kevin Bacon.

569
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,280
I think I already was.
What?

570
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960
How?
Actually, I think I guess we

571
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,000
both were for counting podcasts
at that point because I think

572
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Brian's 2° away.
Because of Star Trek.

573
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,760
Yeah.
You know what, I just, I just

574
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,960
really am honored that Timmy
spent that time with us.

575
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,600
And how cool to have something
from a person to whom I'm a true

576
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,080
fan.
So thank you so much, Timmy.

577
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,760
Yeah, it's been weirdly a large
amount of mileage out of that

578
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,160
episode because you did bring up
the their YouTube videos that

579
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,880
have been getting up uploaded.
Yeah.

580
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,800
And I have on multiple occasions
been able to be like when

581
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,960
someone's asking about their
line and be like, oh, actually

582
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,360
we talked with Timmy about that
and he said this is how those

583
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120
are getting uploaded.
And so that has gotten that,

584
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,600
that episode more than a couple
plugs.

585
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,600
Nice, we'll take all we can get.
Oh yeah, and don't forget to

586
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,280
like or subscribe if you're
enjoying this.

587
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Yeah, and share it.
And yeah, his podcast Urn Full

588
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
of Popcorn is also thoroughly
enjoyable.

589
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
I was watching another one of
the movies they covered last

590
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,560
night.
Jackie and I are going to watch

591
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Texas Chainsaw 2 together to
enjoy that episode and I also

592
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:10,880
listened to their Black Phone
episode and it's just the two of

593
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,600
them are just so good.
It's a good good listen, good

594
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,159
fun time.
Yeah, it's just a lot of I had

595
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,679
been wanting, I'd like to just
hear Timmy talk about movies

596
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,719
more and then he like when he
released the podcast and it was

597
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,960
like, oh, wait, you have the
podcast is out.

598
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,840
It's like you didn't you aren't
already listening.

599
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,080
It's like, no, I didn't know
yet.

600
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,440
So.
Ready for the next one?

601
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,480
What's up Switcher Roosters Mike
and Jayma.

602
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,760
How are you guys doing?
It's me, Nate from trailer boys

603
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,080
and mid hunters obviously.
You may recall we played a rad

604
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,800
game called Blast Core from my
past core, and while there were

605
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,120
some interesting characters that
were playable with some cool

606
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,200
names like J Bomb or some kind
of basic and boring names like

607
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Sideswipe, there were some
hidden playable vehicles that

608
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,320
were roughly based on popular
television shows at the time.

609
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Now what 3 television shows were
these vehicles based on?

610
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,280
All right.
So I don't think we have answer

611
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,520
choices.
Nope, this one is half the.

612
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,280
I can.
I can do it, I'll guess, and

613
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,240
then you can decide whether or
not to agree with me as if it

614
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,040
was multiple choice.
Yeah, give me, give me a moment

615
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,280
as I'm thinking.
So I know I, I, I think I've got

616
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,120
all three as well.
I absolutely have all three.

617
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,160
OK, so if you feel more
confident I'll go through this

618
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,240
and you can tell me where I'm
wrong.

619
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,640
You won't be.
Go ahead.

620
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960
OK, I know the A teams van is in
this.

621
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,240
Correct.
And I know that we talked about

622
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:49,880
how they repurpose the General
Lee from Dukes of Hazzard to be

623
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,000
pro American.
Indeed.

624
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,800
So the third one's, the one I'm
not certain about because I

625
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,960
think it's a more basic car.
I'm going to guess Starsky and

626
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,440
Hutch.
And I'm going to agree.

627
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,760
Dang it, I thought you were.
I thought I saw a moment of

628
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,080
weakness there.
I I was very uncertain on that

629
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,600
last one.
Well, you're going to be proud

630
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,160
of yourself.
All right, here we go.

631
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,160
OK, how do we do?
I don't know if this was easy or

632
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:23,920
hard because one of them didn't
really look like the car from

633
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,160
the show.
So obviously we have the the

634
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,840
black van with the red stripe
being from the A-Team.

635
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,520
We have the red muscle car with
the white stripe being from

636
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Starsky and Hutch.
But then finally we get this 70s

637
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,480
kind of classic muscle car with
an American flag on it and that

638
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,600
actually.
Was.

639
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Based on Dukes of Hazzard, they
didn't use the orange with the

640
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,440
confederate flag, but that is
what that is supposed to be

641
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,160
referencing.
So how'd you do?

642
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,480
I mean we did great and Mike
Nate was another one you were

643
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,000
super excited to get.
I'm having been a fan of his

644
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,760
streams for so long.
Yeah, and where he talks about

645
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Trailer Boys, which as of like a
week ago or two weeks ago, I

646
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,760
have dropped from being top of
the leaderboard for this season,

647
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,320
which was coming, but.
But did you say you were

648
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,160
temporarily at the top of the
leaderboard?

649
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,320
Yeah.
Wow, it's.

650
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,000
To 100 points and I crossed 50
before anybody else and the top

651
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,200
of the leaderboard has
tightened.

652
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:32,360
So I, I have no hopes in my mind
of winning that.

653
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,080
But I stayed in the lead much
more it I feel kind of like you

654
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,240
ever see one of those videos of
someone at a marathon, like the

655
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,600
one dude who decides to run as
fast as he can at the beginning

656
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,400
and gets out and then like 3
blocks overhead gets overtaken

657
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,760
by like 50 people?
Like that's kind of where I'm

658
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,000
feeling on this right now.
It's like, you know what?

659
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,920
I was never going to win but I
was in the lead for a bit, which

660
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,840
is more than not being in the
lead for a bit.

661
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,800
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.

662
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,520
You you keep doing so well on
that.

663
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,280
I'm going to make you change
your username to something that

664
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,080
promotes the podcast.
But yeah, Nate, like I I love

665
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,680
when, you know, meeting new
people through the show.

666
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,160
And, you know, I've, I've
checked out a couple of the

667
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,120
Trailer Boys episodes and I just
think, you know, going back to

668
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,720
Captain and what a concept,
right?

669
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,800
Like, that's such a good idea
for a show.

670
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,680
And you and Sam just, you know,
have such good chemistry.

671
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,640
So thank you so much for being a
part of our show and thank you

672
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,880
for being so entertaining.
Trailer Boys on Sundays on

673
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,400
Twitch.
There it is.

674
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,160
And it's actually it is on it is
hosted on the official WKUK

675
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,600
twitch channel.
When White's kids, you know do

676
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,600
does other stuff, it's on there
since not mentioned here, but

677
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,320
discuss when we had him on.
Nate is Sam's brother and Sam

678
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,480
was also in White's Kids, you
know.

679
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Happy mid hunting though.
Also love that concept the mid.

680
00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:00,080
As someone who considers himself
a little mid, I appreciate you

681
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,160
looking for the underappreciated
middle ground.

682
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,720
Yeah, there's some I think or
yeah, we'll be out in October.

683
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,840
So I think he'll be streaming a
lot of mid.

684
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,720
Horror for October, and there's
a lot of it.

685
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,360
Oh yeah, do.
You have the score, Cat.

686
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,160
I think I'm still slightly in
the lead.

687
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Yeah, it's Mike is 6 and you
have 7.

688
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,920
That doesn't include if we want
to add that bonus point from

689
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Ryan, which would just bump your
scores up by 1, so.

690
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,760
I think we should do it because
then we both have one more

691
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,640
point.
Heck, yeah.

692
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,880
All right.
I have 8.

693
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,320
Mike has seven.
Yeah.

694
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120
All right, here we go.
Next question.

695
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,440
Hey guys, it's Andrew from
Nothing New.

696
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,280
When we talked about Clue Clue
Land, you'd mentioned that

697
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,240
Bubbles, the protagonist of Klu
Klu Land, one of the earliest

698
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:59,040
female protagonists in a video
game ever, and they don't even

699
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,680
bring it up in the game.
So I challenge you to name as

700
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,560
many female protagonists in
video games as you can, going

701
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560
back and forth one at a time.
Whoever won the last trivia

702
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,520
question can start.
And let's take a few off the

703
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,360
board, the ones that we
discussed in the episode, Laura

704
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Croft, Miss Pac-Man, and of
course, bubbles can't be used as

705
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,720
answers, but any of the others
are fair.

706
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,600
Game as many as you can.
Good luck, have fun.

707
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,760
I like this.
That's creative.

708
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,520
OK, so the we both got the last
trivia question correct.

709
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,120
Yeah.
Do we want to go with Jeremy's

710
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,440
up?
Oh, sure, sure.

711
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,680
Now the person in the lead goes
first.

712
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,960
He.
Said the person who won the last

713
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,440
question.
That's true.

714
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,600
That's true.
So if we go back to ties, all

715
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,560
right, not counting Lara Croft,
Miss Pac-Man or Bubbles, I will

716
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,600
start with Bayonetta.
I will go with Princess Peach

717
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,240
because she's had her own game.
OK, then I will go Daisy, who is

718
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,000
often her companion.
What were the ones we couldn't

719
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,480
say were?
Which 3 was it?

720
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,720
Lara Croft, Miss Pac-Man and
Bubbles.

721
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,800
OK, Samus.
Rosalina.

722
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,760
I feel like you're starting to
stretch your definition of

723
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:25,040
leading May character.
Did he say leading ladies or did

724
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,840
he just say female?
Oh, he said female protagonist,

725
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,720
didn't he?
Yeah.

726
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,360
OK.
All right, I'll take Rosalina

727
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,640
off the table then, because
you've been able to play Daisy

728
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,920
in a couple of the Mario games.
So I will respect the game.

729
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,480
And I will say Chen Li, I'm a
Street Fighter.

730
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:45,160
That's fair.
Yeah, OK, then I will go with I

731
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,480
forgot to say it.
It's like chante Chante.

732
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,360
It's like the the side scrolling
like Genie that like whips her

733
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,440
hair.
Yeah, Chante, I'm good with

734
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:01,080
that.
Well then, let's go next to Are

735
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,800
we counting Commander Shepard?
Because most people play that

736
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,280
character, I think, as a female.
I, I mean, honestly, I would, I

737
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,520
would take that more than I
would have taken Chun Lee, I

738
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,320
think.
OK, Commander Shepard.

739
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,760
Hate where I'm like oh that one
from I don't remember the name.

