BONUS | Lite Switch: Mar 4, 2026 | Pokemon 30th Anniversary

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Gotta Butch em up, polka Duff.
Or in other words, welcome to

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the old switcheroo, where we're
normally talking gaming retro

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with Mike and Jamo.
I'm Mike.

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And I'm Jamo in this special
light Switch episode, we're

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taking a break from our usual
quest to research and review

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every game in the Nintendo
Classics catalog to bring you

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our reactions to all the
exciting news from this year's

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Pokémon 30th anniversary.
If you like what you hear, don't

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forget to hit that pound.
Don't forget to pound that like

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and subscribe button like you're
pressing B and up right after

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throwing a poker ball.
Please welcome back to the show

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Twitch's living Triforce, the
fandoms of Pokémon Dragon Ball

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and Power Ranger Ball combined.
SSJ 3 Butch, how was your

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winter?
It's actually not bad.

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Living in Wisconsin, we actually
had a winter this year.

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Past couple years we've had
barely any snow.

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It maybe did in January and
February a little bit and that

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was it.
And this year we actually had

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snow.
We had a white Christmas.

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It's been good.
Had to do a lot of shoveling,

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which sucks, but you know, it
still was actually a nice

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winter.
Awesome.

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Really, really jealous.
And no Pokémon team would be

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complete without Derek Mcduff
from the Underrated Movie

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podcast.
Derek, you looking forward to

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Wondercon this year?
Oh, I am indeed.

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And I think for my panel, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna bring a friend.

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I'm gonna bring.
I think I might bring a.

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Yeah, I'm gonna.
Be happy to be there.

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No, but yeah, Wonder Con doing
AI.

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Can't give any details exactly
yet, but it will be about video

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game movies.
I'll be there and on the panel.

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Making his Wonder Con panel
debut will be Mr. J MO himself.

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I am beyond excited and I wish I
could talk about it, but stay

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tuned, it's going to be amazing.
So guys, before we dive into the

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Poke headlines, I thought we
could give our listeners the

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quick rundown of our experience
with Pokémon series.

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And then I got a little mini
game minute for us.

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So Mike, would you start us off?
What's your experience with

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Pokémon?
So certainly starting with

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Pokémon Blue, and it's around
the same time also would have

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been when everyone else was
watching the cartoon in the

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mornings.
I was turning it on and then

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falling asleep for the length of
an episode and then waking up

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because it was a morning cartoon
and I am not a morning person.

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So an attempt was made, yeah.
And then roughly Sup in close

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order to that would have also
been Pokémon Snap and then

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collecting and never playing the
Pokémon card game.

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Possibly the first of multiple
card games that I've collected

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and never known how to play.
Right.

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And then?
A large lull until we get to

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Pokémon Go, which may be what
I'm doing right now.

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Are you playing right now?
Is that a poker stop within

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striking distance of your
apartment?

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I have two and a gym and if I
drift enough I can get the stop

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across the street.
Wow.

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Humbrag.
Yeah, it is super useful.

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Which technically when it came
out, I did not have a

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smartphone, but this probably
played when I had to upgrade my

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phone.
Pokémon Go was a factor in that

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decision.
Doing the math at how late you

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got your first smartphone,
that's pretty impressive, Mike.

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It's it's because I was on a pay
as you go like bar phone up

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until AT&T discontinued my
network.

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Oh, you were grandfathered into
a really great deal.

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No, it was just, it was cheap.
And when they decided to say

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like, you're going to have to
buy, get a new phone and a new

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plant plan, it was like, OK, if
I have to get a new phone, I'm

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going to check my options.
And I switched, they switched

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over and it was great because I
was like, Oh well, why are you,

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why are you leaving AT&T?
It's like, well, you

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discontinued my network.
Like what could we do to get you

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to stay not do that?
Like you broke up with me and

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so.
This still bothers you to this

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day.
That's why I love you, Mike.

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The other fun part was that when
they did, they did try to entice

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me with like, Oh well you can
get this and bundle with HGTV

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with high def TV and I'm like,
yeah, it's not going to work.

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I have ACRT and the guy is just
like I don't know that brand and

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I near I nearly was like can I
talk to someone older please?

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Can I talk to your?
Father know that brand?

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Well, I need to.
Clarify this was that because

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this was that window where CRTS
were like dirt cheap before

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retro gaming pushed that back up
into expensive again, right?

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Where it was like you weren't so
much buying at CRT as you were

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freeing someone else from having
to figure out how to get rid of

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CRT.
That's really funny that CRTTVS

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and vinyl records kind of came
back at the same time.

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So for our kind of icebreaker
game, we're going to play Pick a

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Mon.
I have have two randomly

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selected Pokémon from the
beginning, 151, and Mike's going

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to pick a favorite, but we're
going to guess what his favorite

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of the two is before he tells
us.

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So Mike, make your choice, but
don't tell us, OK?

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Your choices are #59 Arcanine
the fire dog, or 141 Kabutops,

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the living fossil praying mantis
thing.

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I think I know for sure which
one Mike likes more.

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He's Kabutops, right?
He, he is.

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He's it's paleontology.
It's evolution.

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Look, Mike's going to appreciate
that.

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Derek, what do you guys think
he's going to pick?

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I'll go with.
I'll go with Arcanine just

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because I don't know and I'll
just go the other way.

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I'm gonna, I'm not gonna reveal
why you're wrong until Butch

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guesses Butch.
I, you know, I was gonna say the

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same thing.
I'll go against the grain here

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and, and say Arcanine as well,
even though like, you know,

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Mike, right, you guys, yeah, are
close.

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So like, I'll say it just
because like, it's a, it's a big

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fuzzy warm dog, you know?
Hey Mike, do you like big dogs?

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I don't.
Go.

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Ahead, I would say, though,
honestly the selling point for

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Kahootops actually is that I
have a technis Kabuto related

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story, but it's Kabuto.
Kabuto tops comes with it in

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Pokémon Go early on going
someplace that was supposed to

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have a bunch of Kabuto with
someone.

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I think it was also when Pokémon
Go had nests still of like you

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travel around, you'd find this
area has a bunch of a particular

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Pokémon with with someone who I
didn't know that well at the

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time.
It was just someone else in the

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depart department when I was in
Tennessee.

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Like we both play Pokémon.
There's a place over there

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that's supposed to be good.
You want to go.

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We went, did not find what we
were looking for, picked up a

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bunch of Kabuto, and this is
early enough in the game.

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I did not yet have enough to
evolve Squirtle up to Blastoise

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like it was a.
That's a very large gap to have

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in your Pokedex.
OK.

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We stumbled upon a wild
blastoise.

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Wow.
And like, it showed up, we found

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it.
The key had broken on my car, so

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I couldn't turn.
I wasn't going to turn the car

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off until I got home with my
spare key.

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So like, we're driving along and
it's just like, where is it?

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Wait, there it is.
It's behind the Caterpie.

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I can't see it get out of the
car and him getting out to go

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get it.
And so I still have that

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Blastoise, even though it is not
good.

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Yeah, for many years ago,
because it was so fun to get.

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And part of it was it was at a a
Cabuto nest.

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That is incredible.
Did you give it a nickname?

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I didn't, I just know it's the
like I don't all of my Pokémon

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in Pokémon Go are just named
with the stats.

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Like I even slightly regret I
did just this past week.

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Got a Pokémon that was caught, a
regional Pokémon that was caught

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for me in New Zealand in 2018 by
someone that left this field of

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astronomy and I have not seen
until this week and he has saved

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a it up until I renamed it, it
literally had my name on it.

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It has been.
It was named for me and held

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there for like, what was that,
eight years?

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That's awesome.
And it's aged like a fine wine.

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It's a much higher level now,
Derek, I mean.

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It's a relicamp.
It's supposed to age.

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So I get the point is kabutops.
Yes.

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All right, so I get one point.
So, Derek, give give us your

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pokey history and then I'll give
you your choices.

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Yeah, so I mean my Pokey
history, like like Mike, I

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started from day one, at least
in America with Pokémon I had, I

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don't remember which was first.
I think it was red version

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first, but I eventually did get
blue and yellow and was all in

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on Pokey Mania.
I watched the show.

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I like him, didn't play the
game, but still collected the

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cards.
I still have my cards, you know,

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remember I remember watching the
movie and getting that like

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collectible MU card that you got
like the promo 1 and was just

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all in me and my friends and I
was one of the kids who was like

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I'm going.
I did the missing no glitch so I

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could get like, you know, W blue
sky rare candies and like put

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all my Pokémon level 100 and
stuff like that and corrupt my

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Hall of Fame file.
And then of course when they

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came out with the next, I was
like, there's 100 new ones.

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And so I did get the original
151 as a kid even and MU because

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my friend who had to do the MU
glitch and I got the MU and

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played Gen. 2, played Gen. 3
into high school, played Gen. 4.

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Lost my DS on a tragic day on
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Eventually you.
Left it on the train.

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I left it on the train.
It fell out of my pocket.

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I never got it back.
So and then I was like, I'm

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done.
I'm retired from Pokémon, but I

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started back up again, had a
couple of my Pokémon.

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So then I went back, played, got
it and got because that was my

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diamond version I had.
I got Pearl, got back into it,

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played Gen. 5-6 all the way up
and I played every single

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Pokémon game.
And I even today I have a

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Pokémon home account.
I have some of those Pokémon

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from my Gen. 3 games, which is
the earliest you can go back

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that I didn't.
The ones I didn't lose I have

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transferred all the way up to my
current Gen. 9 and home game.

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So I have some Pokémon that are
older than some like children

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and stuff that I know or even
some people are voting age

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probably because they're from
2003 and I so I still I'm and I

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have still I've caught all
Pokémon.

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I've caught all 10,000 and 25.
I don't have a living decks, but

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in my scarlet I have a completed
decks and in my home I have a

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completed decks and I've
complete the decks in every

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generation that I play.
So you don't like the series

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very much?
No, it's not for me.

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I just love the idea of you in
like a dimly lit bar and you're

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like, and the government
approaches, you're like, Derek,

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we need you back in the game.
And you're like, I'm retired.

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You don't know what I've seen.
And it's just a flashback of you

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leaving your DS on the train.
You.

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Know I still think about that
all the time.

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I'm like, I'm like where is my
diamond and my leaf green

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version?
I would like to think that

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someone who got it appreciated
it and couldn't afford it

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themselves and they're living a
beautiful life.

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I hope so.
And Butch found ADS on a train

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and that's how he got into.
It was real weird.

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He was just sitting there and
you know.

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Yeah, these guys suck.
I deleted the file immediately.

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Right.
OK, so Derek, your poke choices,

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this one seems a little easy to
be honest, but I'm just, I'm

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just doing what I get at random
here.

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Executor #1O3 or Jolteon 135.
OK, OK.

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I'm guys, it's going to be
Jolteon, right?

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Like who likes Executor more
than Jolteon?

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Mike Likes what kind of idiot
you do you really do, Mike?

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What I think?
Joel Taylor has just hit or has

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been frustrating, OK?
I think it feels like there's

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other things that were more
useful, whereas I had what I

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called the Executor Forest in
Pokémon Go because there was a

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lot of them around, OK, and they
were very useful.

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I know that, yeah.
And also like a lowland executor

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is kind of cool.
I wasn't going to count that

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one, but I do.
I do really enjoy there's a

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comic of like, Charizard asking
to sit at the dragon table and

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the Dragons are like, no.
And then that executor comes up

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like, hey, guys, like, you know,
you take the seat.

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I've seen that.
So we're still guessing for

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Derek though, so I say Jolteon,
Mike I.

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No, I, I.
Go with your gut.

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I've got the executor curveball
here.

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OK, OK.
Taking a flyer and executor.

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It's a bit more fun.
Execute or whatever Butch.

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I'm going to say Jolteon just
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early gens, Jolteon was kind of
in a rough spot.

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Even even then, like you look at
Executor and you're like, I need

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a psychic type, There's better
psychic types.

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At least that's my feel.
So I'm going to say Jolteon.

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Derek.
It's Jolteon.