740
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,720
I know Star Wars star fighter is
like the default is a female

741
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,640
character but I don't remember
her name because I just accepted

742
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,600
the default and moved on because
I don't care about the person I

743
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,560
care about the ship.
So that's not helpful for this.

744
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Is the ship female?
I mean in a way.

745
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,320
The spaceships fall under that
because I know like ships are a

746
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,760
she.
Does that also count on

747
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
spaceships?
Yes, because they describe the

748
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,080
Millennium Falcon as she may not
look like much, but she's got it

749
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,920
where it counts, so yes.
Solo canonically establishes

750
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,680
that the computer of that ship
is a female Droid.

751
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,800
Yeah.
You giving up, Mike?

752
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,760
No, I'm just trying to pad long
enough to try to come up with

753
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,760
something else.
I tried to help.

754
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,280
There are so many games where
I'm like, oh wait, oh, even

755
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:05,640
that.
God damn.

756
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,120
It I think in the interest of
the show flow we should put a

757
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,640
timer on this just.
Editing for me.

758
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,160
We're here 2 hours later.
Yeah, it's going to be 20

759
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,760
seconds in the edit shell from
Portal.

760
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:30,560
OK, yeah, Shell, yeah.
So then I am going to go with, I

761
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,600
mean Kasumi is the protagonist
of the Dead or alive series, but

762
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,800
I kind of feel like the fighting
game route is a bit dirty so I'm

763
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,600
OK.
I'm OK to abandon the fighting

764
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,600
game route Or do I get one last
one with Kasumi, the protagonist

765
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,160
of Dead or Alive?
Yeah, we'll give you one last

766
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,080
one with that.
OK, no more fighting game

767
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520
characters for me, but if you
want to get a couple in I

768
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,000
understand.
Then I guess just to sort of

769
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,840
balance things off in that
category, is Jade a female

770
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,440
character on Mortal Kombat?
I'm just going through the

771
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Mortal Kombat song in my head.
Jade is she's the green ninja

772
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,840
all right?
I think calling her a

773
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,840
protagonist is a bit of a
stretch, but considering I've

774
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,360
done 2 fighting game characters
I'm going to allow it.

775
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Kind of.
I'm on the ropes anyway.

776
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,120
OK, so I'm going to go blaze
from Streets of Rage.

777
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,480
Yeah, that's fair.
I'm going to tap out of that

778
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,600
because it's like I have so many
games that are, which is like, I

779
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,080
don't remember what any of these
names are.

780
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,360
Yeah.
Games that I've talked about on

781
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,840
light on like light switches and
stuff and all kinds of things

782
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,720
where it's like, yeah, there
was, I don't remember any of

783
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,400
their names.
So yeah, I'm got.

784
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,640
I'm going to tap out at that
point.

785
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,360
Well I'll just go for the kill
shot and say Tyrus flair from

786
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Golden Axe.
Yeah, I was trying to remember

787
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,200
her name as soon as you, as soon
as you did the Golden.

788
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,080
It's like it's something and I
don't remember.

789
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,760
All right.
I'm like I I can think of

790
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,760
several I'm not playing.
Don't know any of their names

791
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,560
though because I'm not a gamer.
Yeah, no, it's like there's a,

792
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,000
there's a nanogram like slash
mystery solving game, but I play

793
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,960
it and it's like you're that
like the central character that

794
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,800
it, I don't remember her name.
You hung in there.

795
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,760
You know, considering how much
more of like, I'm an overall

796
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,600
gamer, I am like you.
You actually you had me thinking

797
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:24,240
for a second, so well done.
OK, my knowledge comes from oh

798
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,000
that would make a cute cosplay.
None more righteous, if you ask

799
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,160
me.
I mean, I know there was one one

800
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,000
of the Assassin's Creed.
Yeah.

801
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Is it Rogue had a female
protagonist in it?

802
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Because I really want to make
that jacket.

803
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Oh.
That'd be dope.

804
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,760
I was even just stuffers like,
hey, there's that popular game

805
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,280
now where the main character is
a woman with schizophrenia.

806
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,680
I'm like, that's not a name,
that's a large description.

807
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,320
Or a hell of a name.
You got some mean parents.

808
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Yeah.
Or so as an Australian I feel

809
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,000
like I should mention Cami.
I don't know what game she was

810
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,760
from, but she was played by
Kylie in the movie.

811
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,280
Street in Street Fighter.
Oh, actually Mike, it was Super

812
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Street Fighter too that added
her.

813
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,040
I get another.
Was the movie called that?

814
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,360
I mean, the movie is super so.
And I mean way too many.

815
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,040
It's another one of those very
highly cosplayed characters, so.

816
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,480
I'll I'll post a picture of my
Cami cosplay afterwards

817
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,560
recording.
Is it Canon?

818
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,280
Jamo also knows all those
characters for cute cosplay.

819
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,240
Exactly.
That's one of those cosplays

820
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:38,640
that are always interesting at
conventions, because if it's

821
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,680
played correctly, it's also not
safe for conventions.

822
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,280
Right.
All right, let's jump into the

823
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,680
next question.
Howdy boys, this is Chico de Ma

824
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:57,080
from witfrontier.com splashing
my way in here to ask a question

825
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,920
about F-099.
Start your engines, boys.

826
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:09,440
When we played F-099, what is
the BSF 0 vehicle you can unlock

827
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:17,160
for Doctor Stewart's Golden Fox?
A the green Amazon, B the Luna

828
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Bomber, C the Blue Thunder, or D
the Fire Scorpion?

829
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,720
Time is running out.
As soon as this question started

830
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,840
down that path, I knew I was in
trouble because I knew we were

831
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,880
heading from like from F-099
being 7.

832
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,760
This is going to be about those
things, isn't it?

833
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,200
And I don't remember them, and
I'm trying to guess one that

834
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,000
sounds familiar.
I we may have been given all

835
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,240
four alternate vehicles, in
which case that's a bad

836
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,960
strategy.
So I'm going to get C, which was

837
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,200
the Blue Thunder, because I feel
like I've heard that and that is

838
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,240
the most I have to go on on
this.

839
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,800
Well I'm pretty confident that
it's not the blue Thunder

840
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,760
because that would be the
alternate skin for Captain

841
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,840
Falcons machine which is the
blue Falcon and then the green

842
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Amazon that would have been the
one the pico.

843
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,560
The aliens fire scorpion would
have been Samurai Goro alternate

844
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,280
1.
So the only one left would be

845
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,520
Luna Bomber.
Doctor Stewart is the yellow car

846
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,800
and I could see the moon being
also kind of yellow tinted.

847
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,920
That would make sense as a name.
So pretty confident Luna Bomber

848
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160
B.
All right, let's find out.

849
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
The answer was B Son, the Luna
bomber son.

850
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,880
I'll say, I'll say the.
Original close up of this.

851
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Render has fire decals on the
four engines.

852
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,360
That was just a fun fact.
Happy trails, son.

853
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,280
It really transit transitioned
over into Foghorn Leghorn by the

854
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,920
end.
I mean, Chico's a character.

855
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,720
Chico creates incredible
characters.

856
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,520
If you enjoyed that kind of
Looney Tune esque personality

857
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,600
just brought to the show, be
sure to check out What Frontier.

858
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:06,280
Every panel of that comic just
bleeds fun and personality and

859
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,520
what an artistic talent.
Chico is special to me for a

860
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,160
number of reasons. 1 I believe
may be the only person other

861
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,240
than Mike and I who's listened
to all of our episodes.

862
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:22,400
So that alone, like God bless
you, but also the only person to

863
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,520
do guest cover art, the F0 cover
art that you made for episode is

864
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,080
stunning.
It puts my trace doodles to

865
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,680
shame.
But it is just you're such a

866
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,440
talent and keep creating, keep
coming back.

867
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,160
You mean the world to us?
And if you think you've also

868
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,400
listened to all the episodes,
tell us in the Discord.

869
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,840
Yeah.
And rate or something give us a

870
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,760
like.
Yeah, tell some people stupid,

871
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,600
all of them being things I
didn't I didn't even realize

872
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,800
that they that they were like
color matched like that.

873
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,080
Like I didn't even know that was
a strategy that could be done.

874
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,600
Well, you Pooh poohed me when I
said that it was the four colors

875
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,720
of the Famicom, and that's I
think why it was burned into my

876
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,880
brain as I was thinking of them
distinctly as red, blue, yellow,

877
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,320
green.
I.

878
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,640
Mean those are just like the
four colors you do.

879
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,720
That's what you said, but who
remembered it and who forgot

880
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,400
just now?
I didn't know they kept them as

881
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,960
the same colors is what I'm
saying.

882
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,720
Gotcha.
Like, not that it's not the same

883
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:19,120
4.
It's like, I didn't know it was,

884
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,640
it was a oh, these are still.
This one's still blue.

885
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,400
This one's still red.
Whatever.

886
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,440
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

887
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,040
Yeah, that's what happens.
All right, here we go.

888
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,400
Let's get into the next
question.

889
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Hey Mike and Jamo, I had a great
time talking about the Wily wars

890
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,920
with you and all things Mega
Man.

891
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,440
I have a question that I don't
think either of you are going to

892
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,680
get.
After you beat Mega Man 1-2 and

893
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,560
three, you're presented with
three Bostons, Busta, Rod G,

894
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:51,640
Megawater S and Hyperstorm H
They are all part of what Wiley

895
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,920
unit?
What is the name of the Wiley

896
00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:00,360
unit that they are part of?
Really hoping to get some answer

897
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,680
choices on that one and I go
first.

898
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,240
I mean, it ain't going to
matter, but yeah.

899
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,760
Well, I remember you said
they're like The Mavericks from

900
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Super Nintendo, but they aren't.
They are.

901
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,760
It's a, it's a one word, it's
something unit.

902
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,040
It's like killer unit or heavy.
No, not heavy.

903
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,120
I don't think they'd say killer.
That seems too violent.

904
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:31,320
So I am going to say storm unit.
No, no, because hyper storm.

905
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,400
And no, it wouldn't be storm
because storm is already one of

906
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,800
their names.
They wouldn't do that.

907
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,920
I'll say.
I'll say Killer Unit because

908
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,160
it's the best guess I can think
of at the moment.

909
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:40,520
Killer Unit.
OK.

910
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,440
And as you brought up like
Maverick but not and Maverick

911
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,840
wasn't Top Gun with goose.
So I'm going to say that they're

912
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,640
the geese.
If you get this right, I'm going

913
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,680
to be so mad.
If I get this right, I'm going

914
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,320
to be mad with that.
All right, let's find out the

915
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,160
answer guys.
The unit that Bustaraji, Mega

916
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:09,360
Water S and Hyperstorm H are
part of are called the Genesis

917
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Unit in the United States.
Well Don, you were right,

918
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,960
neither of us got it, but more
importantly we got you on the

919
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,320
show.
We really appreciate all the

920
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,840
support from the Cable Club
league having Mike and I on in

921
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,960
the current season.
And you know, I love you guys so

922
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,880
much, you'll even forgive what
you've done.

923
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Placing Brood War above third
strike history.

924
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,280
History has its eyes on you, and
it will smile upon me one day.

925
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,720
But Mike, how fun is the cable
Club league, I mean?

926
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,960
Quite fun, which is probably
also why we've had a fair chunk

927
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,440
of overlap between guests at
this point, since they just had

928
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,600
Ririyong to talk about yet
another Zelda game, and they

929
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,480
also have Derek coming up for
Ocarina of Time I believe.

930
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,800
And Hapney was on I'll be it
briefly, but Hapney submission

931
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,120
was WCWNWO revenge.
Yeah, I just you know what?

932
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,000
Just one big happy family of
podcasts here.

933
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,440
I love it all.
Right, let's go in to the next

934
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:18,680
one.
Oh hey guys, it's Sarah from

935
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,640
Defun Games.
I don't know, maybe you Remember

936
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Me.
We did a episode about the

937
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,160
Ghosts and Goblins series.
It was good, maybe a little

938
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,200
long.
Well, since then you're just,

939
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,520
well, you're just never going to
believe what happened to me

940
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,960
after our chat.
Get this, somebody broke into my

941
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,920
house and just smacked me over
the head real hard and it still

942
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,400
hurts.
Since then, I've been stuck on

943
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,760
this boat in the middle of the
ocean, just going nowhere.

944
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,320
I've already lost faith that
anyone's going to find me.

945
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,880
So instead, what I've done is
I've come up with a Sir Arthur

946
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,040
related question for your big
show.

947
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,240
All right, here it is.
So, an electronic Gimme

948
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:03,600
Monthly's 100th issue published
back in 1997, they listed out

949
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,120
the top 100 best video games
ever made.

950
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,840
As you'd expect, Ghouls and
Ghosts on the Genesis found its

951
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,440
way to a very solid 47th place.
And my question to you is this,

952
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,560
what place did super ghouls and
ghost show up?

953
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,720
I want to see who will come
closest to the right answer.

954
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,920
And when you're done with that,
can you do me a favor and send

955
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,120
help?
I can already hear the Thunder

956
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,880
behind me and trust me, you
don't want to be in a small boat

957
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,040
in the middle of a storm,
especially when there's this

958
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,960
thing circling the look I'm
begging you, just send out.

959
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,560
Well, do we send help before or
after we guess I?

960
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,680
Mean it won't take us that long
to guess.

961
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Cyril has mentioned on the
Discord, right?

962
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,000
He's been, he's, he's like, we
have proof of life on him,

963
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,080
right?
That was amazing.

964
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,520
His channel's still uploading
so.

965
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,120
OK.
But those could have been

966
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,280
scheduled.
We don't know.

967
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,640
He's so organized.
Yeah, but he's he's on top of

968
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,200
the new the new releases stuff.
All right.

969
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,000
Good to know he's hopefully OK.
And the question was, what place

970
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,400
in EGM's top 100 games did they
say Super Cools and Ghosts was?

971
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,920
Yeah, I'm.
Going to get pretty close I

972
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,800
think.
This is turning into like a

973
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,920
whole Princess Bride cup in
front of me kind of thing where

974
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,680
it's like, I know that I did not
like super ghouls and ghosts,

975
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,440
but I also know that everybody
else did.

976
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,440
So it's more like than I think
it should be, but I don't know

977
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,320
how off that is.
Clearly you cannot drink the cup

978
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,560
in front of me.
Yeah, and I remember him talking

979
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,000
about their overall rankings
being really close for since

980
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,520
he's got the like the overall
all reviews averaged for

981
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,320
contemporary reviews and they're
actually they're pretty close,

982
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,280
but with the Genesis 1 coming
out ahead.

983
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,760
OK.
I think I might have been

984
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,240
thinking about that number.
I think he gave us that number.

985
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,000
This is where I'm not sure
about.

986
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,800
Well, I'll throw out a number.
I am going to guess 53.

987
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:20,320
Oh, OK, It'll be a tight window.
I'm going to stick with my guns

988
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,800
and go by the number I remember
from the episode.

989
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,600
And even if it was the overall
ranking, I feel like that

990
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,520
academically is better than just
feeling through my guts.

991
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,320
So I'm going to say 60.
All right, let's find out how it

992
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,000
did.
Hey guys, it's Cyril from

993
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,880
Defunct Games again.
Have you sent out any help yet?

994
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,440
You didn't do anything, did you?
You just answered my question.

995
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,720
Now you're waiting for the
answer, I guess.

996
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,320
Oh, here it is.
Believe it or not, Super Ghouls

997
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,440
and Ghosts came in 22nd place,
wedged right between Final

998
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,880
Fantasy 7 at 21 and Art Type 3
at 23.

999
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,560
It actually did quite a bit
better than Ghouls and Ghosts on

1000
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,920
the Genesis raising.
I know now, if you don't mind

1001
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,480
me, I'm just I'm just going to
deal with this nasty leak

1002
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,520
problem.
I tell you, it's always

1003
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,400
something when you're stuck in
the middle of the ocean in a

1004
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:24,280
boat and still impeccable sound
quality from that boat.

1005
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Incredible.
Yeah, the real cruel part is

1006
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,440
this has reminded me of another
game with a female protagonist I

1007
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,560
played recently that I don't
remember the character's name

1008
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,760
of.
Much higher than I expected.

1009
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,920
Yeah, yeah, you were right to
think like, oh, people liked it

1010
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,880
better, even though you and I
personally didn't.

1011
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,360
It was critically better
received, interesting and well

1012
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,080
played.
I I can't even be mad at that

1013
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,640
one.
Yeah, and exactly the sort of

1014
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,320
deep dive into the world of
critics that one would expect

1015
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,360
from him.
Yeah, Defunct Games is just so

1016
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,200
impeccably researched, such a
such a fun approach to video

1017
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,280
game history, such a important
task.

1018
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,640
I mean, you know, like you and I
are kind of trying to document

1019
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,280
the Nintendo Switch online, but
I think, you know, his coverage

1020
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,840
of coverage.
I think it's it's so cool.

1021
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,880
And also I always, you know,
appreciate when someone's, you

1022
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,720
know, records a really long
episode with us.

1023
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,200
I like the little dig about how
long that episode was.

1024
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,280
You ain't wrong, but it was one
of our best.

1025
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,560
So thank you, Sarah.
You're awesome and.

1026
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,360
So many citations in that that I
actually hit a character limit

1027
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,880
on the show notes.
Wow, that's the first, isn't it?

1028
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,440
Yeah, because it's 6000
characters or something, and

1029
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,720
there's just so many different
articles being referenced in

1030
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
there that I had to get creative
in citations.

1031
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,520
And don't forget to check out
the Kickstarter for the EGM

1032
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Compendium, I think that's still
going if you want to support

1033
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,720
that and get a copy.
Should I check real quick to see

1034
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,720
if it's still going?
I thought it had already

1035
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,920
finished.
Oh, shoot.

1036
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,360
Well, you know something, if
it's finished, you can buy the

1037
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,520
book.
Because that's the whole point

1038
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,400
of making the Kickstarter is the
bubbles of the book.

1039
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Yeah, I'm doing the quick check.
And then he also they had a

1040
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,320
release with Retrobit with Holy
Diver.

1041
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,960
So be sure to check out his
wonderful marketing stuff for

1042
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,040
retro bit and they're wonderful
products.

1043
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,920
You will not be disappointed in
the quality of either.

1044
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,360
Yeah, I think that one was a
little ways back because I've

1045
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,400
been looking into that because I
I've been now that is a game

1046
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,000
where I'm like, I do want to
check out that game, but I think

1047
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:29,720
that version was only like was
on for original hardware of

1048
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,000
which I don't own.
You don't have an NES.

1049
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,800
I do not, but I want, I want
that game.

1050
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,920
How cool, though, that they're
printing new NES cartridges in

1051
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,720
the year of our Lord 2025.
Yeah, actually we're gonna,

1052
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,080
we're gonna keep that around for
wish list things kind of.

1053
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,840
I think I may just wish list
that game specifically, yeah.

1054
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:54,360
All right, and let's jump in to
our last episode.

1055
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,600
Hey everyone, happy here with a
question about my game

1056
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,320
Crystallis.
During the game, the main

1057
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,720
character requires 4 elemental
swords.

1058
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,280
Which of the following is not
one of them?

1059
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:11,360
Sword of Earth, Sword of Flame,
Sword of Water, or Sword of

1060
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,840
Wind?
Good luck.

1061
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,160
Well, I'm going to say that the
Sword of Earth A was not in

1062
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,120
Crystallis.
I am going to agree that's I was

1063
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,000
writing that answer down before
you spoke because I felt this

1064
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,120
would be clear that you would
know this having, you know,

1065
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,480
gotten multiple swords.
Yeah, if anyone would know, it

1066
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,440
would be me, not you.
All right, let's find out.

1067
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,160
The correct answer is Sword of
Earth.

1068
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,440
That is not one of the swords
acquired.

1069
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,440
Well, you know, happening.
I I really loved our episode.

1070
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,440
It's always cool when you know,
you introduced me to that game

1071
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,680
because you picked it.
You recognize how awesome it

1072
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,000
was.
And you know, you said that you

1073
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,160
found your tribe through our
podcast and like, I, I mean so

1074
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,360
much to me that you would call
us your tribe.

1075
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,800
You are just such an easy guy to
talk to and wonderful taste in

1076
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,520
games.
And you're a devoted father and

1077
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,120
you're just a good hang.
So happening.

1078
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,960
Thank you for a wonderful final
episode of season 3.

1079
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600
I guess if you don't count this
one, you really sent us off in

1080
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,480
style.
And thank you for always being,

1081
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,520
you know, connected to us.
Means a lot.