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Jolteon is maybe my favorite
Gen. 1 Pokémon.

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Like it's between him and you
probably I I love Jolteon.

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He has been on my team many,
many times.

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Whenever I do a Canto run, he's
always my electric type.

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So yeah, I love Jolteon.
He's such a good boy.

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You know, I he's, he's one of my
all time favorite Pokémon.

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He's in my top ten Pokémon of
all time.

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So the fact that you rolled him
and a Pokémon that is like I

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don't have anything against
executor, but like I've never

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used him on a team.
He's very forgettable.

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His typing is atrocious.
His typing is atrocious.

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It's like you're.
Psychic.

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Are you kidding me?
Get out of here.

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Unless you're a mythical
Pokémon, I don't want none of

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that.
All right, so I'll go next.

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Mike and I had a classmate in
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named John, and John convinced
me to get a Game Boy, and I

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thought he wanted to be my
friend and play the game.

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He just wanted someone to trade
with.

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He had Pokémon Red, I had
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Pokémon to me.
At that point, I only knew it as

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the obscure anime pilot I saw on
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They aired the SSN episode, The
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pilot.
And I remember that being

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heavily promoted.
My brothers and I watched it.

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And, like, we thought it was,
like, the coolest thing in the

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world.
And the next day there was a kid

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at school was like, Oh my God,
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He's like, go like, rock Snake.
And it's like, I'm like, it's

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Onyx.
OK?

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His name's Onyx, not Rock Snake.
So yeah.

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Pokémon Underground.
We would meet in the library,

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and we would pretend to be
reading books, but we'd have the

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link cables and the Game Boys
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And we felt so dangerous because
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This is like, you know, to bring
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You felt like you'd get in some
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I have played and beaten almost
every generation.

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Black and White was the one that
I skipped, dabbled Pokémon Go.

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I did Let's go.
I Derek is wrong.

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Those games are fun.
And yeah, I, I am stoked.

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So my pick came on.
Do you guys think I like #37

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Vulpix more or less than #130
Gyarados?

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Which one does Jamo like?
More.

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That is tough.
Mike should go first because he

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doesn't know me the best.
It's tough call.

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I I'm going to say the magic
harp to Gyarados evolution thing

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is going to draw you into
Gyarados.

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OK, OK, fair theory, Butch.
Man, that's tough because like a

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lot of people love Vulpix cuz
it's cute and it's, you know,

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it's got the whole the history
behind it.

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I like them both.
Yeah, everybody else loves

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Gyarados.
Like, yeah, magic carp, you

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know, it's tough to grind out,
but once you get that Gyarados,

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like I know my, I get a Gyarados
and that's saved a lot of nose

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locks for me.
And so, yeah, Gyarados.

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You gotta get D listed with that
kind of talk.

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Budge.
Come on there.

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Relax.
Look at that.

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There it is.
It's got the red Gyarados.

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Yeah, I got one of those.
That is a level 1.

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Gyarados Gyarados from Heart
Gold still in my Pokémon home.

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So what's the call?
What's the call Witch Gyarados?

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Gyarados like.
Derek, do you do you concur, as

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Leo DiCaprio would say, and
catch me if you can?

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I concur.
Yes, I think cuz I mean it's

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more it's kind of like, I feel
like Velpex is cool, but

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everybody loves Gyarados, you
know, and I think Mike has a

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good point where I could see you
being like guys, it's great.

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It starts at this weak Pokémon
and becomes one of the

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strongest.
I could see that angle being a

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very J MO angle.
Yeah, so if you guys have been

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paying attention, you kind of
already knew the answer because

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Gyarados attacked the Saint Anne
after it capsizes.

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And that's was the scariest,
coolest moment as a kid.

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And then Mike and I, you know,
we both love Pokémon Snap.

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And when you knock the magic
carp into the waterfall and

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Gyarados comes roaring out of
the waterfall and leering over

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you like some kind of
animatronic in a really good

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dark ride.
That's an all time gamer moment.

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And, and, and I think we talked
about it, Derek, on your Pokémon

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Snap episode.
So yeah, Gyarados with a bullet.

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Volpic's super cute, but I'm a,
I'm a, I'm a gear up boy.

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OK, so Butch, no.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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What's your poke history?
Boy, I'd like everybody or most

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people here.
I started with red blue.

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I picked red first, but I
eventually did get blue.

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I was fortunate enough that like
I had an original like Grey

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Brick Game Boy and then I ended
up getting a pocket for my

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birthday one year, many years
later.

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So I was able to have both.
I had a link cable so I could

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trade with myself because as we
know from my history, I didn't

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have friends growing up,
especially ones that played

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Pokémon because that was nobody
played that.

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That was the nerd thing, right?
So I was able to trade with

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myself, complete my Pokedexes
like Derek, you know, I was able

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to do the MU glitch.
So I was able to get that

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missing.
No, all of that stuff knew knew

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the glitches.
Also, you know, if you heard the

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rumors, the Polka gods, Bill's
Garden, if you know, you know,

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but you know, obviously they
weren't true.

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They weren't true.
You know, those are the rumors.

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Like bill a mew behind a truck
by the SSN.

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Right, right, exactly.
You know, that was one of the

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those are some of the big rumors
going around that the the grass

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outside of Pallet Town.
If you could get to that through

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the barricades, that's where the
pokey gods were hidden.

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And Bill, if you got like I
think all 151 and went to him

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there were you could go to a
secret garden and get stuff like

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because it was rumored, you
know, Togepi and all the ones

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from like Gen. 2 and stuff.
My uncle, who works at Nintendo

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told me that was true.
Exactly.

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Exactly.
Right, so you know, the the the

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playground rumors, but anyway,
so yeah, from there, you know,

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gold, silver, crystal, Ruby,
sapphire emeralds and then, of

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course, fire red leaf green.
Although the spin off games, the

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mystery dungeon snap stadium,
the the card game.

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I even got the little how do you
pronounce like Tommy?

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The the the figures.
I still have some actually, you

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know, and, and I got all of
those growing up, the little

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pokeballs, you know, I pretend I
was throwing them out.

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I actually, to this day, I still
have my yellow, red and blue

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cartridge.
At one point I did, I don't know

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if it was legit.
I can't.

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I can't tell you if it was
because I was a kid, but a local

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mom and pop shop had a copy of
Green.

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And I bought it and I had it for
the longest time.

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I don't know where it went.
I feel like somebody like an

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extra roommate or somebody stole
it.

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But like I said, I don't know if
it was a legit copy or not.

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But yeah, like I've you, you
name the game, I've probably

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played it in some form or
fashion.

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And I'm very big in the seen if
you know what I'm talking about

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and and enjoy other stories
around Pokémon so.

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That's awesome.
Yeah.

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The same person who took Derek's
DS off the train.

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Got your copy of Green?
Yeah, exactly.

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Moving through the zoom.
OK, so my.

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Oil Charizard.
All right, so Butch, to tie the

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game up, your two choices for
pick a Mon, you can choose

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between ponyta #77 or ghastly
#92 and we're going to guess

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first Ponyta or Ghastly.
That's actually kind of tough.

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Ponyta's so pretty, but the
design is kind of simple.

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But I guess Ghastly is just like
Pac-Man on fire.

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I'm going to go with ghastly.
I think it's a more fun

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evolution chain and I think if
Butch remembers their appearance

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on the show, the the ghost
episode is so fun.

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They all have distinct
personalities and like and

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Ghastly is also one of the few
Pokémon to ever talk.

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It talks in its episode, so I'm
going to say Ghastly.

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Mike, what do you think Butch's
choice is going to be?

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My my gut is ghastly.
Yeah, ghastly as.

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Well, yeah, yeah, I think that's
three for three Ghastly.

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So cool.
You know, it's it's and I don't,

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I don't know Butch, that well.
We met this Zoom is right before

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the Zoom recording started.
So I'm gonna just it's kind of a

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guess, but in my own opinion, I
like ghastly better.

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So I'll I'll assume you're a man
of taste and culture as well and

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you like Ghastly.
But.

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Yeah, it's gonna be ghastly.
Yeah, I mean pony, like I like

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you said, it's a it's a good
Mon, but like you look at a fire

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type, if you're like, oh, I need
a fire type, there's others you

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go for, at least in my opinion.
Like it could be a good early

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fire type, but yeah, I'd rather
go ghastly just because the

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evolution line and one of the
actually the only ghost

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evolution line in Gen. 1, so
yeah.

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Well, you know what that means
that you guys all tie for

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second, but your boy, your boy
wins it 3 for three guesses.

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So guys, let's jump in then to
last week.

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The Pokémon Company went hard
with a flurry of announcements

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celebrating Pokémon's 30th
anniversary.

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We're here to break down the big
one, starting with the re

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release of Pokémon Fire Red and
Leaf Green from the Game Boy

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Advance.
According to nintendo.com,

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celebrate 30 years of Pokémon
with this Nintendo Switch

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version of the Pokémon Fire Red
version or Leaf Green version

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originally released on the Game
Way Advanced system.

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These remasters are really
spectacular.

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I think it's described as saying
this digital exclusive and

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contains the Savi Savi Savi Savi
Islands where even more Pokémon

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await.
That's where you can catch them

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from Gen. 2 and three.
You can also visit the Pokémon

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Wireless Club to trade battle
and chat with other players via

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local wireless.
Who could want anything more

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than that, Butch?
You'll also be able to bring the

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Pokémon you catch and train to
the place where all Pokémon

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gathers.
Support for Pokémon Home is

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coming soon to Fire Red and Leaf
Green.

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Do I assume that last part is
what's kind of exciting?

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I mean, it, it's I, it needs to
be that you need to have, I

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think you need to have
connection to home because if

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you, if you don't, because you
can still technically get your

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Pokémon from your old Fire Red
and Leaf Green to Pokémon Home,

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but it requires you to trade
them up from Fire Red and Leaf

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Green using ADS with a slot for
a Game Boy into a Diamond of

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Pearl.
Then you get a second game or

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second DS, trade them over to
that game using Powell Park.

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From that one put them in to Sun
and Moon, then to X&Y and then

440
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,920
the Pokémon Bank if you have
Bank downloaded which is not

441
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,240
available anymore on ADS, and
then from Bank you can get it to

442
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,080
home.
So it's a much more direct

443
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,760
route.
You got to have a.

444
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,200
Smugglers run.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean,

445
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,680
that's legitimately the way you
have to do it.

446
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,360
You have to have all the proper
hardware and and the proper

447
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,080
software because like he said,
if you don't have bank now like

448
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,440
I do because I got it
originally, but if you don't,

449
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,760
you can't get it anymore.
And and for those who aren't

450
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,000
familiar, Pokémon Home with
Pokémon Bank was basically like

451
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,880
1 central app where you would
store your Pokémon from

452
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,160
different games and you could
trade them to any game.

453
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,960
But it was like a little hub.
Mike, did you ever so you, you

454
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,960
and me, I remember we played the
air Game Boy originals.

455
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,080
Did you ever mess with any of
the re releases like fire red,

456
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,720
leaf green, or even let's go put
Pikachu and let's go Evie?

457
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:07,560
No, in part just because they
stayed console and like I had a

458
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,960
Game Boy, old Game Boy and then
nothing.

459
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,560
OK, so do these re releases call
to you at all?

460
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,320
Are you kind of tempted to drop
that 20 bucks and give it a give

461
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,840
it a run, give it a swirl,
swirl, take it for a ride?

462
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,120
Not.
Heavily OK, but Butch, you, you,

463
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,640
you jumped on it, right?
I yeah, I did.

464
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,800
I got play it red and I will say
like, I know there's the the

465
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,080
fandom is split big time with
this because there's a lot of

466
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,280
people that are like 20 bucks is
too much.

467
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
There's a lot of people that are
like, I could have just been on

468
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,400
Nintendo switch online.
There's a lot of people that are

469
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,040
like, hey, you know, drink up me
Hardy yo ho for the past however

470
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,560
many years and and you don't
need to pay the 20 bucks, right.