1082
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,480
Yeah.
And I think it's one of the few

1083
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,080
ones where we've had where the
person we've had on wanted to

1084
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,480
come talk about a game that they
didn't have nostalgia to.

1085
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,320
It's just an old game they like.
Yeah, they just found a Nintendo

1086
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,080
Switch online and you know, the
rest is modern history.

1087
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,720
So cool.
The the The appeal of finding

1088
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,280
games to Nintendo Switch Online.
Why aren't they sponsoring us?

1089
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,320
Come on, come on, Nintendo,
Sponsor me.

1090
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,080
At least Mike says some weird
stuff sometimes with Sponsor me.

1091
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,480
Or alternatively, if any Ren
fairs would like to sponsor us,

1092
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,400
we're not picking on who really.
No, all right.

1093
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,520
So before I give you the scores,
I've got one final bonus

1094
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,600
question.
I knew you had something up your

1095
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,800
sleeve, Cat, I could feel it.
Here is our bonus question.

1096
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,520
Hey hey, it's Ruby yells from
Twitch.

1097
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,000
I love playing Links Awakening
with you guys so much that I

1098
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,760
wanted to ask if you've
remembered what year the game

1099
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,480
came out.
Did it come out in A 1993, B

1100
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:31,120
1998 or C2019?
I wonder if she's being clever

1101
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,240
because.
I think I have the answer here.

1102
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,760
OK, I think that the answer is D
all of the above.

1103
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,680
Well, she didn't say that, but
is that an option?

1104
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,200
She she didn't say it, but.
Because 93 would have been the

1105
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,640
original, 98 would have been the
links awakening DX that we

1106
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:58,280
played and then 2019 you sly
minx RiRi.

1107
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,920
Wow you should have.
Yeah I agree with Mike.

1108
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,480
Very clever cuz 2019 was the
switch re release.

1109
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,160
Though all right, this one was
impossible to get wrong.

1110
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,120
They were all correct.
Link's Awakening was originally

1111
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,960
released in 1993, the Game Boy
Color version came out in 1998,

1112
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,720
and the Switch remake was
released in 2019.

1113
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,280
I like that.
A twist right at the end.

1114
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,280
Well, Kat, you have our scores,
do you not?

1115
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:33,600
I think I'm going to be excited.
I do so with a grand total of

1116
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,640
13.
Mike came in second place and

1117
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,120
Jeremy pulled out 17.
With that, slightly better.

1118
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,840
List.
Oh, that's not slightly.

1119
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,520
Characters.
No.

1120
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,040
The slightly better list of
characters helped you get that

1121
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,840
lead, as well as getting a
couple more questions right.

1122
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,240
Oh right, puts the end there it.
Wasn't for the questions you got

1123
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,120
right.
I would have won this.

1124
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,640
Yeah, so I'm like teaching would
be great with if it weren't for

1125
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,800
the kids like.
This job would be great if it

1126
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,800
wasn't for the customers.
Exactly.

1127
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,040
Is that Clerks?
Yeah.

1128
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Yeah.
Well, that is so fun.

1129
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,640
Thank you, everybody who
contributed to that wonderful

1130
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:21,440
game and this wonderful season.
And we would be remiss to not

1131
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,200
shout out the people who were
also on the show and, you know,

1132
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,640
didn't have a guest house
question.

1133
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,520
But Colleen, if you're
listening, it was so wonderful

1134
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,120
to connect with you.
You shared so many anecdotes

1135
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,560
about pilot Wings, you know, the
connection you had through your

1136
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,600
family.
And, you know, we got to do

1137
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,720
that.
Pass the controller multiplayer

1138
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,160
or we, you know, tried to create
a crash scenario and then pass

1139
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,160
the controller to Mike and see
if you could salvage it.

1140
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,080
It was just it was just so fun.
So it's such a good time.

1141
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,800
So Colleen, you're the best.
And then we had the Kid at Grass

1142
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,240
episode with Josh from the Still
loading podcast and Dexter, who

1143
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,160
have done a lot of Captain and
stuff, which really was just an

1144
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,960
excuse to have a captain and
episode that.

1145
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,920
And then accidentally, we talked
about Captain and on like three

1146
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,760
other episodes this season,
which was I don't think ever my

1147
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,320
doing.
Yeah.

1148
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,200
Like other people made it happen
and I was just on board for it

1149
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,720
every time.
It's Jamo died a little inside

1150
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,840
each time.
Well, you know, what makes me

1151
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,440
the opposite of dying inside is
Dempsey.

1152
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,800
And coming on to talk about
Super Mario World.

1153
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,760
I, I had mixed feelings because
there was a moment there where

1154
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,240
we were going to try to do our
games out of or, or in order of

1155
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,000
release.
But you brought so much

1156
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:40,400
enthusiasm for Super Mario World
and you had such an academic

1157
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,080
take on it.
So the Overthinking Games

1158
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,520
podcast is, you know, your deal.
And I don't think you overthink

1159
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,800
anything.
I think you think of things

1160
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,040
exactly the right amount.
And I appreciate you bringing

1161
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,120
your font of knowledge or fount
fount of knowledge font of

1162
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,840
knowledge.
Anyway, it was a great episode.

1163
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,640
Thank you for everything you
brought to it.

1164
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,920
Solid line of guests.
Super solid beyond solid Rock

1165
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:11,040
hard Kat, you are so wonderful.
This is this is a lot of work

1166
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,160
putting this show together and
particularly this episode with

1167
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,120
all the glitches and file
organization.

1168
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,160
And so I just want to say thank
you and that I appreciate you.

1169
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,080
Yeah.
It's one of those things that

1170
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,040
I've no idea why it didn't work.
I've tested it last night and it

1171
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,360
worked fine, so.
I'm gonna cut out the parts that

1172
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,080
didn't work, so don't apologize
for that.

1173
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,760
That's the magic of editing.
You did wonderful.

1174
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,800
We have glitches, but hey, that
is how things work.

1175
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,160
Yeah, that's life, right?
It's learning to dance through

1176
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,240
the glitches.
And this time she did much

1177
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,000
better, not laughing loud
enough.

1178
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,280
I heard it from a different
room.

1179
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,520
Knowing a couple of those were
coming up, I'm like, I'm looking

1180
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,920
forward to seeing their
reactions to these.

1181
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,640
And Kat people should check out
your YouTube channel, Kat

1182
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,200
Console.
Looks like you're working on

1183
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,520
something right now.
Do you have any projects you're

1184
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,680
going to be unveiling in late
October?

1185
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,600
No, I'm just I'm solidly trying
to work on getting some finishes

1186
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,960
at the moment and mostly in
October I'm going to be working

1187
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,640
on a couple of secret projects.
If cross stitching is your

1188
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,080
thing, be sure to check out her
YouTube channel, Kat Can Sew.

1189
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,440
Kat Can Sew, SEW.
Yes.

1190
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:32,040
And then hopefully some point by
the end of the year I will have

1191
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,000
my streaming set up.
Oh, you got a Twitch stream

1192
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,040
cross stitch?
No I'm going to twitch stream

1193
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:43,160
gaming because I have games that
I want to try and play but I

1194
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,600
need help because I'm bad.
At it.

1195
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,400
Yeah, so she and RiRi were
talking about the if she plays

1196
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,240
Zelda games, that RiRi can come
in and guide on that.

1197
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,000
Well you you gals should do the
feature where you're playing

1198
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,280
together and if you play
together on switch you could

1199
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,840
pass her the controller the
parts you get stuck at.

1200
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,320
That would be so fun to watch.
Or I just have people tell me

1201
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,320
how to get through things.
That too.

1202
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,040
We're looking forward to seeing
that.

1203
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,680
I, I still need to set up my, my
space for doing that.

1204
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,680
So it's probably going to be
towards the end of the year.

1205
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,680
Awesome.
Well, thank you for being here,

1206
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,840
Kat.
You're awesome.

1207
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,319
You're welcome, and I'm gonna
let you guys finish the rest of

1208
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:29,720
your episode.
So Ciao, goodbye.

1209
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,520
Or whatever they say in
Australia, Good, good day.

1210
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,319
Is that offensive?
Do they say good day?

1211
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:38,040
Is that a real thing?
That basically means hello.

1212
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:43,880
And as somebody who says this a
lot at work, it's just because

1213
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,880
it's the way we say good day.
Yeah, that if I'm not thinking

1214
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,319
about it, I do drop into good
day and good night.

1215
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,520
Good night, Good night, Cat.
Ciao all.

1216
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,880
Right Mike, we played a lot of
great games and a couple of not

1217
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,040
so great games this season.
So I want to try to do my annual

1218
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,920
speed run through all the
titles.

1219
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,279
How fast can I say all 24 games
from season 3?

1220
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,800
Last season I did 30 games in
13.2 seconds, which means to

1221
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:15,520
beat my record I will need to do
all 24 games in 10.6 seconds.

1222
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,399
I don't, I don't think it's
possible with these titles.

1223
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:21,760
Mike, what do you think?
You know I'll be agreeable.

1224
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,880
I'll say you can't do it either.
Some of these titles are long

1225
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,120
and I was struggling to shorten
them down, so let's give it a

1226
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,240
try.
I hope I don't embarrass myself.

1227
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:41,880
Here we go, 321.
This is not the right list.

1228
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:43,680
This is not the right list, is
it?

1229
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,319
No.
What happened?

1230
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,800
Okay, you know what?
You know in Mario Kart when

1231
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,479
you're like about to start a
race and you hit the gas too

1232
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,400
soon and you just shoot smoke
everywhere?

1233
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,120
False.
I was gonna say this is a lot

1234
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,320
closer when you realize you've
been watching the wrong screen

1235
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,120
for about the 1st 10 seconds of
a race.

1236
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,600
That is a good analogy.
Okay, can I try again?

1237
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,080
I mean, yeah.
For those who were confused,

1238
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,960
that was the list from season 2
and I was doing really well.

1239
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,840
Dang it.
OK, now the wrong titles are my

1240
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,840
brain.
This is a nightmare.

1241
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,320
OK, 10.2 seconds.
Can I beat it?

1242
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:22,320
Here we go and let's win my
party for Metro, Metro 2,

1243
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,920
Venice, Super Mario Two, Blast,
Chord, Cougal and Mega Man.

1244
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,440
The weather was goose and goose
and goose and crystallis.

1245
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,000
Oh my God, I don't even know if
I said some of those 11.1.

1246
01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:39,160
I'm not mad about that.
I I gave it my best shot.