471
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,320
And so like there's so many
people that are like, there's

472
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,080
that love it.
There's people that are upset

473
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,480
about it.
There's people that are confused

474
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160
about it.
I got on it just because like

475
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,680
even if I have, you know, like
with when we talked about Link

476
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,280
to the Past and I do
randomizers, right?

477
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,200
I've done that with Pokémon as
well and I've done, you know,

478
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,200
other things where people have
made their own stories off the

479
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,120
engines and and stuff.
I still was like, this is the

480
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,640
original game.
Especially now.

481
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,880
The fact that you get the Aurora
ticket and the Mystic ticket,

482
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,480
which allows you to get the Oxys
and either Lugia or Ho, which

483
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,880
you didn't get back then because
they never released it.

484
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080
Or if they did, it was for a
very brief window and you had to

485
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,440
live in like New York or Kyoto
or someplace like that and

486
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,160
physically show up to get it.
Yeah, yeah.

487
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,080
So Derek, are you, are you going
to pick up these on the switch

488
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,400
for 20 bucks?
I will I think 20 bucks is

489
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,880
definitely a reasonable price.
You know, I, I think I see what

490
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600
Butch is saying about like a lot
of people being upset about

491
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,400
online like they should, it
should have just been on, you

492
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,000
know, the switch, you know,
online.

493
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,080
But I do like that it's like,
no, you can just own this.

494
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,800
You don't have to have a
subscription to this other

495
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,080
service.
You know, I like that 20 bucks

496
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720
like it's like it's not that
terrible.

497
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,840
These are really great games
because I have been waiting.

498
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,960
I've been like, when are they
going to start releasing the

499
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,200
actual core series games onto
the Switch?

500
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Because you could get a lot of
them on like the old Nintendo

501
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,360
DSE shop.
You could, you know, you can get

502
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,000
all like this spinoff games, you
can like Pokémon Snap and

503
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,200
Mystery Dungeon, all that stuff.
But these were just never

504
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080
available.
I was surprised that they went

505
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,960
with Fire Red and Leaf Green.
I guess it makes sense because

506
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,200
Pokémon loves going back to
Canto.

507
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,200
Gen. 3 is really nostalgic.
Canto games are really

508
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,880
nostalgic.
So you're getting both those.

509
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
So it makes sense for that to be
the first one.

510
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,560
But I'm like waiting for them
to.

511
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,120
And now I'm like, OK, are we
going to get Platinum?

512
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,960
That's the one I want to see.
Because I can, I can play these

513
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,840
games.
I still have my original

514
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,480
hardware and I can play them on
my 3 my my old DS, you know,

515
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,120
because that will play Game Boy
Advance games.

516
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,640
I probably not going to do it
yet because I and I've told you

517
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,440
about this Jamo and I mentioned
on the discord.

518
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,400
I'm in the middle of doing a
mono run challenge where I'm

519
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600
playing every single generation
of Pokémon and trying to beat it

520
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,360
with only bug types and I
already did Gen. 3.

521
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:07,760
I did that was the one I started
with.

522
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,920
I did Emerald.
So I probably won't be going

523
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,440
back to this until I finish this
challenge.

524
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,200
But hey if they release platinum
on as wait, I don't get how much

525
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,080
because if I want to buy a legit
copy of platinum that's cost

526
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,640
like $200.00.
So if they release it for you

527
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,720
know, 20-30 bucks, sign me up.
I'll do that.

528
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,680
I'm gonna get my bugs.
So you'll appreciate this.

529
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,120
My older brother Justin, he's
also a pokey maniac.

530
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:36,200
And at the comic shop that he,
he had friends who ran the comic

531
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,200
shop, they did a Pokémon event
where people dressed up as gym

532
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,880
leaders.
And my brother is a legit

533
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,520
paleontologist.
Like he's discovered a

534
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,600
subspecies of boar.
So he has like all the

535
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680
equipment, the little chips and
the vest and the hat, and he

536
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,520
made a rock team and actual kids
would go from person to person

537
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,320
and fight on Pokémon against the
gym leader who's in costume and

538
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200
has only one type.
And he gave them like the the

539
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Boulder badge or whatever.
It was cool.

540
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Isn't that sick there?
That's.

541
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Amazing.
Yeah.

542
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Yeah, that's cool.
My friend Gabe is a

543
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,800
paleontologist too, but he's
also a big poking nerd.

544
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,800
And like, he does a lot of stuff
about like fossils and like the

545
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080
fossil Pokémon and like, you
know, sorry, I was at the Museum

546
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,880
of the LA Museum of Natural
History and like, I saw a

547
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,120
picture of him on the wall and
I'm like, and so he does a lot

548
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,800
of same stuff too, something
that's really rad.

549
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,080
That's awesome.
I do think to speak to Butcher's

550
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200
point about like, this game
should be Nintendo classics.

551
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Like obviously Mike and I would
freaking love that, but I think

552
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160
it's important to remember that
Nintendo does not own Pokémon.

553
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,560
And so there had to be some kind
of bargaining happening where

554
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,960
they're like, well, we would
make X amount of dollars if we

555
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,120
just re release and sell it.
How much are you going to give

556
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,320
us, Nintendo, to put this on the
service?

557
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,480
And it must have just been like,
you know what Nintendo's like.

558
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Well, we'll get the slice of
this if you just sell it.

559
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000
So I think this is purely a
business decision.

560
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,280
But I am hopeful.
I do agree with Derek.

561
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000
It's really weird to jump
straight to the remake, which

562
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,400
gives me some sliver of hope
that maybe the basic versions

563
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,680
will be Nintendo classics.
So that could be kind of neat.

564
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,080
Like we get we get red and blue
on the Game Boy app on Nintendo

565
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,680
classics, but the nicer version,
I don't think.

566
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Well, yeah.
And I would just.

567
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,800
They they.
Compatible with home.

568
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,920
They they might, I don't know
cuz they, they did and I don't

569
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640
know if you were around for that
at the time, but they did

570
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,360
release red, blue, yellow and
then gold silver crystal on the

571
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880
on the 3DS.
On their I have yeah, I have

572
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,200
gold and red on my.
Yeah.

573
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,680
And so, and they did that where
those were then compatible with

574
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,640
bank like you could move them
forward to bank and they

575
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,760
actually in in crystal, you
could get the GS ball and get

576
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,880
Celebi, which you couldn't in
the US version.

577
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,760
So they might bring it back.
I don't know.

578
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,800
They might have just been like,
hey, we already did it on the

579
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,040
3DS and if you missed it, you
missed it too bad.

580
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,360
You know, so it's possible as
far as like the other Gen. 3

581
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,480
games, I know there are people
that have been like data mining

582
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:06,840
the the ROM itself and it has
the basically the hardware code

583
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,080
in there for Emerald, Ruby and
Sapphire.

584
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,680
So they potentially could.
I mean they they'd be dumb not

585
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,480
to release the other three
considering fire Red and Leaf

586
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,240
Green were made to essentially
complete the Pokedex.

587
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Because when Ruby and Sapphire
came out you could only get like

588
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Gen. 3 and a few Gen. 2 and then
so why Red and Leaf green were

589
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,280
made?
In fact actually Coliseum was

590
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120
also made to help it.
And then Emerald finally came in

591
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,200
with like the last what was it,
12?

592
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,640
I can't remember the exact
number but like you couldn't

593
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,400
complete a full pokedex in Gen.
3 without having all the other

594
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,560
games.
Yep, yeah.

595
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,920
So what they need to do when
they release those Butch is they

596
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,680
need to finally do was it
shifting cave, altering cave

597
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,880
they.
Altering cave, yes.

598
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Altering cave a thing?
Yeah, because in default in the

599
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,280
game it was supposed to be an
event cave and they didn't do

600
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,880
anything with it.
And if you went to it, this is

601
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,800
actually in the Sevi Islands
post game, you were supposed to

602
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,480
be able to go to this cave and
you could get like event Pokémon

603
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,480
in it or like they would ship
switch out to be like, oh, you

604
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,760
can't get this Pokémon, but now
you can so you can transfer it

605
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,600
somewhere else.
And it just ended up being zoo

606
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720
bats.
And it's like, well, I can get

607
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,200
zoo bats in Mount moon.
What the you?

608
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,760
Know yeah because I remember
like for like the longest time

609
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,360
was like what is this this is
something this is like this

610
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,920
weird cave that's like kind of
hard to get to there's only zoo

611
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200
bats and yeah it was a thing
where they're like yeah this is

612
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,160
going to be an event and they
just never released the event

613
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,080
they were supposed to get all
the like JoJo Pokémon that you

614
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,760
couldn't get because it was you
know Gen. you know the Gen. 2

615
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Pokémon that were harder to get
but never became anything.

616
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,080
Yeah so fix this wrong Nintendo.
It's been 20.

617
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Whatever you.
Right, you're giving us the

618
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,440
Mystic ticket in the Aurora
ticket.

619
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Fix the altering cave.
Yes, quit Mystic ticket edging

620
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,480
them.
But yeah, I mean, that's that's

621
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,920
the entirely because like you
couldn't take your Gen. 1 and

622
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,760
Gen. 2 like in the day, you
could trade Gen. one up to Gen.

623
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080
2, but then it it was a hard cut
off, you could not trade that

624
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560
from Gen. 2 to Gen. 3.
So that's one of the reasons why

625
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,080
they made fire red leaf green
and one of the reasons, you

626
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320
know, besides just getting the
the other Gen. 2 that we're

627
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,800
missing.
So you could get Gen. one

628
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,440
because otherwise it wasn't
possible.

629
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Mike, what were you going to
say?

630
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720
I was going to say, I do have
the feeling like I wouldn't

631
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:28,200
expect if they do release,
release any of it onto and as a

632
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Nintendo Classics, I would not
expect that it would have like

633
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560
the connections to home and
everything, right.

634
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,560
You don't think so?
I I think it I.

635
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,240
I I don't just for the fact that
there's already, if you go look

636
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,640
it up, there's already videos on
fire red Leaf green on how to do

637
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Pokémon, how to dupe master
balls.

638
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Like all of the stuff that was,
you know, back in the day is now

639
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,240
big again.
And so I feel like they wouldn't

640
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080
because then now you're going to
have muse floating out there

641
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,200
that aren't legit because people
are doing it with this, this

642
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,440
dupe ability with it's one of
the mail items.

643
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,280
You can do it.
I don't remember exactly, but

644
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,800
yeah.
I wouldn't say.

645
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,239
I just don't expect them to add
additional capabilities than

646
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,199
anything that they put into the
Nintendo classics.

647
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,199
Yeah.
But, and being that I paid 20

648
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,480
bucks for this, it is really a
bummer that you can't play

649
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,040
online against people.
Yeah, because like, Nintendo

650
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,800
classics, like you can play Game
Boy multiplayer games that had

651
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Link cable functionality through
the Internet.

652
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,880
Mike and I did it with Doctor
Mario, so like, I know that

653
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,560
someone at Nintendo knows the
code for that, you know?

654
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,280
And you'd think that at this
point they would have been

655
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,040
working together so well that
they're like, let's make this

656
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,400
happen.
But I do think that the whole

657
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,040
Pokémon home issue might have
something to do with it with a

658
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,440
game we're going to talk about
later.

659
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:49,280
Let's jump into Pokémon XDAKA
Extra dimension, AKA laughing

660
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,760
emoticon Gale of Darkness being
added to Nintendo classics.

661
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,720
It says here shadow Pokémon have
reappeared in the OR or or.

662
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,840
Or or I always pronounce it
oray.

663
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Oray ORRE Yeah, OK, so according
to nintendo.com, Shadow Pokémon

664
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,720
have repeated in the Oray region
in this role-playing game

665
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,480
released for the Nintendo
GameCube system in 2005.

666
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,360
You are a young boy living at
the Oray region's Pokémon HQ lab

667
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,320
with his mom and little sister
who gets swept up in a grand

668
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,800
adventure.
When an incident occurs at the

669
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,200
lab with your Aura Reader, which
can detect Shadow Pokémon that

670
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,880
have had their doors to their
hearts shut, and the Snag

671
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Machine, which can capture
Shadow Pokémon from evil

672
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,000
trainers.
It's up to you to save the

673
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,760
world, stand against evil, and
reopen the doors to shut the

674
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,080
hearts of the Shadow Pokémon to
restore them to the natural

675
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,240
selves.
Please note you will not be able

676
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,640
to transfer Pokémon from Game
Boy Advance titles to this

677
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,000
title.
Which is just funny.

678
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,480
They're saying hey that thing
you just bought?

679
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,880
You can't use those Pokémon.
Don't get all excited.

680
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,200
I do agree with our friend in
the discord Chico who said that.

681
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,240
Like why wasn't Colosseum first?
I guess Pokémon XD is a direct

682
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:59,040
sequel to Colosseum, but I do
think this is the better known

683
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,000
game.
I know the whole Shadow Lugia

684
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,120
thing as kind of the antagonist
is a big defining trait of its

685
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,720
story and it's kind of the
iconography of the game itself.

686
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,600
I am excited to play this
eventually.

687
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,480
I think the mechanic of catching
Pokémon by stealing them from

688
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,680
abusive trainers, I imagine
that's actually pretty

689
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,720
satisfying and kind of a fun way
to expand the team.

690
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,040
So Derek Butch, you guys said
that you've played everything

691
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Pokémon.
Mike, you're with me.

692
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,520
You haven't tried this before,
right?

693
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,600
I had not heard of this before.
OK, but boys, you tried it

694
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,840
before?
Yeah.

695
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,240
I had the first Coliseum.
I never actually had this one.

696
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,600
OK.
And, and but you, you, you, you

697
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,760
platinumed it or whatever.
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh yeah.

698
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,320
Well, cuz at the time, the only
way you could get the Jodo

699
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,840
starters, Chicorita, Syndiquil
and Totodile was through playing

700
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040
XD.
And you had to go through like

701
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,800
the 100 trainers or whatever,
and then at the end you picked

702
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,120
one and then you'd have to do it
again and then do it again.

703
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,280
And that was the only way to get
the Jodo starters.

704
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,320
You couldn't get them through
the other games, right through

705
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,320
this other mishmash of all the
other games.

706
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880
You had to do it that way.
And that was the same way

707
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,640
because they didn't do the
Mystic ticket.

708
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,480
I can't remember if it was the
Mystic or the Aurora ticket for

709
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120
which one was which, but you
couldn't that that's the way you

710
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,200
got Lugia, right, was in Gale of
Darkness.

711
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,400
But the way to get Ho O was in
Colosseum.

712
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,760
You had to do that same thing.
You had to go through those 100

713
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,160
trainers and then you'd get
you'd get Ho O and because they

714
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,600
never released that event or
whatever.

715
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640
So yeah, that was how you did
it.

716
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,120
That's how you completed those
Dexes.

717
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,200
And so is the game itself.
Is it good?

718
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Are you excited to play it?
Are you?

719
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,400
Gonna play the game.
Oh yeah, 100% it is it's for a

720
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,160
game cube game and, and having
like the purpose it was made for

721
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,800
it was good.
It it is, is good.

722
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,040
It, it's better than I think it
should be because at the time,

723
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,520
like you went from, you know,
stadium, you went from snap and

724
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,320
Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2 and then
you get Coliseum and then Gala

725
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,120
of Darkness, which were at the,
at the time when I played them,

726
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,120
I was like, oh, this is just
going to be, you know, another

727
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,400
stadium, right?
They're just calling it

728
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,400
something.
Different than calling it.

729
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,720
Yeah, so I definitely think like
while Coliseum was good, Gala of

730
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,440
Darkness improved on a bunch of
stuff that needed to be

731
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,400
improved, like quality of life
stuff and whatever.

732
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,360
But I think it's definitely good
game.

733
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,480
Story was, for the time that it
came out, was good.

734
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,800
So yeah, I'm excited for it.
Yeah, it was interesting 'cause

735
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,360
it was like at that point when
we got the the spinoff Pokémon

736
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,480
games, they're always just like
fun things like Snap or Let's Go

737
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Pikachu, whatever.
And this was the first one where

738
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,680
was like, this is a story and
you're like, well, this is like

739
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,680
a Pokémon game with a full
story, but it's not one of the

740
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,240
core series games.
So it kind of existed in this we

741
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,960
they existed in this weird
middle ground where you're like,

742
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,040
it is a real Pokémon game, but
it's not one of the real Pokémon

743
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,800
games.
Right, because even in the other

744
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,240
games in the Game Boy series or
DS series, like there's

745
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,840
references to the other games,
right?

746
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,040
They'll reference Sino or the,
you know, somebody will be like,

747
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,840
you know, from Jodo and
reference Sino or whatever,

748
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,120
right?
But nobody ever references the

749
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,160
OR a region.
Yeah, let's see if Derek gets

750
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,360
this joke.
There are many lavender towns.

751
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Are you sure you're in the right
one?

752
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,280
Yes, I I did.
I did get that.

753
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,640
We have talked about Silent Hill
quite a bit on this show.

754
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Malcolm McDowell went off with
that one.

755
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,600
All right, so then let's jump
into the last re release Pokémon

756
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,880
TCG Pokémon Day 2026 collection.
According to Amazon.com,

757
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,920
celebrate 30 years of Pokémon
every year on February 27th,

758
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,760
Pokémon fans around the world
celebrate Pokémon Day to

759
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
commemorate the release of the
very first Pokémon video games

760
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,240
in Japan.
Pokémon 20 Pokémon Day 2026 is

761
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,720
an extra special occasion.
It's Pokémon 30th Anniversary

762
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:44,320
and you're invited to the party.
Celebrate with a specially

763
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,480
stamped foil promo card
featuring Pikachu and a metallic

764
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,800
coin featuring the 30th
anniversary logo, plus 3 booster

765
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,440
pack from three different
Pokémon TCG expansions.

766
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,880
You guys haven't, so we kind of
said a lot of you collected the

767
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,440
cards but never really played
the cards.

768
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,160
There's a fantastic Pokémon
trading card game on Nintendo

769
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,880
classics.
My brothers and I played the

770
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,680
hell out of that thing.
Add the sequel to Nintendo

771
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Classics, you cowards.
It's never been released in

772
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,200
America.
That would be such a cool game.

773
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,520
It would be good.
Yeah.

774
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,360
But I think it's really funny
cuz like now Pokémon cards are

775
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,680
more relevant than ever because
of scalpers and like the high

776
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000
value of certain cards.
And like, I have a friend at

777
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,200
work who does like, opening
videos and he's got the good

778
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,640
form down doing the card flip.
Caesar, if you're listening.

779
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,440
I love you buddy.
But it's just weird to me

780
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,080
because it's like Pokémon has
now become this thing that was

781
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,080
all about how much the cards are
worth.

782
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,080
And that was also my experience
as a kid.

783
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,040
I remember selling like a foil
Charizard and a foil Blastoise

784
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,880
and buying video games with
them.

785
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,760
So I I collected the cards up
through the fossil set, which

786
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,320
was the third set.
And then it would be like, well,

787
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,880
I grab one every now and then,
but I kind of stopped playing

788
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,680
the physical cards and stopped
buying them regularly.

789
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,680
Mike, you had some Pokémon
cards, but we never played

790
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,240
right.
No, I never played, never really

791
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:11,880
knew how it worked.
Still have the card somewhere.

792
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Well, yeah, there's probably
something rare in there if you

793
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,000
ever look for it.
I have wondered about that.

794
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000
But so how deep did you go?
Deep in all things Pokémon like.

795
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,560
So the cards I did like I played
it when it came out through

796
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,880
through like generation one.
In fact, I have a story about

797
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,760
that in junior high, 7th grade,
once again, didn't have any

798
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,200
friends, but I did have the
cards.

799
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
And of course, like this was the
point where like cards were

800
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,960
banned in school, but we still
like people would get together.

801
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200
And I showed up one time with
this, you know, group of nerds

802
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,720
where they were like, they
thought they were big hot shots,

803
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,920
right?
And I was like, I'm, you know, I

804
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,240
just want to go show up and give
it a go.

805
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,280
And this guy was like, I'll play
you for my foil Charizard.

806
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,080
I was like, fine, let's do it,
right?

807
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,840
And I ended up winning.
And he refused to give me the

808
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Charizard.
I never got it.

809
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,640
He refused to give it to me.
And basically everybody backed

810
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200
him up because, right, I was the
nobody that nobody cared about.

811
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,000
So yeah, to this day, like, and
the guy's name was Mike.

812
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,880
No offense, Mike, but Mike, if
you're out there, you suck.

813
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,520
The Speed Racer twist where it
is Mike and he just had facial

814
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,640
reconstruction surgery like.
Whatever, that's brilliant.

815
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Yeah, it sucked.
But so I didn't really like ever

816
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,880
get to the competitive scene or
anything like that.

817
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,000
I'd play against, you know, a
couple people here and there,

818
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,480
but never, never anything big.
And I think I got to like 2 Gen.

819
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,280
2 and then I was like, this is
starting to get too much.

820
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,280
And like, now you look at it
right, like you said, the

821
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,320
scalpers are in on it.
And I got some of like the

822
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,160
promotional cards, you know,
like the MEW that everybody got

823
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,760
for the movie.
And I, I remember distinctly one

824
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,680
that was my favorite.
I ended up selling it off.

825
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,480
It was a Zapdos, Moltres,
Articuno all in one.

826
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,360
It was a promotional card from
something, I don't remember

827
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,760
what.
I ended up getting my hands on

828
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,120
it.
And then I ended up selling it

829
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,560
off probably a couple years
later.

830
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,640
But yeah, I just eventually got
to the point where like I have

831
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,680
some, like I have some, you
know, in hard cases that are,

832
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,440
that are graded.
But like I don't, I'm not like,

833
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,280
oh God, I gotta get the newest
set and, you know, go crazy with

834
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,280
scalpers and all that stuff.
So I still think it's cool.

835
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Like I've got the pocket TCG on
my phone and I open the cards up

836
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,000
that way and stuff just for that
whole like gambling serotonin,

837
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,840
right?
Let's RIP a pack and see what

838
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,360
happens.
Yeah, that game was my like

839
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,080
nicotine patch when Marvel Snap
went down and I fell out of love

840
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,960
with that game for a minute
because it actually plays better

841
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,320
than you'd expect.
I like the way that they

842
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,560
simplified the mechanics down to
like a 3 minute match.

843
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,640
I'm all.
I'm a big fan of quick CCG card

844
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,080
games.
And then of course, I did play

845
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,000
the Game Boy Color game because
I loved it.

846
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,000
I, I was heavy into that.
And then once again, I'm the

847
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,640
same boat as you, released a
sequel, you cowards, because I

848
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000
want to play it.
I so badly want to play it.

849
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,440
Derek, any any experience with
the cards?

850
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,400
Yeah, I mean, I collected them
when I was a kid because I was

851
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,040
obsessed with all things
Pokémon, but I never, I really

852
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,440
got into the card game.
You know, it was just, you know,

853
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,400
it was, it was like, it was, if
I like the cards at all, it was

854
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
just like, I want to have my
favorites.

855
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Like I was a kid, I was like, I
want to have all the evolutions.

856
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,280
You know, it's nice to have that
set.

857
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,920
You know, I bought them, You
know, I bought a couple packs

858
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,760
like a while back because I was
like, OK, you know, here's a set

859
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,040
that has some, you know, Pokémon
that I might like actually just

860
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,200
like to have these cards as like
actual collectible items.

861
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,360
But I never really got into
that.

862
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,440
I'm not really a card game guy,
at least not Pokémon cards, so

863
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,000
it's not really my thing.
And I hate scalpers.

864
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,680
I despise them.
I think that they're people who

865
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,840
cannot afford to be landlords,
so they try to RIP people off in

866
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,920
other ways.
Yep.

867
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,120
There's Derek's hot take on
scalpers.

868
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,520
We don't like him.
Nope.

869
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Nope.
You guys could go kick a rock.