1247
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,280
I tried my best.
Well, Mike.

1248
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,960
So let's get on to the next
segment of our finale, the old

1249
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,640
Switcher Rooney's, where we give
a shout out to the superstars

1250
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:55,160
and Nintendo duds of Season 3,
starting off with the Titanfall

1251
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,760
Award for most underrated game.
Which one are you going with,

1252
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,720
Mike?
I mean, I feel like there's only

1253
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,480
one of these that really fits
the bill as most underrated.

1254
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,640
OK, it's clearly Kung Fu heroes.
You're.

1255
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,080
Kidding.
It's most underrated, not best,

1256
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,800
and I think that that one is
underrated.

1257
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,400
Because people hate it.
And you had fun with it.

1258
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,400
Yeah.
OK, OK.

1259
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,200
I get what you're saying.
If this if, if the floor is so

1260
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,520
low.
Yeah.

1261
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,000
Yeah.
All right.

1262
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:25,840
Well, I I went a different
approach to games that people

1263
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,720
actually like, which is
Crystallis.

1264
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,240
I'm blown away that I didn't
know that game existed for how

1265
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,080
much I liked it.
And, you know, I think it has

1266
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,440
this really cool premise.
I think time did this game dirty

1267
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,480
as it did the protagonist of the
story itself.

1268
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:46,400
So Cristalis Hapney's right,
that game so cool.

1269
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,880
My most underrated game.
How about next category, the

1270
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,760
Paul Rudd Award for a game
that's aged beautifully.

1271
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,720
I.
Think I've got to go ghouls and

1272
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,280
ghosts.
Really.

1273
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,600
Yeah, OK.
What what what strikes you about

1274
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,320
the presentation in that one?
I like how it looks.

1275
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,640
I like how it moves.
I like how it feels.

1276
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,560
It is one that does not to me,
feel dated.

1277
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,080
It's not one that you're
playing.

1278
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,000
You're like, oh, well, yeah.
They were limited by what they

1279
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,960
could do here.
Yeah, I went with Super Mario

1280
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,720
Advance 2 on the Gameboy
Advance, which if you recall is

1281
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,840
actually Super Mario World.
But it's the Game Boy Advance

1282
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,040
port that has all those
wonderful quality of life

1283
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,920
features, you know, such as the,
you know, saving more often and

1284
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,840
having the how many special
coins am I still looking for?

1285
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,800
And, you know, that game just
visually it's just peak Mario 2D

1286
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,280
Sprite work.
And then you combine that with

1287
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,320
modern functionality, Super
Mario Advance 2, I think the

1288
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,560
definitive way to play that
game, and I think it has aged

1289
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,400
wonderfully.
Plus then you get to hear Mario

1290
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:55,800
every time you die or get a
power up or whatever.

1291
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,560
Yeah, it's got the voice acting.
Yeah, the thing that everybody

1292
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,440
thought was missing.
Well, something that no one

1293
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:05,440
thought was missing is the
Wadham Award for weirdest and

1294
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:09,600
wackiest game Mike, which one
made left you scratching your

1295
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,720
head.
I think the one that struck me

1296
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,920
just like this is such a weird
angle to go for is cuckoo land.

1297
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,440
Yeah, yeah.
Just that that control approach

1298
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:24,280
is really unique and it takes a
while to get the hang of.

1299
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,480
Some would say I never did, but
I do appreciate that that that's

1300
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:33,480
very much a what if we do
something fairly fundamentally

1301
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:36,360
different.
I almost picked that because

1302
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,600
I've never controlled a game in
quite that way.

1303
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,080
I didn't like it but got to give
it to it.

1304
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,240
It's super weird.
I I went with Kid Icarus on this

1305
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,880
one.
Like, there were so many little

1306
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,400
wacky touches in that game, and,
you know, even beyond the

1307
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,000
infamous eggplant wizard that
turns you into a aubergine with

1308
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,320
uncomfortably sexy legs, you got
it.

1309
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,680
The credit card power up that
puts you into debt.

1310
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,920
There's like Metroids in that
game, there's Rolling Stones

1311
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,920
references.
I'm just really grateful for the

1312
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,720
devs who fought to keep the
weirdness in that game because I

1313
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,200
think that's what makes it so
iconic.

1314
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,120
How about the Skies of Arcadia
award for most In need of a

1315
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,520
reboot or a remaster?
I want crystallis on that.

1316
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,080
OK because I feel like that game
still played pretty well.

1317
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,960
What would you what would you
spruce up if you re release that

1318
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,760
game?
Better hit boxes and more

1319
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,400
buttons.
Yeah, yeah, something beyond A2

1320
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,520
button NES controller would have
done wonders.

1321
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,760
Yeah, like that's where it's
just like there's a game

1322
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,320
mechanic thing here where I'm
like, if you just had further

1323
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,840
technology to do this, like I
don't, I don't need the graphics

1324
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:49,040
to change maybe a little bit in
there to give some direction or

1325
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,360
to clear up triggers so that
that's a little bit less opaque.

1326
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,000
You saw goodness there.
It was just kind of

1327
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,880
inaccessible.
Yeah, there's a there's enough

1328
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,920
show stoppers, but I'm like
these, many of them were like

1329
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,880
this could be fixed.
I went with Fantasy Star Four.

1330
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,040
I think that game I had some of
the highest highs of the season.

1331
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,280
The story moved me so much.
I just adored the world

1332
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,520
building, the epic boss battles.
But like, that was the game

1333
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,360
where all of the attack and item
descriptions are so shortened

1334
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,120
and truncated that we made an
entire mini game minute trying

1335
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,120
to guess what it meant.
So, and that was also the game,

1336
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,080
you know, with no auto save and
the part where you would like

1337
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,160
veer around objects when you're
trying to interact with them.

1338
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:38,080
It's just fantastic game.
If you can get past, I'm going

1339
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,600
to say the user interface.
So that would be my choice for

1340
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,600
something that could use a glow
up illumination award for the

1341
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,000
game that would make a hit
movie.

1342
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,960
I think I know yours.
Go ahead.

1343
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,720
Ninja Gaiden, Yeah.
Obviously.

1344
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,960
But I know that though, because
you went on a podcast recently

1345
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,280
and talked about it.
I did talk about it over there.

1346
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,240
Yeah, super wall jump.
Yeah, Super Wall Jump, which is

1347
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,400
new podcast, so their second
episode, their first episode's

1348
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,800
also a fun one.
But yeah, no, I mean, we talked

1349
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,720
about it a little bit in that in
our episode of that too, of

1350
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,040
like, why is this not a movie?
Yeah, given them the video games

1351
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,920
that got movies.
I'm like this one already has

1352
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,840
it.
It remains the only game that I

1353
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,840
sought out all of the remaining
story scenes from the part I

1354
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,600
didn't see, rather than the
gameplay I didn't see.

1355
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,640
And even it had, you know, it
was kind of the creation of the

1356
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,640
modern cutscene.
And, you know, they called it

1357
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,800
like, Namco theater mode or not.
Not Namco, the company that made

1358
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,560
it, Tecmo.
No, not Tecmo.

1359
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,800
Oh, this is getting
embarrassing.

1360
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,280
Anyway, they had a special
theater mode just for the

1361
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,920
cutscenes.
My choice was Blast Core.

1362
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,480
I think that, you know, you get
Fast and Furious style, like,

1363
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:55,440
you know, nail biting chases and
you're crashing through

1364
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:58,880
buildings.
But what I think makes that game

1365
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,680
potentially a really cool movie
is that it's not gory.

1366
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,680
You know, you can blow up a lot
of stuff on screen and keep that

1367
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:11,680
PG or PG13 rating, but I can't
get this image out of my head.

1368
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,040
So the premise, if you guys
didn't listen to that episode

1369
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,680
and you should, was that, you
know, there's this runaway

1370
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,520
nuclear carrier and you are
demolishing buildings to create

1371
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,400
a safe path for it so we can get
to a safe detonation site.

1372
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,800
And so obviously you introduce
like, you know, terrorist

1373
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,880
characters who are trying to set
off the bomb and then you got,

1374
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,640
you know, your protagonist
fighting on top of the carrier.

1375
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,560
But you remember the sideswipe.
That's the vehicle that Nate

1376
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,840
made fun of in his question
where it just has the Pistons

1377
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,280
that shoot out on the left and
right side of the vehicle.

1378
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:46,120
I can't stop picturing 2 baddies
driving up on each side of that

1379
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,600
thing and then just hit it and
just knock them off the bridge,

1380
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,600
you know what I mean?
On each side of them.

1381
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,840
That's the money shot.
Blast Corps movie.

1382
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:53,680
Let's make it.
Happen.

1383
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,440
I like the idea of the
director's cut being or the

1384
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:59,280
after credits being them going
back and just leveling the rest

1385
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,920
of the city just for like the
achievements.

1386
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,040
The high score, Yeah, that would
be hilarious.

1387
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,720
That would be incredible.
See Blast score the movie.

1388
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,800
So let's go on to a new
category, the 12:26 award for

1389
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,080
best boxing.
Do you get my reference?

1390
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,080
Yes, it is a Boxing Day
reference.

1391
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,400
Yeah, awesome.
So Mike, I think you and I have

1392
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,040
the same one.
I want to my mind.

1393
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,120
Is your mind.
OK?

1394
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,480
Ready.
I mean, I don't, I don't know

1395
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:28,080
what you think this is going to
be.

1396
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,200
OK, well let's let's let's see.
Let's see.

1397
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:34,320
OK.
So 3 and then go ready or 321

1398
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,120
and then.
On three.

1399
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,960
It's always faster on three. 321
gore and ghost.

1400
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,320
Whoops.
OK, never mind Mike, you hate

1401
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,280
the Mario Party cover.
Honestly, when I looked at all

1402
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,280
of these, I I really don't like
the three, the like the I don't

1403
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,480
like the dice, the dice box
there.

1404
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,560
And but I'm kind of like, you
know, if this hadn't been

1405
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,200
successful, like sales wise, if
it hadn't gotten it's become a

1406
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,960
franchise and that was it.
That wouldn't be a problem.

1407
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,160
And when looking at all the
boxer at once in that context,

1408
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,880
it jumped out at me more than I
expected it.

1409
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Like I was a bit surprised as
well.

1410
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,400
When I'm looking at it, what
would I pick?