870
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,800
Scalpers.
If there's any scalpers

871
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,440
listening to this, fuck you.
I love those videos of the

872
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,560
people like, oh, just two grown
men sitting in the toy aisle at

873
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,040
Target, you know, and.
Yeah, or you say you see it all

874
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,320
the time, the videos of like
them lifting up the bottom shelf

875
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,880
and sticking them under there to
hide for later because they

876
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,120
started setting limits and
stuff.

877
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,800
And I'm like seriously, go get
an actual job.

878
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,440
Like I can understand opening
packs and like I'm a collector,

879
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,800
but then like I don't
necessarily want this so I can

880
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,960
sell it off or whatever.
But like don't don't sit there

881
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,520
and buy it out from under kids
hands and then Jack the price

882
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,640
like.
Exactly.

883
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,520
And like, because I work my day
job, I work in like a bookstore

884
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,120
and we do carry collectible
cards.

885
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,360
And so, you know, so we get very
rarely Pokémon card all day

886
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,440
every day we get calls.
Do you guys have any Pokémon

887
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,120
cards with one piece all day
every day?

888
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,840
And then just we just get,
whenever we get them in, we just

889
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,240
get swarmed by people.
We have to limit them.

890
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,760
And then the thing that really
bugs me is I'm like, you know,

891
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
like we'll have like 2 thin like
OK, do you want the Kyogre one

892
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,040
or the Sui kun?
I want that one.

893
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,160
It's like, so you're buying
these, you don't even know what

894
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,880
the Pokémon are.
Save this for a kid.

895
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,240
Save this for a collector like
they.

896
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,640
Should have to beat you in a get
in a match, yes.

897
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Exactly like I'm going to give
you a Pokémon quiz like it's

898
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Pokémon Stadium 1.
Exactly.

899
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,480
I've seen stores do that where
they've like straight up where

900
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,400
like, and you can answer these
five questions, I'll sell you

901
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,240
more than two and then.
Gatekeeping for the win What

902
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:19,120
harm has gatekeeping ever done
to the nerd?

903
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,360
No, no, no, no.
That's the difference between

904
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,320
gatekeeping and like, because
these two people are not

905
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,920
actually trying to get into
Pokémon.

906
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000
I know, Derek.
That would be one thing, yeah.

907
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,400
The flip flips out on the value
on cards thing.

908
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,360
I have a friend that plays Magic
Gathering a lot and I always get

909
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,160
these messages of like, yeah, so
I just got this card that's

910
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680
worth this amount.
And I finally want like, is this

911
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,800
card worth that amount in a way
that will ever actually matter,

912
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,400
or are you still keeping this
card?

913
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,280
And it's like, yeah, OK, yeah.
Don't ruin this format.

914
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,600
All right?
Let's do a quick run through

915
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,600
guys of the new games, beginning
with Pokémon Champions.

916
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,800
According to nintendo.com,
Pokémon Battles for Everyone

917
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,760
battle with Pokémon, including
the Mega Evolved Pokémon like

918
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Mega Dragonite, against other
players in the Pokémon Champions

919
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,160
game, the same game that'll be
used for the Pokémon World

920
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Championships in 2026.
These single and double battles

921
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,000
used familiar mechanics from
previous Pokémon series games,

922
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,520
such as Pokémon types,
abilities, and moves, enabling

923
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,960
the rich and very battle
strategy you may already know

924
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200
and love.
Compete and ranked battles

925
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,560
against players from all over
the world, or try casual battles

926
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,640
for easygoing fun.
You can have private battles

927
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,680
with just you and your family.
Recruit Pokémon to join your

928
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,160
team and train them to hone your
skills.

929
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Before you venture into the
world of Pokémon battles, try

930
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,760
finding Pokémon to fight
alongside you.

931
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Once per day you can recruit
Pokémon on a trial basis to use

932
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,240
them in battle to see if they're
a good fit for your style.

933
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,880
Once you've found a match, use
your in game victory points or

934
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,280
VP to bring Pokémon onto your
team, which makes you very

935
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,800
nervous that it's going to
become a pay to win thing.

936
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,280
This is not sounding great.
You can also use your VP to

937
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,880
train the permanent members of
your Pokémon squad, hone their

938
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,400
attack, defense, and other
stats, and even alter their

939
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,240
abilities and move to try out
different strategies to win in

940
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,600
battle.
It is compatible with Pokémon

941
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,040
Home, including Pokémon brought
over from past series and Mike

942
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,240
even Pokémon Go.
So I think it is.

943
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,240
Yeah, go go connects to home cuz
like right.

944
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Yeah, but you can't always get
things from one game into

945
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,600
another.
Yeah, you know.

946
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,320
So this is going to be an all in
one Pokémon battle app that also

947
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,640
has a mobile version.
So you can play it on your

948
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Switch, you can play it on
mobile.

949
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,280
And this is the new way that
Pokémon battles are gonna be

950
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,360
decided.
Mike, you've always played

951
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,240
Pokémon Go, but you just catch,
you don't.

952
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,400
Or do you do the battles and the
raids and things like that?

953
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,600
I do.
I do do them less here because

954
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,520
in Nashville, like raid days,
there was a there was a place to

955
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,040
go.
Everybody in Nashville went

956
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,440
there.
It was awesome.

957
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,640
OK, LA does not have that.
It doesn't.

958
00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:00,400
So I haven't done those as much.
I still do raids and some amount

959
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,240
of taking of gyms but I'm lazy.
Just take it.

960
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:14,400
I think it's also like I things
change hands in in city areas

961
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,920
too often, but like I if I'm in
more remote areas I make it a

962
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,600
point to try to take gyms that
seem remote to see how long I

963
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,800
can last.
Nice.

964
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,720
I did have one that was
something like 6 months in

965
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,000
Australia in the middle of
nowhere.

966
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,240
And actually Behringer Crater in
Arizona is a really annoying gym

967
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:43,040
to reach cuz there's like worst
cell signal in the crater.

968
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,960
But I did put a clefairy in the
crater because that felt

969
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,680
appropriate.
Did he glitch out right when he

970
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,360
said that for anybody else?
No.

971
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,920
OK, that was just me.
So does this call to you at all

972
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,720
Pokémon champions now that you
can take your Pokémon Go and

973
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,280
compete with like legit Pokémon
battlers?

974
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,880
Any idea of playing this?
Not really.

975
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,160
I mean, in the same sense that
really it's I I'm a collector

976
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,920
more than a battler, which is
also my entire history with most

977
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,000
card games.
And life in general.

978
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:19,040
Yeah.
Derek Butch, excited, scared.

979
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,840
What's your impressions of this
all in one poke battle app?

980
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,320
You want the first Derek or OK,
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

981
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,880
I mean, I this seems
interesting.

982
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,760
You know, it seems like it's
definitely tailor made for the

983
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,240
competitive scene because making
a Pokémon and you, you know,

984
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,440
getting the right EVs and Ivs
and everything like that is such

985
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,360
a pain.
And it seems like this is a way

986
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,840
for that to kind of streamline
that process without having to

987
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,240
do the annoying, ridiculous
grind.

988
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,400
It seems like that's a big part
of it.

989
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,560
It also seems like it's just the
kind of new version of Pokémon

990
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Stadium where you can just go
and make teams in battle where

991
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,440
you don't have to have like a
team that is, you know, you go

992
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,400
through a whole like a whole
Pokémon game and have them in

993
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,800
the game.
Whatever you can just put, you

994
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,600
know, whatever team you have
into this game, optimize them

995
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,840
for battle.
So you know, I'm, I'm definitely

996
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,560
when it comes to I'm, I'm not a
competitive player, like I don't

997
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,200
get in too much into those
strats and everything, but I'm a

998
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:20,000
lot closer to that than I am a
card game player or like a even

999
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,520
a Pokémon Go player.
Where I do have teams that I

1000
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,200
think are pretty solid.
If I went up against somebody

1001
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,400
who, and I would love to like
play around with this and like

1002
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,680
try to make like really good
teams and like viable teams.

1003
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,560
And I would, I'm, it's that
weird level on that where it's

1004
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,760
like I'm really good if compared
to like the normal person.

1005
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,440
But once I go up against like,
you know, it, it's like I'm like

1006
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,880
a player in the minor leagues.
And then if I go up like against

1007
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,600
like the major, like, I'll just
get annihilated, you know, if I

1008
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,400
go up against an actual
competitive Pokémon player, but

1009
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,840
I could beat my friends.
Right, yeah, I'm kind of in the

1010
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,880
same boat, except I probably
would lose against my friends.

1011
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,440
But Butch, something tells me
you're a bit of a min man.

1012
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,040
Though I used to be back in the
day, back to see now it's easier

1013
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,320
in the newer games because you
can, you know, especially I

1014
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,880
think it started in in Gen. 6
where you could do like the EV

1015
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,080
training, right.
So if you had something that

1016
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,080
wasn't great, you could, you
could EV train it.

1017
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,920
And that, you know, used to be
back, you had to just hatch

1018
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,520
dozens and dozens and dozens of
eggs and hope you got the the

1019
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,200
right one with the right, you
know, especially since they

1020
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,160
introduced abilities, you know,
so you had to get the right

1021
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,240
ability and had the right E VS
and, and actually, believe it or

1022
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:30,680
not, I can't remember when they
changed it, but like having a

1023
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,280
male or female, one could depend
on it too, because one, I can't

1024
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,760
remember which one it was, but
one or the other hit harder or

1025
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,360
had better stats.
And you couldn't even see Ivs

1026
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,840
and EVs in those earlier games.
No, you couldn't.

1027
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,680
You just had to basically like
test it out and, you know,

1028
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,320
figure out which one was hitting
better.

1029
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,520
You'd take the same 2 Pokémon
and face off against the same 2

1030
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,600
and like OK, this one hit better
doing this.

1031
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:59,640
So this one has it like it was a
whole convoluted thing, but, you

1032
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,680
know, I just kind of got out of
it.

1033
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Like, like with Derek, I'm not
very competitive.

1034
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,000
Like I'll play against people,
but I'm not.

1035
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,200
Yeah, it's kind of the same
thing.

1036
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,160
Like if I go from the minor
league to the majors, I'll

1037
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,800
probably get whooped handily my
you know, and I don't I I know

1038
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,400
you said earlier we'd we'd
probably get strike for this,

1039
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,680
but like the most I ever do is
like when I do my runs on my

1040
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,800
stream and do if I die, I die
type of thing, right.

1041
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,920
So like that's the most I do
like competitive wise, like I

1042
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,280
don't I'm not hardcore into it.
Like does this set a potential

1043
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,200
precedence where you have to pay
money to do certain things?

1044
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Maybe Depends on how greedy
Nintendo wants to get.

1045
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,160
I do like the fact that for
competitive players, like this

1046
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,240
is now the go to.
They don't have to go from, oh,

1047
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:51,440
we were in X&Y and had megas and
then we went to Sun and Moon and

1048
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,720
then you have to get used to Z
moves and megas.

1049
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,800
So you have to have that game
and then, you know, Giganta

1050
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,320
maxing and then, you know, now
it's one app What you don't have

1051
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,440
to buy the next big game.
It's all just going to be right

1052
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,720
there.
And so like when people then do

1053
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:09,400
go to the competitions, it's
right there.

1054
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,120
They don't have to have the
newest game or whatever if they

1055
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,800
don't necessarily want to.
I know they will because they

1056
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,040
are but.
Well, I also think it's like

1057
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,840
it's smart because I think there
is like I prefer the battles

1058
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,880
versus the exploration.
Like I would really love to

1059
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,200
build a Pokémon team and not
have to Dick around and team

1060
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,360
rockets secret hideout with the
conveyor belts.

1061
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,480
You know what I mean?
Like Pokémon as a series really

1062
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,240
loves to kind of waste your
time.

1063
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,320
And so I am intrigued in a more
bare bones levelling up.

1064
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,120
I mean, I don't want to say
microtransactions, but like if

1065
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,960
the free to play model is run
well and you can make good

1066
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,840
progress, this could be a really
fun way for people to get

1067
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,080
Pokémon they've never had access
to without, you know, doing the

1068
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,120
Daisy change that you guys have
been talking about.