1411
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,240
I'm like, I do kind of feel like
I'm at that at that one.

1412
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,760
Yeah, it's good.
You know, it's got the 3D, you

1413
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,600
know, representation of Mario.
It's all very polygonal.

1414
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,120
It looks it's super N64 era.
I'm I'm not mad at that.

1415
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,280
Well, you and I just both agreed
the ghouls and ghosts cover.

1416
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,360
I mean, that's that's second or
third place, right?

1417
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,680
Yeah, definitely did consider.
Weirdly.

1418
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:42,800
Also, I found my In a sea of box
art, Pilot Wings stands out in a

1419
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,320
way that was surprising.
The simplicity of just the word.

1420
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,720
Yeah, like you just have to look
at it.

1421
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,520
It's like, what the heck?
But if it's like it's the only

1422
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,800
one, it's like it does.
It feels different.

1423
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,040
But Golden Ghost was the other
one that I was looking at.

1424
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,360
OK, so I wasn't that far.
Off I I did switch away from it,

1425
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,160
but it it wasn't a runaway
decision.

1426
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:04,080
Gotcha.
Yeah, that's that's just such a

1427
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,240
cool illumination to the design.
And then the depiction of the

1428
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,680
first boss in the background
looming over Arthur.

1429
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,520
So epic.
I just loved it as a kid.

1430
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,520
I love it today.
So this next category, it's

1431
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,360
really just for Mike because
Mike, in addition to working

1432
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,120
really hard on the audio editing
and lately the video editing of

1433
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,800
this podcast, he also reads the
manuals before he plays the

1434
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,720
games.
So I was curious.

1435
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,840
The Pro Skater 2 award for best
manual cable club.

1436
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:32,840
You get the joke.
Yeah.

1437
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,760
But can I redeem myself?
I know which one you're going to

1438
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,960
say.
All right.

1439
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:43,200
OK, same thing. 321, here we go.
OK, 321-F.

1440
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,760
Zero, yeah.
What makes it so good, Mike?

1441
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,720
It's straight up has is
partially a comic.

1442
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,720
Yeah, and.
Like one of the things that

1443
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,760
comes up with a lot of these is
to the extent that the manuals

1444
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,640
do world building that games
couldn't do.

1445
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,200
And F0 kind of really goes above
and beyond that.

1446
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,800
It's not just the stories and
the descriptions and getting a

1447
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,600
feel for the characters like it
is literally several pages of

1448
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,400
comic.
And and they didn't need to do

1449
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,000
that for you to understand how
to play the game.

1450
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,640
But that was like Chico's
favorite part is all the

1451
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,760
elaborate back story.
Yeah.

1452
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,880
I mean, and to be fair, like
even with that, they still have

1453
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,480
also like the standard things of
like here's characters and

1454
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:29,040
here's the ships also like they
had all of that end the comic.

1455
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,040
That wasn't even as though the
comic was just the way they

1456
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,960
decided to do it.
Yeah, it's really beautiful.

1457
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,800
And you know, I think it's one
of the things that is

1458
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,120
underappreciated when you talk
about retro games, is this whole

1459
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:45,200
other production that sometimes
is really cool like that.

1460
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,680
So awesome.
Let's get into the Nintendo

1461
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,880
awards.
We are giving this to the bottom

1462
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,480
three games of Season 2, and
we're going to go back and forth

1463
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:58,800
starting with my third worst
game, or third from the bottom,

1464
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,640
I guess you would say on my own
personal rankings.

1465
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,240
This one was interesting because
I was so mad at Super Ghouls and

1466
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,680
Ghosts being such a step down
from Ghouls and Ghosts that this

1467
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,520
was that was originally my #3.
But in listening to our own

1468
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,040
episode where Cyril was
defending it, I felt myself

1469
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,200
softened to the game.
And it was I think the first

1470
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:25,840
time I can think of where our
own content changed my opinion

1471
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,760
later down the road.
So I have to say it's Ghosts and

1472
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,680
Goblins because as frustrating
as Super Ghouls and Ghosts was

1473
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,920
with the double jumping and just
the no checkpoints before a

1474
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,720
boss, it was just so unpleasant
much of the time.

1475
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,680
I still in my mind fondly look
back to the presentation and

1476
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,280
Ghosts and Goblins.
I just didn't really enjoy the

1477
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,560
gameplay or the presentation.
What was your third from the

1478
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,840
bottom?
I'm going to preface this whole

1479
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:01,200
thing with my approach towards
evaluation is sort of how much

1480
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,920
do I feel I'm getting out of
something?

1481
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,760
Sure.
And so it's a if I don't feel

1482
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,080
like I'm getting something out
out of it, it falls into not

1483
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,960
good.
And this was certainly also a

1484
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,360
very competitive season in the
sense that we had a lot of games

1485
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,560
that are, if not we think are
good or at least thought of as

1486
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,360
good.
Yeah.

1487
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:27,200
So we don't have a whole lot of
bad forgotten games.

1488
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,680
Right.
So my third worst pick is Mega

1489
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:36,200
Man.
Whoa, wow.

1490
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,960
OK.
I never got into it and never

1491
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,960
like even the the one time I
beat a boss it didn't feel fun

1492
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,320
to me.
It just it it never something

1493
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,400
about it, just it never clicked
in a way.

1494
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,480
Yeah, yeah, You never got to the
point where you're like, I'm

1495
01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:55,480
having fun doing this and I want
to keep doing.

1496
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:57,640
This correct?
Yeah, OK.

1497
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,040
I mean, you know, it's valid.
It's it's almost at that level

1498
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,280
where it's like some types of
food you're just not gonna like.

1499
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,400
And it doesn't necessarily mean
that there's no value to it, but

1500
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,800
for you, you would not.
Take another Yeah, it's like how

1501
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,040
some people have have that have
that specific gene where

1502
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,960
cilantro tastes like soap.
I have the specific gene where

1503
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,560
Mega Man is not fun apparently.
Mega Man tastes like Link 2 or

1504
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,160
is a venture link for you?
Well, so then my second from the

1505
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:29,440
bottom is Kung Fu Heroes.
That game, you know, it was so

1506
01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:32,920
fun getting to play with one of
my comedy heroes, but the game

1507
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,280
was just not very good.
That hit detection was just

1508
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,040
awful.
And the fact that you need to

1509
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,400
get specific items to progress
in the game, but there's no

1510
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,840
indication of where they are
when you should get them.

1511
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,160
And arbitrary things like
needing to collect ammunition so

1512
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,840
you can do a kick.
It's just the game defies logic

1513
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,680
and it defies fun and it's just
bad.

1514
01:24:56,480 --> 01:25:00,120
So.
But, you know, cilantro mouth

1515
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,040
over here, you kind of like Kung
Fu heroes.

1516
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,320
Yeah.
So what's your second from the

1517
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,280
bottom?
Continuing that hit detection

1518
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,000
problem.
No.

1519
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:11,080
Oh no.
Crystallis.

1520
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:16,880
No, Mike.
And I and it be again, kind of

1521
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,000
became like even with the
finding out where I'd gotten

1522
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,680
stuck due to bad guidance out of
that, like I didn't go back

1523
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,640
because there there was just so
much about mostly control

1524
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,840
interface and some of those
things where I'm like, there's a

1525
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,640
core here, but the the problems
were such large problems for me.

1526
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,840
The moment you said hit
detection, I was like, Oh no, I

1527
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,320
know what he's about to say.
And I think it says something

1528
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,040
that I could just be like, oh,
it hit detection problems and

1529
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,520
you're like, right.
But no, you can't pick that.

1530
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,160
OK, so we might have the same
bottom game then I.

1531
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,880
Don't think we do.
OK, I mean, third time's a

1532
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:54,560
charm.
Or Nah.

1533
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,080
No, no, no, go ahead to your
yours because I, I have no idea

1534
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,800
where yours is going to be.
I look, I just, I don't think

1535
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,600
the game works.
And it's not to say that it's

1536
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:11,800
buggy, but I think it just never
in any moment achieves a game's

1537
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,520
most important goal, which is to
be fun.

1538
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,080
So clue, clue land.
Sorry, Bubbles.

1539
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,120
Listen, I'm a real feminist, OK?
I'm not going to say that you

1540
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,840
accomplished something if you
did, except what I just much

1541
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,600
love to the, you know,
character.

1542
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:32,960
But the idea of flying around
and grabbing these signposts to

1543
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,040
turn novel concept.
But I just think there's a

1544
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,560
reason that pretty much games
never really did this again.

1545
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,280
I guess King of Swing but that
game controls so differently

1546
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,120
it's hard to say it's the same
mechanic.

1547
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,160
So sorry Andrew, but clue Clue
and is my bottom of season 3.

1548
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,760
What's yours?
Super ghosts and ghosts.

1549
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,280
Yeah, OK, Yeah, you really hated
that game.

1550
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,960
Yeah, and I feel it's worth
noting, like since I played all

1551
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,680
these on stream, people can go
and see how not having a good

1552
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,240
time.
I am on all three of those.

1553
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,200
Yeah, that's fair.
There's you.

1554
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,600
You have the receipts.
Yeah, yeah.

1555
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,320
And it's not it.
This isn't like I played 5

1556
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,120
minutes and got fed up, like an
hour or an hour and a half to

1557
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:19,200
which I never reached the boss.
And the other two were probably

1558
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:24,040
closer to two to three hours,
maybe a bit more than that.

1559
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,600
Mega Man, because Mega Man, I
tried every boss on each of the

1560
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,280
first 3.
Kudos to you.

1561
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,720
That's a lot of tries.
Yeah, it's a lot, a lot of

1562
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,160
failure I hadn't gotten.
To grad school, I would never

1563
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,200
been prepared for that.
Well, Doctor Lund, I think

1564
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,720
you're more successful than you
let on.

1565
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,600
How about we?
Transition to the successes of

1566
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,240
the season, our Superstar Awards
for the top three games.

1567
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,840
Third choice for me is a modern
game, F-099.

1568
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,640
I just think that game is so
generous, it's so feature rich,

1569
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,320
it's free to play.
But just the premise of we're

1570
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,800
going to take the Super Nintendo
game and we're going to make it

1571
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,800
with 98 other online players.
And you'd never know it, but the

1572
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,920
game, it runs so smoothly.
It's just like, I can't think of

1573
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,080
a single thing that that game
should have done differently.

1574
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,440
So kudos to you, Nintendo, for
supporting that game for so

1575
01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:14,080
long.
And whoever thought of the idea?

1576
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,560
Chef's kiss F-099, What's your
third place?

1577
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,520
Mario Super Pick Cross.
OK.

1578
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,440
Yes, yes, this is your kind of.
Game, yes.

1579
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,600
The and you, you had played
these kind of games before, you

1580
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,280
just didn't know there was a.
Name for it.

1581
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,360
I played them before, I didn't
know that Pick Cross was

1582
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,560
actually a brand name.
But you said Mario super pic

1583
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,200
cross but didn't you like the
Game Boy one more I.

1584
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,920
In ended up enjoying both.
There's a lot more in.

1585
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,480
Mario Super Pic Cross and with
that one, it's faster to get to

1586
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:44,200
the Wario mode that I prefer
more.

1587
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,520
Sure, the graphics were
initially a problem, but I was

1588
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,120
able to change settings that
displayed better on my TV, which

1589
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,560
was a weird customization thing
that I was not actually

1590
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,560
expecting.
But yeah, no, that's I still

1591
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,560
haven't beaten the Wario side of
that, but you're going to go

1592
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,800
back to it.
I imagine I probably will at

1593
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,280
some point.
It's more that that's

1594
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,800
definitely.
A those kind of games are very

1595
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,200
much like second screen kind of
games.

1596
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,120
And so instead I've just dropped
like 100 hours into a different

1597
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,160
game of this style on my
computer because I can be

1598
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,280
playing that while watching TV
for sure.

1599
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,600
For sure Elbow again, Mike, you
can lift your Switch out of that

1600
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,480
dock.
No, I, I, I treat switches like

1601
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,280
the Queen Mary.
It's like, yeah, technically

1602
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,320
that can leave.
But it stays in dock.

1603
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,480
Wow, that was.
Did you have that ready or did

1604
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:35,320
you think of that just now?
Just now.

1605
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,040
Wow, well done.
Well, Speaking of well.

1606
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:39,880
Done.
Second favorite?

1607
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,880
Game for me.
Honorable mentioned the Ninja

1608
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,320
Gaiden, but it narrowly lost out
to Lynx Awakening.

1609
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:50,040
I think that that game being a
Game Boy Color game, it's so

1610
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,520
impressive how fun it was.
But what really pushes it over

1611
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:58,120
the edge for me is the setting,
and particularly the dreamlike

1612
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,520
setting combined with the Mario
characters.

1613
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,920
It made the whole thing feel
like I was in like this Nintendo

1614
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,960
theme park decades before that
was actually possible.

1615
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,880
You know, So seeing like the
chain chomps and the Goombas and

1616
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,120
the little side scrolling
sections, Link's Awakening just

1617
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,640
feels magical.
And so I was surprised because I

1618
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,000
think Ocarina of Time is
probably regarded as the

1619
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,880
superior Zelda game.
But Link's Awakening, I'm a top

1620
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,840
down boy.
I'm just, I'm a top down Zelda

1621
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,880
boy.
And Link's Awakening is my #2

1622
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,240
what about you?
Of those two that I would that's

1623
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,200
that is the one I would take
Link's Awakening.

1624
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:34,880
I would take awakening over
Ocarina time.

1625
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,000
Cool.
OK, So what was your second?

1626
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,040
Place.
Mine was Super Mario World.

1627
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,160
Oh, you're not a platformer guy
though.

1628
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,760
Not generally I I think or.
I'd say not generally I.

1629
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,560
Think that has enough to it that
it becomes it doesn't feel like

1630
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,480
it's usually about how precisely
can you do this specific

1631
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:58,720
platforming and certainly, I
guess technically speaking that

1632
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:04,080
I really mean whatever stupid
and Super Mario Advance Super

1633
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,120
Mario World Super Mario Advance
2.

1634
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,720
Yes, that one.
Really.

1635
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,920
I mean that because with that.
Sort of checkpointing.

1636
01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:15,880
Not being great, you can still
push through it.

1637
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,080
Could have done that right the
first time, like we talked

1638
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,200
about, like Ninja Gaiden did
that right right out of the

1639
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,480
gate.
But with that to the point where

1640
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:25,320
it's like if I just kind of just
have to get through this bit

1641
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,200
once and I'm kind of locked in
it.

1642
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,320
Good.
You made it.

1643
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,280
Like I don't think I would be
able to push through it and go

1644
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,920
back to it enough if I wasn't
having enough fun to it.

1645
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:40,320
And I kind of at a certain point
did the quick rush to, OK, let's

1646
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,560
just beat this game, which also
was doable, which is a nice

1647
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,360
point.
But the ability to go back and

1648
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,120
find additional exits out of
stuff and that kind of

1649
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,800
exploration is neat.
Like, I didn't do much of it

1650
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,440
just for time's sake, but like,
I like that that's there.

1651
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,680
It was fun to stumble upon a few
of them and be like, hey, wait a

1652
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,880
minute, that's a thing.
Yeah.

1653
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,720
It also gives you a different
path to the level.

1654
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,960
So in theory, if something is
really challenging, there might.

1655
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,360
Be another way to go.
Yeah, turns out that that there

1656
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,040
what the part in the regular
levels that I got stuck at,

1657
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,400
that's exactly what.
Was happening.

1658
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,240
There was another way to go that
I didn't realize that's sweet.

1659
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:17,160
I'm I'm I'm glad you like it so
much so my number one game.

1660
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,880
I was kind of surprised.
That and I think nostalgia

1661
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,320
glasses are really influencing
this decision.

1662
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:28,360
But Ghouls and Ghosts on the
Sega Genesis, it is so good.

1663
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:34,080
The aesthetic is so imaginative.
The bosses are so frightening.

1664
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:39,080
The ability to shoot up and down
South rapidly is so satisfying.

1665
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,160
And, you know, it's a game
that's known for being

1666
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,040
notoriously hard, but it's also
one of the few games that I beat

1667
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,680
without cheating, without having
to rewind.

1668
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,960
And that includes going back
through the game a second time.

1669
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,680
And I was just like, even when I
was dying, I was like, this is

1670
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,840
so fun.
And I can't wait to try that

1671
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,440
spot again.
And then, you know, because I

1672
01:32:57,480 --> 01:33:00,760
think I think you can kind of
naturally progress through that

1673
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,720
game in a way that a lot of
platformers of that era, you

1674
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,760
sort of get locked out by like
an overly challenging bit.

1675
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:13,760
So I just love this game.
It's it's my kind of dark horse

1676
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,160
number one pick for Season 3.
What was yours?

1677
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,360
Ghouls and ghosts.
Whoa, yes, really.

1678
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,560
Is there anything that you?
Like that I didn't already

1679
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,600
mention.
I don't think so.

1680
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,240
I think it it just, I think it
looks good.

1681
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,920
I think it plays.
Well, I think it there's a good

1682
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,360
feel to it.
I like that I can kill the

1683
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:36,040
stupid zombies as they're coming
into the thing rather than

1684
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,080
having them appear in a box and
have to wait for that.

1685
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,560
So yeah, like there there's a
lot that I.

1686
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,600
It's I just, I had I had fun
with it.

1687
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,560
Absolutely.
Oh I wish we did the 321

1688
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,000
countdown thing.
That would have been perfect.

1689
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:54,040
Well, so then it's official.
The Breath of the Wild award for

1690
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,880
season 3 is Ghouls and Ghosts.
Mike and I have a rare moment of

1691
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,600
agreement, but go to our
Discord, join up on our Discord,

1692
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,720
and don't forget to hit that
like button and vote on the

1693
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,280
Virtual Boy award for the worst
game of Season 2 or Season 3.

1694
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,960
Excuse me?
We might have to rename that now

1695
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,760
that they're bringing that to
me, right?

1696
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,640
That's going to get confusing.
In I imagine season 4, we'll

1697
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,080
see.
But anyway, what do you think is

1698
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,160
the worst game?
Clue Clue Lander Super ghouls

1699
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,680
and ghouls.
I'm feeling pretty good about my

1700
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:26,000
odds on this one.
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm not seeing

1701
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,200
that vote going in agreement
with me.

1702
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,160
Or, you know, if it's one that
neither of us picked as the

1703
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,960
worst, feel free to let us know.
Yeah, that won't be on the

1704
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,920
choices, but I'm curious.
Yeah.

1705
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:37,920
Yeah.
Good call.

1706
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,120
Good call.
Okay, Mike, so that was fun.

1707
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,000
Another old Switcher Roonies in
the bag.

1708
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,520
Well, so let's go ahead and wrap
up the episode here by doing our

1709
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:50,880
Nintendo official Switch list
for season 3.

1710
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,920
Things that we are hoping come
to Nintendo Switch Online slash

1711
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,400
Nintendo classics.
Other than hoping for a better

1712
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:01,760
name for the whole thing, Mike,
what are you hoping comes to the

1713
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,280
service?
Well, now I'm going to start off

1714
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,840
with briefly.
Holy diver.

1715
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,000
I would like that now because
that's a game we now know exists

1716
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,040
Yeah shout out to Cyril.
That game sounds amazing.

1717
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,760
He helped re release that with
Retrobit.

1718
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:16,680
Yeah.
So it's like.

1719
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,400
I would like that on something
that I can play, but yeah,

1720
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,600
beyond that, I.
Think the first one I'm going to

1721
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:26,800
say is SP mode on more games,
especially multiplayer games

1722
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,280
where things are locked behind
beating stuff in single player.

1723
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,920
Yeah, 100% of my offer to get a
tattoo still stands.

1724
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,320
Nintendo, if you're listening.
Bring back SP mode for Nintendo

1725
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:42,600
Switch online slash classics and
let us play these games at

1726
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:47,000
maximum fun because we're your
audience is adults now.

1727
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,200
The people who played in 64 are
adults now.

1728
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,400
Meet us where we're at,
Nintendo.

1729
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:56,640
That and like a bunch of those
were when you just had the game,

1730
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,720
you had a ton.
Of time to beat it so that you

1731
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,040
could then get to the cool
things.

1732
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:04,360
Yeah, you.
You're giving us over 300 games.

1733
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,000
I have many options if I just
want to play something.

1734
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:10,680
Let me get to the part I want to
play.

1735
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,120
Mike and I both have switch twos
now and so.