1069
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,840
And you know, I haven't been
playing the series for the last

1070
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,080
30 years because I'm freaking
12.

1071
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,520
Let me play the Pokémon I like,
you know what I mean?

1072
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560
We have to remember about that
audience as well.

1073
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,680
So I am overall more excited
than anything.

1074
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,840
I think it's just interesting
that they're finally trying to

1075
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,480
modernize like what a Pokémon
battle competitive scene would

1076
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,800
look like.
Yeah, and I do, and I'll build

1077
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,080
on Butch's point that I like a
lot that I'm like that they're

1078
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,200
bringing all the generational
gimmicks in where it's like, OK,

1079
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,800
we're have megas, how is Omega
going against the Giganta Max

1080
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,800
Pokémon versus the terrastalized
Pokémon?

1081
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,160
You know, instead of just being
like, well, OK, what's the

1082
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,400
gimmick that we have to learn
for this generation that's going

1083
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,360
to, you know, and how is that
going to affect the meta?

1084
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,520
It's like it's all in there, you
know, like we, if you got really

1085
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,160
good at Megas like 8 years ago
or whatever, then you can, you

1086
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,840
know, we'll bring the strategies
back for that and see how they

1087
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,840
hold up against somebody's
strategy who has like a really

1088
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,600
good gigantic Snorlax or
something.

1089
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,880
I appreciate that like because I
don't I did not follow all the

1090
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,400
generational updates.
When you said generational

1091
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600
gimmicks, the first thing my
thought my brain went to was the

1092
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,400
pet rock.
And I'm like, actually no way

1093
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,760
that is in Pokémon.
Geo dude, that that that joke is

1094
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,760
too accurate.
So then the last new game here,

1095
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,560
Pokémon Wind and Waves.
According to pokemon.com, these

1096
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,240
new titles feature an open world
to explore exclusive to the

1097
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,600
Switch to with beautiful
windswept islands and vast

1098
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,440
oceans with glittering waves.
The Pokémon that live in harmony

1099
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,800
with this region's lush
environment have developed their

1100
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,640
own unique ecosystems.
During this adventure, you team

1101
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,040
up with all kinds of Pokémon to
overcome both the difficult

1102
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,640
world ahead and even the forces
of nature that block your path.

1103
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,960
Your main character sports a
different output depending on

1104
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,840
the version that you play.
Will you choose Grass type by

1105
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,360
partnering with Brout, the
lively but clumsy bean chick

1106
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,440
Pokémon?
Or perhaps you'll heat things up

1107
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,240
with a Fire type by picking Pom
Pom Bon, the guileless and

1108
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:51,120
friendly puppy Pokémon.
If Water types are more your

1109
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,520
speed than the intelligent Water
Gecko, Pokémon, Geckwa might be

1110
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,080
the partner for you.
The trailer also showed off a

1111
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,560
pair of special Pikachu with a
brand new look.

1112
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,960
We'll have to wait a bit longer
to learn how Mr. Windy Chew and

1113
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,760
Miss WAVY Chew will be involved
in the adventure.

1114
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,120
Additionally, it will be
announced that Pokémon Winds and

1115
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,840
Waves supports Brazilian
Portuguese as a supported

1116
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,320
language.
Now, even more fans around the

1117
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,360
world can play this new
adventure in the native tongue.

1118
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,920
I love that that was the thing
they ended their press release

1119
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,440
on is like Brazilian Portuguese
people, we freaking see you.

1120
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,240
I think this is really exciting.
No shade to people who don't

1121
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,560
want to switch to, but I'm
really excited to see a game

1122
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,880
developed for the the
exclusively the more powerful

1123
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,680
software.
I feel like having to include

1124
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,440
previous gens has really held
them back graphically and I'm

1125
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,200
excited because did you guys, so
you guys watch the trailer,

1126
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:47,800
right?
Yes.

1127
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Oh yeah.
Did you catch, did you catch

1128
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,760
what they were doing when it cut
to black and there was like 10

1129
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,840
seconds of just audio?
No.

1130
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,880
OK, so you heard it.
I was watching it on my phone so

1131
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,200
I didn't really get.
It's really interesting.

1132
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,240
So the trailer stops, but
there's just 10 seconds of

1133
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,120
darkness and you're listening to
the waves, but you can clearly

1134
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,560
hear a storm brewing.
And so I feel like a big

1135
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,960
component of this game is gonna
be dynamic weather and they're

1136
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,760
gonna build like in game events
around.

1137
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:19,400
It Gen. 3's back, baby no.
But but imagine how cool it

1138
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,680
would be if like, oh, the island
has flooded now, areas that I

1139
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,800
was exploring has water now, and
now there's water Pokémon

1140
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,200
everywhere.
Or like droughts, you know what

1141
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,200
I mean?
Like, I feel like they could do

1142
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,840
a really cool thing if the
environment changes the map.

1143
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,200
That could be really huge.
The rumor is that's what's gonna

1144
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,640
happen.
I won't go too far into it to

1145
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,280
people that don't wanna spoil
anything.

1146
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,320
But but you heard it here first.
Yeah, the, the rumor is the, the

1147
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,480
rumor is that it's going to have
to do with that.

1148
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,920
It's going to have to deal with
the elementals and how they

1149
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,280
interact, essentially interact
with the Pokémon.

1150
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,960
That's dope.
So it wasn't until watching the

1151
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,880
trailer that I discovered that
cause since Pokémon Go is my

1152
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,200
reference and there they just
show up on a map, I did not

1153
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,160
realize that Frillish was
aquatic until I was like, it was

1154
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,560
like, yeah I guess that makes
sense.

1155
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,960
I love that, like you guys,
every one of you have said stuff

1156
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,600
that like I have the Ash Ketchum
hat and I'm just nodding like I

1157
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,640
understand.
Half of which I also didn't know

1158
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,640
Frillish was a water type.
Yeah, idiots.

1159
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,120
But so you guys have not all
gotten switch twos, right?

1160
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,000
I have not yet.
I will probably for this.

1161
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,640
I was gonna say, is this gonna
make you pull the trigger?

1162
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,520
Yeah.
Like I don't see how I don't get

1163
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,080
it right, because that's the
thing I don't have a switch to.

1164
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,880
I'm always like, well, I'm
waiting for them to make a

1165
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,760
Zelda, but I'm like, I might
have to just do it because as

1166
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,680
much as like ZA and like, you
know, like all the other games

1167
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,840
that have come out and like
we've talked about, but I'm

1168
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,800
like, OK, these would be cool.
They're those are like spin off

1169
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,640
side games.
I know ZA is technically main

1170
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,080
series, but it's it's not one of
the versions, you know, the core

1171
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,760
versions.
And I'm like, I have never not

1172
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,320
played a core version of
Pokémon.

1173
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,520
I, I so I have to get a switch
too and I've got a year, you

1174
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,320
know, so.
But yeah, I I have to keep this

1175
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,200
tradition going and this this
game, these games do and very

1176
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,920
little we know so far, but they
do look incredible.

1177
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,640
I will say there it is utilizing
that Switch hardware.

1178
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,560
And I think that it apparently
it's based the region is based

1179
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,480
on Indonesia, which is cool.
And you can like go underneath

1180
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,920
the water to traverse between
the two of them that you know,

1181
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,400
where Mike saw is frillish.
That looks so cool.

1182
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,960
The I think that the biggest
opportunity is actually in the

1183
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,560
game chat feature of switch to,
because that's the one where

1184
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,560
like if we're in a party and
we're talking via voice chat

1185
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,560
through switch to there's also
little screens across the bottom

1186
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,560
that share screen.
So if they, if they actually

1187
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,480
integrate online well and all
four of us can run around the

1188
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,040
island looking for a Pokémon and
butchers like, Oh my God, I

1189
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,000
found it.
And we can see on his screen

1190
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,160
where he is and we run to go
join him.

1191
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,360
And now it's a raid battle and
we catch the mega frillish.

1192
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,840
Like, that's going to be like,
really fun.

1193
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,240
And that's gonna be a use of
game chat that would justify it

1194
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,440
being, you know, sort of unique
and sort of like a thing

1195
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,880
exclusive to switch to.
So, OK, so in the Discord.

1196
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,200
And by the way, guys, join the
Discord,

1197
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,640
www.theoldswitcheroo.com.
Everyone's got jokes, but I like

1198
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,840
the starting set.
I know they're not the most

1199
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,720
original, but they're super cute
and they're gonna sell plush

1200
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,600
toys of all of these.
And I don't know.

1201
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,440
I am a fan of Brout, Pombon and
Gekwa.

1202
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,160
What do you guys think of the
starters?

1203
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,040
I think.
It's the first set of starters

1204
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,600
that there isn't one that I
think is cool.

1205
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,600
OK.
Just none of them appeal, appeal

1206
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,840
to me.
It's the only one where it was

1207
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,520
like, OK, this feels like I'm
settling.

1208
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,840
Your brow, Mike, come.
On it, it feels they feel too

1209
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,680
close to just, hey, what if you
can catch emoji?

1210
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,840
You don't use emojis when you
text, do.

1211
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,400
You no I make it a point to add
a space back in so that it

1212
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,520
doesn't auto correct into like
an emoji if I bring like a colon

1213
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,600
in a parentheses.
You know most of the world

1214
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,360
freaking love emojis.
Right, I don't agree with a lot

1215
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,920
of things the world does.
There you go.

1216
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,040
There you go.
All right.

1217
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,240
Mike's down.
Mike's down on them.

1218
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,520
Mike's not on board, Derek
starters.

1219
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,600
I'm gonna be honest, when I saw
the initial like thing for it

1220
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,480
and it said like Pokémon wind
and waves, there's the three

1221
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,320
Pokémon, I was like, oh, that's
fake, That's not real.

1222
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,480
That's that's.
Fan made bullshit.

1223
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,120
I really thought that.
And then I like quickly googled

1224
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,040
it.
I was like, Oh no, these are

1225
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,760
real, you know, it's their,
their first stages.

1226
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,080
Who knows what's gonna happen.
I also really didn't like any of

1227
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,640
the starters for Gen. 9.
You know, I, I thought those

1228
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,480
were pretty weak.
You know, we'll see what they

1229
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,360
evolve into.
Maybe my tune will change.

1230
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,040
But as far as just like first
stages, like it's like fluffy

1231
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,760
Fire dog Gecko and then Teamu
Rowlett.

1232
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,440
OK, OK, OK.
Butch, you need, I need you on

1233
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,080
my side.
So.

1234
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,120
There's so I will say I do like
them.

1235
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,640
Yeah, actually.
But I do find it interesting

1236
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,840
because there's a lot of people
that are like, you know, Brout

1237
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,400
is the the angry bird chicken,
right?

1238
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,040
Or, or Pombon is what's the dog
from Undertail?

1239
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,160
I never played it, but a lot of
people are comparing it to that,

1240
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,160
right.
And then the Gekkwa is like, oh,

1241
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,200
that's Littlest Pet Shop, you
know, right.

1242
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,920
So there's a lot of people there
throwing that out.

1243
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,480
My thing is, if you turn any
single one of these into a

1244
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,480
bipedal humanoid in their final
evolution, I will riot.

1245
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,120
Stop doing that.
Okay, but it's not.

1246
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,760
Something of if this if this
thing grows ABS so help me.

1247
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,840
Well, I mean, I'm just saying
like if you look at the last

1248
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,720
couple of generations, that's
what they've done.

1249
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,160
They've it seems like, and I
don't want to say the classic,

1250
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,280
oh, they've run out of ideas,
but like the last two in Gen.

1251
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,360
like 2 of them in Gen. 9, they
just turned into a humanoid, the

1252
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,000
bipedal humanoid.
That's what they did.

1253
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,120
That's why I like Flay Coco and
why you know I chose him.

1254
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Stop doing it.
You've ruined Litton for me.

1255
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,880
Litton.
I love Litton, but then get get

1256
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Incineroar out of here.
You've.