1736
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,920
Mike, I'm not sure if you've
seen the rumor or kind of fan

1737
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:23,560
mock up of the Nintendo DS
peripheral that they could

1738
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,120
release for the Switch 2,
because the Switch 2 has a USBC

1739
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:31,520
port in the top and the bottom.
So you could release a foldable

1740
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,560
second screen that plugs into
that top USBC port.

1741
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:37,840
And granted, you'd, you know,
probably have to play it in

1742
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,400
handheld mode, but that'd be a
really cool way to bring

1743
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,320
Nintendo DS games to Nintendo
classics because the bottom of

1744
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,480
the screen would have a touch
screen like the DS had.

1745
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,960
And then you have the second
screen or, you know, I guess.

1746
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,160
I mean, I don't think you can do
a thing where like you're

1747
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,680
holding the Switch and it's
airplane to the television and

1748
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,480
that's your second screen.
I don't think the Switch has

1749
01:36:55,480 --> 01:36:58,240
that kind of capabilities.
In fact, I'm sure it doesn't.

1750
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,160
So that would be neat And then
you know what you guys are

1751
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,040
making a virtual boy peripheral
like this.

1752
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:08,880
This is a better idea than that.
So so go for that And Mike, you

1753
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,160
had a wish for a game.
Oh no, it was holy diver.

1754
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,320
You'd said mine.
I think I actually have a pretty

1755
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:17,720
good chance of getting this
time.

1756
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,280
Still waiting on clay fighter,
still waiting on rampage.

1757
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,560
But now that we have GameCube
games, there was a warrior where

1758
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,400
television like not portable
game for the GameCube called

1759
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,320
Wario Wear incorporated mega
party games.

1760
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:37,720
Are you familiar?
I am not 2003 GameCube port of.

1761
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,680
The Gameboy Advance game.
But what made it so fun is it's

1762
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,480
that Wario wear gameplay of
rapidly cycling through 4 second

1763
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:46,600
games.
But it's four players, so you're

1764
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:51,560
taking turns and my brothers and
IA whole summer played this one

1765
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:56,320
mode where like you're standing
on top of turtles and every time

1766
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,160
you lose a mini game, an extra
turtle is added to your stack.

1767
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,640
And so the game becomes who's
going to fall over last?

1768
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,280
Who can keep their balance the
longest?

1769
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:12,320
And if you're good at the mini
games, your balance is easier

1770
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,200
because your stack of turtles
isn't as high.

1771
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:18,040
It's so much fun and you know,
I'm optimistic I'm going to get

1772
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,120
that one.
So so fingers crossed here.

1773
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,160
Two other things that I have on
my wish list #1.

1774
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:30,000
I want another Sega system.
Oh OK and honestly not picky

1775
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,640
witch I want that.
Sort of.

1776
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,920
Connection to be continuing to
be fed.

1777
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,640
Yes, I agree and I think it does
something as well to.

1778
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,720
Bring in people.
Who?

1779
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,320
That's where their their
nostalgia is.

1780
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:46,680
Yeah.
To go.

1781
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,840
Hey, we do know you exist.
And we have your.

1782
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,480
Stuff here as well, you know, so
I'm going to I'm going to

1783
01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:56,560
piggyback on your idea because
like, you know, if you.

1784
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,160
Can bring the Virtual Boy and
the kind of cool thing about

1785
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,760
Virtual Boy on Nintendo classics
is that we're going to get to

1786
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,680
play pretty much the entire
catalog because it was not

1787
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:09,320
successful so almost every game
is coming do the Sega 32X

1788
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,840
because you're going to get the
click bait of what is that that

1789
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:17,120
was not popular but there's also
like games on there that people

1790
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,680
would love to play like Knuckles
Chaotics.

1791
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,600
It's the only you know Sonic
game where Knuckles was the

1792
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,520
primary protagonist and a lot of
beloved characters came from

1793
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,520
that game so people they're not
going to spend X amount of

1794
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,480
dollars hunting down that game
on eBay.

1795
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,840
But you know it was also a fully
cartridge based system so there

1796
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,360
wouldn't be any issues with like
the full motion video or the

1797
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,400
rights to actual actors that you
would run into if you did Sega

1798
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:44,080
CD Sega CD is mostly known for
its full motion games so Sega

1799
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,120
32X make it happen.
I like that idea, Mike.

1800
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:46,880
Good.
Good on you.

1801
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,640
What was the other one?
And then, of course, as always,

1802
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,840
cruising.
Cruising USA, please.

1803
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,600
Yeah, keep putting.
That out into the universe,

1804
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,840
yeah, that's that's awesome.
So Mike, final thoughts on

1805
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,320
Season 3, you want to go first
or should I go first?

1806
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,720
I will go first because I feel
like you have a more prepared.

1807
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:10,400
Final thoughts of sorts.
So certainly it's been a lot of

1808
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,360
Season A.
Lot of.

1809
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:16,640
Fun guests that have brought us
into contact with other fan

1810
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,880
communities out there.
So it has been that has been fun

1811
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,960
and certainly a lot of this
benefits from those connections

1812
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:30,440
because hey, we do a video game
podcast is a very common line on

1813
01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:32,040
the Internet.
What?

1814
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,440
We're not the only one, Mike.
There's at least three.

1815
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,680
So certainly.
That helps in the same vein.

1816
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:42,920
If you listen to the.
Stuff which if you're hearing

1817
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,640
this, you by definition do
listen to this stuff.

1818
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,000
If you know people that you
think would also dig this,

1819
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,560
please share.
It is very hard to make

1820
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,480
discoverability work and one of
the most trusted things is if

1821
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:59,480
someone says, hey, you guys
should check this out and you're

1822
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:01,880
a lot of lovely people, everyone
connected to the show, everyone

1823
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,840
listening, everybody.
Helping us make it, you know,

1824
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:09,120
I'll, I'll bet the people that
you know are probably pretty rad

1825
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,240
too.
So spread the word, bring them

1826
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,480
to our discord.
You know, if they have a game

1827
01:41:13,480 --> 01:41:15,000
they're really passionate about,
let us know.

1828
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,560
You know, it's it's it's been
one of the greatest things about

1829
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:22,560
this podcast.
So not to bring the room down

1830
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,760
too much or anything.
I had a bit of a health scare

1831
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,080
over summer.
I got I got my very first ulcer.

1832
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,480
Mike, are you familiar with
ulcers?

1833
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:31,880
Yes.
Yeah.

1834
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,200
So I don't know if you've had
the pleasure, but it's.

1835
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,000
It's pretty awful.
It's like a hole.

1836
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,400
In the side of my stomach.
And the hope was that it, you

1837
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,800
know, was something that's
curable simply through

1838
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,520
prescriptions.
But it's not that kind of ulcer.

1839
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,640
It's like a stress one.
And this show is so much fun to

1840
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,640
me, like, it fills my bucket so
much.

1841
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,760
But it's the the work that goes
into this.

1842
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,320
It's one of the few things that
Mike and I have a modicum of

1843
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,200
control over.
Like I can't make my students

1844
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,680
less stressful.
God bless them.

1845
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,480
I'm the union Rep for my teacher
union, and so that's super

1846
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:06,600
important.
So basically I'm trying to say

1847
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,720
is that going into Season 4,
we're changing format slightly.

1848
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,440
We're going to stick to one game
per episode, which I think will

1849
01:42:14,440 --> 01:42:16,600
let us explore the games a bit
more.

1850
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,320
And you know, I think the format
works a little bit better that

1851
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:23,000
way, but we're still going to be
releasing on the same schedule.

1852
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,120
And a lot of that is due to
Mike's hard work.

1853
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,680
Mike has stepped up and taken on
more of the response, the

1854
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,480
ability of running this thing.
So if you appreciate that the

1855
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:33,520
switcheroo is gonna keep going,
releasing every other week, be

1856
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,440
sure to thank Mike because he's
really stepped up.

1857
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:38,240
And, you know, when I had to
step back a little bit, he's

1858
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:40,120
he's.
I just appreciate it, Mike.

1859
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,600
I really, really do.
And please listen next season

1860
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,520
because we love doing this and
we hope that you love listening

1861
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:48,480
to it.
Yeah.

1862
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:52,640
And so that next season will
start roughly around.

1863
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:54,760
The end of this year, the start
of next year.

1864
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,680
But we will have some episodes
in between now and then.

1865
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,520
Still, we'll do some more light
switches that will allow us to

1866
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,960
have some more relaxed episodes
in there.

1867
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,000
Yeah.
And we'll be talking about stuff

1868
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,200
that's not necessarily covering
games, but just, you know,

1869
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,640
different stuff.
That we've been up to and you

1870
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,680
know, I'm excited for it and I'm
by the way, and I'm fine.

1871
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,760
I don't know if I said that, but
like I'm not in danger or

1872
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,200
anything.
I just got to take it a little

1873
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,880
easier.
But anyway, I don't know about

1874
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,880
you, Mike, but I think this
season has been an E excellent.

1875
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:28,600
Everyone please visit WWWW dot
the old switcheroo thatsarro.com

1876
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,480
where you can find links to our
Spotify or Discord, YouTube,

1877
01:43:31,480 --> 01:43:34,600
TikTok and all the social medias
you can shake a joystick at.

1878
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,120
Big thanks to Crystal Fields for
our incredible intro song.

1879
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,520
And please listener, don't
forget to like and subscribe.

1880
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,480
This has been the old switcheroo
where we're still talking gaming

1881
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:48,760
retro with Mike and Jamo.
I've been Mike and I've been

1882
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,240
Jamo.
Game on everyone.

1883
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,840
Do that to me.
Here we go.

1884
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,960
Of course, now it's being
stubborn.

1885
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:10,680
Is this part of it?
Is it like an?

1886
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,600
Escape room thing we have to.
Fix the glitch?

1887
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:13,600
No, no.
I.

1888
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,080
Have a glitch and it's not
letting me play 1.

1889
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,280
Of those files, Doki Doki DLC
club.

1890
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:21,920
That was a solid reference I'm
sure.

1891
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,080
I just don't know that game.
I know what it is, I just.

1892
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,920
Don't have an attachment enough?
So have you not played Doki Doki

1893
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:29,440
Literature club?
No, never.

1894
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,640
You should check that out.
That's one where the students

1895
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,080
have to solve a murder.
By dawn or.

1896
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,360
They all die, isn't?
It I mean, if you know the

1897
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,520
murders by Dawn, what's the
mystery?

1898
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,840
Wow.
That definitely wasn't worth it.