1257
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,760
Ruined it.
For me, OK, I'm going to stop.

1258
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,400
Doing that I'm.
Going to be a creep.

1259
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,240
This is mostly for Derek Gek was
big Batty eyes.

1260
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,800
I was like, is that going to be
kind of a smoke show as like a

1261
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,440
third stage?
Is it going to be like, I feel

1262
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,640
like, I feel like we're going to
be like.

1263
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,760
My.
I'm not saying as it is now,

1264
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,040
just to be clear.
So you're out here looking for

1265
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,440
another low pony?
Is that what?

1266
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,040
You.
Oh God, please.

1267
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,680
No, look, you said, you said the
name.

1268
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,280
I said nothing.
Well, yeah.

1269
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,720
You implied it.
What's your favorite Ralts?

1270
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,400
Yeah, everyone loves that stage
of the.

1271
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,280
Evolution there dard d'ivoire,
right?

1272
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,840
No.
It's a good Pokémon OK, just not

1273
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,040
my fault the Internet ruins
everything right?

1274
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,000
See.
See.

1275
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,440
Are you not touching on?
I guess it wasn't a fresh

1276
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,520
announcement, but that the game
that's releasing this week.

1277
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,720
What are you referring to?
Pocopia or whatever.

1278
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,840
Pocopia, we were eventually
going to like that's.

1279
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,640
I thought we were going to add
that on the end or whatever.

1280
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,080
Well, I hadn't included because
it wasn't like a kind of a newer

1281
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,640
development, but yeah, poke,
poke of the Animal Crossing

1282
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,000
esque island simulator.
It looks kind of cute like.

1283
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,400
But Mike, you never played
Animal Crossing Pocopia, any

1284
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,080
interest?
The more I've seen about it, the

1285
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,760
initial stuff I saw about it
looked really interesting, and

1286
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,960
the stuff they showed in the
most recent thing, that looks a

1287
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,480
lot more like what I've heard
about Animal Crossing, but with

1288
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,440
Pokémon, And I'm like, yeah,
maybe this isn't for me.

1289
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,320
OK, like the early you like
chibi?

1290
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,880
Robo yeah.
And I think it's the more it

1291
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,520
kind of it, the earlier stuff
made it feel like there was

1292
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,640
going to be somewhat more of a
goal element to it.

1293
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,400
And this had a lot more like,
oh, decorate things how you'd

1294
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,280
like and maintain it.
And there's all these other

1295
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,480
things that are vague.
And like, this feels like a lot

1296
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,360
more work than like, oh, and
then we've reached, you know, I

1297
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,320
got all the Pokémon and we're
done kind of thing.

1298
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,040
But getting them in a different
in, you know, a fun way.

1299
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,160
OK, yeah.
I feel like it's gonna be fun.

1300
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,320
I think I might pick it up.
I really like the idea of, like

1301
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,600
an Animal Crossing, but there's
like a checklist and you're

1302
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,720
trying to get, you're trying to
meet every Pokémon, you know,

1303
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,040
And I'm sure there's gonna be
some wacky requirements of, oh,

1304
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,880
to get Articuno, you have to
open an ice cream shop and, you

1305
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,200
know, you have to, you have to
have three Pokémon dancing here.

1306
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,280
And you know, there's gonna be
all kinds of weird, convoluted

1307
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,320
ways to get it.
Because but can you transfer

1308
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,440
them to home?
That's my question.

1309
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,800
Can you transfer them to home?
Oh, and the part where it was

1310
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,520
like.
Oh, and you're going to need to

1311
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,120
eat food.
And I'm like, oh, see, now this

1312
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,680
feels like a task I don't want
to deal with.

1313
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,480
Like I don't that's a pain in
regular life.

1314
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,240
Like all right, need to eat
meals.

1315
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,800
So like the idea of the game
introducing that was like.

1316
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Wait, you don't you dislike
eating meals, Mike?

1317
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,560
I don't like it having to be
like a task to it.

1318
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,200
It's one thing to be like, Oh
yeah, this would be nice, but

1319
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,840
it's like, it's another thing to
be like maintenance.

1320
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,760
I just want to see Mike's like
Yelp reviews, like everything is

1321
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,280
1 star.
Like they fed me those bastards.

1322
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,120
Those bastards.
This restaurant was awful.

1323
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,520
I could see that because like
Animal Crossing, you don't

1324
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,480
necessarily have to eat.
You can, but like you don't

1325
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,920
necessarily have to and you can
still do with whatever it is you

1326
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,000
want to do.
So I could understand that it's.

1327
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,080
Like when I got annoyed with,
like when Minecraft added hunger

1328
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,360
as a as a thing.
I mean, I, I played a lot of

1329
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,480
harvest moon back in the day and
I, I liked the way they did

1330
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,720
hunger than that where it was
just like your stomach would

1331
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,240
growl and you didn't like die or
anything if you didn't eat.

1332
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,760
But if you like, the more you,
the longer you went without

1333
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,000
eating, like the, the more you
would growl and would just stop

1334
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,160
you.
So it was really annoying to

1335
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,640
deal with.
Yeah, it's, it's a thing where

1336
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,560
it's like I'm looking.
It's like, OK, I'm I'm a lot

1337
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,320
less certain about this, so I'm
still keeping an eye on it.

1338
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,200
I think Jackie might be into it.
Jackie's big into Animal

1339
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Crossing and Pokémon, and I'm
like, well, if there's any game

1340
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,520
that you know, and she doesn't
really play much, but if

1341
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:09,840
something calls to her, she'll
pick it up.

1342
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,920
So I might, might grab this and
just download it on her light

1343
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,680
switch and just surprise her.
And if he doesn't like it, I'll

1344
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,920
play it.
Feels like it's moving away from

1345
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,240
what had been a interesting
creepy thing to it.

1346
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,080
Oh, the playing is the Ditto.
Yeah, yeah.

1347
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,840
That's so interesting.
And it barely showed like the

1348
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,200
the implications of that did not
show up at all in the the most

1349
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,240
recent trailer.
Like like they they show they

1350
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,279
indicate that you are a Ditto
because they do the hide and

1351
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,720
seek thing where you can pretend
to be objects and stuff.

1352
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,680
But like it doesn't have the
like you are pretending to be a

1353
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:47,680
probably dead person.
Majora's Mask, Butch Derek

1354
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,439
Pocopia, Nintendo.
Check it out or Nintendo Passes.

1355
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,000
I'll probably check it out.
I probably won't go like deep

1356
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,439
into it because like like with
Animal Crossing or anything like

1357
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,760
that, like I played into it, but
I wasn't like the type of person

1358
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,680
that had to make my island, you
know, extravagant and all this

1359
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,319
other stuff.
And you know, it depends on

1360
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:10,640
mechanics.
If it's more like Stardew

1361
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,880
Valley, I'll probably play it a
little bit more.

1362
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,200
But you know, looking at it,
it's it's something I'll

1363
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,760
probably dive into a little bit
and be like, OK, this is fun for

1364
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,160
what it is and it's it's neat.
And like I saw they, they did

1365
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,960
have like you could get certain
variations of Pokémon never seen

1366
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,439
anywhere else because they're
like, I think they showed us

1367
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,920
Snorlax that was like a kind of
a greenish color or something.

1368
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,840
I can't remember off the top of
my head, but so that's one of

1369
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,439
those things where that'll be
kind of cool to see.

1370
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,240
But will I go as hard as I do in
like the mainline games?

1371
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,760
Most likely not.
Does it make a great demo if

1372
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,920
there's like a time limited
demo, like you get to play it

1373
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,279
for like an hour, you know what
I mean?

1374
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:49,640
And then, but Derek, what's your
gut say?

1375
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,600
Yeah, we kind of just went from
like the thing I'm most

1376
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,120
interested into the thing I'm
just like, whatever, it seems

1377
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,720
cool.
Like I'm not really an Animal

1378
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,080
Crossing guy.
Like I, you know, I like to

1379
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,160
start the valley like Harvest
Moon, but that's about as far as

1380
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,120
I get into those kind of SIM
games.

1381
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,920
And I could see some it being
like something might be my

1382
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,840
girlfriend downloads cuz I think
she likes that aspect of

1383
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,640
Pokémon.
She's one of those players who's

1384
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,920
like, I don't want to evolve
him.

1385
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,520
He's cute.
So like I could see her being

1386
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,280
very into this game and maybe we
playing it on her Switch the

1387
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,840
same as like you with Jackie.
None more righteous and and also

1388
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,360
I will ask to add, if they put
some kind of multiplayer ability

1389
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:29,080
to visit other poke islands and
get and miss, you know, get and

1390
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,960
visit and meet Pokémon you
haven't seen and you expand your

1391
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,480
collection that way, that could
be really cool.

1392
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,080
They they, they specifically
talked about that you can go

1393
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,120
visit people in it.
Yeah, see Nintendo, you've been

1394
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,080
listening.
Yeah, honestly, if they've made

1395
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,880
it compatible with home, I might
be more inclined to get because

1396
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,840
that that collector brain, you
know, it would it just would

1397
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,640
lock in and be like what?
There's this Snorlax you can

1398
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,200
only get in this because that's
part of the reason I bought back

1399
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,520
in the day I bought like Pokémon
Ranger is because you could only

1400
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,080
get the mana fee egg like by
beating that game in the

1401
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,080
translator.
You shell.

1402
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,640
But it was a good game too.
Yeah, it was, It was.

1403
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,920
It was worth it.
Yeah, but it's got a new hat.

1404
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,720
So then let's wrap it up here
with the rest of the Pokémon

1405
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,320
Anniversary News, Pokémon World
Championships, and Pokémon XP.

1406
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,280
It says 2 incredible events one
unforgettable weekend August

1407
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,320
28th through the 30th at the
Moscone Moscone Center in

1408
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,200
downtown San Francisco.
Experience this history making

1409
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,680
Pokémon experience Alongside the
annual Pokémon World

1410
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,080
Championships, the Pokémon
company will be hosting it's

1411
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,280
very first official Pokémon
convention complete with panels,

1412
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,080
merch and rumor has it there
might even be a Pokémon center

1413
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,960
themed pop up store.
You know, Derek, Mike, we live

1414
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,480
close enough.
You guys think about going.

1415
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,480
Wait, rumor has it they were
very clear.

1416
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,880
Like I thought they were weirdly
overselling the we'll have a

1417
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,160
store.
No, but there's a rumor that

1418
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,480
it's gonna look, it's gonna be
like a full size Pokémon Center.

1419
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,560
They've done this for similar
Pokémon events, but since this

1420
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,440
is the biggest scale so far,
people are thinking it's going

1421
01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:04,120
to be like a really impressive
theme store.

1422
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,640
I mean it, it does probably have
the advantage.

1423
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,720
There should be some good
Pokémon Go stuff going around

1424
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,280
outside.
That's true because.

1425
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:16,120
There's a lot of things I've
gotten from where it's either

1426
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,160
Nashville or various parts of LA
where they where it's, they've

1427
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,960
got a Pokémon event going on and
so they just start tossing out

1428
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,000
unknowns or something into the
wild.

1429
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,640
I mean, I know in years past
they've done like the

1430
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,960
championships at the Anaheim
Convention Center, which, you

1431
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,640
know, shout out, that's where
we're doing our wonder con

1432
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,600
panel.
So with something there, I would

1433
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,480
absolutely go or even like LA or
something.

1434
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,120
You say it's close.
That's still like an 8 hour

1435
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,960
drive to San Francisco.
Like I don't know.

1436
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,480
I don't know.
So it's it's it's a hard, hard

1437
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:48,920
maybe for me.
Yeah.

1438
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,160
And I and this year, like I was
even too lazy to go to Pokémon

1439
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,000
Go Fest.
And that was that was in

1440
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000
Pasadena.
So like it was nearby, but

1441
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,000
granted it's a lot of walking.
Yeah, I was going to say that's

1442
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,920
not just laziness, that's also
you being.

1443
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,480
Protective, Yeah, yeah.
So there's a, there's a little,

1444
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:12,840
a little bit of that, but
there's mild temptation in that

1445
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,160
regard.
I was like, yeah, if I got, if I

1446
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,480
could justify going up there for
a different reason and I just

1447
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:21,360
happen to be in the vicinity,
I'd be more after that than the

1448
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,880
actual event itself, personally.
I love it.

1449
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,160
If there's one thing on brand
for this show, it's mild

1450
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,400
temptation.
So then let's leave off with the

1451
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,840
biggest piece of news, the Game
Boy Jukebox.

1452
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,360
According to the official
Pokémon YouTube channel, this is

1453
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,880
a Game Boy shaped Playback
Machine that allows you to enjoy

1454
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,200
songs from Pokémon Red and Blue.
Enjoy 45 familiar songs from

1455
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,840
Pokémon Red Version and Blue
Version while swapping the

1456
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,480
cartridges in and out of the
Playback Machine.

1457
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,120
This product is about 1/3 the
size of the actual Game Boy, and

1458
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,600
not only the color of the
buttons, but also the grooves of

1459
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,960
the main body and the speaker
sound are faithfully reproduced.

1460
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,600
This is weird and I've never
seen a product that made me so

1461
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,440
uncomfortable about its
environmental impact.

1462
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:10,240
The idea of selling 45 different
little cartridges and swapping

1463
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,200
them out to hear different
Pokémon, like I feel like this

1464
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,160
will be really fun for
cosplayers who are like, I'm

1465
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,200
going to be I'm going to be a
ghost Pokémon.

1466
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,760
I want to walk around with the
lavender town theme coming from

1467
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,520
my belt at all times.
And it's a fun little kitschy

1468
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,080
thing.
But this is the most Nintendo

1469
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,280
that Nintendo was ever Nintendo.
This is this is wild.

1470
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,440
This is.
I think they're, I was going to

1471
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:36,120
say, I think their clock was a
weirder move.

1472
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,920
OK, OK.
But I still went through this

1473
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,280
twice.
We're switching things.

1474
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,560
Why?
Right, Yeah.

1475
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,080
You couldn't put all the songs
on one cartridge and press the

1476
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,880
button on the Game Boy to change
songs.

1477
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,320
Like what are we doing here?
You you're telling me, Jamo, you

1478
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,800
didn't have a hit clips back in
the day?

1479
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,960
I did not.
I did not.

1480
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,680
Yeah, I I was going to say this
is some real early 2000s shit.

1481
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,680
It's also like the most Nintendo
shit ever were the like, we're

1482
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,720
just going to make weird shit
for like no, that no one ever

1483
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,320
asked for.
Yeah, but it's like, OK.

1484
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,840
Like it's like like we don't all
walk around with phones that can

1485
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,640
play the exact, all of those
exact tracks at all times

1486
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,240
anytime.
But it's just like, yeah, it's

1487
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,880
just this weird little novelty
to have that like I said, it

1488
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,040
feels like something that would
be like a hit clubs or something

1489
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,880
would be come out in 2003 before
we all had smartphones and it

1490
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,520
just like this cool little
kitchy thing.

1491
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,240
It's like why does this exist?
Cuz I don't know cuz it's fun

1492
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,640
you know like am I gonna get it?
Probably not, but like I.

1493
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,280
Don't Yeah, I I would 100% say
this is like nostalgia Bate, you

1494
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,840
know, because like they talk
about like the game, like the

1495
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,240
grooves are back.
Like I could like that's one of

1496
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,800
the things I still have with my
cartridges is my great brick

1497
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,560
Game Boy.
And I can remember the grooves

1498
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,360
that were on the back from
holding it and, you know, and.

1499
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:56,880
And as far as the music goes,
like, yeah, I suppose you want

1500
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,680
to get that kind of like broken
chip tune out of that one

1501
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,600
speaker that it had.
That's probably the way to do

1502
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,280
it.
But like, yeah, cuz I remember

1503
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,760
on playing like Heart Gold or
Soul Silver, once you beat it,

1504
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,800
one of the things was you got
the Game Boy sounds.

1505
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,640
So that way you can hear the old
sounds that way in game.

1506
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,760
But even then you're playing it
on the DS so it's better

1507
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,840
quality.
So I get, I kind of get what

1508
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,320
they're trying to do.
But at the same time, like you

1509
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,880
said, like if you buy all those
cartridges and you're swapping

1510
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,800
them in and out and eventually
you get to the point where you

1511
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,520
don't want it anymore and it
ends up there's all this plastic

1512
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,000
somewhere.
Well, it's it's definitely I

1513
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,800
feel like a lot.
I'll just say this to someone

1514
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,760
who's undiagnosed, but maybe on
this rectum, it's definitely a

1515
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,120
it's definitely like being like
a lot of you guys who play

1516
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,240
Pokémon are probably on a
particular spectrum.

1517
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:43,560
You would like you like your
classic nostalgic stuff.

1518
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,360
You like specific very or the
grooves?

1519
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:51,800
At that point then why scale it
down?

1520
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,200
Because if for anyone that's
like, Oh yeah, this is the feel

1521
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,280
I remember.
Very few people in their target

1522
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:04,560
audience have shrunk
significantly since they had

1523
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,320
that.
I'm going to even venture a

1524
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,440
guess most people have gone the
other direction.

1525
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,520
So like in my mind, make make
it, I mean, obviously the

1526
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:20,600
easiest, just like what if you
just made it a Game Boy and

1527
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,960
you're set?
But even if you're just like,

1528
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,160
we're going to make it the size
as the Game Boy and it will let

1529
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,680
you play music and it's also an
external battery for everybody

1530
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,440
who's also playing Pokémon Go at
the same time or something like

1531
01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:32,800
that.
At least.

1532
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,320
It's like, OK, this has like a
use, but I'm like, I can't

1533
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,960
imagine how someone's going to
use this in the course of even,

1534
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,600
not even just a regular day, but
even an irregular day.

1535
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,960
Like rather than them pitching
it I would like them to just

1536
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,080
have like here's 2 minutes of
someone using this for real in a

1537
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,560
normal life.
I'm almost I'm almost a fan of

1538
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,120
how useless it is because if it
was like a little bit useless,

1539
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,240
I'd be like, well, that's dumb.
But the fact that is so

1540
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,360
pointless.
I'm like, yeah, go off like they

1541
01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:03,960
you, why would you have this
thing?

1542
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,840
Like, I mean, you could do this
stuff with so many, but because

1543
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,960
it's so ridiculously niche, I'm
kind of like, you know what?

1544
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,600
More power to you this.
Is the kind of thing that 100

1545
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,360
years, years from now an
archaeologist will find and just

1546
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,240
presume it's for ritualistic
purposes.

1547
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,640
Because I look back at the like
the the excess, it's like that

1548
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,080
scene in like, you know, the
post apocalyptic movie where

1549
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,520
it's like they were coming up
with the most pointless things

1550
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,480
every day.
We didn't appreciate what we

1551
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,000
had.
This is the exact example of

1552
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,560
that kind of excess and.
It doesn't.

1553
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,800
Even indicate like and we're
just going to keep growing this

1554
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,120
out.
So it's like it feels like

1555
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,800
you're getting it for just this
exactly 1 limited thing and it's

1556
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,040
just like this feels ridiculous.
Yeah, at the at the most, if you

1557
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,880
like, they could do Gen. 2
because that was still on the

1558
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,760
Gameboy, but after that it was
the Gameboy Advance in DS.

1559
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,880
So the sound systems are better
and right then there's no point

1560
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,560
to do it in the Gameboy quality
anymore.

1561
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,800
It's it's just wild because it's
like the most hipster way to

1562
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,280
listen to music possible.
It's like this individual

1563
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,480
Pokémon cartridges, you know?
It's well, it's like when I

1564
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,680
bought my Killers branded hot
sauces and I was like, I don't

1565
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,400
know, like it's Killers hot
sauces.

1566
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,000
It's something to have you.
Know there there is a point

1567
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,520
where it's so absurd and like
you're just happy that someone's

1568
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,560
like drunk uncle is apparently
really high up at Nintendo or

1569
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,240
the, you know, Pokémon Company.
Oh, Nintendo, never change.

1570
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,920
You are so freaking wacky and I
don't know how you're so

1571
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,800
successful.
I have some ideas on how they

1572
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,520
should change.
All right, guys, we're going to

1573
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,360
call that game over for today.
Butch, why don't you remind our

1574
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,000
listeners where they can go to
see you?

1575
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,200
Wait, I said that wrong.
Why don't you remind our

1576
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,600
listeners where they can go?
Go to see you, Power Ranger.

1577
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,120
Nice, yes I do have a Twitch SSG
3 Butch.

1578
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,760
I currently am on hiatus because
of I've got family stuff that's

1579
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,600
going on and I just can't make
my schedule work.

1580
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,600
But I do plan starting in the
fall again to start back up on a

1581
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,920
regular schedule.
I have a bunch of stuff planned,

1582
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,280
especially around Pokémon old
stuff, new stuff.

1583
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,680
So yes, please definitely check
it out, give it a follow.

1584
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,320
Even if I'm not here right now
or over the summer.

1585
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,280
I definitely, I have a full
thing scheduled and I have a

1586
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,280
bunch of stuff planned out and
we always have a good time.

1587
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,800
And so I, I really hope to see
you guys there.

1588
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,560
Awesome.
We'll see you around.

1589
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,440
Thank you for coming tonight.
And Derek, where can our

1590
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:18,600
listeners go to get another hit
of the Mcduff man?

1591
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,040
Yes, you can go listen to
Underrated Movie Podcast on all

1592
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,960
the podcast apps.
However you're listening to

1593
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,120
this, it's a lot of fun.
I talk about films that are

1594
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,880
underrated and underappreciated.
Both Mike and Jamo have been on,

1595
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,240
so I'd love you guys to go check
those episodes out.

1596
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,200
And if you're going to be at
Wondercon, definitely stop by

1597
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,360
say hi.
Me and Jamo are going to be

1598
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,960
there.
I'm gonna be there for the whole

1599
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,320
weekend and I can't say when it
is yet, but definitely go check

1600
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,320
out our panel if you like video
games and if you like movies,

1601
01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:48,920
we're gonna be talking about
both of them there.

1602
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,080
I mean, Wondercon is the last
weekend of March, right?

1603
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,560
Yes, yes.
So we wouldn't say that much.

1604
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,960
Yeah, just go to the whole.
Just go to the whole.

1605
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,040
Convention.
Yeah, just go to the.

1606
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,560
Just go, go to the convention
and we'll be there one of those

1607
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,160
days, one of those three days.
I am beyond excited guys.

1608
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,080
This all sounds NE excellent.
Everyone join us next time when

1609
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,720
Mike and I will be exchanging
fighting words as we discussed

1610
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,720
the newly released virtual boy
peripherals and the divisive

1611
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,360
first person puncher Telero
boxer.

1612
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,120
Until next time, Please remember
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1613
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,360
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1614
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,080
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1615
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,880
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1616
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,040
We'd love to hear what you
thought of this episode and what

1617
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,760
you're hoping to hear in future
episodes.

1618
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,600
As always, thanks for listening
to the Old Switcharoo where

1619
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,760
you've been talking gaming retro
kind of with Mike and Jamo.

1620
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,920
I've kind of been Mike.
And I've been all the way jamo

1621
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:56,440
game on everyone.
Wouldn't it be cool if Mike just

1622
01:21:56,440 --> 01:22:00,280
shows up in full Team Rocket?
Like he just, he just outdoes

1623
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,280
all of us.
You know what?

1624
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,840
I mean, that'd be so funny.
I have never known him to do be

1625
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,040
that kind of person, but he
would actually, what would he

1626
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,920
be, Derek?
He'd probably be like the poker

1627
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,400
ball or something.
That's not like I'm not.

1628
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,560
That's like, yeah.
He likes to create costumes that

1629
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,000
were like structures.
No, he would be like missing

1630
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,400
though, is what he would be
like.

1631
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,360
Oh yeah, I can see that.
You are so right.

1632
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,280
Mike would rock him missing
though.